Pleas help me with a build.

[Jaysun]

I have always done 18 rogue/2 rogue as a greatcross bow/repeater and love it minus I don't feel like I can ever survive enough and dont bring enough to the table outside of dps/traps. With inquisitive enchantment tree I feel like I can do well in ranged (like I enjoy) with any class now. I was hoping someone could assist me with a build that has the dps power of inquistive but can also do something else. The 3 classes I love the most are rogue/cleric/artificer. I am open to other classes but those are the ones I am most familiar with. Id love the idea of being able to heal my group well, do great dps, and get traps in the game. I am also open to something do near the damage of a 18rogue/2 art mech repeater but has way more suvivablity. I want to be able to survive in reaper +4 better and be useful to the group.

Thanks!

TLDR:
I would like my character to be able to get all traps, use crossbows as main source of dps (inquisitive) , and do one of these three: Heal well/CC well/be extremely survivable.

Right now as a 18 rogue/2 arti..I can dps well and get all traps. Thats it...everything is subpar. I want to be lower my dps (a little) but perform in one of the other three areas well.

I have 38 pastlives, +8 tome, 7 racial points ect ect.

[Xgya]

Why not just go full Arti?

That (eventually) adds Tact Det as very decent CC, buffs runearm damage to manageable levels and nets you all the arti healing spells.
You'll end up with slightly less total DPS than Rogue, mostly because of the lost sneak attack damage, but the net gain in utility should be well worth it. You'll also get a ton of bonus feats on the way there.


Multiclass options would include:
- Net Evasion by going Rogue or Monk 2. (Rogue for slight sneak attack, Monk for extra defensive feats)
- Net Defensive Stance by going Paladin or Fighter 3 (plan it out in advance. If you don't need the Fighter feats, the Paladin's extra saves, even with no extra commitment to cha and just relying on tomes, is already pretty neat)

Any option over GXB (with 18 rogue) will have you lose some DPS, there's no real way around that fact. What you CAN choose is what you get for that trade.

Flaws would be that getting int to damage requires keeping a spell up, which you can sometimes forget to cast, or spending more points in Harper, beyond int to hit and KTH.

[Jaysun]

Xgya,

Thanks for the advice but I don't have any interest in going full arti. When the pass happen I was pretty excited to give it a try but sadly it is extremely subpar at level 30. The dps is not a little less it is a LOT less. You could make a para build with repeaters but besides that its around 40% less damage and on bosses it's even worse. Great crossbow with Fury of the wild can cut a named down in a few hits. The healing while better then it use to be is very directional with the throwing and not 100% dependable. Converter is TERRIBLE. 3 minute cooldown is just stupid. In reaper fights people die all the time and having the buff disappear and having to wait up to 3 minutes to be able to heal them again is just a useless skill. Also Tactical Detonation requires 100% all in for caster sources to be effected in reaper, and even then its supbar compared to a bard/warlock/wizard/sorc. Going 2 of anything other then arti makes the spell instantly useless in reaper.

Sadly, I'd love pure arti to work but its great for heroics and really average for anything in the 30 game thats difficult. Just my opinion of course, some people maybe able to play the class better then me but I can only go off my experience.

[TitusOvid]

Hi Jaysun,
how about a fusilate build.
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/493152-The-Never-Ending-Fusilade

You could actually use cleric instead of fighter but you would lose some dps but gain some small buffs. it is doable.

[unbongwah]

Calling it now: Tilomere will tell you to play a WIS-based rogue 17 / cleric 3 with Inquisitive + Falconry for Sound Burst, Mass Frog, and maybe Burst of Glacial Wrath. :cool:

[Jaysun]

Hi Jaysun,
how about a fusilate build.
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/493152-The-Never-Ending-Fusilade

You could actually use cleric instead of fighter but you would lose some dps but gain some small buffs. it is doable.

What about a 15 cleric 4 rogue, 1 something else (arti for free feat?) Would get Holy Sword (War domain), level 7 spells for group cure serious mass, 4th tree of mech and would just put everything else into inquisitive? I lose Expert builder for sure but can heal and put out decent dps I think? Thoughts? Also would have better saves.

I am also very tempted by the fact that i can get expert with 18 rogue and still get the tier 5 in inquisitive even with the 2 levels of arti. I am thinking the dps of this ..would be amazing, and adds some survivablity while Diplo'd

[Jaysun]

Calling it now: Tilomere will tell you to play a WIS-based rogue 17 / cleric 3 with Inquisitive + Falconry for Sound Burst, Mass Frog, and maybe Burst of Glacial Wrath. :cool:

I will take any and every suggestion, something has to fit what I need:)

[Swimms]

You could check out this inquisitive build, it gets traps, pumps out tons of dps and has decent survivability.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/505941-8-Ranger-8-Rogue-4-Arti-Inquisitor-Heroic-TR-build

[TitusOvid]

A guildie is running smoothly low reaper solo and higher reaper in party with

INT build
14 cleric - luck domain (displacement and no fail on 1 on all saves)
4 arti (rune arm + fusilate)
2 rogue (evasion)

Enhancemets
Tier 5 Inquisitive (Fusilate)
Arti Tier 4 (Fusilate, too. Gives bonus to Inq Fusilate)
Tier 3 harper (Int AT+DA, Know the Angles)

Looks fun.