View Full Version : Nerf Alchemist
Yamani
09-24-2019, 03:02 PM
Just getting the ball rolling!
Don't need actual data or anything, and include a link to a completely not in game possible video!
Since it'll be the new shiny toy and everyone's playing it, it'll need to be nerfed!
concavenator
09-24-2019, 03:05 PM
haha yeah if its any better than pally it need to be nerfed right now!
droid327
09-24-2019, 03:14 PM
haha yeah if its any better than pally it need to be nerfed right now!
Nerf pally too!
Getting in on the action before the KotC update
Ralmeth
09-24-2019, 03:16 PM
/Signed. Darned Alchemists are the reason why we have a seemingly unlimited supply of potions at the vendors! I say, release the Alchemists to the Hardcore server and then kill them all off!!! Then, and only then, will those pesky Adventurers have to work together, with Clerics healing, Wizards casting haste, etc, so the melees can get back to hacking and slashing without a care in the world! Get those Alchemists off of my lawn!!!
Karthunk
09-24-2019, 03:24 PM
They can chug potions 22.35% faster than the local bar's official dwarven drunk. Clearly they need to be put in working order.
Memnir
09-24-2019, 04:39 PM
Don't water down Alchemists any more! They're already been distilled down to the dregs of what the class was homebrewed to be!
It's pretty vial to be calling for even more acidic attacks on their base skills! I can agree with small changes Periodically... but not like this. NOT LIKE THIS!!!
SerPounce
09-24-2019, 04:44 PM
And suspend Tom Brady.
bracelet
09-24-2019, 04:45 PM
They made my paladin break boxes!
DaggomaticDwarf
09-24-2019, 04:59 PM
I can prove they are OP!
*Opens book about the Chewbacca defense*
I rest my case.
Dagg.
TitusOvid
09-24-2019, 05:55 PM
This thread is at least 2 years too early, folks. Save it for later.
Cheers,
Titus.
rabidfox
09-24-2019, 06:01 PM
Alchemist are the only class to have an enhancement to get +hit & +damage based off one's HP stat... Nerf them now!
Tlorrd
09-24-2019, 07:03 PM
Nerf double shooting flasks with each hand ... Let my melee tank take -95% damage ... Oh wait, I found where I can do that already.
DaggomaticDwarf
09-24-2019, 07:26 PM
What if someone splashes fighter and takes Kensei. I hope they do get confused and instead of drinking a pot for this:
Liquid Courage: After drinking a potion, you receive +50 Healing and Repair Amplification for 30 seconds.
They drink one the Big Bada Boom pots!
"You were killed by STUPIDITY"
Dagg.
Oliphant
09-24-2019, 07:38 PM
It's September 24, 2019 and here's where we're at with Alchemist:
A class, theoretically, with UNLIMITED dps potential, UNLIMITED potential run speed, UNLIMITED CC ability, potentially, INVULNERABLE to damage maybe, possibly better at healing than a cleric, and maybe a better trapper than the best Arti's. In what sane world would the devs allow this to happen?!?!?!?!!!??
Yamani
09-24-2019, 07:39 PM
What if someone splashes fighter and takes Kensei. I hope they do get confused and instead of drinking a pot for this:
Liquid Courage: After drinking a potion, you receive +50 Healing and Repair Amplification for 30 seconds.
They drink one the Big Bada Boom pots!
"You were killed by STUPIDITY"
Dagg.
Make an Intel check every time you go to drink a potion. If you roll a natural 1 you try to drink a negative potion with some adverse effect.
Obviously this needs to happen to balance Alchemist out.
DaggomaticDwarf
09-24-2019, 07:44 PM
Make an Intel check every time you go to drink a potion. If you roll a natural 1 you try to drink a negative potion with some adverse effect.
Obviously this needs to happen to balance Alchemist out.
To the poor sap that dumps Int. lol
Fnordian
09-24-2019, 07:47 PM
Nerfing Alchemists isn't the solution. It's simply a catalyst for the dispersion of entropy that insulates against the kinetic energy of the leveling effect. However, mass concentration on number density could provide an order of reaction via the phase transition for a new skeletal formula. After all, it's substance uncertainty that often results in zone melting.
HastyPudding
09-24-2019, 07:47 PM
Alchemists need to be able to make potions that mimic a mine/pork barrel. Ultimate troller.
reywas
09-24-2019, 08:10 PM
Clearly you haven't played Alchemists before.
I played them once on a half baked first life character and I couldn't instant kill anything, but the wizard could! And the tank was so much more survivable. The wolf druid did more damage. And the FvS could heal better. I should be able to do all of these things better than all of them.
byzantinebob
09-24-2019, 09:19 PM
I think it's time to talk about how OP caster Rangers are at end game.
Alcides
09-24-2019, 09:25 PM
The new class of Alchemist now has a maximum level of 1 and no enhancement trees. Good luck!
