Jar Of Mayonnaise (Gag Buckler/Orb Idea)

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

I recall hearing a certain someone ask whether or not Mayonnaise was an instrument, if somehow Mayonnaise is an instrument......... then surely a Bard would find it useful.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5jnftBQw2U


Okay, maybe Mayonnaise is an instrument?

I only have one suggestion for this....... grease guard..... a small chance to cast grease when hit in combat, from here I'd like to see the regular DDO forum goers create the rest of the details, then we shall put it to a vote!

This item is not to be too powerful, have fun........ and theory craft this item!

Also, should it be a Buckler or Orb?


Edit: since I somehow wasn't clear enough, this is a gag idea, not an idea but a gag idea that is intended to be something people can enjoy rather than something that I would ever hope to become a part of the game..... and certainly not something asking for people to come and get toxic about.

Inquiry over accusation..... the one tennant people can't seem to follow also the one tennant I expect them to follow... coincidentally also the one tennant that following would destroy all of the wrongful marginalization in the world while improving civility and understanding so the importance goes pretty far beyond simple forum usage.

If you don't understand something said, quote it and ask for a clarification or explanation, be civil........ and on posts like this you are supposed to be goofy, not a bunch of immature emotionally chaotic highschoolers who get off on starting conflict. If all you have to offer someone on a forum is conflict, ignore the posts they start but by all means feel free to reply to something when they post on a topic you start, if they are civil be civil back.

At any rate, I think i'm just going to save this post's content to a flash drive and repost it in about eight months, maybe that will give people enough time to grow up.

Humor is self-medication for many and if someone attends a forum post with humor in it and that brand of humor appeals to them, the last thing they need to see is nothing but toxic posts and chastising responses.

Maybe I should just report people rather than chastise them, but the devs have more important things to handle and the pragmatism either way is debatable, where as I will always try and act in the way I consider pragmatic in terms of dealing with conflict.

[simo0208]

Just. Stop. Seriously.

Seriously.

Stop.

This is an intervention.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

Just. Stop. Seriously.

Seriously.

Stop.

This is an intervention.

Sorry, DDO needs this to pair with Broccoli bashers XD

[Memnir]

No.

[Uska]

Game is a bad enough joke already

[Noir]

Ahhh No. And I also echo the sentiment of most of the respondents in this thread.
Please Stop!

[glmfw1]

No

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

No need to get angry when people don’t find funny what you do and as to this I think only you find it funny

Dude, I don't get angry, just a little disappointed and surprised, please don't project..... I regard anger as to being no different than a temper tantrum.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

Game is a bad enough joke already

Even if people joke about this item it will never come into being, it would be in good emotional hygiene to respond to humor with humor.... especially with how everything else in the world currently is of late. Frankly even I don't want this item to come to DDO, I just want to imagine it to derive from such.

[Algreg]

Dude, I don't get angry, just a little disappointed and surprised, please don't project..... I regard anger as to being no different than a temper tantrum.

is that more psychology expertise you googled?

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

You used up your forum goodwil and "it's just for giggles" about 4 vampiric effect plus Eldritch Knight, Blackguard posts ago.

I honestly wonder if FlimsyFirewood was talking directly to you about stopping with the forum spam.

The Devs are pretty classy, so you will not get a "Hey Lokeal_the_Flame, knock it off, we have a job to do and sorting through your garbage isn't one of them" type reply from them.

This is the community trying to nicely tell you, "please man, back off a bit"

Next time you want to start a thread, think, "Does this thread seem exactly like the 15 other threads I made?" If so, do not make it.

You seem like an out of work Emo singer who is trying to sound deep too btw.

Every single time someone calls you out for just generally junking up the threads, you reply with a "I am just so deep and you will never understand" type response.

The funny thing is, most people playing this game are generally older people or the kids of people who have been playing a long time.

I you want to make your Vampire Wizard Paladin Blackguard, go play Neverwinter Nights. It has been remastered on Steam and is very stable on Windows 7 on up.

Your humor is just tiresome and you have literally just crossed the line too many times.

I will probably get an infraction for this post, but if it gets this stupid thing locked, it will be worth it.

