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DDOisFree
02-04-2020, 07:01 AM
You can raise incapped players with Greater Heroism who can subsequently (most likely) heal themselves and return to the fight.

Very awesome tip that even the pros dont know, especially useful on Reaper difficulties.

Xgemina
02-04-2020, 08:27 AM
My low level non-healers have been using the Bracers_of_Assistance (https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Bracers_of_Assistance) from Korthos to quickly get up in-capped party members for years.

Cordovan
02-04-2020, 12:20 PM
Since Catacombs is getting updated in U45 it is worth reminding people that one of its end rewards is a minimum level 1 eternal wand that does 1d2 heal and basically never runs out of charges, also has a fast cast. Can get incapped players up very quickly. Wiki Link (https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Eternal_Wand_of_Cure_Minor_Wounds)

Enoach
02-04-2020, 12:29 PM
Well... not so sure what you are rating as "pro" but there are a lot of interesting options to get people out of incap since players don't using healing/repair kits :)

Options (For all those that left me incap in the HC and watched me bleed out you might want to take notes hehehe)

1. Provide a form of temporary HP
As you noted GH gives those, someone else noted using bracers of defense (Aid spell), but there are also other spells at low level that grant temporary HP.

2. Boost Constitution
This can be done with the Rage spell (Ring of Rage is a low level item), at lower levels the Bear's Endurance (2nd level spell) might add enough CON to boost HP

3. With a little UMD a low level wand of even the eternal wand Cordovan mentioned (You don't need no-fail, a chance to use it is still better then watching the person bleed out)

AlmGhandi
02-04-2020, 01:29 PM
Since Catacombs is getting updated in U45 it is worth reminding people that one of its end rewards is a minimum level 1 eternal wand that does 1d2 heal and basically never runs out of charges, also has a fast cast. Can get incapped players up very quickly. Wiki Link (https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Eternal_Wand_of_Cure_Minor_Wounds)

The best wand in the game....

C-Dog
02-04-2020, 02:18 PM
1. Provide a form of temporary HP
As you noted GH gives those, someone else noted using bracers of defense (Aid spell), but there are also other spells at low level that grant temporary HP.
Don't know how many times I've run w/ a low-heroics Tainted Scholar Warlock who doesn't understand that casting any spell on a party member gives them Feigned Life too. Including incapacitated targets.

(Warlock/Artificers get to double dip with Ablative Armor, but that's one of the few synergies.)

I keep Feather Fall as an easy pick on my hotbar, and spam that before/during combat for an AoE Feigned Life effect.

(Some people ask why I keep casting Feather Fall on them, assuring me that they have a FF item - that's almost understandable, altho' I have no idea where they think their false life HP keep coming from. :rolleyes: )

Rauven
02-04-2020, 04:26 PM
Since Catacombs is getting updated in U45 it is worth reminding people that one of its end rewards is a minimum level 1 eternal wand that does 1d2 heal and basically never runs out of charges, also has a fast cast. Can get incapped players up very quickly. Wiki Link (https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Eternal_Wand_of_Cure_Minor_Wounds)

I built my cleric's entire oeuvre around that wand. It's even referenced in their name.

Kutalp
02-05-2020, 12:14 AM
The best wand in the game....




Roderick's wand ? (Might be my best) :)

Kutalp
02-05-2020, 12:29 AM
You can raise incapped players with Greater Heroism who can subsequently (most likely) heal themselves and return to the fight.

Very awesome tip that even the pros dont know, especially useful on Reaper difficulties.




Yes it is nice.

I am almost allways fix about Heroism and Greater heroism although it is a small bonus. It has been an old habit for me to use Heroism and Greater heroism at my wizards, rogues or Human/rogue/any combinations.


I really wish Human racial tree gave Greater Heroism as a fix bonus without casting; but would also let the tree cast that on team as a mass bonus (5 times a day +1/every 4 char level)


(May be a future Human tree sold at DDO shop would give +2 to all ability score bonuses scattered across the entire the tree instead of temprorary ones aswell as %10 movement and attack/cast speed for 50 AP. +6 to all skills, saves, attack and damage rolls also over 50 AP. Even these are small bonuses the long run but still would replenish old class/races this way with newer versions sold at shop)

AlmGhandi
02-05-2020, 12:58 PM
Roderick's wand ? (Might be my best) :)

I put the Epic Roderics wand in my hand when I am summoning my hirelings/pets.

