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Maldrick
02-13-2020, 11:37 AM
I was handily killing reapers in R7 legendary content before u45. Now it takes me a ludicrous number of attacks, especially against the new reapers, to the point that using hunt's end (which used to one shot some and half hit point others) is barely moving their hp bars. I am playing a ranged character, which I know were just nerfed, but I'm killing everything else in the game fine. Mostly just wondering if this is happening to anyone else or if you have an idea what's causing it?

In case it matters: I'm playing a 18 rogue 1 barbarian 1 artificer halfling and wielding Volley.

droid327
02-13-2020, 11:52 AM
Since you're a Mech, my first thought is are you in Scion of Ethereal and stacking Hide? If so, you might've lost a lot of sneak die, but that shouldnt account for as huge a disparity as you're describing.

Maldrick
02-13-2020, 12:46 PM
Since you're a Mech, my first thought is are you in Scion of Ethereal and stacking Hide? If so, you might've lost a lot of sneak die, but that shouldnt account for as huge a disparity as you're describing.

That's a good point, I forgot about the ethereal nerf. However as I did not take scion of ethereal that can't be it. The weird thing is I'm killing other enemies just fine so it seems like something about reapers specifically. Grazing hits have occurred to me but it's happening way too consistently. This has happened in Quarantine with despair, vengence, fear and famine, and in a Sharn Welcome with doom. It's hard for me to know exactly what I'm seeing happen as when a new reaper shows up I'm usually focused on not dying.

rabidfox
02-13-2020, 12:56 PM
20% damage nerf to IPS is probably the other big effect that you're feeling; you're just noticing it more vs reapers.

Maldrick
02-13-2020, 01:59 PM
So I went back into a Sharn Welcome and did some further testing. Against a doom reaper none of my attacks were critting. In combat at one point it said you roll a 15 (my crit range is 15-20). Then it tries to confirm the crit "You roll to confirm a critical on doom reaper. You roll a 19 (+206): Critical hit resisted!" It's like this over and over again. I never confirmed a crit against the thing. I have a base of 70% fortification bypass.

J1NG
02-13-2020, 02:02 PM
So I went back into a Sharn Welcome and did some further testing. Against a doom reaper none of my attacks were critting. In combat at one point it said you roll a 15 (my crit range is 15-20). Then it tries to confirm the crit "You roll to confirm a critical on doom reaper. You roll a 19 (+206): Critical hit resisted!" It's like this over and over again. I never confirmed a crit against the thing. I have a base of 70% fortification bypass.

Get onto a Guild Ship with a Dummy, do a quick test. See if you can Crit it. If you can't, something is amiss. If you can, we can rule it as something more that was done on the Reaper end.

J1NG

Maldrick
02-13-2020, 02:08 PM
Get onto a Guild Ship with a Dummy, do a quick test. See if you can Crit it. If you can't, something is amiss. If you can, we can rule it as something more that was done on the Reaper end.

J1NG

I've fought numerous other enemies and so far can crit all of them. Also of note upon watching back my footage, is I'm not getting any stacks of the "Your doom will come at the count of 7" doom reapers are supposed to do.

Maldrick
02-13-2020, 02:11 PM
I can crit vs dummy confirmed.

J1NG
02-13-2020, 02:16 PM
I've fought numerous other enemies and so far can crit all of them. Also of note upon watching back my footage, is I'm not getting any stacks of the "Your doom will come at the count of 7" doom reapers are supposed to do.

Definitely something up on the Reaper end then. I haven't got time to go chasing this particular Reaper bug at the moment since I won't necessarily get the Reaper in question and I've got a few more other stuff I'm currently chasing down but will see what I can find later on if I do find a Doom Reaper.

J1NG

TitusOvid
02-13-2020, 02:17 PM
Maybe test it on a cannon cause the dummy goes whack pretty fast.

Did you lose some fort bypass for whatever reason?

Cheers,
Titus.

J1NG
02-13-2020, 02:47 PM
Just went and found some Doom Reapers (Yes, two of them), and they did not have any of the issues you have been describing. Not only was I able to crit against them, I also had the Doom Debuff stack on me as well.

