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ViggoEvan
12-15-2019, 07:20 AM
Hi y'all im going to run an iconic duo with my friend he was probably going to run a pure teifling scoundrel bard. I was thinking a caster artificer focus on evocations saves, casting, healing ect before anyone says my other epic toon is an inquisitor so he wont let me run inquisitor lol so if I get a build from somewhere thanks.

HastyPudding
12-15-2019, 09:04 AM
Arcanotech artificers are on a constant decline from the start. They are amazing in low-mid heroics, good in higher heroics, solid in lower epics, and mediocre in mid-high epics. Arcanotechs are not suitable for anything over R3, honestly. They have some decent CC, supportive buffs, and healing, but just don't have the damage potential; they're a true jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none spellcaster, and it shows. I've taken an arcanotech from 1 to 30 and stayed at cap a bit. It's just not worth the effort if you want to do anything over epic elite, and even then you're just a weak (if somewhat durable) sorcerer with only one real damage type and some heals.

If you insist on an iconic caster artificer, go with a deep gnome and mix the arcanotechnician and mastermaker trees, focusing on support and evocation DC's; just don't place too much emphasis on damage, because you're not going to get very far, in that regard. A mastermaker can be very tanky and have a lot of damage mitigation potential with their multiple force fields; add in some tactical detonations and prismatic strikes and you're good to go. Removing the 1 wizard level isn't worth it if you're just going for an iconic life with your friend and not staying at cap.

C-Dog
12-15-2019, 11:26 AM
Here are some (unsorted/unfiltered) builds, should give you an idea of the basic direction:

o 3 standard arti's https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/117232-Request-a-Build-Get-a-Build?p=6127671&viewfull=1#post6127671
& further comments re same 3 https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/117232-Request-a-Build-Get-a-Build?p=6127961&viewfull=1#post6127961

o "Best Repeater builds" https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/501872-Gimme-your-best-repeater-build?p=6165816&viewfull=1#post6165816

o CRITZILLA https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/475654-Electric-Critzilla?p=5829045&viewfull=1#post5829045
& https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/475654-Electric-Critzilla?p=5829045&viewfull=1#post5829045

o https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/488373-quot-Vorpal-Queen-quot-Gnome-20-Artificer-for-U36?p=5999295&viewfull=1#post5999295

o Endless Fusilader https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/493152-The-Never-Ending-Fusilade?p=6057709&viewfull=1#post6057709
& AP spread: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/493152-The-Never-Ending-Fusilade?p=6058168&viewfull=1#post6058168

o Vorpal Queen - (Deep?) Gnome? https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/488373-quot-Vorpal-Queen-quot-Gnome-20-Artificer-for-U36?p=6093226&viewfull=1#post6093226

o Gnome w/ Colorspray https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/117232-Request-a-Build-Get-a-Build?p=6128350&viewfull=1#post6128350

(There are also endless multiclass builds that include Arti + Repeaters/GXB)

Fedora1
12-15-2019, 12:48 PM
Hi y'all im going to run an iconic duo with my friend he was probably going to run a pure teifling scoundrel bard.

Turn your audio off. lol

Kalapurka
12-15-2019, 03:14 PM
Hi y'all im going to run an iconic duo with my friend he was probably going to run a pure teifling scoundrel bard. I was thinking a caster artificer focus on evocations saves, casting, healing ect before anyone says my other epic toon is an inquisitor so he wont let me run inquisitor lol so if I get a build from somewhere thanks.
Any Race
20 Arty
Inquisitive 41
Battle engineer 21
Harper 18

feats: Generic ranged (point-blank shot, precision, improved crit range.....)

Jaxtan
12-15-2019, 05:37 PM
While you did mention casting focused, this is a very noob friendly arty build that puts out some solid dps with mediocre gear while leveling. It is something I did a few weeks ago to start a first character on a new server. It does require a +5 Dexterity tome to get a couple of the dexterity limited feats (Improved Precise Shot and Combat Archery). You can pick different feats at first, and then respec to the dexterity limited feats after getting enough favor for the free +5 stat tome. It leveled quickly and was able to support EE and ER1 when in a group. It's a glass cannon, so soloing is mostly limited to EH. You can also heal others to a limited extent, and cast things like flame turrets and tactical detonation to a limited extent.