NemesisAlien
09-24-2019, 09:32 PM
https://media1.giphy.com/media/7Am7Ydb6CcjKg/source.gif
Indubitably
09-25-2019, 01:03 AM
I won't be happy unless...
The class has the equivalent of the Hand of Midas and can turn everything he touches into platnium with no saving roll.
Finish shroud without dying.
Throw pots for over 9000 damage.
Can heal like a cleric, damage like a sorc, instakill and CC like a wizard, and tank like a fighter using potions.
Oh, and is better at poisons than an assassin.
Only then will I buy your class.
Please give me at least 6 months of this or I'll complain I didn't get my monies worth and rage quit until the next tree/class.
CaptainPurge
09-25-2019, 01:37 AM
Delete Alchemists. I just played one and couldn't even create real gold. Is this WAI?
HuneyMunster
09-25-2019, 03:06 AM
Just because someone posted a video that they solo'd The Grotto on an Alchemist doesn't mean they need a nerf.
I think their Protection from Death spell needs a buff as outside of the Grotto it didn't seem to work like it should.
Oliphant
09-25-2019, 03:12 AM
People are saying Alchemist can't be OP yet, but I've yet to see a video of them doing poorly.
TitusOvid
09-25-2019, 03:25 AM
Nerfing Alchemists isn't the solution. It's simply a catalyst for the dispersion of entropy that insulates against the kinetic energy of the leveling effect. However, mass concentration on number density could provide an order of reaction via the phase transition for a new skeletal formula. After all, it's substance uncertainty that often results in zone melting.
lolz. awesome. I would like to see some math on this.
Cheers,
Titus
Fnordian
09-25-2019, 03:44 AM
lolz. awesome. I would like to see some math on this.
Cheers,
Titus
Thanks. :)
PI = endless flask of (lemon meringue + coconut cream) / infinite hungry mobs
draven1
09-25-2019, 04:20 AM
Don't nerf Alchemist, it's just "easy", not OP.
It is just "easy" to play, so it just let 1st lifer catch 114th lifer and give a chance to contribute, even that 1st lifer have no brain.
And that 114th lifer should also play that Alchemist, because that 114th lifer also don't need brain to play, and bring way more powercreep. All mobs in a room should be oneshotted on R10, that's what this game want us to play.
We need another class to play for no brainers.
Cantor
09-25-2019, 08:15 AM
Don't water down Alchemists any more! They're already been distilled down to the dregs of what the class was homebrewed to be!
It's pretty vial to be calling for even more acidic attacks on their base skills! I can agree with small changes Periodically... but not like this. NOT LIKE THIS!!!
I appreciate your pun filled post. Maybe you could have worked in precipitate after acid and base though...
C-Dog
09-25-2019, 08:31 AM
They can chug potions 22.35% faster than the local bar's official dwarven drunk. Clearly they need to be put in working order.
Exactly. Alchemist makes the drinking contest in Delirium a joke. Who ever heard of double-fisted potion drinking - seriously?
Fix the class, or fix the quest, or at least fix your dogs and cats. NOW!:mad:
LightBear
09-25-2019, 08:39 AM
Exactly. Alchemist makes the drinking contest in Delirium a joke. Who ever heard of double-fisted potion drinking - seriously?
Fix the class, or fix the quest, or at least fix your dogs and cats. NOW!:mad:
Must be the reason why Dwarf is excluded as a race for alchemist.
drwho1985
09-25-2019, 09:10 AM
Please please please let there be a tier 5 attack where they wind up like a baseball player and throw a flask over handed. OR like a bowler, mow em down like pins!
Memnir
09-25-2019, 10:47 AM
I appreciate your pun filled post. Maybe you could have worked in precipitate after acid and base though...I wanted to get more audience precipitation, and that was pretty solid.
scut207
09-25-2019, 10:56 AM
alcohol is the solution.
Arkat
09-25-2019, 10:59 AM
Nerf Alchemist
They will...after it's been out for a year and been available to players to get for free by getting some as-yet-undetermined level of favor or by some other means.
Arkat
09-25-2019, 11:00 AM
I wanted to get more audience precipitation, and that was pretty solid.
Arghhhhhh!
:D
GramercyRiff
09-25-2019, 11:52 AM
Delete Alchemists. I just played one and couldn't even create real gold. Is this WAI?
Definitely my favorite post on this site. Agreed of course.
Captain_Wizbang
09-25-2019, 12:04 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/4mEnEjwtV8TF6/giphy.gif
Theolin
09-25-2019, 01:09 PM
GO Monks ... GO warlocks ... oh wrong thread
AlmGhandi
09-25-2019, 03:38 PM
I already solod an Alchemist to cap, completed Legendary Shroud.
This class needs to be nerfed.
The Wisconsinite feat is overperforming. Other players being able to double fist beer mugs while still finding a way to consume cheese and kick a football ruins my fun.
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