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dunsndras
01-29-2020, 08:43 AM
So according to the new Lammania notes for update 45 " You are not considered to be Two-Handed Fighting while in Wild Shape. " As I understand this, they are making these changes due to wolf and bear form which makes sense. Unfortunately Elemental Form is considered a wild shape. Well as far as I can tell, I can still hold a quarterstaff in my corporeal hands, as I do not have paws with claws, in fire ele form, yet I am not to be considered two handed fighting. Is this intended? So I'm not sure what the point of having Wellspring in the Season's Herald tree would be for quarterstaves.... 2W dmg but now not allowed a 3x ability modifier with all the THF feats... so its completely pointless? Also why have Arcane Warrior at all? It should be possible to melee AND spell cast in fire and water ele forms. I can understand a wolf or bear being different but unless this is worded wrong, it will be a my druid not using wild shape... a completely non druid thing to do in the first place. It is one of the few classes that had the potential to be melee and spell casting, like vampire monk. Hopefully this gets ironed out or they did not mean ALL Wild Shape.... perhaps bears and wolves... things that cant hold weapons in their paws? Im just failing to see the logic in this game design but perhaps it is bad wording or not the case.

LeoLionxxx
01-29-2020, 10:38 AM
So according to the new Lammania notes for update 45 " You are not considered to be Two-Handed Fighting while in Wild Shape. " As I understand this, they are making these changes due to wolf and bear form which makes sense. Unfortunately Elemental Form is considered a wild shape. Well as far as I can tell, I can still hold a quarterstaff in my corporeal hands, as I do not have paws with claws, in fire ele form, yet I am not to be considered two handed fighting. Is this intended? So I'm not sure what the point of having Wellspring in the Season's Herald tree would be for quarterstaves.... 2W dmg but now not allowed a 3x ability modifier with all the THF feats... so its completely pointless? Also why have Arcane Warrior at all? It should be possible to melee AND spell cast in fire and water ele forms. I can understand a wolf or bear being different but unless this is worded wrong, it will be a my druid not using wild shape... a completely non druid thing to do in the first place. It is one of the few classes that had the potential to be melee and spell casting, like vampire monk. Hopefully this gets ironed out or they did not mean ALL Wild Shape.... perhaps bears and wolves... things that cant hold weapons in their paws? Im just failing to see the logic in this game design but perhaps it is bad wording or not the case.

Probably and hopefully just ill wording on the description. I encourage you to post in the 2H feedback thread (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/511788-U45-Preview-2-Balance-Two-Handed-Fighting-Changes), to prompt the devs to get that description updated and/or make sure the elemental wild shapes don't disable 2HF.

Did you test this on Lamania?

dunsndras
01-29-2020, 10:54 AM
Probably and hopefully just ill wording on the description. I encourage you to post in the 2H feedback thread (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/511788-U45-Preview-2-Balance-Two-Handed-Fighting-Changes), to prompt the devs to get that description updated and/or make sure the elemental wild shapes don't disable 2HF.

Did you test this on Lamania?

OK a designer in the original thread confirmed it is meant for only natural forms - bear and wolf.