Reaper XP in heroics

[Nickodeamous]

Hi all,

I am just looking for a simple explanation of how reaper XP works in heroics. I TRd for the first time ever after 20 epic TRs, so I am trying to maximize reaper while I do the heroics. I read about over-leveling, but I am kinda fuzzy on that. If I am level 4, do I need to be in a level 4 (normal) level quest to get full XP on R1?

Any other tips? I have 23 reaper points all from epic levels, so I've been flying though heroics.

Thanks!
Nico

[QuantumFX]

If I am level 4, do I need to be in a level 4 (normal) level quest to get full XP on R1?

That is correct.

If you run "The Kobolds' New Ringleader" at level 2, you will get full reaper and heroic XP. If you run it at level 3, you will take a 20% penalty to the reaper XP, but still get full heroic XP. If you run it at level 4, you will take a 50% penalty to the reaper XP and still get 100% heroic XP.


Any other tips? I have 23 reaper points all from epic levels, so I've been flying though heroics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekeYAVfJ0PM

[Nickodeamous]

thank you so much! Ok, looks like I need to be running level 4 quests. I've been running level 2s in the harbor.

[MacRighteous]

Yes - base level of the quest is the quests level on normal - so to get full RXP on reaper your character needs to be the same level as the base level of the quest. So for a level 4 quest you need to be level 4 to not get penalized, even though the modified level of the quest will be level 6 on reaper (+1 level for hard and +1 level for Elite)

if you are character level 5 and you ran a base level 4 quest you get (even though the modified quest level is level 6) -20% RXP penalty.
If your character level is 6 and you ran a base level 4 quests you get (even though the modified quest level is level 6 - typical bravery bonus allowance) -50% RXP penalty
and so on:
https://ddowiki.com/page/Reaper

Running reaper (solo) in heroics is slow going - don't expect more than 4 or 5 points out of a 1 to 20 run - even at level I rarely have made more than 150/200 RXP per quest and many times it's much lower

[Nickodeamous]

Thanks. That makes sense to me. I am really just trying to maximize what I can while I am in heroics. I haven;t run heroics in years, so this is like a new game to me! haha.

have a nice day,
Nico

[Cantor]

Thanks. That makes sense to me. I am really just trying to maximize what I can while I am in heroics. I haven;t run heroics in years, so this is like a new game to me! haha.

have a nice day,
Nico

Blitz r1 as fast as you can. You will tr faster and get more rxp than messing around on 3+. Seriously I didn't believe it till I did it but it's faster rxp, unless you have a static group that does higher skulls at full run speed.

[Nickodeamous]

right now, waiting for guildies to flip back to 1 and then I can blitz 3+. for now, I am soloing 1 or 2, but I am also doing a base level 2 quest at level 4....so there's that. I need to adjust my quest leveling to see how I fare at R1.

[CSQ]

There's also a handy reaper experience calculator; don't remember who first made it but I maintain a copy located here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eSlQWESZbuQ-E4TRl0pS-N1XMsXk2ifPWlLosyVnewE/edit?usp=sharing. It will show you a handy estimation if you plug in the right values. You can also make a copy of the sheet if you want to play around with values and such beyond what I have listed, though as far as I'm aware it's accurate (let me know if there are any issues and I'll try to fix them).

[Pyed-Pyper]

There's also a handy reaper experience calculator; don't remember who first made it but I maintain a copy located here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eSlQWESZbuQ-E4TRl0pS-N1XMsXk2ifPWlLosyVnewE/edit?usp=sharing. It will show you a handy estimation if you plug in the right values. You can also make a copy of the sheet if you want to play around with values and such beyond what I have listed, though as far as I'm aware it's accurate (let me know if there are any issues and I'll try to fix them).

Two things I didn't see:

One, some over-level penalties are missing, IIRC. The 1-over penalty (20%?) would probably be useful, especially in light of the advice in this thread.

Two, quest length. The initial very-well-thought-out-and-not-at-all-simplistic RXP formula applied a one-size-fits-all formula for calculating RXP. Sometime after, they applied a not-at-all-hasty bandage changing the formula slightly based on a vague definition of quest length - short, long etc

[Nickodeamous]

Guys, this is all fantastic! glad I had the inclination to ask this question. I'm sure it will help others as well!

take care and see you around,
Nico

[CSQ]

Two things I didn't see:

One, some over-level penalties are missing, IIRC. The 1-over penalty (20%?) would probably be useful, especially in light of the advice in this thread.

Two, quest length. The initial very-well-thought-out-and-not-at-all-simplistic RXP formula applied a one-size-fits-all formula for calculating RXP. Sometime after, they applied a not-at-all-hasty bandage changing the formula slightly based on a vague definition of quest length - short, long etc

I gave the sheet a test and the over-level penalties did apply to the calculation properly- it's the topmost row of options, and I tested 1-6 and they all worked fine. As for quest length, I've tentatively added it as a multiplier on the very end. Not sure if that 100% accurately reflects gameplay experience payout, so let me know if it doesn't. I've also doubled the level 30+ experience points to reflect that reaper experience is doubled for base level 30+ quests (per the wiki).

Let me know if anything isn't working properly or if you're still not getting the over-level penalties to work properly. Whoever originally made the sheet was much better with formatting than I am, so if you poke behind the scenes forgive my spaghetti calculations.

[Pyed-Pyper]

I gave the sheet a test and the over-level penalties did apply to the calculation properly- it's the topmost row of options, and I tested 1-6 and they all worked fine. As for quest length, I've tentatively added it as a multiplier on the very end. Not sure if that 100% accurately reflects gameplay experience payout, so let me know if it doesn't. I've also doubled the level 30+ experience points to reflect that reaper experience is doubled for base level 30+ quests (per the wiki).

Let me know if anything isn't working properly or if you're still not getting the over-level penalties to work properly. Whoever originally made the sheet was much better with formatting than I am, so if you poke behind the scenes forgive my spaghetti calculations.

Thanks for the follow-up.

The previous post references the modifier table to the right, power level > state > dropdown menu has only four choices, maybe I'm misunderstanding how to use the chart. I think I confused power-level with over-level.

[CSQ]

Thanks for the follow-up.

The previous post references the modifier table to the right, power level > state > dropdown menu has only four choices, maybe I'm misunderstanding how to use the chart. I think I confused power-level with over-level.

Ah, that is the penalty for being of a significantly lower level than the highest party member. It's a separate penalty. (https://ddowiki.com/page/Experience for more details)