View Full Version : When are you going to fix the chat issues on Thelanis?
Jinxx
09-30-2020, 05:48 PM
It's going on two months now and still no fix. This is making it extremely difficult to group/raid when you can't communicate with your party. :mad:
Zorrbeania
10-02-2020, 04:39 AM
I hope it's soon! Though it seems to be a 50-50 chance for me.
My new computer (that I got off of Ebay) used to have bad hitching problems when I first downloaded the app, but after I deleted it, and downloaded it again, it's working purfectly. :) (I just got off and it didn't mess up once)! Just wanted to put that out there since it seemed to help me!
PsychoBlonde
10-02-2020, 10:40 PM
It's been a few weeks for me where the guild chat NEVER works on ANY account I log on (I have 3).
apocaladle
10-02-2020, 11:42 PM
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Alavatar
10-04-2020, 06:20 PM
Super frustrated. Did a PUG today and it was madness. At least the RAID we did was super rote it eventually concluded successfully, but boy howdy was it a mess without communication.
HungarianRhapsody
10-04-2020, 06:31 PM
Does the chat server problem kill voice chat too? Or is it just the text chat that died?
DYWYPI
10-05-2020, 04:29 AM
HungarianRhapsody, yes, the Voice channels are also impacted; you won't be able to hear anyone in your Party communicating either - neither will you see any Party channel text. All that will function is the /tell with regards to the party communication until the Chat Channels finally bother to establish a Connection.
Zorrbeania
10-07-2020, 01:04 AM
Was on today, when I did talk to people there didn't seem to be a problem (lucky for me), but I did notice it saying a couple of times: "You failed to join the party chat room" though this was no biggie, it was only me and my Hireling in the quest. :)
TitusOvid
10-07-2020, 04:54 AM
Can we get some communication here (Ironic, I know)? It seems Thelanis is heavily impacted but other servers have issues, too.
For people on Orien, you are free to use the voice channels in Orien Discord (https://discord.gg/PKDxEtg). If you need a text channel, as well I am sure we can arrange that.
For other players, do the same. Don't wait for SSG to fix this in the near future. I am sure the main DDO Discord can help out, too. And if it gets to crowded just open one of your own. But it is really not that hard. If you need help, I am willing to.
Cheers,
Titus.
Cordovan
10-07-2020, 09:58 AM
I am happy to report that we have (finally) made progress on identifying the cause of this issue, and will be working on a fix. Hopefully that will resolve the issue, and we'll get it into the next available patch.
HungarianRhapsody
10-07-2020, 10:38 AM
I am happy to report that we have (finally) made progress on identifying the cause of this issue, and will be working on a fix. Hopefully that will resolve the issue, and we'll get it into the next available patch.
Does that mean U47?
Or the next patch that comes after 47?
Grandern_Marn
10-07-2020, 10:58 AM
Please, oh please. Each time I go to visit my buddy on Thelanis it's so jenky that we can't use chat at all.
DYWYPI
10-07-2020, 11:43 AM
Yes, it would actually be nice to have the Hirelings to chat to; I dearly miss their usual Party responses: 'Clown!', 'Fool!', 'Idiot!', 'Moron!', 'Dimbo!', 'Thickhead!', 'Numbskull!', 'Oaf!', 'Middenbrain!', 'Fustilugs!', 'Lackwit!'. Currently its taking them around 15-mins before they decide to register as joining the: Party channel. Because joining Raids and PUGs, isn't that productive at the moment when the Chat channels aren't connected. :-/
TitusOvid
10-07-2020, 12:15 PM
Thank you for some news.
Cheers,
Titus.
I am happy to report that we have (finally) made progress on identifying the cause of this issue, and will be working on a fix. Hopefully that will resolve the issue, and we'll get it into the next available patch.
Some compensation after 2 months without chat would be nice.
cdbd3rd
10-07-2020, 12:36 PM
Yes, it would actually be nice to have the Hirelings to chat to; I dearly miss their usual Party responses: 'Clown!', 'Fool!', 'Idiot!', 'Moron!', 'Dimbo!', 'Thickhead!', 'Numbskull!', 'Oaf!', 'Middenbrain!', 'Fustilugs!', 'Lackwit!'. .....
