Use your brain, please?

[Zogid]

Hello ddo players

I recently read some threads in the forums.
People are suggesting removing stat requirements for levers and runes. Limiting use of certain enhancements in hardcore gaming. Taking a vote to start a new toon on the same server with everyone. Complaints about hardcore being only for vips.

Here is my (also) stupid suggestion.

Before you suggest something about the game please take a little time to think about several things:
1. Is my idea selfish. For example, do i just dislike something and want my way.
2. Why would someone as smart (or smarter) than me disagree? And, if so, do i still have an argument
3. Is my idea really feasible within the parameters of the ddo game itself? Is it a worthwhile idea for the business of ddo? The only way they will change something is if there is a financial reward or prevention of financial loss.
4. Am i just bored?

To address the ideas I listed at the start.
1. quit being such wimps. you want to remove stat requirements for levers. How about this... if you don't want the challenge you can always download bubble witch on your cell phone... then please leave us alone.
2. Inquisitives are way overpowered. I think its obvious. However, why would they nerf something that you have to buy? And.. since we have so many whiners looking for an easy way out.. they are much more likely to make the other enhancement trees MORE powerful .. than they are too make things more difficult.
3. A server merge is a great idea. But, just because you don't mind starting a new toon doesn't mean that reality exists for all. For example, if you have a triple completionist character (many of us do) that is a lot of time and a great sense of accomplishment that would be lost. There is no way that idea would ever happen. I for one would just leave the game. And, my guess is many other players would as well.
4. The VIP thing. I'm a VIP. I wasn't always. But, i was thinking the other day about every dollar i spend on the game........
So.. Out of each 1$ I spend:
A portion goes to running the game and future programming
A portion goes to SSG staff salaries
A portion goes to SSG profit and shareholders
A portion goes toward "new player enticement" and "server populating" This portion pays for the non-vips. So, I pay for you... Your welcome!
This is a company that runs a game. If you want the game to keep going then you should play it.. and pay for it. Otherwise. no money = no game.

Thanks

P.S.
If you are a millenial and wrote one of those suggestions I apologize for offending your spoiled sense of self.

[Nyata]

just throwing my two cents premium perspective in there:

I spent more money on points this year than VIP costs for a year. And yet I believe there should be more exclusive events and rewards for VIP, because sadly, as things are, I don't see any reason to go VIP for me. I have all content, the characters I play all can open elite, leaving only some more character slots, a wee bit more XP, and a saga skip. None of those seem worth it to me, and i rather treat myself to some points when I need... well, a treat. Other girls buy shoes :) Also I am a rather irregular and inconsistent player, sometimes I binge, then again I do not play again for months. so paying for VIP when I don't feel like playing just kind of doesn't agree with me. I think the difference between VIP and Premium player mentality is not so much based in their wallet, but in how and when they like to use that wallet. But for some reason people insist there is a conflict there.

I am glad there is VIP players who chose to support the game on a regular basis. And they should be rewarded for that.

[shores11]

Hello ddo players

I recently read some threads in the forums.
People are suggesting removing stat requirements for levers and runes. Limiting use of certain enhancements in hardcore gaming. Taking a vote to start a new toon on the same server with everyone. Complaints about hardcore being only for vips.

Here is my (also) stupid suggestion.

Before you suggest something about the game please take a little time to think about several things:
1. Is my idea selfish. For example, do i just dislike something and want my way.
2. Why would someone as smart (or smarter) than me disagree? And, if so, do i still have an argument
3. Is my idea really feasible within the parameters of the ddo game itself? Is it a worthwhile idea for the business of ddo? The only way they will change something is if there is a financial reward or prevention of financial loss.
4. Am i just bored?

