When is/was the ten year anniversary of the tent?

[iamsamoth0]

Has it already been ten years since the market tent got destroyed?

[xTethx]

The tent was destroyed back in spring/early summer 2008 i believe.

[gnarledmaw]

The tent was destroyed back in spring/early summer 2008 i believe.

Could be. It has to be a good while back because I got here in 2009 and it was gone by then.

[lyrecono]

Has it already been ten years since the market tent got destroyed?

Now that you mention it, are there any videos or pictures left from inside the tent? Before it got blown up?

Same goes for the old 3BC cave interior prior to the redesign?

Edit:

Nm, here is the tent:
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/458654-Marketplace-scrap-book-pics

[Aelonwy]

There's never been an annual commemoration of it but there are lots of things in the game that interconnect to the story line of the event, at least as I understand it.

I do wish the story was a little more coherent. Of course, Devil Assault and the Chronoscope Raid are the bulk of the story but that raid wasn't introduced until sometime after I began playing (Fall 2009) a long time after the Tent event itself. Things that tie-in to the story include the seal to the Subterrane in the Market Place, the tent topper on a tiny island in 3BC wilderness, the Gann Urn optional in Party Crashers, the Gann mention from one of the Magic Mouths in Bargain of Blood, and Nat Gann's Pack used as a collectible interact-able on the island in Shipwrecked Spy. IIRC, I think some NPC other than Nat's father also speaks a line of dialogue about him. I've never run VoD but I think it also has to do with the Devil invasion story line, but I don't believe there are any Gann tie-ins.

If anyone knows of any other mention of the Ganns in any other quests or wilderness zones, I'm interested to learn more. Do we ever learn Nat's fate? Is there anything besides Devil Assault/Chronoscope which give backstory on the Devil invasion and the Ganns?

[Captain_Wizbang]

Now that you mention it, are there any videos or pictures left from inside the tent? Before it got blown up?

Same goes for the old 3BC cave interior prior to the redesign?

Edit:

Nm, here is the tent:
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/458654-Marketplace-scrap-book-pics

Here's the video.


https://youtu.be/TLq20Xsmh3U

[jozzcooper3]

There's never been an annual commemoration of it but there are lots of things in the game that interconnect to the story line of the event, at least as I understand it.

I do wish the story was a little more coherent. Of course, Devil Assault and the Chronoscope Raid are the bulk of the story but that raid wasn't introduced until sometime after I began playing (Fall 2009) a long time after the Tent event itself. Things that tie-in to the story include the seal to the Subterrane in the Market Place, the tent topper on a tiny island in 3BC wilderness, the Gann Urn optional in Party Crashers, the Gann mention from one of the Magic Mouths in Bargain of Blood, and Nat Gann's Pack used as a collectible interact-able on the island in Shipwrecked Spy. IIRC, I think some NPC other than Nat's father also speaks a line of dialogue about him. I've never run VoD but I think it also has to do with the Devil invasion story line, but I don't believe there are any Gann tie-ins.

If anyone knows of any other mention of the Ganns in any other quests or wilderness zones, I'm interested to learn more. Do we ever learn Nat's fate? Is there anything besides Devil Assault/Chronoscope which give backstory on the Devil invasion and the Ganns?

His urn is also among the rarities in Repossession. That thing gets around.

[Aelonwy]

His urn is also among the rarities in Repossession. That thing gets around.

Thank you, its been years since I've paid attention to those. I had forgotten it was among them.

I don't know the story behind most of those objects. It would be really neat if someday they updated that quest with all rare objects that actually reference other quest series across the game. Might even be able to reuse some of them just with some text that hints at the connection to particular adventures. But maybe that's asking too much when there are so many story lines and loose ends still left hanging.

[Dabima]

Some of the others are tied in elsewhere but some are still just random things, like Moggy's toy clay golem. There is an ark from the Truthful One's horde, and I believe a stone scorpion that mentions being from a monastery of the scorpion, long before reaver's refuge came out. One thing I've always loved about DDO is the rich lore and all the tie-ins hidden throughout the game

[Captain_Wizbang]

Thank you, its been years since I've paid attention to those. I had forgotten it was among them.

I don't know the story behind most of those objects. It would be really neat if someday they updated that quest with all rare objects that actually reference other quest series across the game. Might even be able to reuse some of them just with some text that hints at the connection to particular adventures. But maybe that's asking too much when there are so many story lines and loose ends still left hanging.

A little Nat Gann info and a theory.