When geared with level 29 named sets, a sentient weapon and a full epic destiny, it can be pretty solid at level 30 given it has no past lives. It can probably be improved by others who have more experience. I left out a couple of AP that can be used for whatever is perceived as best.

1st Life PDK Arty Inquisitive Build
18/2 Artificer/Fighter
True Neutral Purple Dragon Knight


Level Order

1. Fighter . . . . 6. Artificer . . .11. Artificer . . .16. Artificer
2. Artificer. . . .7. Fighter . . . .12. Artificer . . .17. Artificer
3. Artificer. . . .8. Artificer. . . 13. Artificer. . . 18. Artificer
4. Artificer. . . .9. Artificer. . . 14. Artificer. . . 19. Artificer
5. Artificer. . . 10. Artificer. . . 15. Artificer. . . 20. Artificer


Stats
. . . . . . . .32pt . . Tome . . Level Up
. . . . . . . .---- . . ----. . .--------
Strength. . . . .8. . . . . . . . 4: INT
Dexterity . . . 16. . . .+5. . . .8: INT
Constitution. . 14. . . . . . . .12: INT
Intelligence. . 18. . . . . . . .16: INT
Wisdom. . . . . .8. . . . . . . .20: INT
Charisma. . . . .8. . . . . . . .24: INT
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: INT

Skills
. . . . . F .A .A .A .A .A .F. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A
. . . . . 1 .2 .3 .4 .5 .6 .7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
Disable . . .2 .2 .3 .1 .1 . . 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Open Lo . . .2 .2 .3 .1 .1 . . 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Search. . 2 .2 .2 .1 .1 .1 . . 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Spot. . . 2 .2 .2 .1 .1 .1 . . 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Jump. . . 4 . . . . . . . . 6 . . ½. 1½ 1½ 1½ 1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .23
UMD . . . 2 .1 .1 .1 .3 .1 . . 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Concent . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 12
Heal. . . 2 . . . . . . .1 .½. . . . ½. . . . ½. ½. ½. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1½ 11
Balance . 2 . . . . . 1. 1. . . . 2. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
. . . . .28 .9 .9 .9 .9 .9 .7 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 11 11 11 11 11


Feats

.1. . . . : Point Blank Shot
.1 PDK. . : Augment Summoning
.1 Fighter: Weapon Focus: Ranged
.3. . . . : Precision
.5 Arti . : Precise Shot
.6. . . . : Insightful Reflexes
.7 Fighter: Rapid Shot
.9. . . . : Dodge
10 Arti . : Improved Critical: Ranged
12. . . . : Mobility
14 Arti . : Shot on the Run
15. . . . : Improved Precise Shot
18. . . . : Power Critical
18 Arti . : Eschew Materials
21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic . : Combat Archery
26 Destiny: Holy Strike
27 Epic . : Blinding Speed
28 Destiny: Doubleshot
29 Destiny: Deific Warding
30 Epic . : Improved Augment Summoning
30 Legend : Scion of: Elysium


Spells

Ablative Armor (2), Conjure Bolts (2), Resistance (3), Enchant Weapons (13), Enchant Armor (19)
Repair Moderate Damage (4), Admixture: Cure Moderate Wounds (4), Insightful Strikes (5), Elemental Weapons (10), Lucky Cape (15), Byeshk Weapons (20)
Repair Serious Damage (8), Insightful Damage (8), Stoneskin (9), Flame Turret (13), Admixture: Remove Disease (17)
Repair Critical Damage (11), Armor of Speed (11), Protection from Elements (12), Admixture: Remove Poison (16), Lesser Globe of Invulnerability (19)
Admixture: Cure Critical Wounds (14), Align Weapons (15), Admixture: Remove Curse (19)
Deadly Weapons (17), Tactical Detonation (18)

Enhancements (78 of 80 AP)