That's what the Dragon is for. (Or maybe that's just mine...) :o
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Some compensation after 2 months without chat would be nice.
Respectfully disagree.
Captain_Wizbang
10-07-2020, 12:38 PM
Some compensation after 2 months without chat would be nice.
I knew this was coming.
Personally I just want it fixed. Asking for compensation is about as low as one could go on here.
SSG are good people, I'm sure they will address the issue. But openly asking upfront to me is petty.
LT218
10-07-2020, 01:17 PM
I knew this was coming.
Personally I just want it fixed. Asking for compensation is about as low as one could go on here.
SSG are good people, I'm sure they will address the issue. But openly asking upfront to me is petty.
Knew this was coming. Not expecting a product you pay for to work as advertised is nonsensical.
I'm sure SSG would address issues faster if there was some sort of measurable cost associated with them breaking things constantly. Asking for compensation when something you paid for doesn't work properly accepted standard procedure and generally recognized as good customer service and PR.
/snark off - disparaging someone else's opinion by calling it low and petty simply because it differs from yours is... well, low and petty.
Captain_Wizbang
10-07-2020, 01:48 PM
/snark off - disparaging someone else's opinion by calling it low and petty simply because it differs from yours is... well, low and petty.
Maybe, but when its done as a 1st or second post in reply, then I call that low.
As for you showing up out of the blue to rebut me? What else is new?
Seph1roth5
10-07-2020, 02:14 PM
How about as compensation, merge all thelanis chats into one MEGA CHAT. All parties, guilds, userchats, say, general, loot, you get it all!
Roonfizzle
10-07-2020, 02:20 PM
Nor a Barbarian in the this battle... I do not play on Thelanis. I was new when Wayfinder was rolled back, I DID take advantage of those buffs to try something else that was new, and enjoyed the welcome that community gave. My "main" at the time was 10ish, it is now 26, and I have more than a few server unlocks, and am very unlikely to head to Thelanis for any reason. I'm aware of this due to occasionally hitting the "New Post" button over the last two months.
Asking for compensation after a day or two? I might consider that a bit tacky, depending on the circumstances and/or severity of the issue. After TWO MONTHS? I hope that those that call Thelanis home, are given a bit of joy to make up for something that would make anything other than generic solo or overpowered zerging painful. ANYTHING that requires coordination? Something as simple as hitting 3 levers at the same time... strikes me as nigh on impossible.
Does Thelanis deserve the exact same buffs that Wayfinder got not that long ago? Maybe, maybe not. Something tailored to make up for the inability to work together? Yes.
But openly asking upfront to me is petty.
Yes, how petty asking for a 50% pot or something after 2 months of no chat in a game I pay for. /s
You know that it's 100% free for them to just hand out an exp pot or some ****. It's been 2months and we've had maybe 3 dev replies when the server is nigh unplayable in pugs.
PsychoBlonde
10-07-2020, 06:11 PM
Hey, guys, something you might want to try, I decided to flush my dns and do an ipconfig /release and ipconfig /renew and after a short time loading in when I started the game (~ 2 minutes) my guild chat started working again on BOTH of my machines--after weeks and weeks of not coming up at all, ever. My party chat was working also. I then exited the game and restarted the game and it took about 3-4 minutes and the connection to the chat server was reestablished and I could see the chat on both accounts again.
I've been exiting the game and going back in several times and it's been 100% consistent thus far that it takes around 4 minutes for the chat server to establish a connection on both my accounts.
LT218
10-07-2020, 10:23 PM
Maybe, but when its done as a 1st or second post in reply, then I call that low.
As for you showing up out of the blue to rebut me? What else is new?
You can call it whatever you wish, but the point is, if SSG had any semblance of customer empathy, nobody would need to ask for it in the first place.
Stuff like this falls squarely into the "Shouldn't have to ask for it in the first place, but due to SSG's lack of caring, we do."
lunaticcat
10-07-2020, 10:23 PM
I am happy to report that we have (finally) made progress on identifying the cause of this issue, and will be working on a fix. Hopefully that will resolve the issue, and we'll get it into the next available patch.
