Labrythine Edge or Soulrazor?

[Cranjis]

I know I have been asking tons of swashy questions lately, I promise this is the last one...I think. After some rereading on my previous swashy threads, I have come down to two weapons that would be ideal at endgame: Labyrinth Edge (https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:The_Labrythine_Edge), or Soulrazor (https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Soulrazor). Labyrinth would be excellent with the crit profile, especially with Swashbuckling (https://ddowiki.com/page/Swashbuckler_enhancements) active. Soulrazor would likely be more dps, but you cannot swashbuckle with it on. I will be using a guardbreaking buckler. I can upgrade the Labrythine Edge to get Fetters, for the vulnerability. But in the end I cannot decide which one of these two weapons is better. I am also using CHA to dmg, so dex is out of the question.

[DerpDerply]

Assuming that you’re not taking knights training, Edge would probably be a much better fit for a swashbuckler.

[droid327]

Soulrazor would likely be more dps, but you cannot swashbuckle with it on.

Well therein lies the problem - if you can do more DPS on a Swash build by NOT Swashing, then why even Swash?

Seems like if your goal is to Swash, then you gotta go with the Swash weapon. If your goal, rather, is to do a SWF S&B build with a Buckler and do the most DPS you can, then maybe you want to do a Vanguard Pal instead.

Incidentally: Both are Keen so IC is moot. Labrythine on a Swash will end up 15-20/x3 with Swash bonus, its only +0/+1 (assuming you're not mixing in T5 Ravager or anything). Soulrazor with Holy Sword and KT will end up 16-20/x4, so the crit profile is actually better on the non-swash setup...

[Cranjis]

Well therein lies the problem - if you can do more DPS on a Swash build by NOT Swashing, then why even Swash?

Seems like if your goal is to Swash, then you gotta go with the Swash weapon. If your goal, rather, is to do a SWF S&B build with a Buckler and do the most DPS you can, then maybe you want to do a Vanguard Pal instead.

Incidentally: Both are Keen so IC is moot. Labrythine on a Swash will end up 15-20/x3 with Swash bonus, its only +0/+1 (assuming you're not mixing in T5 Ravager or anything). Soulrazor with Holy Sword and KT will end up 16-20/x4, so the crit profile is actually better on the non-swash setup...

Good point. Labrythine it is. I was just deciding between crit or dps, especially with guardbreaking.

[droid327]

Good point. Labrythine it is. I was just deciding between crit or dps, especially with guardbreaking.

Swash is a crit build. Probably the most crit-focused build, in fact. So you always choose crit.

And then hope you have a friend for undead/construct/plant/elemental/ooze-heavy quests :)

[Cranjis]

And then hope you have a friend for undead/construct/plant/elemental/ooze-heavy quests :)

Oh, I'll have the help of warchanter freezing for those.

[Fivetigers33]

Good point. Labrythine it is. I was just deciding between crit or dps, especially with guardbreaking.

I've done Soulrazor bard before and it only does more DPS than standard swashbuckling weapons when you have full stacks of Consumed Souls, which is pretty much non-existent in raids and requires you to dominate the kill count/zerg in regular questing. With vuln though, Labrythine Edge will still do more DPS than Soulrazor if nobody else in the party has vuln.

Now if most of your game play is in a party where someone else always has vuln, and you always get a decent chunk of the kills, Soulrazor might actually be better for that situation. But you need to be killing something every 19 seconds to keep the buff going.