Overlevels to look out for.

[Cantor]

EDIT for season 2: afaik all wilderness issues are fixed. The only big "gotcha" left is challenges. For example a challenge that is 4-15 is max level 8 to enter. It is determined by base +4, not by max +2.

Semi "gotcha" is crazy ordering in threnal, but if you are watching the quest list this one will hit you before leveling.

obsoleted OP:
I've noticed a few issues running max overlevel for favor. Please add morre if you know them.

Catacombs, quests are 3, talk to dryden is 2.
Delera's, quests are 5,7,7,8, turn in is 6.

[C-Dog]

Catacombs, quests are 3, talk to dryden is 2.
Those give neither favor nor XP.


Delera's, quests are 5,7,7,8, turn in is 6.
Not sure which one you mean by "turn in" - if the thing where you talk to the NPC to flag for the last (lvl 8) quest, that's a known hiccup.

[Xgya]

Those give neither favor nor XP.

Not sure which one you mean by "turn in" - if the thing where you talk to the NPC to flag for the last (lvl 8) quest, that's a known hiccup.

It's still meaningful if they're playing on Hardcore. You could be low level enough to enter every quest in the Catacombs, yet somehow not be able to receive the quests from Dryden because of this lock.
Same for the final part of Delera's.

[Xyfiel]

Had to redbox catacombs because I took 7 after the first one. You can't enter to advance the quest but can do them.

All explorers are base level +4. Went to do Scoundrels run at 10 and couldn't get in anymore. Same thing will happen if you try to +4 levels in say RL 3rd chain.

[C-Dog]

It's still meaningful if they're playing on Hardcore.
Ah, yeah, I had suggested a separate HCL subforum to (try to) avoid this sort of thing.

Carry on, then, nm, GL all!
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[Deathdefy]

STK just tripped me up. Need to be max level 7 to enter the Explorer; I was blocked from both part 2 and part 3!

[Silverleafeon]

Quest for Dragonmark is level 1 = max level 5

Challenge for bribing bridge from korthos max level 4

[Vorachtin]

I've noticed a few issues running max overlevel for favor. Please add morre if you know them.

Catacombs, quests are 3, talk to dryden is 2.
Delera's, quests are 5,7,7,8, turn in is 6.

steam tunnels are level 3, if you take 8 to do the level 4 stk pt 2 you cant get in.

[AbyssalMage]

I really hope the developers are taking notes.

And I really hope there is a Season 2 with different cosmetic rewards and fixes to these problems.

[GeoffWatson]

Black Anvil Forest is level 1, so you can't do Made to Order or A Relic of a Sovereign Past at higher than 5th level.

[Mindos]

Quest for Dragonmark is level 1 = max level 5

Challenge for bribing bridge from korthos max level 4

I thought the bribe was level 5?

[Bunker]

Just run these quests like you normally would. 2 levels over max. Problem solved.


Black Anvil Forest is level 1, so you can't do Made to Order or A Relic of a Sovereign Past at higher than 5th level.

Now if this is true. That one needs to be fixed. But if the explorer or part of the quest chain is within 2 levels, just dont run way over level. Come on people. Harecire server.

[Cernunan]

Black Anvil Forest is level 1, so you can't do Made to Order or A Relic of a Sovereign Past at higher than 5th level.

That is absolutely absurd. Since it is week one they need to change this NOW

[Cernunan]

Just run these quests like you normally would. 2 levels over max. Problem solved.

That is how people are missing part 3 and 4 of STK. You do the first two at 5-7, but return to do parts 3 and 4 at level appropriate, but since steam works is 3, you no longer can enter the steam works .
If you wait to do Necromancer in Delara's til lvl app, you can't enter the quest granter instance in Return to Delara which is 6.

There are ton of these old traps in the old content. It is almost like the devs didn't put any work in preparing for this, or anything. I literally said it would be a mistake to prevent entering over level before this began

[Bunker]

That is how people are missing part 3 and 4 of STK. You do the first two at 5-7, but return to do parts 3 and 4 at level appropriate, but since steam works is 3, you no longer can enter the steam works .
If you wait to do Necromancer in Delara's til lvl app, you can't enter the quest granter instance in Return to Delara which is 6.

There are ton of these old traps in the old content. It is almost like the devs didn't put any work in preparing for this, or anything. I literally said it would be a mistake to prevent entering over level before this began

Maybe the devs thought players would run the quest chains as normal, at level. Problem solved. Either way, I agree some of the explorers probably need to be changed, but overall, if playing on the HC server, players should start playing a little more HC.

[Aelonwy]

Maybe the devs thought players would run the quest chains as normal, at level. Problem solved. Either way, I agree some of the explorers probably need to be changed, but overall, if playing on the HC server, players should start playing a little more HC.

Take this with a grain of salt because I'm not playing hardcore just observing my hubby play. He just wants the Bloody Footprints so he's trying for the 5k favor mark. Early on he was under level doing things on elite, eventually he was at level doing quests elite, then he had to start holding his level. EVERYONE is first life. First life doing elite has more than enough XP when they have access to ALL content. For some people its difficult to not level when you are able and even more so the longer you hold the levels. Its an unfortunate surprise to stay within 2 levels of the quest on elite and then not be ale to enter the zone the quest is in. And many are unaware of the level lock-out affecting wilderness zones and some quest-gating such as Black Anvil Forest and its going to come as a nasty Gotcha when they go to run those quests in an effort to get as much favor as possible. So thank you to OP and anyone else keeping track of these Gotchas, I'll keep hubby informed.

