Legendary Green Steel Questions

[Marten]

I was on a break from the game when Legendary Shroud was all the rage. Now even with Google's help, I am still very confused.

I recently acquired enough ingredients to make 2 LGS accessories and cleans one as long as I hold off on making the Displacement clickies. What I would like to make (Boots and Goggles) would have a) triple unconscious range b) triple HPs. I would like, if possible, to have a set bonus to HPs. On the planner, I was able to create 2 items that were all Positive Material Opposition. What I don't know is if this will qualify for the set bonus I am looking for or how much of a bonus it would be if any.

Am I headed in the right direction? If not, what should I be making with those stats that would qualify for the HP% set, and how much would the set be worth with the two items?

I thank you in advance for you help.

[Cantor]

As I read it, you'll get the set for 3 opp slots if you do that, giving 12% not 18%. from wiki - "A dominant augment must be unique." I would change the positive to something else on the second item.

edit: looks like your choices on second item are negative for some immunity, or elemental for resist.

[asdfghhjkl]

You're reading the planner wrong. A triple-hp item will be Material/Escalation. It's not possible to equip a hp item and get the hp set bonus.

[theMarten]

Ok, the Unconsciousness Range item is triple Positive Opposition. Is that a mistake?

It was the HPs item that I misread, it is actually triple Positive Escalation. Looking at someone else's gear set, I see the following:

Item 1) Positive Opposition / Negative Opposition / Earth Opposition
Item 2) Fire Opposition / Positive Opposition / Positive Opposition

What set bonus does the above give?
Is it the way that this person has the items using different types of Opposition that makes it effective? Each tier on the above do not use the same type of Opposition, is this the technique I also need to use?

So, if my first items is triple Positive Opposition, I need to select one each of a different Opposition, or can it be triple same too, just can't be Positive?

If I am finally understanding this, my second item could be triple Fire Opposition (Thinking Fire Resists after seeing Sharn Raid Preview), or do I need to use a different Focus for each tier? Just pulling at random Focus Fire, Earth, Air?

Will the (either of the) above count as a 6 tier Opposition item set?

[Shadow_Jumper]

Ok, the Unconsciousness Range item is triple Positive Opposition. Is that a mistake?

It was the HPs item that I misread, it is actually triple Positive Escalation. Looking at someone else's gear set, I see the following:

Item 1) Positive Opposition / Negative Opposition / Earth Opposition
Item 2) Fire Opposition / Positive Opposition / Positive Opposition

What set bonus does the above give?


The two piece Opposition would give the Opposition set bonus. Due to having a fully equipped two piece set you would get the benefits of a 6 augment Opposition set, or +18% HP.

Opposition requires exclusivity, and you cannot have any augments from ethereal or dominion equipped if you want the Opposition set bonus.

[DrawingGuy]

Ok, the Unconsciousness Range item is triple Positive Opposition. Is that a mistake?

It was the HPs item that I misread, it is actually triple Positive Escalation. Looking at someone else's gear set, I see the following:

Item 1) Positive Opposition / Negative Opposition / Earth Opposition
Item 2) Fire Opposition / Positive Opposition / Positive Opposition

What set bonus does the above give?
Is it the way that this person has the items using different types of Opposition that makes it effective? Each tier on the above do not use the same type of Opposition, is this the technique I also need to use?

So, if my first items is triple Positive Opposition, I need to select one each of a different Opposition, or can it be triple same too, just can't be Positive?

If I am finally understanding this, my second item could be triple Fire Opposition (Thinking Fire Resists after seeing Sharn Raid Preview), or do I need to use a different Focus for each tier? Just pulling at random Focus Fire, Earth, Air?

Will the (either of the) above count as a 6 tier Opposition item set?

For the HP bonus, ALL augments of ALL your worn LGS must be Opposition. Any deviation will break the set bonus. This is a glitch, but as the devs already think the bonus is overly strong, one that will likely never be fixed.

Also for the stacking, the Opposition type must be unique - the tier does not matter. You have Air/Earth/Fire/Water/Negative/Positive in Ethereal and Material types for a total of 12 options. Having all 12 gives you a max possible of 30% HP (which would take 4 accessories). A triple Unconscious range would only count as 1 augment type as they would all be Positive Material Opposition types.

For max HP, my suggested two items would be:

1) PMO/FMO/NMO
-- +128 Unconsciousness Range, 16 healing every 10 seconds
-- +25 Fire Resistance (Insight)
-- +25 Negative Resistance (Enhancement), Deathblock

2) NEO/EMO/FEO
-- +13 Fortitude Save (Resistance) (or whatever save you don't have covered by gear. If saves are covered, go for a non electric/fire resist)
-- +25 Electric Resistance (Insight)
-- +2 Reflex Save (Quality)

Those items would net you the full 18%. You can repeat augment types to go for better augments (such as going for full unconscious range), just realize each will cost you 2% HP. So doing one triple PMO + one with all unique would give you 14% HP rather than 18%.

