Instead of starting over and over and over

[Coffey]

Maybe a 50% (or whatever) Reaper Exp penalty instead?

[cru121]

Someone suggested losing 1 reaper point

[Paisheng]

Maybe a 50% (or whatever) Reaper Exp penalty instead?
I'm fine with this; but they would have to rename the server to Soft-core.

[Hazelnut]

I'm fine with this; but they would have to rename the server to Soft-core.

I'm not fine with it. The point to the server is to bring back the challenge by giving consequences for character death. There are LOTS of other servers with little consequence to character death. Please, join me on those servers.

But, if they do change it, I agree with you. The name has to change.

[Coffey]

Maybe i should reiterate with Death Penalty 50% Loss of yout Total Aquired Reaper Experience. That is a heavy penalty.

[FuzzyDuck81]

You can get the veteran start once you've had 50 deaths. Just use /death count to see how far along you are.

[Zergharder]

Warning, my perspective!

If there is a next time i would not mind a less severe death consequence but for the remainder of this season they need to keep death permanent.

My play time is heavily restricted so i can rarely commit to groups. I've made it to level 8 on a gimp ek summoner doing a mix of reaper, elite, and hard. I have yet to join a group because of the death announcements. Ok, whats your goal, because theres no way anyone was near their ultimate goal at level 6 and if they were then reroll. In other words when it looks like most people are playing very much like they're on a regular server its time for me to solo. It seams like the average level of death is getting higher too. Its getting worse before its going to get better. The first fifty times someone died at level two it was funny but it gets old. Most of these dying people could have a tarrasque hireling and still complain.

I bet the last few weeks you will not see the death announcements like you do now. All thsoe people will have moved on. Its fine for everyone to play the way the want to. This hardcore season is a huge succes.

Outside of terrible lag or a true bug i don't feel sorry for anyone dying at any level.

Baseball is not a timed game. This event is. If they gave everyone 3 lives the server would be like wayfinder allready and ssg wouldn't make as much money, so theres got to be a balance.

Its fine the way it is. And again thank you devs.

[TheOnly_LightInDark]

For me I like the fact that it is PermDeath, makes it a challenge and gets the heart pumping and hence more exciting.

Losing XP is really the soft option I wouldnt play on that server and would just stay pumping my main on normal servers.

[Arkat]

If you can't hack Hardcore, you probably shouldn't be doing it.

Deal with it or do something else.

It's pretty simple.

[Memnir]

If you want to suck the fun out of and defang the whole concept, than sure.

[SerPounce]

A grind setback wouldn't be the same thrill as permadeath. The issue is more having to go back and run all the same lowbie quests again than having to start your character at 1. It's a fun event, but overall DDO just isn't well suited to permadeath with it's static dungeons. The best permadeath games have random dungeons so you aren't doing the exact same thing every time you start over.

If there was going to be some wiggle room (in a future iteration) I'd rather have it be keeping some of your favor accomplishments between lives so you don't have to do Misery's peak and kobold assault every time.

[Graskitch]

If there was going to be some wiggle room (in a future iteration) I'd rather have it be keeping some of your favor accomplishments between lives so you don't have to do Misery's peak and kobold assault every time.



I was in a group with dnarth and saridreza and they said it would have been cool if they had introduced the hardcore league at the same time that they had put out the Keep on the Borderlands new starter area and low level quests, so that there could be some diversity if they were made to be dead over and over again.

It would have been a cool, but it probably would have detracted from the experience on the mainstream servers.

overall, this hardcore league is fantastic - I hope they make this an annual event or else introduce a permanent permadeath server.

[kned225]

Suck it up. Its hardcore.

I don't think global announcements about ppl taking a hit to their reaper xp will create quite the same buzz

If you want watered-down fun make up your own lame death penalty on a normal server

[Darkale]

Just a suggestion...

Allow ressing with penalty, but only by another player who was in your party at the start of the adventure

[Deathdefy]

I honestly prefer the terror of losing 30+ hours progress.

Sid Meier's quote about (good) games is "a game is a series of interesting decisions" and I have been making so many more of those on the Hardcore server.

'Do Shadow Crypt in a pug below level with a complete stranger because I want to upgrade my Silver Flame Nugget to make the beholder quests in Threnal safer to farm a Ratcatcher, and flagging for it myself is risky due to the traps in the North corridor of the torch lighting Shadow tomb?'

'Farm Xoriat Cypher for Planar Girds even though Cyclonic Blast from champ hounds is one of a few realistic chances to get one shot / knocked down and finished off?'

'Farm Pies quest for Ring of Nightfall even though the windmill could be horrific with unlucky triple champ hags?'

Those interesting decisions are removed if I'm not going to be stripped of my worldly possessions and sent to hell if I die.

[SerPounce]

I was in a group with dnarth and saridreza and they said it would have been cool if they had introduced the hardcore league at the same time that they had put out the Keep on the Borderlands new starter area and low level quests, so that there could be some diversity if they were made to be dead over and over again.

It would have been a cool, but it probably would have detracted from the experience on the mainstream servers.

overall, this hardcore league is fantastic - I hope they make this an annual event or else introduce a permanent permadeath server.

The problem is that the favor rewards in HCL would mean that you would kind of have to run Korthos AND Borderlands to maximize favor.

[awar1234]

Maybe a 50% (or whatever) Reaper Exp penalty instead?

DONT DIE.

Problem solved

[awar1234]

Someone suggested losing 1 reaper point

Don’t die
Problem solved

[awar1234]

Maybe i should reiterate with Death Penalty 50% Loss of yout Total Aquired Reaper Experience. That is a heavy penalty.

Don’t die.

Problem solved

[awar1234]

Just a suggestion...

Allow ressing with penalty, but only by another player who was in your party at the start of the adventure

Don’t die.

Problem solved

[hp1055cm]

Don’t die.

Problem solved

I think I see a pattern here...

So what you are saying is that if you "don't die" then... you don't need to worry about the consequences of death?

BRILLIANT!

[fatherpirate]

This is a competitive event.
It is permadeath
If you don't like permadeath contests there are a number of other servers for you to use.
Thank you

[Coffey]

Ive changed my playstyle and am going through on Elite instead of R1s. Another thing im doing is reviewing the quest info for traps and enemies i may encounter.

Sorry for being a downer. I was just trying to hard to get both reaper exp and favor early on.

Good luck to everyone and enjoy :)

[J-mann]

Ive changed my playstyle and am going through on Elite instead of R1s. Another thing im doing is reviewing the quest info for traps and enemies i may encounter.

Sorry for being a downer. I was just trying to hard to get both reaper exp and favor early on.

Good luck to everyone and enjoy :)

Yup. After getting one/two shot by reapers 3 times I learned, no rxp at low levels, especially after the devs went nuts on low level reapers hp totals. Lost my first toon at 5 due to a plauge reaper spawning on top of me, 2 shot, another due to a famine reaper procing double lightning bolt for a one shot.

[Hexflamez]

My build
Dwarf-Dwarven Axe SWF with Orb
Rogue 1
Warlock 2
Barbarian 3
Warlock 4-7 (total of 5 lvls)
Rogue 8 (total of 2 levels)
Barbarian 9-20 (Total of 13 levels)

Highest con i can get starting with 16 & 6 cha, using CON for weapon damage, hp, fort saves, Shine through, Blood Tribute. With added LOCK damage to weapon attacks & some hirelings