Crafted Great Crossbow

[bru]

What would be a better crafted Great Crossbow before Improved Critical Ranged feat.

Force and Keen or Force and Piercing?

[Hobgoblin]

What would be a better crafted Great Crossbow before Improved Critical Ranged feat.

Force and Keen or Force and Piercing?

does it have a red slot?

then no keen.

there is/was a bug with red slots and keen

[Dragavon]

What would be a better crafted Great Crossbow before Improved Critical Ranged feat.

Force and Keen or Force and Piercing?

Great crossbows are not good at low levels.

As for when they become good that depens on your class and build. For a rogue mech then you need 18 levels of rogue before the great crossbow is better than a heavy repeater. For an artificer I would argue the heavy repeater will always be best.

I always craft good as prefix on lowbie weapons, imo that is much more useful than force. Good is the basic DR breaker for almost everything that has DR in low levels, and just try doing Delera without a good weapon.

Keen is always best as suffix I think. Not only does it increase your crit range, it also adds 0,5w to base damage on your weapon.

[kmoustakas]

does it have a red slot?

then no keen.

there is/was a bug with red slots and keen

This.

Also, it would be good so you can bypass random devil's - demon's damage reduction.

[bru]

Thanks for the replies I completely forgot about the bug with keen and red slots. I just use holy bolts to bypass good dr with tier 3 fletching from mechanic tree the bolts last a long time.

[Oghma_Infinium]

does it have a red slot?

then no keen.

there is/was a bug with red slots and keen

False
Keen is not stable on Cannith Crafted for obscur reasons, but it's not related to Keen only (weither there's a Red Slot or not).

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/485923-Information-Needed-Keen?highlight=crafting+keen+red+slot+bug

Strange thing occured when I tested it.
It appear to be scaled (tested on ML10 , it gave Keen II) even if it's classified as non-scaled in opposition to the NRLG weapons that get Keen I whatever the ML.

remainder :
Keen I : double critical range (BPM +1)
Keen II : double critical range + 0,5[W] (BPM ?)
Keen III : double critical range + 1[W] (BPM ?)
Keen IV : double critical range + 1,5[W] (BPM ?)
Keen V : double critical range + 2[W] (BPM ?)

I'd have to check on old RLG weapons to get the exact BPM of higher version of Keen

[droid327]

Great crossbows are not good at low levels.

As for when they become good that depens on your class and build. For a rogue mech then you need 18 levels of rogue before the great crossbow is better than a heavy repeater. For an artificer I would argue the heavy repeater will always be best.

I always craft good as prefix on lowbie weapons, imo that is much more useful than force. Good is the basic DR breaker for almost everything that has DR in low levels, and just try doing Delera without a good weapon.

Keen is always best as suffix I think. Not only does it increase your crit range, it also adds 0,5w to base damage on your weapon.

I think the GXB threshold is really 12, when you get 30% alacrity and the other T5s in Mech. Attack speed is what GXB/DXB has that puts them ahead of RXBs.

Also Keen (first tier) doesnt add 0.5W, you're thinking of Vorpal.

[C-Dog]

Force and Keen or Force and Piercing?
Keen is a huge advantage to DPS, and you can put Piercing on gloves (or a trinket, which can be farmed up during the upcoming Risia games)

https://ddowiki.com/page/Risia_Ice_Games#Turning-in_Rewards

[Sikaril_Shadowblade]

I had to post this time , I dont know why you guys keep going on with the no keen on a red slot weapon
I just crafted a lvl 4 heavy crossbow force and keen with a red slot just fine , maybe try looking at the weapon
profile before saying it does not work , I'll give you that the weapon name does not have keen in it but look
at the profile and it will be keen just fine.

Sikaril Shadowblade

[C-Dog]

I dont know why you guys keep going on with the no keen on a red slot weapon
I just crafted a lvl 4 heavy crossbow force and keen with a red slot just fine...
It's not that you can't craft it, it's that it has been reported - MULTIPLE times, and confirmed by multiple sources - to be unstable, with a potential to lose the slot (and the augment in it).

Reported enough times to be accepted as a given.

And now you do know.:cool:

[kmoustakas]

It's not that you can't craft it, it's that it has been reported - MULTIPLE times, and confirmed by multiple sources - to be unstable, with a potential lose the slot (and the augment in it).

Reported enough time to be accepted as a given.

And now you do know.:cool:

This. I did it and lost my meteoric ruby. Next time I logged in the x-bow was a blank. Not a crafting blank: a blankety blank of blank with no description whatsoever. Since then I've made multiples but I avoid *keen* like the plague. I'm assuming it's literally a string size error overwritting something and causing the next full read to explode.

[Mindos]

This. I did it and lost my meteoric ruby. Next time I logged in the x-bow was a blank. Not a crafting blank: a blankety blank of blank with no description whatsoever. Since then I've made multiples but I avoid *keen* like the plague. I'm assuming it's literally a string size error overwritting something and causing the next full read to explode.

There's some kind of "hidden lingering" keen effect, not so much the keen you crafted on it, but possibly the keen someone else crafted once long ago before blanking it. Or maybe it had keen from random gen before it got blanked. Or maybe the minimum level scaling from certain red augments is incorrectly trying to scale the W as if it was Keen II, III, Rocky IV, etc. Or maybe its the Wondrous "Fix" grabbing them by mistake after this wonky wrong scaling. Who knows? It could just be all made up. I've never had it happen to me :)

[Dragavon]

I think the GXB threshold is really 12, when you get 30% alacrity and the other T5s in Mech. Attack speed is what GXB/DXB has that puts them ahead of RXBs.

Also Keen (first tier) doesnt add 0.5W, you're thinking of Vorpal.

Back when I was levelling my mech rogue I started trying the GXbow at lvl 12 too. But my feeling was that I needed lvl 18 and the lvl 18 mech core before the GXbow started to shine and was better than heavy repeater. Sure, bigger numbers with the GXbow, but I felt repeater was more effective and let me move through quests faster.

[Hobgoblin]

Back when I was levelling my mech rogue I started trying the GXbow at lvl 12 too. But my feeling was that I needed lvl 18 and the lvl 18 mech core before the GXbow started to shine and was better than heavy repeater. Sure, bigger numbers with the GXbow, but I felt repeater was more effective and let me move through quests faster.

for me it was divine artillery that made the difference. then 18 was just insane