[Lynnabel]

Just checking in - we are looking into making this process less confusing and reworking how the lockout interacts with Wilderness Areas. Ideally, nothing is a nasty surprise :)

[The_Human_Cypher]

It's still meaningful if they're playing on Hardcore. You could be low level enough to enter every quest in the Catacombs, yet somehow not be able to receive the quests from Dryden because of this lock.
Same for the final part of Delera's.

This is exactly what happened to me with the Catacombs chain. I ran the entire chain at Level 7, but couldn't collect any of the end rewards as the brief intro to Bishop Dryden to continue the chain is Level 2 while all of the quests are Level 3. I was able to get the favor and XP, but none of the rewards.

[The_Human_Cypher]

Tangleroot Gorge is another one. The base level of the wilderness area is 4, while the last two Splinterskull quests in the chain are base level 7. I can't even enter now at Level 9 to complete the two "The Last Move" quests.

[Memnir]

I didn't even think about out leveling the Dragonmark quest until I thought I might want to swap a feat and found out I was locked out. Wasn't my happiest moment...

[The_Human_Cypher]

I didn't even think about out leveling the Dragonmark quest until I thought I might want to swap a feat and found out I was locked out. Wasn't my happiest moment...

This happened to me as well.

[Memnir]

This happened to me as well.It's one of my first stops now... get done with Jeets & Crew's Grotto quest, Bottle of Mist to House J, run Dragonmark quest, maybe the non-pawn weapon shop in House D, then back to Sunny Korthos. :)

[cdbd3rd]

I didn't even think about out leveling the Dragonmark quest until I thought I might want to swap a feat and found out I was locked out. Wasn't my happiest moment...

I had skimmed the HC announcement, but missed the whole lock-out deal until seeing this thread. I left a some XPs behind me that I would've sponged up before out-leveling it if I'd been paying better attention.

I'll know for next time if/when I have to start over. Still on my first char. *knocks wood*

[Silverleafeon]

Just checking in - we are looking into making this process less confusing and reworking how the lockout interacts with Wilderness Areas. Ideally, nothing is a nasty surprise :)

Thanks.

Technically, the lock out is to avoid easy favor farming, and wilderness to my knowledge (correct me if I am wrong) have no favor therein.
So, maybe just remove the wilderness lock out completely?

[The_Human_Cypher]

Thanks.

Technically, the lock out is to avoid easy favor farming, and wilderness to my knowledge (correct me if I am wrong) have no favor therein.
So, maybe just remove the wilderness lock out completely?

That would be the easiest way to correct this issue.

[nekroxeno]

I went thru the list of artificially capped quests "Hardcore cap or HC" listed on this thread. Those combined with the wilderness levels from the wiki made this list of the HC's. Understanding that most of these are wilderness caps, I simply put down the HC for the wilderness unless it was a single quest. I also don't know Sharn and am unsure if it is effected.

Wilderness/ HC Lvl:
Black Anvil*: 5
Korthos: 5
Cerulean: 6
Waterworks: 7
STK: 7
Tangleroot: 8
Three-Barrel: 9
Sorrowdusk: 11
Threnal: 12 (Estimated level)
Barovia: 14
Sands: 15
Gianthold: 17
*Black Anvil is entrance to Made to Order and A Relic of a Sovereign Past.

Single Quests or Others/ HC Lvl:
Dragonmark: 5 (just FYI)
Catacombs: 6
Delera's End Reward: 10
Bargin of Blood: 10
Titan Awakes: 14
Tower of Dispair: 23
Underdark Portal Unlock: 25

[TylerOfOrien]

Take this with a grain of salt because I'm not playing hardcore just observing my hubby play. He just wants the Bloody Footprints so he's trying for the 5k favor mark. Early on he was under level doing things on elite, eventually he was at level doing quests elite, then he had to start holding his level. EVERYONE is first life. First life doing elite has more than enough XP when they have access to ALL content. For some people its difficult to not level when you are able and even more so the longer you hold the levels. Its an unfortunate surprise to stay within 2 levels of the quest on elite and then not be ale to enter the zone the quest is in. And many are unaware of the level lock-out affecting wilderness zones and some quest-gating such as Black Anvil Forest and its going to come as a nasty Gotcha when they go to run those quests in an effort to get as much favor as possible. So thank you to OP and anyone else keeping track of these Gotchas, I'll keep hubby informed.

Bloody foot prints is one of the apex rewards. Its not supposed to be easy. And if level 20s could run lvl 2s and carry everyone for favor runs, it would definetly break the whole point of this server. I agree with the level restrictions, though as said slayer areas could probably be increased to +6 levels to pad quest restrictions a bit with out creating a situation where a lvl 20 can go in and kill 1499 enemies and then you renter solo to get the 1500 slayer reward.

[Mindos]

is this definitive for season 2?

[fatherpirate]

It would be nice if anything that does not award the favor used on the leader boards should really have no cap.
It might not give XP if you too high level but at least it will not bork a quest chain

again, only the stuff that awards ZERO favor used for leader boards and awards.
but that is just my opinion

[MJtheKing]

I recall the Devs fixing this but I am having difficulty finding the post. So I tried some myself. Being level 9 I was able to enter Tangleroot, Cerulean, Waterworks, Black Anvil Mines and able to enter and complete the Hall of the Mark quest.

[slarden]

I was burned by challenges, you can only run up to 4 levels over the min level of the challenge.