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Raven_eer
11-12-2018, 06:52 PM
Is there still a viable bow build? Don’t mind multi class.

LiveFast
11-12-2018, 10:41 PM
Is there still a viable bow build? Don’t mind multi class.

Elf 19monk/1wizard wisdom build. take the feat spell focus: enchantment and twist enchantment focus from magister for nice AA DC. Use fury of the wild for DPS. AA and falconry tree for wisdom to hit and damage.

AbyssalMage
11-13-2018, 08:41 AM
Elf (or Half-Elf) 14/6 Monk/Ranger
6 levels Ranger
Then 14 levels Monk
Level 18, make sure to take GMoF

I played it before Falconry and the build was already AP tight. 18 Dex (regardless if you go Elf), +Con, +Wis (I went Max Con, 14 Wis) rest into Intelligence and should have done 14/14/12 Con/Wis/Int (I think that was the split I used on the ER to see "what I could have had" by saving build points by not maxing Con and Dex. Anyways, I never focused it on Paralyzing Arrow simply because of the amount of immune NPC's in Epic/Legendary. I went straight DPS which it did fairly average at. It was actually quite survivable (more so than I was expecting) and did better damage than my Ranger thanks to 10k.

Play wise, I played it as a TWF until level ~15 before switching to Bow. And the power of the build doesn't become possible until 23+ which I felt very offended by. Overall, I did enjoy it once I got to 25+ and started gearing it with Ravenloft Gear. I disliked that the best bow in the game is a big finger at Monk Bow builds though with Anarchy attached to it.

C-Dog
11-13-2018, 02:35 PM
(Since you're reposting, so will I, just for general reference...)

Not much has changed, so all Monkchers listed should(?) be current:

o https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/470423?p=5759354&viewfull=1#post5759366

Kodwraith
12-06-2018, 04:07 PM
I also just ran a pre-Falcon life doing the 6/14 ranger/monk split as a DEX build. My experience was similar to AbyMage, a lot of fun and more viable than I would have thought. Note that you need a lot of Racial APs, so a build with more past lives wold be much much better since you need a bunch in Elf to unlock the tree.

As a WIS build, I'm not sure you have enough AP for everything. You would with DEX.

You need 41 in AA for the capstone
14 in elf to unlock AA.
I did 11 in DWS for SniperShot.
80 + (1 racial AP on my toon) - 66 => 15 AP to play with. You need 12 for WIS hit/dmg in falconer and you'll want +5% hps, so not a lot of room for error.


It also has the property that elf and AA trees all give DEX, so you can't boost WIS as high as you can DEX. Honestly Pure 20 monk elf might be a better choice for a WIS build. 14 + 41 for elf and AA, then everything else into falconer.

Feat wise, you'd be OK, you just couldn't take SF:Enchant since you can't cast spells.

Vish
12-08-2018, 08:19 PM
Tilo,
Just build it and run it,
And stop trying to sell us
Then you get to have a secret build that's op
And no one knows
;)

Tilomere
12-08-2018, 08:29 PM
Tilo,
Just build it and run it,
And stop trying to sell us
Then you get to have a secret build that's op
And no one knows
;)

I'm not looking for OP. I'm looking for elegant. I'm not ready to build it on live.

majorhavoc
12-13-2018, 10:22 AM
Is there still a viable bow build? Don’t mind multi class.


I have been Playing this version, very effective, but low levels suck!

New Build
18/2 Monk/Rogue
Lawful Neutral Elf




Level Order


1. Rogue . . . . . 6. Monk. . . . . .11. Monk. . . . . .16. Monk
2. Monk . . . . . .7. Monk . . . . . 12. Monk . . . . . 17. Monk
3. Monk . . . . . .8. Monk . . . . . 13. Monk . . . . . 18. Monk
4. Monk . . . . . .9. Monk . . . . . 14. Monk . . . . . 19. Monk
5. Monk . . . . . 10. Monk . . . . . 15. Monk . . . . . 20. Rogue




Stats
. . . . . . . .36pt . . Tome . . Level Up
. . . . . . . .---- . . ----. . .--------
Strength. . . . .8. . . .+8. . . .4: WIS
Dexterity . . . 14. . . .+8. . . .8: WIS
Constitution. . 14. . . .+8. . . 12: WIS
Intelligence. . 14. . . .+8. . . 16: WIS
Wisdom. . . . . 18. . . .+8. . . 20: WIS
Charisma. . . . .8. . . .+8. . . 24: WIS
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: WIS


Skills
. . . . . R .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .M .R
. . . . . 1 .2 .3 .4 .5 .6 .7 .8 .9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
Disable . 4 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1. 23
Search. . 4 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1. 23
Spot. . . 4 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1. 23
Concent . 2 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 . . 20
Heal. . . 2 . . . . . . . . ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. . .11
Spellcr . 2 .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ . . 11
UMD . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .6. 10
Open Lo . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4. .8
Listen. . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4
Jump. . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
. . . . .40 .7 .7 .7 .7 .7 .8 .8 .8 .8 .8 .8 .8 .8 .9 .9 .9 .9 .9 13




Feats


.1. . . . : Point Blank Shot
.2 Monk . : Dodge
.3. . . . : Completionist
.3 Monk . : Zen Archery
.6. . . . : Rapid Shot
.7 Monk . : Ten Thousand Stars
.9. . . . : Manyshot
12. . . . : Precise Shot
15. . . . : Improved Critical: Ranged
18. . . . : Improved Precise Shot
21 Epic . : Combat Archery
24 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
26 Destiny: Holy Strike
27 Epic . : Blinding Speed
28 Destiny: Doubleshot
29 Destiny: Mass Frog
30 Epic . : Burst of Glacial Wrath
30 Legend : Scion of: Feywild


.4 Monk . : Path of Harmonious Balance




Enhancements (80+12 AP)


Elf-Arcane Archer (42 AP)

Arcane Archer, Morphic Arrows, Metalline Arrows, Aligned Arrows, Shadow Arrows, Mystical Archer

Conjure Arrows, Energy of the Wild II, Corrosive Arrows
Force Arrows III, Elemental Damage
Terror Arrows, Elemental Damage, Wisdom
Banishing Arrows, Paralyzing Arrows, Smiting Arrows, Elemental Damage, Wisdom
Moonbow, Arrow of Slaying, Elemental Damage, Runebow



Falconry (28 AP)

Falcon, Wisdom, Well Rounded, Wisdom

Rugged III, Practiced Accuracy II, Out in Nature III
Killer Instinct I
Killer Instinct II, Conditioning, Eyes of the Eagle
Deadly Instinct III, No Mercy III



Elf (22 AP)

Elven Accuracy, Elven Dexterity, Elven Accuracy II, Elven Dexterity II, Elven Accuracy III

Aerenal Weapon Training
Aerenal Weapon Training, Arcanum I
Aerenal Weapon Training, Arcane Archer
Aerenal Weapon Training, Skill





Destiny (24 AP)


Shiradi Champion

Stay Frosty II, Wisdom
Pin II, Wisdom
Otto's Whistler II, Wisdom
Stay Good III, Wisdom
Nerve Venom III, Wisdom
Audience with the Queen


Twists of Fate (35 fate points)

Sense Weakness (Tier 4 Fury)
Critical Damage (Tier 3 Dreadnought)
School Specialist: Enchantment (Tier 2 Magister)
Dance of Flowers (Tier 1 Flowers)
Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)