Inquisitive (41 AP) Inquisitive, Hit the Streets, Mind Like Iron, True Seeing, Undaunted, Master Inquisitive Dual Shooter, Eye for Accuracy III, Law on your Side
Crossbow Adept, Observation, Improved Law, Action Boost: Skills II
Crossbow Adept, Improved Observation, Intelligence
Crossbow Adept, Martial Inquisition, Greater Law, Intelligence
No Holds Barred, Improved Uncanny Dodge, Jaded, Diplomatic Immunity
Battle Engineer (31 AP) Battle Engineer, Infused Weapons, Infused Armor, Infused Weapons II, Infused Armor II Crossbow Training, Field Engineer III
Crossbow Training, Extra Action Boost III
Crossbow Training, Intelligence
Crossbow Training, Endless Fusilade, Agility Engine III, Intelligence
Kensei (3 AP) Kensei Focus: Crossbows Weapon Group Specialization
Harper Agent (3 AP) Agent of Good I Strategic Combat

Kutalp
12-15-2019, 05:56 PM
If you play as Artificer, Warlock or Inquisitve. You dont need anything else really. Just play the class as it is.

If you want trapping skills rogue, if better ranged abilites than ranger if more tankiness and extra cleaves for free Eldricht wizard to be splashed. (and more goodies)



Just that simple.

C-Dog
12-15-2019, 09:11 PM
...to all those who posted "inquisitor"...

before anyone says my other epic toon is an inquisitor so he wont let me run inquisitor
Of course, I can't point fingers - I totally overlooked this detail...

I was thinking a caster artificer focus on evocations saves, casting, healing ect :rolleyes:

So...

o https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/502256-U41-Electroficer-Pure-Artificer?p=6170141&viewfull=1#post6170141

and there were a couple DC casters in the earlier list, Critzilla perhaps being top.

cru121
12-15-2019, 11:49 PM
Deep Gnome Evoker / Illusionist should work just fine! Are you willing to pay for a +1 heart or not?
Anyway:
- stats would be INT and con
- feats would be all kind of metamagics (max emp quick heighten +)
- AP would be 41ish arcanotech, 21ish RMM, rest in race. 3 AP in Harper for int-to-hit if you want to have a weak melee or ranged backup.
- gear would be ideally some medium or heavy armor + large/tower shield

You are primarily a DC caster with heals.
CC: Color Spray and Tactical Detonation; Prismatic Strike for single targets, Lightning Sphere for soft CC. In epics add Burst of Glacial Wrath.
Keep Palliative Admixture on cooldown to grant the ever useful temporary HP. Use Admixture SLAs and the CCW spell for heals. Start tossing in advance to keep your team up.

You can scroll Displacement (1 minute duration, no ASF).

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/475654-Electric-Critzilla?p=6096829&viewfull=1#post6096829

droid327
12-16-2019, 12:51 AM
Yeah pure caster arti is not really recommended for an epic life and def not worth burning a heart to go iconic with your friend...

I'd just focus on xbow damage with a ranger or rogue split, repeaters aren't inquis lol

ViggoEvan
12-16-2019, 06:15 AM
Yeah pure caster arti is not really recommended for an epic life and def not worth burning a heart to go iconic with your friend...

I'd just focus on xbow damage with a ranger or rogue split, repeaters aren't inquis lol

well my current highest level toon is a ranger rogue art split inquisitor so I thinking something a little different

ViggoEvan
12-16-2019, 06:15 AM
thanks for all the responses everybody!

droid327
12-16-2019, 06:33 AM
well my current highest level toon is a ranger rogue art split inquisitor so I thinking something a little different

Then go different entirely and swap up the class

mr420247
12-16-2019, 03:28 PM
It might be fun to play in drac ed max lightning power dps gear

Burst, breath, vortex, lightning motes trash should melt low to mid reaper

Def want to be tiefling though for immunes

Kutalp
12-16-2019, 03:34 PM
Do what you wish to. Yes you may suffer compared to catered builds but you will be playing what you want to play at least... (shrugs)