What should I craft to help a new player cleric?

[BOgre]

So, a friend just came to DDO. Decided he wanted to play a cleric. Wouldna been my first choice, but be that as it may. I have a couple low level alts I'm running with him to teach him the ropes, and a basic battle cleric build to get him going. I do have a highish level crafter (lvl200) that I can use to make him some low level gear.

Any advice on a decent low level gear set I should make for him?

[Xgya]

I'd very much recommend boosting his Evocation DCs as high as you can muster.
Battle Clerics get little in the way of "quick" CC, and you NEED some to survive in melee.
Unless you're being babysat by another person that will CC, but want to feel helpless when they're not around, that is.

Why Evocation? Because Soundburst is just that: Quicken-able CC that works on most things.

Battle clerics aren't in a very good place right now, but that's a commonality between most hybrid builds.

It's also much easier to focus on a single school and use that than be a generalist for a new player. It also helps land those Flame Strikes for these moments when AoE becomes necessary, and make Blade Barrier deal its full damage when the time comes too. It eases spell choices too.

As far as weapons go, anything goes, really. He'll need a ghost touch weapon, or a ghostly item (I strongly recommend the ghostly item route for newbies, as switching equipment in combat can prove to be hectic)

A Wisdom and a Con item for levels 10 and 18. (wis of insightful wis - mine's a trinket with healing amp, but I don't necessarily recommend it - , con of insightful con). The levels are just to limit the number of essences spent.
If you're rich in purified dragonshards, you can also craft Strength boots with Seeker, and deadly of insightful deadly goggles of appropriate levels

[Kmnh]

At very low levels, nothing. Get him used to self-buffing using potions, scrolls, wands... That's the stuff that will keep him from running out of resources at low levels.A good weapon helps, but it's not required unless he needs to solo content.

Once he's high enough level to use Slave Lords stuff, get a full set of caster gear. Make sure you get the 5-piece bonus. those are usefull all the way to level 28.

At higher levels get insightful wisdom and insightful evocation, conjuration or spell mastery somewhere on his gear.


Battle-cleric strategy is all about crowd control. Soundburst, greater command and cometfall should be on his bar, along with cleave and great cleave.
Once he hits level 14 war domain turns clerics into reasonable melee characters - not as good as the main melee classes, but good enough that he won't need much help.

[BOgre]

-ghostly isn't craftable, and as far as i can see there aren't any low level items with ghostly
-crafting ghost touch unbound is level 400
-slave lords is a pack we'd both have to buy, and run, and farm, and craft.... maybe someday

i appreciate the responses, but... they're not realistically possible

[Hobgoblin]

-ghostly isn't craftable, and as far as i can see there aren't any low level items with ghostly
-crafting ghost touch unbound is level 400
-slave lords is a pack we'd both have to buy, and run, and farm, and craft.... maybe someday

i appreciate the responses, but... they're not realistically possible

i would go back to basics

get him stats - ie con str wis life prr/mrr

then get him a decent weapon - maybe farm up a sword of the thirty from tear

then work on spellpower - radiance for later on, devo on a ring

[BOgre]

i would go back to basics

get him stats - ie con str wis life prr/mrr

then get him a decent weapon - maybe farm up a sword of the thirty from tear

then work on spellpower - radiance for later on, devo on a ring

ah yes. good advice. done.
plus the wiki weapons by type page game some other good choices. thanks!

[LrdSlvrhnd]

I would encourage him to get his crafting level approaching 50. That's not too hard to do (especially if you can provide him a bunch of essences, and he does the crafting tutorial for the +75% pot), and it'll allow him to craft a whole lot of useful effects (including spellpower, spellpen, sheltering, weapon effects, etc.) and save you a whole bunch of purified eberron dragonshards. Too bad he missed the crafting XP weekend, he could've easily gotten close enough to 100 to do stats and spell lore.)

[BOgre]

essence drop rates seem uncommonly low, and collectibles are even worse. Just about every recipe i look at has one ingredient that i have only 1 or 2 of the 15 or 30 required. I've looked at the collectible farming thread, and... wow. For a newbie I'm not sure we're going to get much traction there. I'll certainly teach him how to do it, and get him to download Ellis's crafting tool (which is bloody AWESOME btw). So yeah, good idea, we'll see how well it works over the next couple of months :) Thanks.