The description did not fit my posts...... there is nothing clickbaity about speculative creations of items for the sole purpose of speculation and quite frankly there should be a forum for item and enhancement tree speculation as well as one for DDO humor. I never speak as if I am "Too deep", I do however point out when people are assuming the nature of my posts/statements in which is at the very least 70% of the animosity received and so the question comes down to whether or not I'd be interested in promoting the general lack of emotional hygiene and inquiry in which let's face it such are very significant problems in any community.... quite frankly I am too principled to promote such by giving in to it and kindly ask that you grow up and if a post bothers you, ignore it..... or maybe go watch some news online so that you know what all is worth allowing yourself to be bothered by, have some priorities and perhaps try not getting your jollies off by spreading negativity as you embolden others to do the same just as certain political figures with certain traits getting to a position of power tends to embolden others with said traits after it emboldens themselves and then such tends to bounce back and forth and escalate until something precious is far too lost for any hope. Your animosity is not my responsibility, nor should it be.... in fact such animosity is simply a lack of initiative taken in terms of your own personal responsibility for that of emotional hygiene. If you see a problem with me, then push for a DDO humor forum (Only this post and one other I've made would be placed there that I can recall of) and a DDO Item And Enhancement Tree Speculation forum, and then simply never visit said forums as let's face it such would be the place where the majority of my posts would go. Understanding the motivations of someone you deem to be a problem is sometimes as simple as asking them on such all the while understanding that what you assume isn't fact by virtue of assumption, through their answer this is where you derive a solution from. Trying to derive a solution from an assumption is as idiotic as trying to disarm a bomb without any training to help you understand which wire to cut. Face it, if you boil down the basics of what you advised me you get the notion of "Animosity based on popular opinion deserves to thrive and needs to be obeyed" in which if such did purely thrive and such was never disobeyed, the world would be a far worse place than it is now, where as if you boil down my stance on it you get a message of personal responsibility, promotion for inherently harmless means of self-expression, emotional hygiene, civility and a message of on the importance of inquiry in which would make the world a much better place.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

is that more psychology expertise you googled?

No, it's my own observation from when I lost the capacity for anger, it was the same time I stopped throwing temper tantrums.

With a temper tantrum, it is unprincipled in the actions of expression and the inevitable consequences concerning such, when you see a child throwing a temper tantrum they wreck things seemingly for the sole purpose of wrecking things, where as sometimes with what people call anger and refuse to call a temper tantrum has them still wrecking things but the things they wreck are a matter of the organizational prowess of their own minds and seemingly once again for the sole purpose of wrecking things. You can be emphatic without the motive being one of anger, you can intimidate without the use of anger, you can be motivated without anger being at the center of such. Any value someone can proclaim anger to have is simply easy to refute and it is unfair when someone dehumanizes someone without anger for not having such, especially when that clear head is key in trying to sort out an effective solution for a problem suffered by multiple people at any given time. When someone gets angry, the thing that sparks said anger boils down to the world not revolving around them and their beliefs and lack of acceptance to such along side the lack of acceptance that one can not control others..... hence such is clearly a matter of emotional immaturity. Sadly, sometimes when someone says something while speaking with anger, they are more believable as in the eyes of some, anger=passion and passion towards truth is to be expected and tends to lead to glorification and favoritism when perceived.... but perception is only perception and perception of truth is vastly due to someone preferring to believe in one truth claim over another, but the folly of that preference would be destroyed if only we could first destroy first the tendency for habitual assumption making in which I'd argue is everyone's responsibility.

[simo0208]