Two things
first - this was posted on DDO Thelanis Facebook group and it appears to work / be a work around - for privacy issues I'm not going to post the individuals name but they do have my thanks
I did this with the DDO client loaded and an alt logged in - first confirmed that there was no functional communications. After running these steps, chat's were restored in about 3-4 minutes including voice, party, private and guild chats.
1. Open up a command prompt (you can search Windows for cmd and it should pop right up)
2. ipconfig /flushdns
3. ipconfig /release
4. ipconfig /renew
second - what is SSG going to do to compensate players who've been paying for a broken service for 3 months? Chat's may seem to be a low priority - however to many the ability to communicate is what makes DDO better - not having that integral part of the game working is something that must be addressed.
Captain_Wizbang
10-08-2020, 07:09 AM
You can call it whatever you wish, but the point is, if SSG had any semblance of customer empathy, nobody would need to ask for it in the first place.
Stuff like this falls squarely into the "Shouldn't have to ask for it in the first place, but due to SSG's lack of caring, we do."
Thelanis is my " home" server, I play almost everyday. I personally have been affected as much as anyone. But when players feel that they are "entitled" and pine away basically demanding compensation, well that's just a low blow.
You can try and justify your stance all day long. It won't change my view on calling out SSG less than 5 minutes of them posting related information.
I pay for my sub, I spend $ in the store, and we've lost some good friends on Thelanis over this as they left the game. And for that outcome there is no compensation offered by anyone. That being said, I really don't care if we get compensated. A few shinies won't bring those players back.
So, if anyone has a "right" to be upset, it's me. But I won't pull a low class call out demanding compensation.
Now its time to use my fav forum feature, "unsubscribe".
Thelanis is my " home" server, I play almost everyday. I personally have been affected as much as anyone. But when players feel that they are "entitled" and pine away basically demanding compensation, well that's just a low blow.
You can try and justify your stance all day long. It won't change my view on calling out SSG less than 5 minutes of them posting related information.
I pay for my sub, I spend $ in the store, and we've lost some good friends on Thelanis over this as they left the game. And for that outcome there is no compensation offered by anyone. That being said, I really don't care if we get compensated. A few shinies won't bring those players back.
So, if anyone has a "right" to be upset, it's me. But I won't pull a low class call out demanding compensation.
Now its time to use my fav forum feature, "unsubscribe".
Ah yes. Can't be like those poor peasants begging for scraps. Can't go as low as asking for services paid for to be functional. So "low class", they're all criminals and scum those poor people. I don't care about a few shinies, I don't even bother picking up a $10 bill off the street. /s
Get a grip, and stop licking ssg's you know what. Or perhaps you just wanna show how much richer you are than anyone "low class". The snobbery is, frankly, insane. And I've never seen such classism online before.
Zorrbeania
10-09-2020, 03:33 PM
I am happy to report that we have (finally) made progress on identifying the cause of this issue, and will be working on a fix. Hopefully that will resolve the issue, and we'll get it into the next available patch.
Yay! Good job guys! :) I was playing Night Revels yesterday, and when I teamed up with two separate people, the party chat worked both times. :)
LT218
10-10-2020, 06:48 PM
Thelanis is my " home" server, I play almost everyday. I personally have been affected as much as anyone. But when players feel that they are "entitled" and pine away basically demanding compensation, well that's just a low blow.
You can try and justify your stance all day long. It won't change my view on calling out SSG less than 5 minutes of them posting related information.
I pay for my sub, I spend $ in the store, and we've lost some good friends on Thelanis over this as they left the game. And for that outcome there is no compensation offered by anyone. That being said, I really don't care if we get compensated. A few shinies won't bring those players back.
So, if anyone has a "right" to be upset, it's me. But I won't pull a low class call out demanding compensation.
Now its time to use my fav forum feature, "unsubscribe".
Cool story. You're definitely entitled to your opinion, just as others are entitled to their opinion that customers should be compensated when a product they pay for doesn't work as advertised for months at a time. Ditto regarding your opinion of it being 'low' just as other people are entitled to their opinion that your outlook on it makes no sense.
