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Sparty
01-28-2021, 11:48 AM
Greetings Friends,

Looking for a pure Fire Sorcererererer build that I can solo low reaper content.
Three PL's & +7 supreme tome
I own all content
I don't craft and I don't have any GS gear.
I don't do the whole swap and clickie business. PITA IMHO

I am terrible player and just stumble around and try to farm the best gear available that increases my stats and so I've never payed much attention to the minutia. I manage okay but this will be my first dedicated reaper toon from level 1 project.
I've joined raids and such but find I am always lacking when compared to other players. I did say I am a terrible player, but I want to be a better player and be able to contribute to the count and not be a stone in someones pack or constantly asking for a rez/heal.

I saw the 'Best way to level fire sorc' thread:
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/506304-The-Best-Way-To-Level-Fire-Sorcerer-Build
but its a couple years old now and DDO has had some updates.

I look forward to the build

Spart

cloudyspam
01-29-2021, 06:48 AM
Although it has been a couple of years, Strimtom's build is still just as relevant. I don't know what updates you are referring to that would greatly impact Sorcerer.

Race really doesn't matter though if you have Dragonborn/Tiefling obviously use them.

Personally, I do this for feats:

.1. . . . : Maximize Spell
.3. . . . : Mental Toughness
.6. . . . : Past Life: Wizard
.9. . . . : Force of Personality
12. . . . : Greater Spell Focus: Evocation
15. . . . : Spell Penetration
18. . . . : Quicken Spell
21 Epic . : Wellspring of Power
24 Epic . : Burst of Glacial Wrath
26 Destiny: Epic Fire Spell Power
27 Epic . : Epic Spell Focus: Evocation
28 Destiny: Elusive Target
29 Destiny: Deific Warding
30 Epic . : Embolden Spell
30 Legend : Scion of: Plane of Fire OR Plane of Air

Go fire sorcerer whilst leveling, change to electricity at 12 if you aren't Tiefling, change back to fire at 18.

Honestly, the rest of it is covered in Strim's guide, only change I would make would be to take Draconic Hunger + Flyby attack in Draconic Incarnation and lose 1 Cha.

If you properly farm out the gear, you shouldn't have any trouble hitting Heroic DCs, if not, you can take Heighten whilst leveling and swap it out in epics.

For the love of God, do not take Empower, Enlarge, Extend, or Eschew.

PrinceOfAsphodel
01-29-2021, 02:05 PM
.1. . . . : Maximize Spell
.3. . . . : Mental Toughness
.6. . . . : Past Life: Wizard
.9. . . . : Force of Personality
12. . . . : Greater Spell Focus: Evocation
15. . . . : Spell Penetration
18. . . . : Quicken Spell
21 Epic . : Wellspring of Power
24 Epic . : Burst of Glacial Wrath
26 Destiny: Epic Fire Spell Power
27 Epic . : Epic Spell Focus: Evocation
28 Destiny: Elusive Target
29 Destiny: Deific Warding
30 Epic . : Embolden Spell
30 Legend : Scion of: Plane of Fire OR Plane of Air


Hmm. Good stuff but you seem to be taking Greater Spell Focus without taking the regular one first. Do you take Regular Spell Focus at 12 or is it actually Greater and you forgot about the regular one earlier?

cloudyspam
01-30-2021, 06:29 AM
Hmm. Good stuff but you seem to be taking Greater Spell Focus without taking the regular one first. Do you take Regular Spell Focus at 12 or is it actually Greater and you forgot about the regular one earlier?

Thanks for pointing that out, I knew I was missing a feat somewhere. Yeah as you said just swap those round. I usually don't end up taking spell penetration as I personally don't feel the need for it and would rather the extra +1 to evo DCs.

slarden
01-31-2021, 02:27 AM
If you are looking to solo low skulls and want some upside to move up skulls the best choice is bladeforged which requires a +1 heart to remove the paladin level. If you don't want to do that I would go with warforged for the self-healing. I am speaking specifically to soloing here - I understand what you lose by going with bladeforged or warforged vs. tiefling/dragongborn. The bladeforged is better so if you don't plan to TR it's worth the points. Just make sure when you lesser with the +1 you pick sorc instead of iconic or you basically waste your heart.

While you can often clear enemies fast enough on a sorc where you don't need to worry about self-healing there are situations where your cocoon and scroll healing doesn't cut it and it's nice to just hit that reconstruct button. I wouldn't worry about the loss of DC or DPS (vs tiefling/dragonborn) - you can make up for that other ways and even so it's worth it for the self healing.

While you will have better dps with both tiefling and dragonborn for sure, you can lose alot of damage output by having to play super carefully on a squishy character when soloing. Cocoon has a 12 second timer and reconstruct has a 5 second timer and heals you for more.