The description did not fit my posts...... there is nothing clickbaity about speculative creations of items for the sole purpose of speculation and quite frankly there should be a forum for item and enhancement tree speculation as well as one for DDO humor. I never speak as if I am "Too deep", I do however point out when people are assuming the nature of my posts/statements in which is at the very least 70% of the animosity received and so the question comes down to whether or not I'd be interested in promoting the general lack of emotional hygiene and inquiry in which let's face it such are very significant problems in any community.... quite frankly I am too principled to promote such by giving in to it and kindly ask that you grow up and if a post bothers you, ignore it..... or maybe go watch some news online so that you know what all is worth allowing yourself to be bothered by, have some priorities and perhaps try not getting your jollies off by spreading negativity as you embolden others to do the same just as certain political figures with certain traits getting to a position of power tends to embolden others with said traits after it emboldens themselves and then such tends to bounce back and forth and escalate until something precious is far too lost for any hope. Your animosity is not my responsibility, nor should it be.... in fact such animosity is simply a lack of initiative taken in terms of your own personal responsibility for that of emotional hygiene. If you see a problem with me, then push for a DDO humor forum (Only this post and one other I've made would be placed there that I can recall of) and a DDO Item And Enhancement Tree Speculation forum, and then simply never visit said forums as let's face it such would be the place where the majority of my posts would go. Understanding the motivations of someone you deem to be a problem is sometimes as simple as asking them on such all the while understanding that what you assume isn't fact by virtue of assumption, through their answer this is where you derive a solution from. Trying to derive a solution from an assumption is as idiotic as trying to disarm a bomb without any training to help you understand which wire to cut. Face it, if you boil down the basics of what you advised me you get the notion of "Animosity based on popular opinion deserves to thrive and needs to be obeyed" in which if such did purely thrive and such was never disobeyed, the world would be a far worse place than it is now, where as if you boil down my stance on it you get a message of personal responsibility, promotion for inherently harmless means of self-expression, emotional hygiene, civility and a message of on the importance of inquiry in which would make the world a much better place.

Get over yourself. Seriously. You are as bad as nobodyfool. You’re not half as funny as you think you are nor even a quarter as smart. There’s not a single positive statement about your idea here or your ideas on any of the other posts you have literally littered the forums with. Despite telling you exactly where these posts belong (in the ideas forum), you choose to break the rules and continue to litter them here and then claim victim when people tell you to stop while ignoring the actual reality.

Post your great vampiricism, but only legacy vampiricism of course, ideas on that forum and leave this forum for actual topics devoted to general discussion. Thanks.

[simo0208]

The description did not fit my posts...... there is nothing clickbaity about speculative creations of items for the sole purpose of speculation and quite frankly there should be a forum for item and enhancement tree speculation as well as one for DDO humor. I never speak as if I am "Too deep", I do however point out when people are assuming the nature of my posts/statements in which is at the very least 70% of the animosity received and so the question comes down to whether or not I'd be interested in promoting the general lack of emotional hygiene and inquiry in which let's face it such are very significant problems in any community.... quite frankly I am too principled to promote such by giving in to it and kindly ask that you grow up and if a post bothers you, ignore it..... or maybe go watch some news online so that you know what all is worth allowing yourself to be bothered by, have some priorities and perhaps try not getting your jollies off by spreading negativity as you embolden others to do the same just as certain political figures with certain traits getting to a position of power tends to embolden others with said traits after it emboldens themselves and then such tends to bounce back and forth and escalate until something precious is far too lost for any hope. Your animosity is not my responsibility, nor should it be.... in fact such animosity is simply a lack of initiative taken in terms of your own personal responsibility for that of emotional hygiene. If you see a problem with me, then push for a DDO humor forum (Only this post and one other I've made would be placed there that I can recall of) and a DDO Item And Enhancement Tree Speculation forum, and then simply never visit said forums as let's face it such would be the place where the majority of my posts would go. Understanding the motivations of someone you deem to be a problem is sometimes as simple as asking them on such all the while understanding that what you assume isn't fact by virtue of assumption, through their answer this is where you derive a solution from. Trying to derive a solution from an assumption is as idiotic as trying to disarm a bomb without any training to help you understand which wire to cut. Face it, if you boil down the basics of what you advised me you get the notion of "Animosity based on popular opinion deserves to thrive and needs to be obeyed" in which if such did purely thrive and such was never disobeyed, the world would be a far worse place than it is now, where as if you boil down my stance on it you get a message of personal responsibility, promotion for inherently harmless means of self-expression, emotional hygiene, civility and a message of on the importance of inquiry in which would make the world a much better place.