After the tent event, he laid wounded in the marketplace for a while. An urn commemorated I his name that wound up being used as waste bin in Party Crashers. Of course no one knows if the urn in Sharn series is authentic or not, as that quest has copies of Eberron artwork.:rolleyes:

We, (PnP GRP) are convinced Nat is in fact the Traveler. His mysterious comings and goings in Eberron and the fact that the Attack on Stormreach with the portal being opened was a perfect cover for him to disappear.

That's my tinfoil hat Nat Gann theory.

[iamsamoth0]

It was the catwalks I had longed to see, w/o knowing it,,,:) Refreshing to see after all these years. I used to hate it, then I got to like it. Now, I miss it, and the music track. I still listen to that. @Retired_Old_Gamer, @Aelonwy, @lyrecono, etc all...
I really appreciate the flashback! :)

[jozzcooper3]

I don't know the story behind most of those objects. It would be really neat if someday they updated that quest with all rare objects that actually reference other quest series across the game. Might even be able to reuse some of them just with some text that hints at the connection to particular adventures. But maybe that's asking too much when there are so many story lines and loose ends still left hanging.

Speaking of story lines, the one-off tale of the Caverns of Korromar is something I would like to see a sequel to. It's the one that has intrigued me for many years.

[Aelonwy]

A little Nat Gann info and a theory.

After the tent event, he laid wounded in the marketplace for a while. An urn commemorated I his name that wound up being used as waste bin in Party Crashers. Of course no one knows if the urn in Sharn series is authentic or not, as that quest has copies of Eberron artwork.:rolleyes:

We, (PnP GRP) are convinced Nat is in fact the Traveler. His mysterious comings and goings in Eberron and the fact that the Attack on Stormreach with the portal being opened was a perfect cover for him to disappear.

That's my tinfoil hat Nat Gann theory.

I like mysteries... but this one needs a conclusion.

I don't know if I buy in to that Traveler theory although it goes some distance to explain why the Gann family had the Sliver of Time. At one point during the Chronoscope you see Nat Gann captured by Devils in the tavern behind a barrier. It was never explained what they wanted with him in the first place. What were they up to? or Did Nat make a deal with them to keep himself alive? The Chronoscope raid, has many unanswered questions. You can make some assumptions but... well you end up making a lot of them trying to make sense of it all.

Was the timing of the Devil Invasion critical to Tremas' plot? (Maybe)

Did he need to summon Suulomades during that event, in order to carry out his immortality agenda? (Again maybe, or maybe he just believed it to be so.)

Did Tremas know before the Devil Invasion that the Gann's had the Sliver of Time? (This one is critical because if he didn't know before the Invasion he couldn't be responsible for the capture of Nat, that would have been some other devil faction. He simply used Nat's disappearance for his own purposes.)

If Tremas was responsible for capturing Nat during the Invasion, why didn't he use him to get the Sliver of time then? Why need Nelle? (Possibly, assuming he knew the Ganns' had the Sliver, and he was responsible for capturing Nat... possibly he didn't know Nat didn't have a bank key in time for the event so had to make a backup plan... but why not simply ransom Nat for the Sliver and use the Chronoscope himself? Is it possible he wasn't at the Invasion event and thus couldn't use the Chronoscope to go there himself?)

The more I examine the mystery the more I lean toward Tremas was not responsible for Nat's capture or disappearance. He doesn't know or care about the fate of Nat. He most likely learned of the Ganns' possession of the Sliver of Time after the event, although he may have been searching for it long before. He used Nat's disappearance during the event to manipulate Nelle to acquire the Sliver and because the event itself was either crucial or just beneficial to a ritual for summoning Suulomades or any Greater Devil this was doubly useful to him.

Either way it still begs the question, what is the fate of Nat Gann?

[Aelonwy]

Speaking of story lines, the one-off tale of the Caverns of Korromar is something I would like to see a sequel to. It's the one that has intrigued me for many years.

Caverns of Korromar is very similar in concept to LotR Mines of Moria, both are where the dwarves dug so deep they encountered and freed an ancient evil. Korromar at least was an ancient ruin that the dwarves dug up. Its not particular well explained why the Xoriat influence of a beholder and several demons would cause so much undead though.

Threnal is another ancient ruin dug up which is filled with demons, elementals, and eventually a few beholders with a gate to Xoriat, no undead that I recall.

I guess I wouldn't mind a sequel to Caverns of Korromar that better explained what was going on there. Actually an adventure pack with a cavernous wilderness zone, and a small Kundarak outpost would be neat. I'd much rather it be a Xoriat plot maybe with either cultists of the Dragon Below or a precursor to the Disciples of Rage or even a hint of the Lord of Eyes/Lord of Stone conflict that either obviously or tangentially connected to the Threnal story. I like it when stories interconnect, it makes the world feel more credible, more solid.