I ran the same character through level 30 reapers on a bladeforged and tiefling sorc. The tiefling could clear dungeons a few minutes faster on R4 on average in quests where I could self heal effectively on R4 (ravenloft, gatekeepers, etc.). There were many dungeons that were problematic due to self healing even on R4. Although I could complete dungeons R6 on both characters the bladeforged could complete every level 30+ quest on at least R4 without dying except TOEE Part II which is mostly because I barely run it and never got good at it. The bladeforged could complete almost all quests on R6 (and I am sure I can go higher but I generally stick to R6 for soloing and group for higher skulls) consistently without dying the tiefling really struggled as I moved up skulls in feywild, sharn, slavers and a few other places. You have to rely on not getting hit more as a tiefling which is challenging in alot of content.

So I stuck with bladeforged for my solo sorc and am happy with it.

So with no greensteel and with the past lifes you listed I go with a 4-piece winter set and 2-piece summer set in addition to your burnscar sash. I would go with the esoteric set as well. I take adamantine plating and remove the spell failure with 15% augment, 15% from racial lifes and 10% from filigree.

Since you don't have greensteel for a swap weapon consider prince's heart which is a feytwisted item for orb - it checks alot of boxes for you if you don't have raid gear.

This data is from my warlock which might be slightly better than sorc, but here is my self-healing #s at each difficulty with reconstruct on a bladeforged (should be about the same on a warforged). The first # is non-crit, the second # is crit.

Epic Elite: 1223/6653
R1: 1223/2814
R2: 1130/2600
R3: 1004/2311
R4: 907/2086
R5: 777/1788
R6: 648/1490
R7: 518/1192
R8: 388/894
R9: 259/596
R10: 129/298

Selvera
02-02-2021, 09:08 PM
Pure fire sorc build that can solo low reaper leveling with a +7 tome?
Boravian Sceptre and Burnscar Sash.

That's pretty much what you need. Put points into fire savant. Bonus points if you're a tiefling or dragonborn.

Garorg
04-06-2021, 12:56 PM
If you are looking to solo low skulls and want some upside to move up skulls the best choice is bladeforged which requires a +1 heart to remove the paladin level. If you don't want to do that I would go with warforged for the self-healing. I am speaking specifically to soloing here - I understand what you lose by going with bladeforged or warforged vs. tiefling/dragongborn. The bladeforged is better so if you don't plan to TR it's worth the points. Just make sure when you lesser with the +1 you pick sorc instead of iconic or you basically waste your heart.

While you can often clear enemies fast enough on a sorc where you don't need to worry about self-healing there are situations where your cocoon and scroll healing doesn't cut it and it's nice to just hit that reconstruct button. I wouldn't worry about the loss of DC or DPS (vs tiefling/dragonborn) - you can make up for that other ways and even so it's worth it for the self healing.

While you will have better dps with both tiefling and dragonborn for sure, you can lose alot of damage output by having to play super carefully on a squishy character when soloing. Cocoon has a 12 second timer and reconstruct has a 5 second timer and heals you for more.



I have exactly the healing problem you are describing on my Tiefling fire sorcerer, especially after U48.4, so I am very strongly considering moving to a Bladeforged. Do you happen to have posted your Bladeforged sorc build anywhere on the forums? I did some searching but I'm only finding some discussions about gearing so far.

Thanks!

slarden
04-07-2021, 12:47 AM
I have exactly the healing problem you are describing on my Tiefling fire sorcerer, especially after U48.4, so I am very strongly considering moving to a Bladeforged. Do you happen to have posted your Bladeforged sorc build anywhere on the forums? I did some searching but I'm only finding some discussions about gearing so far.

Thanks!
I don't have it on the forums, but I have it in a google doc I will pm you.

If you don't have LGS you can also look at using EE Skyvault shield and taking shield feats for more PRR and MRR if you find you are taking too much damage. I would start out without the shield feats though and only add if you find you need a little more defense.

majorhavoc
11-24-2021, 06:46 PM
Greetings Friends,

Looking for a pure Fire Sorcererererer build that I can solo low reaper content.
Three PL's & +7 supreme tome
I own all content
I don't craft and I don't have any GS gear.
I don't do the whole swap and clickie business. PITA IMHO

I am terrible player and just stumble around and try to farm the best gear available that increases my stats and so I've never payed much attention to the minutia. I manage okay but this will be my first dedicated reaper toon from level 1 project.
I've joined raids and such but find I am always lacking when compared to other players. I did say I am a terrible player, but I want to be a better player and be able to contribute to the count and not be a stone in someones pack or constantly asking for a rez/heal.