If you only found the issue in one instance, I'm going to guess you got one of those dud instances where they weren't working properly. It likely wouldn't have carried on into other instances.
If you found it was more than one location, then I'm going to guess that you had "lagged" onto the game and actually didn't have everything as you thought you did. And likely when you try again after restarting the client, won't have the same issue.

Can you confirm both of those are inaccurate, and you still have the same issue now (restart client first)?

J1NG

Maldrick
02-14-2020, 10:36 AM
After multiple relogs I can confirm that at least in Sharn, I cannot crit against doom, despair or fear, but can against famine.

J1NG
02-14-2020, 11:56 AM
After multiple relogs I can confirm that at least in Sharn, I cannot crit against doom, despair or fear, but can against famine.

The quick tests I did were over in Slave Lords 3, just zone in R7 walk around corner and often there's a Reaper there waiting for you. Do your testing there. The CR I saw on the tests I conducted were only CR38 for the Doom Reaper. If you are seeing differences in Sharn, then the only thing I can think of is there's some scaling that's going on and their CR is higher, giving them even more Fortification, and so you can't bypass it. Possibly something that wasn't working before but is now. Haven't got time to go check this at this time though, as I've got a few other bugs to hunt and confirm (and check for old exploits and bugs too), but can do so when I have more time.

J1NG

Yamani
02-14-2020, 12:01 PM
After multiple relogs I can confirm that at least in Sharn, I cannot crit against doom, despair or fear, but can against famine.

Legendary Tier 2 reaper.

Maldrick
02-15-2020, 10:56 AM
Tested in slave lords pt 3 and still cant crit new reaps

Maldrick
02-15-2020, 11:29 AM
Ok I played more and started being able to crit new reapers in slave lords, since my test size wasn't very large before maybe I just got unlucky. I don't really know whats going on. Fear reapers in sharn were cr 39 though so I guess tier 2 reap is a possibility. If it is that and that is wai I'll have to consider my position in regards to this game since honestly I only build crit characters.

Maldrick
02-15-2020, 11:30 AM
Can others confirm if they can crit reaps in sharn?

Zites
02-15-2020, 11:48 AM
Tested in slave lords pt 3 and still cant crit new reaps

WAI you should never have been able to crit them + we need to challenge you so you can have fun, no challenge is no fun for you LOL.

Introducing: The MANA DRINKER
1372
Nicknames/Titles: Gluttony, Eater of magic, the blue bar drinker, aka the fun maker

• Age: Unknown

• Species/Ethnicity: Uncritable Reaper/Death

• Traits: Power hungry, manipulative feed back

• Location: Skulls 6-10

• Mental stability: high as long as they get their way

• Hobbies: eating mana, taking care of the elitist.

• Likes: Eating mana/magic

• Dislikes: Those who use mana for self gain, Zerging, Being near melee

• Habits: tends to run from melee combat, caring for those blue balls who are abandoned

• Fears: Paladin/Warpriest

• Weakness: Takes x2 damage from melee light or holy damage attacks

Maldrick
02-15-2020, 12:31 PM
WAI you should never have been able to crit them + we need to challenge you so you can have fun, no challenge is no fun for you LOL.

Introducing: The MANA DRINKER
1372
Nicknames/Titles: Gluttony, Eater of magic, the blue bar drinker, aka the fun maker

• Age: Unknown

• Species/Ethnicity: Uncritable Reaper/Death

• Traits: Power hungry, manipulative feed back

• Location: Skulls 6-10

• Mental stability: high as long as they get their way

• Hobbies: eating mana, taking care of the elitist.

• Likes: Eating mana/magic

• Dislikes: Those who use mana for self gain, Zerging, Being near melee

• Habits: tends to run from melee combat, caring for those blue balls who are abandoned

• Fears: Paladin/Warpriest

• Weakness: Takes x2 damage from melee light or holy damage attacks

Well done.

Zites
02-16-2020, 03:53 AM
Well done.

thx m8