Hope that answers any questions you may have!

For choosing which augments you want:
Tier 1: https://ddowiki.com/page/Legendary_Green_Steel_items/Tier_1
Tier 2: https://ddowiki.com/page/Legendary_Green_Steel_items/Tier_2
Tier 3: https://ddowiki.com/page/Legendary_Green_Steel_items/Tier_3

[Marten]

Hope that answers any questions you may have!



It does. Thank you.

[vyvy3369]

Also for the stacking, the Opposition type must be unique - the tier does not matter. You have Air/Earth/Fire/Water/Negative/Positive in Ethereal and Material types for a total of 12 options. Having all 12 gives you a max possible of 30% HP (which would take 4 accessories). A triple Unconscious range would only count as 1 augment type as they would all be Positive Material Opposition types.
That may have been the case in the past, but it is not necessary to have unique opposition types currently. I have a POM/POM/POM bracer and FOM/FOM/FOM goggles that grant 18% HP when worn together. I double-checked the numbers and it is actually applying 18%, not 10% from having 4 non-unique opposition augments - turning off protector bond's 10% is a loss of 107 HP, removing one of the LGS items is a loss of 193 HP, 1.8x as many HP lost.

Edit: the above being said, a HP set is almost more frustrating than it's worth if you want to also use LGS clickies. If you swap in an LGS item in order to use a clicky, you lose HP even if the new item increases the set bonus. I gave up on using mine a while ago and haven't missed it.

[DrawingGuy]

That may have been the case in the past, but it is not necessary to have unique opposition types currently. I have a POM/POM/POM bracer and FOM/FOM/FOM goggles that grant 18% HP when worn together. I double-checked the numbers and it is actually applying 18%, not 10% from having 4 non-unique opposition augments - turning off protector bond's 10% is a loss of 107 HP, removing one of the LGS items is a loss of 193 HP, 1.8x as many HP lost.

Edit: the above being said, a HP set is almost more frustrating than it's worth if you want to also use LGS clickies. If you swap in an LGS item in order to use a clicky, you lose HP even if the new item increases the set bonus. I gave up on using mine a while ago and haven't missed it.

And I just tested and did NOT get stacking. Maybe because I made mine in the beginning?

[Ulfo]

A triple Unconscious range would only count as 1 augment type as they would all be Positive Material Opposition types.

Pure lie. 8)

My triple unconscious range augs clearly count as 3 different augments and give appropriate bonuses. Your other math's also incorrect, full ender set clearly give you max 36% bonus to HP, not 30%.

[Marten]

to any future readers...

I did make the triple Positive Op for 224 Unconsciousness Range, and the triple Fire Op for 92 fire resist and I did get the 18% HP bonus from the items.

I think the above shows why so many, like myself, get confused. I want to thank everyone for their input and help.

[DrawingGuy]

Pure lie. 8)

My triple unconscious range augs clearly count as 3 different augments and give appropriate bonuses. Your other math's also incorrect, full ender set clearly give you max 36% bonus to HP, not 30%.

My comment was based on my own gear not stacking and the wiki. Good to hear that changed at some point as tiers mattering makes that max of 12 a max of 36 types, though 8 slots means that is 24. A truly enterprising soul could have 54% bonus to HP. :p

If I decide to go back to LGS gear, I need to see if reslotting fixes it, or if I need to remake it. Don't really want to drop 1k TP to test something that wouldn't affect anyone making new gear.

[Marten]

If I decide to go back to LGS gear, I need to see if reslotting fixes it, or if I need to remake it. Don't really want to drop 1k TP to test something that wouldn't affect anyone making new gear.

You may have a chance to do some free testing if you have or are willing to install the Lamannia Client.


Hey, all!

Getting you all up to speed: Preview candidate build #2 has also failed approval. (Nailing down preview builds is always a pain). ...

At this point we've pushed into the territory where we're planning on doing a weekend preview. Our current plan, now that it's already Wednesday is to take it slow today and get everything in order to pull a new build overnight, verify it tomorrow, and aim for a Friday 5/2 - Monday 5/5 preview schedule.

I'll let you know if this plan changes!

[J1NG]

Did a thread over the set bonus a few months back with the correct details. Might want a gander at that, as it's more complete than say some parts of the wiki or any of the known crafters out there.

J1NG

[Marten]

Did a thread over the set bonus a few months back with the correct details. Might want a gander at that, as it's more complete than say some parts of the wiki or any of the known crafters out there.

J1NG

Could you edit your post with a link to that thread?

Thanks,

[J1NG]

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/498764-Req-Wiki-User-Legendary-Green-Steel-updates

Provides details for the set bonuses only.

J1NG