I saw the 'Best way to level fire sorc' thread:
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/506304-The-Best-Way-To-Level-Fire-Sorcerer-Build
but its a couple years old now and DDO has had some updates.

I look forward to the build

Spart


Can easily solo R3 & R4 all day long.
I really like the new Draconic Incarnation T5 Intensify Ruin.


Stormmage
Sorcerer 20
True Neutral Dragonborn




Stats
. . . . . . . .36pt . . Tome . . Level Up
. . . . . . . .---- . . ----. . .--------
Strength. . . . 10. . . .+8. . . .4: CHA
Dexterity . . . .6. . . .+8. . . .8: CHA
Constitution. . 18. . . .+8. . . 12: CHA
Intelligence. . 12. . . .+8. . . 16: CHA
Wisdom. . . . . .8. . . .+8. . . 20: CHA
Charisma. . . . 20. . . .+8. . . 24: CHA
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: CHA


Skills
. . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
Spellcr . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Bluff . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1. 1. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 5. 17
Heal. . . 2. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
Balance . . . . . .½ .½ .½ .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ . . 11
Jump. . . 1. 1. 1. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
UMD . . . 1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
. . . . .12. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 6. 6. 6. 6. 6. 6




Feats


.1. . . . : Armor Proficiency: Light
.3. . . . : Completionist
.6. . . . : Maximize Spell
.9. . . . : Empower Spell
12. . . . : Quicken Spell
15. . . . : Heighten Spell
18. . . . : Past Life: Wizard
21 Epic . : Wellspring of Power
22 Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Fire
24 Epic . : Intensify Spell
25 Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Force
27 Epic . : Ruin
28 Destiny: Crush Weakness
30 Epic . : Greater Ruin
30 Legend : Scion of: Plane of Fire


.1 Dragon : Draconic Ancestry: Red




Spells




<Any>, <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
<Any>, <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
<Any>, <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
<Any>, <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
Mind Fog (10), <Any>, <Any>, <Any>
Greater Heroism (12), <Any>, <Any>
Delayed Blast Fireball (14), Finger of Death (15), Otto's Sphere of Dancing (17)
Sunburst (16), Incendiary Cloud (17), Arcane Tempest (19)
Meteor Swarm (18), Mass Hold Monster (19), Wail of the Banshee (20)




Enhancements (Spent: 80 +15r +1u / Max: 80 +15r +1u AP)


Fire Savant (41 AP)

Fire Savant, Fire Affinity, Greater Fire Affinity, Immolation, Elemental Persistance, Elemental Apotheosis

Burning Hands III, Spell Critical, Conflagration III
Spell Critical, Fanning the Flames III
Spell Penetration, Spell Critical, Stat: Charisma
Scorch III, Spell Critical, Stat: Charisma
Fireball III, Awaken Elemental Weakness, Evocation Focus, Elemental Diversification: Power of Force



Feydark Illusionist (31 AP)

Find Familiar: Illusory Sprite, Ability Score I: Charisma, Greater Color Spray, Ability Score II: Charisma, Familiar's Reach

Feydark Explorer III, Study the Arcane III
You've Got My Back
Spell Penetration III, Magical Attunment I, Refraction, Stat: Charisma
Fan of Shadowblades III, Magical Attunment II, Stat: Charisma



Dragonborn (24 AP)

Hardy I, Dragonborn Ability I: Charisma, Hardy II, Dragonborn Ability II: Charisma

(none)
Dragon Breath: Red (Fire), Arcanum III
Dragon Heritage: Red (Fire) II, Power in Breath III, Draconic Knowledge: Red (Fire)
True Power III





Destinies (Spent: 64 (52 +12pdp) / Max: 52 (40 +12pdp) AP) Errors


Draconic Incarnation (36 AP)

Draconic Bloodline: Red, Draconic Heritage, Elemental Blood

Attune the Arcane, Arcane Studies III
Draconic Presence I, Dragon Breath III, Coalescence III
Inevitable, Daunting-Roar, Draconic Spell Focus: Evocation III
Pull from the Wellspring: Wellspring of Power's duration is doubled. When you activate it, you gain +10 temporary Spell Points per character level that last for the full, doubled duration., Dragonspeed III, Improve Dragon Breath: Energy Burst III
Hellstorm, Ruin Intensified, Enhanced Draconic Spell Focus II



Exalted Angel (14 AP)

Astral Touch, Deepening Faith, Angelic Charge

Subtle Flame III, Born By Flame I, Angelic Form, Avenging Magic: Healing Pillar
Angelic Body
Noble Affinity: Mass Cure Moderate Wounds, Holy Presence



Shadowdancer (14 AP)

Shadow Training, Step Through Shadow, The Darkest Luck

Cover of Darkness III, Well of Darkness III
Lithe III
Shadowcaster: Shadowcaster