[BOgre]

We're currently in Catacombs looking for his new Pillar of Light, and a random chest happened to have a Devo 38 medium armor in it. Soooo, that was cool!

[MasterKernel]

Feather Fall and Underwater Action. :-\
No, really. All you can craft for him are : Wizardry, Spell Focus & Spell Power. But, you can't craft Insightful with the crafting level of 200 ! That means, your friend would find something better among the random gen. loot.

[C-Dog]

So, a friend just came to DDO. Decided he wanted to play a cleric. Wouldna been my first choice, but be that as it may...

Any advice on a decent low level gear set I should make for him?
What you don't want to do (I'd think) is make some specialized Cleric gear that then becomes an embarrassment for everyone involved if he changes his mind. So something that he can use on a diff build if/when he decides that Cleric is not the way for him.


I tell everyone to craft themselves a ML 5 Ring, Underwater Action of Swim +7. Every alt should have one. Doable at CL 48 or so.

Make him a good ML 4 weapon - see this thread: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/482912-Weapon-Recipes-redux?p=5925371&viewfull=1#post5925371

Some of the more specialized gear he can farm himself as end-rewards - catacombs ring of devotion does not completely suck, iirc. http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Ring_of_the_Archbishop (ML 3 36 spellpower vs. crafted 47. meh.) Okay, maybe a Devotion/Healing Lore swappie. Useful for any build that can cast a CLW spell.

FF ring w/ something nice attached - maybe of Devotion, maybe of Sheltering. (Problem is that it won't scale, so eventually will be "too small to be much use" - but good 'nuff for now.)

But all should be "cheap", unless you're swimming in collectables. And farming stuff (and/or, teaching him how to craft) would be better in the long run.

[SirValentine]

I do have a highish level crafter (lvl200)


Is that a mistype for 400? If not, it'd probably be easier to get his crafting up than for you to craft stuff for him unbound.

I few things I crafted a while back were hats, you can do this either Intelligence or Wisdom:
ML 5, +4 Int/Wis, +2 Spell Focus Mastery
ML 13, +7 Int/Wis, +3 Spell Focus Mastery, +3 Int/Wis.
ML 23, +11 Int/Wis, +4 Spell Focus Mastery, +5 Int/Wis.

[LrdSlvrhnd]

essence drop rates seem uncommonly low, and collectibles are even worse. Just about every recipe i look at has one ingredient that i have only 1 or 2 of the 15 or 30 required. I've looked at the collectible farming thread, and... wow. For a newbie I'm not sure we're going to get much traction there. I'll certainly teach him how to do it, and get him to download Ellis's crafting tool (which is bloody AWESOME btw). So yeah, good idea, we'll see how well it works over the next couple of months :) Thanks.

Yeah, the way to level is purely with ML shards. And the way to get essences is almost purely deconning items instead of selling (fun fact: weapons, armor, and any accessories with a +X in the upper right will give plat *if* the dissolver is in your inventory or a bag - ie, not in the crafting bank). Basically your highbie will be deconning all his loot to level up his crafting.

As for collectibles for the crafting itself... well, it'll still be cheaper for you to give him stuff than for you to craft it unbound? lol

[QuantumFX]

I’m not sure crafting a bunch of stuff for him is the way to go. Stat potions keep up with gear until level 7. You could probably give him a heavy fort augment or 2. Ravenloft gear can carry you from level 10-20. Your knowledge of DDO is probably the biggest gift you can give him.

[xenon211]

As a first life, if you run mainly normal and hard you don't NEED gear to succeed. It helps to be certain, but random loot and checking the AH can easily cover your most essential things, namely: main stats, weapon, and wizardry. Normal is so easy you don't need set bonuses, PLs, crafted gears or anything else. Add in a stack of cure serious health pots, cure disease, remove curse, cure poison, remove blindness, and lesser restoration and he's basically set for questing.

As has already been mentioned, knowledge and some plat for consumables is the best thing you can give a new player.