To address the ideas I listed at the start.
1. quit being such wimps. you want to remove stat requirements for levers. How about this... if you don't want the challenge you can always download bubble witch on your cell phone... then please leave us alone.
2. Inquisitives are way overpowered. I think its obvious. However, why would they nerf something that you have to buy? And.. since we have so many whiners looking for an easy way out.. they are much more likely to make the other enhancement trees MORE powerful .. than they are too make things more difficult.
3. A server merge is a great idea. But, just because you don't mind starting a new toon doesn't mean that reality exists for all. For example, if you have a triple completionist character (many of us do) that is a lot of time and a great sense of accomplishment that would be lost. There is no way that idea would ever happen. I for one would just leave the game. And, my guess is many other players would as well.
4. The VIP thing. I'm a VIP. I wasn't always. But, i was thinking the other day about every dollar i spend on the game........
So.. Out of each 1$ I spend:
A portion goes to running the game and future programming
A portion goes to SSG staff salaries
A portion goes to SSG profit and shareholders
A portion goes toward "new player enticement" and "server populating" This portion pays for the non-vips. So, I pay for you... Your welcome!
This is a company that runs a game. If you want the game to keep going then you should play it.. and pay for it. Otherwise. no money = no game.

Thanks

P.S.
If you are a millenial and wrote one of those suggestions I apologize for offending your spoiled sense of self.

Everything you said was awesome and agree with you. Many kudos.

[shores11]

just throwing my two cents premium perspective in there:

I spent more money on points this year than VIP costs for a year. And yet I believe there should be more exclusive events and rewards for VIP, because sadly, as things are, I don't see any reason to go VIP for me. I have all content, the characters I play all can open elite, leaving only some more character slots, a wee bit more XP, and a saga skip. None of those seem worth it to me, and i rather treat myself to some points when I need... well, a treat. Other girls buy shoes :) Also I am a rather irregular and inconsistent player, sometimes I binge, then again I do not play again for months. so paying for VIP when I don't feel like playing just kind of doesn't agree with me.

So your post/reply is more about why you prefer premium over VIP. This is your choice and I support you. However this is really not what the OPs topic was about.

[Zogid]

I understand your point of view because i did the exact same thing before.

However,
From SSGs perspective.. I'm guessing the players that spend the most total money are the vips. Because they buy the vip and buy other stuff too. So, SSG probably wants as many incentives for vips as they can produce.

I do agree with you that a non vip can spend a lot of money. But, I think when they do their finances they find that once a player has vip they are more likely to spend more money. And, that a massive amount of the games funding comes from vips.

Anyway.. I wasn't really clear on my argument to begin with....

People were complaining that hardcore was only for vips. I'm saying that I'm glad it was. The game needs regular income to stay afloat and the players need other dedicated players to populate the servers.

In a perfect world I would totally agree with a server merge, a HC entrance ddo store purchase, and inquisitive nerfing... however, i don't think its smart for the company... its sad but.. I try to adapt to what is available

[Zogid]

Everything you said was awesome and agree with you. Many kudos.

Thanks

[Zogid]

Blaming a generation means blaming the one right before as they served the model or anti model, and then it means blaming all generations before them :P.

It is possible to apply logic to ideas by using some other parts of da brain.

Ya, but milenials are idiots

[shores11]

Blaming a generation means blaming the one right before as they served the model or anti model, and then it means blaming all generations before them :P.

It is possible to apply logic to ideas by using some other parts of da brain.

lol - you made his point exactly. Thank you for the chuckle.

[Zogid]

comon ddo.. i just want to get back to playing my overpowered solo inquisitive that i'm starting from scratch on the server that i'm betting everyone will vote to go to

[Zogid]

Ya, but they were born in a world established to produce idiots, well kinda by mentally debilitated idiots.

I agree completely. People wonder why there are problems today.. Its because we live in the greatest idiot production factory of all time! woohoo!

[Zogid]

I'm just bored.

Lets argue to other side:

1. It would be great if players really got involved and voted for 1 server... what power we would show SSG that we have. It would really be a great feeling.

2. Why not nerf some enhancement trees for HC? The game is way too easy as it is.

3. Many of us don't have tons of money. It would be nice if the full game was available to everyone and not just VIPs ( meaning the hardcore server)

4. Millenials are the future.. we can learn a lot from their more modern survival skills and attitude.

Go facebook likes!!!!

[Drunkendex]

I'm just bored.