PsychoBlonde
10-11-2020, 06:10 AM
Cool story. You're definitely entitled to your opinion, just as others are entitled to their opinion that customers should be compensated when a product they pay for doesn't work as advertised for months at a time. Ditto regarding your opinion of it being 'low' just as other people are entitled to their opinion that your outlook on it makes no sense.
I'm of the opinion that you need to compensate me IMMEDIATELY for exposing me to your horrible entitled attitude.
Cash only.
You might want to save up, everyone else who's ever been exposed to you is going to start demanding the same shortly, since you've stated it's your opinion that they're entitled to it, because YOU certainly aren't working as advertised.
LT218
10-11-2020, 10:18 AM
I'm of the opinion that you need to compensate me IMMEDIATELY for exposing me to your horrible entitled attitude.
Cash only.
You might want to save up, everyone else who's ever been exposed to you is going to start demanding the same shortly, since you've stated it's your opinion that they're entitled to it, because YOU certainly aren't working as advertised.
You are most definitely entitled to it.
You have paid me $0.00 to-date for services rendered, so please accept my humble apologies and this $0.00 refund for your inconvenience and as a gesture of my goodwill.
If you would like to join the LT218 VIP Warm and Fuzzy Posting program, I offer 1-month, 3-month, 6-month and 12-month subscription plans for $14.99, $29.97, $59.94, and $99.99.
For a limited time only, I'm offering a a $299 two-year season pass to the first 1000 customers. This will include a daily "make LT218 stop posting for 2 hours" voucher.
As an added bonus, for no additional charge, I will show some actual empathy for my customers and publicly acknowledge responsibility for any intermittent shortcomings of the advertised subscription.
C-Dog
10-11-2020, 01:54 PM
second - what is SSG going to do to compensate players who've been paying for a broken service for 3 months? Chat's may seem to be a low priority - however to many the ability to communicate is what makes DDO better - not having that integral part of the game working is something that must be addressed.
Compensation... several steps involved...
First, determine the approximate % of the game that you use chat. It's far from 100%, since you don't use it all the time - not while running around, not while fighting, not while messing w/ your bank or tweaking the alt, not while crafting, , etc etc. And a lot of the time you do use it is not technically "game related" - that's subjective, but also a factor.
Then, for those times that you would use it, determine the approximate % that "no chat" diminishes the game. Again, this is demonstrably far from 100%, since it doesn't "prevent" the main part of the game, only augments it, and many, many others are questing without it, and even communicating w/ work-arounds.
Now, multiply the 1st % x the 2nd % x the money you've paid, and take that amount, and shove it up a random orifice, because you agreed to when you agreed to the Terms of Service, which says (in part)...
6. Sales Policy
... You hereby agree not to assert and/or bring any cause of action (or) any claim for the loss of any "value" ... arising out of and/or related to any acts or omissions of Daybreak...
Daybreak does not ensure continuous or error-free access or availability of any Daybreak Game(s)... and may... modify, disable, suspend and/or remove ... any portion thereof, including... computer code... methods of operation, documentation, in-game chat transcripts... and client and server side software...
7.1. While playing, streaming, or otherwise using the Daybreak Games, you agree not to:
...Interfere with, degrade, harm or disrupt the operation of any Daybreak Game(s)...
o https://www.daybreakgames.com/terms-of-service
Stuff happens - learn to live with and accept that annoying fact of life, because you're not going to change it by stamping your little foot and holding your breath until you turn blue. If anyone deserves "compensation", it's the forum moderators listening to this incessant, whiny, self-entitled drivel, because by claiming such you have just broken the User Agreement.
You don't like it, go find something better - it's really just that simple. Me, I'm sticking around.
/out
Seph1roth5
10-11-2020, 02:35 PM
So did ssg fix something on their end or is it something all the players have to do on their end in command prompt?
DYWYPI
10-12-2020, 04:03 AM
The problem regarding the Chat Channels not connecting on Thelanis is still persistent and its intermittent when those 'Chat' channels and the 'Friends Lists' decide to function.
From reading Cocomajobo's vague and confusing statements; I get the impression they attempted to fix the issue. Or at least they believed they had made some progress?