And PS, I have a degree in Psychology from a top 5 university and have taught college Psychology for over 10 years. Your drivel of pop-psychology is just that, unresearched drivel that clearly shows how little you know and understand in regard to psychology. Stop doing a disservice to the profession.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

Get over yourself. Seriously. You are as bad as nobodyfool. Your not half as funny as you think you are nor even a quarter as smart. There’s not a single positive statement about your idea here or your ideas on any of the other posts you have literally littered the forums with. Despite telling you exactly where these posts belong (in the ideas forum), you choose to break the rules and continue to litter them here and them claim victim when people tell you to stop while ignoring the actual reality.

Post your great vampiricism, but only legacy vampiricism of course, ideas on that forum and leave this forum for actual topics devoted to general discussion. Thanks.

There are intelligent reactions to things one disagrees with and then there's the kind of reaction you are making in which does not lead to any change but instead only emphasizes your own animosity.... My sense of humor is rather facepalmy, but each person has their own sense of humor, accepting that is essential for your growth as an individual. No actually, this is general discussion as it is neither an idea that is fleshed out enough to conclude as an idea (Requires discussion to flesh out), nor is it an idea for any purpose I'd hope to make it into the actual game and the purpose of fleshing such out is for humor alone. If you want to litter the forums with negativity and failure to inquire on nature of the post, the fault is on you and others who follow suite...... your animosity is not my responsibility nor should it be, but your emotional hygiene is your responsibility.

[Algreg]

No, it's my own observation from when I lost the capacity for anger, it was the same time I stopped throwing temper tantrums.

With a temper tantrum, it is unprincipled in the actions of expression and the inevitable consequences concerning such, when you see a child throwing a temper tantrum they wreck things seemingly for the sole purpose of wrecking things, where as sometimes with what people call anger and refuse to call a temper tantrum has them still wrecking things but the things they wreck are a matter of the organizational prowess of their own minds and seemingly once again for the sole purpose of wrecking things. You can be emphatic without the motive being one of anger, you can intimidate without the use of anger, you can be motivated without anger being at the center of such. Any value someone can proclaim anger to have is simply easy to refute and it is unfair when someone dehumanizes someone without anger for not having such, especially when that clear head is key in trying to sort out an effective solution for a problem suffered by multiple people at any given time. When someone gets angry, the thing that sparks said anger boils down to the world not revolving around them and their beliefs and lack of acceptance to such along side the lack of acceptance that one can not control others..... hence such is clearly a matter of emotional immaturity. Sadly, sometimes when someone says something while speaking with anger, they are more believable as in the eyes of some, anger=passion and passion towards truth is to be expected and tends to lead to glorification and favoritism when perceived.... but perception is only perception and perception of truth is vastly due to someone preferring to believe in one truth claim over another, but the folly of that preference would be destroyed if only we could first destroy first the tendency for habitual assumption making in which I'd argue is everyone's responsibility.

- errrm, mainly I was refering to the concept of projection. How temper tantrums and anger are connected is no mystery to anyone really.

- "when I lost the capacity for anger": wow, you are so full of it, I am lacking words.

- no need to enlighten us with your "philosophy of assumption". Here is the kicker: Noone cares about your motivations. What People care for and what they call you out for are your actions - which are spamming the forums with related topics all day long.

- also, your attempt of owning a public space of discussion by excluding yourself from criticism by an over the top appeal to the greater good is pathetic. I have to say, for someone spouting about the dangers of cluster B personality disorders, you got egotistical down pretty well…

- as for your tl;dr political post: Short Version "Trump emboldens people to be mean to me in gaming forums". You really need an alternate outlet. Try a tumbler blog.

Am I overly mean and critical here? Yes, I am. My pet peeve are really people trying to bully by appealing to virtues and the greater good. And people who parade as being special by virtue of their normal human imperfections. You are not special beside being especially annoying with your DDO Posts.

Summary: I think you are wrong about just everything in life beside squirrels, cannot argue with those.