But the basic wand...…. well it is nice until about L10.... then the things are too weak to be of interest.... actually as soon as I can cast Summon Monster V (bearded devil) the wand is not so interesting.... besides by L10... then I have my scarecrow....

Rauven
02-05-2020, 02:07 PM
I put the Epic Roderics wand in my hand when I am summoning my hirelings/pets.

I'll have to try it again but last time I tried this the buff fell off when I unequipped the wand.


ETA: Yep, just check and if you remove the item that is granting the Augment Summoning feat the buff falls off of the summon. With a hireling out I can watch their HP and SP values change as I equip and unequip my feat granting item. So pulling out epic Roderic's Wand to summon then putting it away doesn't do anything. If you want to benefit from Augment Summoning on an item then it will have to be something you always wear, and that's only three items that I can see: Kindred Pendant (https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Kindred_Pendant), Legendary Kindred Pendant (https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Legendary_Kindred_Pendant), and an attuned Necklace of Mystic Eidolons (https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Necklace_of_Mystic_Eidolons).

AlmGhandi
02-05-2020, 02:39 PM
I'll have to try it again but last time I tried this the buff fell off when I unequiped the wand.

Well watching the hp of the gold seal hirelings.....
we (2 players) have not noticed this

gravisrs
02-05-2020, 08:23 PM
Btw is anyone using healer's kit nowadays ? Long forgotten mechanics....

DDOisFree
02-06-2020, 08:15 PM
Since Catacombs is getting updated in U45 it is worth reminding people that one of its end rewards is a minimum level 1 eternal wand that does 1d2 heal and basically never runs out of charges, also has a fast cast. Can get incapped players up very quickly. Wiki Link (https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Eternal_Wand_of_Cure_Minor_Wounds)

Problem with all the things such as this is still having an inventory slot available for it to fill in 2020.

Fedora1
02-07-2020, 05:25 AM
I'll have to try it again but last time I tried this the buff fell off when I unequipped the wand.


ETA: Yep, just check and if you remove the item that is granting the Augment Summoning feat the buff falls off of the summon. With a hireling out I can watch their HP and SP values change as I equip and unequip my feat granting item. So pulling out epic Roderic's Wand to summon then putting it away doesn't do anything. If you want to benefit from Augment Summoning on an item then it will have to be something you always wear, and that's only three items that I can see: Kindred Pendant (https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Kindred_Pendant), Legendary Kindred Pendant (https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Legendary_Kindred_Pendant), and an attuned Necklace of Mystic Eidolons (https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Necklace_of_Mystic_Eidolons).

I haven't noticed if the hp/sp changes, but when I swap to Kindred Pendant and summon my perma L3 cleric, then put my usual necklace back on, she still has about 2-3 extra charges of Divine Vitality (I think it's 13-14 instead of 10-11).

Fedora1
02-07-2020, 05:27 AM
Good Hope (spell/pot/scroll/bouquet of flowers) may do it as well with the +2 stacking con bonus.

Bard songs.

ZhenBuYaoShi
04-29-2020, 08:13 PM
Since Catacombs is getting updated in U45 it is worth reminding people that one of its end rewards is a minimum level 1 eternal wand that does 1d2 heal and basically never runs out of charges, also has a fast cast. Can get incapped players up very quickly. Wiki Link (https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Eternal_Wand_of_Cure_Minor_Wounds)

Wand of Eternal cure Minor Wounds

Robe of Duality

Epic Robe of Duality

Some sorta epic healing staff (for the epic of the wand)

Could I please get an explanation as to what happened to these items?

C-Dog
04-30-2020, 02:01 PM
First, nice necro.

More to the point, Cat's got re-worked, and all named items now drop in end-chests, not in the end-reward list.