It's a bit hard to tell since they couldn't be bothered to give a clear statement (or response to honest queries) other than try "re-log", which of course is not the solution. Should you like to try and decipher Cocomajobo's last post on the subject feel free to read: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/518599. I have the feeling they believe that they 'completely fixed' the "issue", but I'm not a mind reader.
Lizzy-Lane
10-15-2020, 02:24 AM
For me, the only thing that would make DDO the perfect game was if the brought back Crystal Cove (as others I know would also agree). I'm not a full-on gamer, so I'm not really effected by some of the in-game bugs.
TitusOvid
10-19-2020, 10:51 AM
News? Because I still get locked out of chat every time I log. When will this patch be? Tired of this.
Titus (Orien)
PsychoBlonde
10-19-2020, 02:22 PM
They already patched it. Did you try doing a DNS flush? It's been working perfectly for me for over a week now.
DYWYPI
10-19-2020, 02:54 PM
The problem regarding the Chat Channels not connecting on Thelanis is still persistent and it's intermittent when those 'Chat' channels and the 'Friends Lists' decide to function. I course I've done things flush the DNS prior, etc.
Even today I had it occur on the Hardcore server. However that resolved faster than the usual 5-minutes or more it usually takes when it fails to load. Although the reason it may have reconnected within 30-seconds might have been because there were only about 3 people on the server.
Sunday, on Thelanis it was particularly bad for me. Earlier on today it seemed mostly reliable at loading Chat first time around 08:00 UTC. By 19:00 UTC it was up its usual tricks of not loading the majority of times. The problem is there doesn't seem to be a lot of logic as to when it'll succeed or fail to connect correctly. Hot swapping Characters can cause it to fail to connect to the chat server normally and not other times, etc. There are at least two things going on causing these issues one of them is how they've (mis)configured the Thelanis Chat channels, etc. All that is constant; is that I can just about guarantee it'll fail to load on a daily basis. :-)
Cordovan
10-19-2020, 02:58 PM
I'm trying to get a better sense of how many people are still experiencing chat and friends list issues on Thelanis and the other game worlds. Please PM this info to me rather than post it here:
Character name:
Server:
Are all of your characters affected equally?:
Are you unable to see chat?
Are you unable to post chat?
Are you able to see your friends list?
TitusOvid
11-21-2020, 05:34 AM
This has improved for me. I rarely have problems anymore.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Titus.
C-Dog
11-21-2020, 01:00 PM
I'm trying to get a better sense... Please PM this info to me rather than post it here:
Nothing to report, but will do!
o7
Hawkwier
11-21-2020, 06:32 PM
Noticed a few chat issues on Thelanis yesterday and today.
Been fine for a while before that.
Usual pattern is I have no sound on log in. I relog to fix that, and then find chat is down. The issues yesterday and today only lasted a few minutes, so not as prolonged as before.
Just concerning it may be creeping back though. It was awful before.
blarhblarhblarh
02-18-2021, 05:45 AM
It´s been like this since august. We have been complainning but they don´t seen to care and some player even defends SSG saying that we can play with discord.
Chat issues.
Load Screen of Death
Server Lag and connections lines with 20%-30% loss. Sometimes I must reconnect 3-5 times to have one without loss.
So then I see thelanis empty we all understand the reason. People play to have fun, not to be stressed with those problems.
Bolo_Grubb
05-20-2021, 09:54 PM
I'm trying to get a better sense of how many people are still experiencing chat and friends list issues on Thelanis and the other game worlds. Please PM this info to me rather than post it here:
Character name:
Server:
Are all of your characters affected equally?:
Are you unable to see chat?
Are you unable to post chat?
Are you able to see your friends list?
any update? it has been months and we still have the chat bug issues
krynnotaur
03-28-2022, 02:26 AM
But now it's back. Chat never connecting, chat that connects and disconnects constantly.
thomascoolone64
03-28-2022, 09:03 PM
It's going on two months now and still no fix. This is making it extremely difficult to group/raid when you can't communicate with your party. :mad:
ever heard of discord?
Halciet
04-22-2022, 01:17 AM
never had any issues with messaging using /me [message] but then everyone would have to watch general or make a new chat tab.
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