If you come across adversity everywhere with everyone, maybe it is not about the villany of the world, but about you.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

And PS, I have a degree in Psychology from a top 5 university and have taught college Psychology for over 10 years. Your drivel of pop-psychology is just that, unresearched drivel that clearly shows how little you know and understand in regard to psychology. Stop doing a disservice to the profession. This is philosophy, not psychology....... also I do no disservice to psychology in stating this as I can prove what I am saying, cite sources, and then make an honest attempt to refute each individual source that represents a support for my position, if you knew me in person you'd know that I myself am evidence for what I speak, especially if you are one of the many who would try to anger me. Also might I ask what peer reviewed articles you've written for the field psychology? It is less common than you think to be "Smarter than a fifth grader" (A reference to what the show demonstrates) as information retention is a problem all the while genius is a matter of specialization and you'd be rather insane to conclude that Stephen Hawkings at full health and functionality could have consistently out-cooked Gordon Ramsay.... also from my time in the college environment people doing the homework of others in exchange for favors seemed to be quite common, also universities do not come without bias, sometimes that bias is political, sometimes it is religious.... but never is it a healthy essential for the pursuit of knowledge and self-improvement.... that being said not all universities are equal and so it comes down to the possibility of narcissistic drivel equivalent to one who thinks they are "Smarter than a fifth grader" but isn't. Psychology is supposed to be a field of science, and so if you went to college for psychology as you claim, you'd approach my position scientifically rather than approach it through a foundation purely of your own opinions, in other words ask for something to prove a statement I've made and then attempt to refute said evidence..... also you'd know that people exist who lack certain emotions as such is even documented in the DSM manuals and the reason they lack such does not always come down to them having had lacked such from birth (In fact the process of development on this matter has a significant following of researchers, some speculating that susceptibility is genetic while there is no assurance for development when associated genes are present). I don't pretend to be "Smarter than a fifth grader" in fact I am quite certain I'd lose if I ever had gone on said show, in fact I am hyper aware of the fact that each person has their own intelligence and specializations in such along side their bias...... and through all of that and assessment on your approach I regard as of now, your response to not be worthy of taking with any more than a grain of salt.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

- errrm, mainly I was refering to the concept of projection. How temper tantrums and anger are connected is no mystery to anyone really.

- "when I lost the capacity for anger": wow, you are so full of it, I am lacking words.

- no need to enlighten us with your "philosophy of assumption". Here is the kicker: Noone cares about your motivations. What People care for and what they call you out for are your actions - which are spamming the forums with related topics all day long.

- also, your attempt of owning a public space of discussion by excluding yourself from criticism by an over the top appeal to the greater good is pathetic. I have to say, for someone spouting about the dangers of cluster B personality disorders, you got egotistical down pretty well…

- as for your tl;dr political post: Short Version "Trump emboldens people to be mean to me in gaming forums". You really need an alternate outlet. Try a tumbler blog.

Am I overly mean and critical here? Yes, I am. My pet peeve are really people trying to bully by appealing to virtues and the greater good. And people who parade as being special by virtue of their normal human imperfections. You are not special beside being especially annoying with your DDO Posts.

Summary: I think you are wrong about just everything in life beside squirrels, cannot argue with those.

If you come across adversity everywhere with everyone, maybe it is not about the villany of the world, but about you.

Well, if no one cares about my motivations, then no one sincerely cares about what they keep asking me to do...... it's as simple as that and so I am left to assume that the enjoyment people get out of spewing vitriol and negativity is at least on some subconscious level or something the real motivation behind their negativity when I tell them how to get what they want and while it is the case that their motivations are rooted far too much in opinion.