But sadly not bored enough to read community rules.

https://www.ddo.com/en/community/community-rules

[Wizard1406]

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2. Inquisitives are way overpowered. I think its obvious. However, why would they nerf something that you have to buy? And.. since we have so many whiners looking for an easy way out.. they are much more likely to make the other enhancement trees MORE powerful .. than they are too make things more difficult.
3. A server merge is a great idea. But, just because you don't mind starting a new toon doesn't mean that reality exists for all. For example, if you have a triple completionist character (many of us do) that is a lot of time and a great sense of accomplishment that would be lost. There is no way that idea would ever happen. I for one would just leave the game. And, my guess is many other players would as well.
4. The VIP thing. I'm a VIP. I wasn't always. But, i was thinking the other day about every dollar i spend on the game........
So.. [...]


Thanks



I agree about 2., buff other underpowered trees instead of nerfing things. People are always unhappy about nerfs anyway. The more power is in enhancements and gear instead of PLs the easier it is to catch up. New(ish) and casual(ish) can contribute better if they can play with strong enhancement trees - like inquistive currently.

3. What does server merge have to do with losing triple completionist characters? The goal is obviously to make a server merge where nobody would lose anything but possibly character / guild names.

4. agree... VIP is a good deal. There are many overpriced things in DDO, but not VIP.

[C-Dog]

I agree w/ everything on the OP. However, from a practical standpoint... have you met the internet? :rolleyes:

4. Millenials are the future..
No, millenials' children are the future - and do I feel sorry for them. :cool:

[Zretch]

However, why would they nerf something that you have to buy?

Ask warlocks and monks.

[Nyata]

I agree w/ everything on the OP. However, from a practical standpoint... have you met the internet? :rolleyes:

No, millenials' children are the future - and do I feel sorry for them. :cool:

hmm i cannot help but wonder who raised the millenials though into what they are today...

[droid327]

2. Inquisitives are way overpowered. I think its obvious.

3. A server merge is a great idea.

2. No they're not. You just broke your own Rule #1.

3. No its not. And also, what you're describing isnt a server merge, its a server migration.


Dont go making blanket false statements as though their truth is self-evident.

[C-Dog]

hmm i cannot help but wonder who raised the millenials though into what they are today...
Then allow me to explain it to you.

No one person did, society did, as a whole, as an irresistible, inevitable, impersonal force. It's the same as realizing that "individuals are not all stupid, but people certainly are" - it's not about parents raising children, it's about the environment and social trends that exist as a larger influence.

The second war taught a generation to be tough, because that was necessary. Their children learned to be caring, because that was then necessary. Their children learned to make money, because that was then necessary. Their children learned to be (something like) political, because that was necessary. And millenials learned to expect instant gratification, because of the internet.

Or something like that. And here we all are.:p

[fatherpirate]

I did start the server merge vote on it thing, but I did it to make a point.

Most of the game population can not agree on anything,
other than lag is bad. The one agreed thing lag= bad.

Other than that, we all agree on nothing

Half want a server merge, half don't
Half like horses, half don't
Half like the new enhancement tree, half loath it.

As long as we don't generally agree on anything, the Developers will do as they please.
Call it, the right of ownership.

Why even bother to bring it up?

I would like folks to stop arguing at length on stuff we will never agree on and instead
talk about things the developers have decided to do.

Less effort on what we want and will not get.
More effort on what they are currently giving us.

Peace

[Eryhn]

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[Chai]

I did start the server merge vote on it thing, but I did it to make a point.

Most of the game population can not agree on anything,
other than lag is bad. The one agreed thing lag= bad.

Other than that, we all agree on nothing

Half want a server merge, half don't
Half like horses, half don't
Half like the new enhancement tree, half loath it.

As long as we don't generally agree on anything, the Developers will do as they please.
Call it, the right of ownership.

Why even bother to bring it up?

I would like folks to stop arguing at length on stuff we will never agree on and instead
talk about things the developers have decided to do.

Less effort on what we want and will not get.
More effort on what they are currently giving us.

Peace

We should continue to ask for the things we want.

There are things we got after asking for them for a number of years.

Druids.

Quest completion XP ransack changes.

Lowering of XP needed per TR2+ life. (used to be 4.3m Xp in an era where there was 1x level 15 quest and 5x level 16 quests, with XP ransack)

Mounts.