The spectrum for the state of arrogance, the state of being overly self-critical, and the state of perceiving one's self and perspectives with realism is triangular in shape, not a straight line with viewing one's self and perspectives with realism being in the center..... meaning that a statement or belief can be equally arrogant as it is overly self-critical without necessarily being an accurate representation of the self and the facts perceived by the self. Someone calling someone egotistical who favors; inquiry, refutations, and recantations over habitual assumptions, the dodging of accountability, and the avoidance of change when they themselves tend to demonstrate favor for habitual assumptions, the dodging of accountability, and the avoidance of change is but a hypocrite..... not to mention unavoidably bound to incite and encourage further incivility than they themselves inact directly. No, I only use Trump and those he emboldens as an example for highlighting the folly of mob mentalities driven by a culture of habitual assumptions and emotional immaturity..... and you know, the use of examples as a conversational mechanism is far too common for me to not point out the Strawman argument you are making in twisting my use of said example to mean something aside from what it is actually pertaining to. Your failure to use inquiry over assumption is one of the biggest problems in society and such is the number one stand I hold to as by assessment every wrongfully marginalized group in existence is wrongfully marginalized on the very basis of assumption over inquiry being the norm. If we always inquired when necessary rather than assume when detrimental, we would not stand for corruption as we do now as the inquirical processes would drive us to become hyper aware of the consequences for inaction/action on many matters we are simply ignorant of as things are now, sure this would take longer than I make it sound due to people's ability to lie but in the end those lies will only burn bridges and shine light and who to not trust. So, does one ask if someone has an allergy before serving them a food, or does one risk the consequences? If you want something, you make inquiries on acquiring it..... that's just common sense. If your lack of inquiry leads you to waste your breath or if your lack of inquiry causes you to break a model kit (For example) rather than successfully build it despite the instructions being completely within your access for you to ascertain the answers to said inquiry you'd be wise to make then no one is to blame but yourself. If inquiry incites animosity, then simply hold the person accountable for said animosity and give them a little speech on the folly and immaturity of such. Popular opinion does not equal fact, but communication is essential for ascertaining facts but only after one learns to recognize how to tell when someone is simply treating popular opinion as fact in which quite frankly requires an unbiased desire to seek truth for it's own sake and out of repulsion for untruths one may hold with value. I know there are untruths I still hold to be true, and quite frankly knowing that makes my skin itch, I am more than happy to present recantations when I am wrong as such represents to me a mark of progression worth much pride.

[Bacab]

Why don't you just go back to writing crappy poetry while listening to Simple Plan and pondering why Chester Bennington took his own life?

Your attempts to sound deep are just pretentious and childish.

You are out of your league here. Many people on this forum are very educated in real life and in a scholarly way.

Maybe your cheesy faux-philosophy worked with a bunch of 19 year old girls, but that is not your audience here man.

Just enjoy the game like the rest of us. Notice, I am not telling you how to play the game. I am just asking that you enjoy the game.

Instead, you wanted to be treated like a beautiful and unique snowflake. No, I am not quoting Trump. I am quoting my favorite philosophy/psychology book "Fight Club" by Chuck Palaniuk.

“You are not special. You're not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else. We're all part of the same compost heap. We're all singing, all dancing **** of the world.”
-Chuck

My point is, please quit pushing your agenda. You are not sneaky or charismatic. We know what you are attempting to do and we do not appreciate it.

Please post your "Rings of Link Park/Simple Plan/Fall Out Boy legacy Vampirism" onto the "Ideas Forum" so they can properly be ignored over there. Just like how the audience ignores you at open mic night at the organic vegan bean restaurant you hang out at.

[Algreg]

Why don't you just go back to writing crappy poetry while listening to Simple Plan and pondering why Chester Bennington took his own life?

Your attempts to sound deep are just pretentious and childish.

You are out of your league here. Many people on this forum are very educated in real life and in a scholarly way.

Maybe your cheesy faux-philosophy worked with a bunch of 19 year old girls, but that is not your audience here man.

Just enjoy the game like the rest of us. Notice, I am not telling you how to play the game. I am just asking that you enjoy the game.

Instead, you wanted to be treated like a beautiful and unique snowflake. No, I am not quoting Trump. I am quoting my favorite philosophy/psychology book "Fight Club" by Chuck Palaniuk.

“You are not special. You're not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else. We're all part of the same compost heap. We're all singing, all dancing **** of the world.”
-Chuck

My point is, please quit pushing your agenda. You are not sneaky or charismatic. We know what you are attempting to do and we do not appreciate it.

Please post your "Rings of Link Park/Simple Plan/Fall Out Boy legacy Vampirism" onto the "Ideas Forum" so they can properly be ignored over there. Just like how the audience ignores you at open mic night at the organic vegan bean restaurant you hang out at.

I think you got that one wrong, seems more like Age of Aquarius meets Victorian lobotomy as a manual for society building. I doubt Bennington would have been very keen on Lokeal's Huxleyan paradise. I wholeheartedly agree with everything else and tone though :P

[slugstone]

Dude, I don't get angry, just a little disappointed and surprised, please don't project..... I regard anger as to being no different than a temper tantrum.

With as much ranting you are doing I would say your angry.