Explorers in slayer zones returning to the old format.

Updates to event loot.

Crafting system revamp

Teleports to quests in slayer zones.

Those are just the examples I can think of off the top of my head without looking any up. I'm sure there are plenty more.

There's a real easy solution for those not wanting to read through threads where people discuss the merits of a suggestion while debating the pros and cons. Simply dont read it. /shrug.

[fatherpirate]

asking is good

Multi-thread arguments on the validity of the request, not so much

So, in my (likely flawed) opinion:

asking for something - ok
Saying you are for or against that - ok
Multi-thread rant filled arguments that make it look like the winner will get
what they want if they keep yelling about it - not ok

happy holidays
turn off the computer, go outside and do something real.

peace

(my do something real is carpet cleaning today)
Fun? no
Real? yes

[shores11]

But sadly not bored enough to read community rules.

https://www.ddo.com/en/community/community-rules

lol - you made the OPs point exactly. Thank you for the chuckle.

[cdbd3rd]

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[MaeveTuohy]

I did start the server merge vote on it thing, but I did it to make a point.

Most of the game population can not agree on anything,
other than lag is bad. The one agreed thing lag= bad.

Other than that, we all agree on nothing



Not true. Everyone agrees that we would like a searchable, sortable bank and inventory.

[krimsonrane]

Hello ddo players

I recently read some threads in the forums.
People are suggesting removing stat requirements for levers and runes. Limiting use of certain enhancements in hardcore gaming. Taking a vote to start a new toon on the same server with everyone. Complaints about hardcore being only for vips.

Here is my (also) stupid suggestion.

Before you suggest something about the game please take a little time to think about several things:
1. Is my idea selfish. For example, do i just dislike something and want my way.
2. Why would someone as smart (or smarter) than me disagree? And, if so, do i still have an argument
3. Is my idea really feasible within the parameters of the ddo game itself? Is it a worthwhile idea for the business of ddo? The only way they will change something is if there is a financial reward or prevention of financial loss.
4. Am i just bored?

To address the ideas I listed at the start.
1. quit being such wimps. you want to remove stat requirements for levers. How about this... if you don't want the challenge you can always download bubble witch on your cell phone... then please leave us alone.
2. Inquisitives are way overpowered. I think its obvious. However, why would they nerf something that you have to buy? And.. since we have so many whiners looking for an easy way out.. they are much more likely to make the other enhancement trees MORE powerful .. than they are too make things more difficult.
3. A server merge is a great idea. But, just because you don't mind starting a new toon doesn't mean that reality exists for all. For example, if you have a triple completionist character (many of us do) that is a lot of time and a great sense of accomplishment that would be lost. There is no way that idea would ever happen. I for one would just leave the game. And, my guess is many other players would as well.
4. The VIP thing. I'm a VIP. I wasn't always. But, i was thinking the other day about every dollar i spend on the game........
So.. Out of each 1$ I spend:
A portion goes to running the game and future programming
A portion goes to SSG staff salaries
A portion goes to SSG profit and shareholders
A portion goes toward "new player enticement" and "server populating" This portion pays for the non-vips. So, I pay for you... Your welcome!
This is a company that runs a game. If you want the game to keep going then you should play it.. and pay for it. Otherwise. no money = no game.

Thanks

P.S.
If you are a millenial and wrote one of those suggestions I apologize for offending your spoiled sense of self.

There are more offensive general blanket insults here than I can shake a stick at. Where's a moderator when you need one. You don't get to tell other paying customers what to do, how to do, or when to do anything. I don't know who this magical majority called us "then please leave us alone." you speak of, but it sounds like they have an issue with an entire generation of people who you just wrapped up into a small package

wimps... lol man... while bragging bout your triple completionist...

[draven1]

1. quit being such wimps. you want to remove stat requirements for levers. How about this... if you don't want the challenge you can always download bubble witch on your cell phone... then please leave us alone.


What challenge is brought by stat requirement for levers? It is nothing, but, anti-grouping mechanics.

Hmm... saw your join date, oh, I can understand you now. If you want to insist something, don't use 2nd account to post troll.