[Algreg]

See, I normally don´t go to such lengths, but all your talk of your philosophy and your hobby/project and all the information you share about them so freely got me interested. I was wondering what this was all about. So I checked your hobby.

Interesting I have to say. So, for example, what part of humanism and/or emotional hygiene covers, say, refering repeatedly to groups of people as "sub-human" or "sub-human at best" on Twitter and expressing a wish to push them to the bottom of society "where they belong" once you got in power?

I am not the biggest fan of Nietzsche, but some things he got really right. To paraphrase heavily: Beware of the self-proclaimed good man whose only reason for being good is a lack of fangs and claws...

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

With as much ranting you are doing I would say you're angry.

Then you are projecting your lack of motivations through things other than anger onto someone. Anger is not a necessary motivator..... it's like this, sometimes an author writes to be heard, sometimes an author finds that communicating their ideas through different series of words conveys greater effectiveness and that repeated re-explaining one's self eventually leads to the usage of better wording though tedious as it may be, it is in fact effective.... and sometimes a debater writes to be refuted, but a debater writing to be refuted will not react to negativity that does not start from inquiry or at the vert least make constructive criticism without basing such on mere assumptions or pure opinions.

Edit: Oh, I just noticed.... you're not your...... tell you what, edit in a correction there and I'll try and make it look like you never made that typo by editing out this edit....

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

Why don't you just go back to writing crappy poetry while listening to Simple Plan and pondering why Chester Bennington took his own life?

Your attempts to sound deep are just pretentious and childish.

You are out of your league here. Many people on this forum are very educated in real life and in a scholarly way.

Maybe your cheesy faux-philosophy worked with a bunch of 19 year old girls, but that is not your audience here man.

Just enjoy the game like the rest of us. Notice, I am not telling you how to play the game. I am just asking that you enjoy the game.

Instead, you wanted to be treated like a beautiful and unique snowflake. No, I am not quoting Trump. I am quoting my favorite philosophy/psychology book "Fight Club" by Chuck Palaniuk.

“You are not special. You're not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else. We're all part of the same compost heap. We're all singing, all dancing **** of the world.”
-Chuck

My point is, please quit pushing your agenda. You are not sneaky or charismatic. We know what you are attempting to do and we do not appreciate it.

Please post your "Rings of Link Park/Simple Plan/Fall Out Boy legacy Vampirism" onto the "Ideas Forum" so they can properly be ignored over there. Just like how the audience ignores you at open mic night at the organic vegan bean restaurant you hang out at.

Wow, so you assume I am trying to sound deep.......... who ever tries to sound deep? That's just lame..... in fact I don't even regard what I say as to being deep, I just regard it to be well reasoned unless able to be refuted in which frankly I welcome with a sort of lust.

Faux philosophy? Do you even know what the word philosophy means? Also, I'm asexual so why would intrigue of girls interest me?

You assume me to be an emo, why is that exactly?

I am here posting to hear the opinions of others that work towards a means to an end, not to push an agenda.....

Actually I could tell you better than anyone that I am not special, I don't pretend to be special, I acknowledge that I am different and expects others to acknowledge the difference of others as well. But hey if everyone has differences, then no one is special in said presence of differences, therefore no one is special period. Please stop assuming things to be the reality of the matter, assumption does not equal fact.......... learn to inquire habitually, stop assuming habitually. No, I have no more charisma than a pile of rocks, but let's not forget those with charisma that have caused far too much harm in the world before speaking as if to glorify such on such a level.

My agenda for most of my posts is to accurately imagine the means to achieve a build outside what is currently available in hopes that said insight will allow me to spot what to look out for when a matching change might be made in any given tree or piece/set of gear, my limitation is that I lack the insight to imagine without folly and to that I reach out........ Imagining something and asking for help in imagining it is not pushing anything. Eventually I hope to condense all of what I wish to see into a smaller and smaller suggestion.

But then again, I do want legacy vampirism to be brought back at least for single weapon fighting, balance to be based from a pure class build versatility standpoint before a multiclassing standpoint, and melee orbs........ but I ask the community not to approve of what I suggest, but to one up my suggestions on how those can be accomplished without betraying the central motiving aims for such.

My suggestions for creature companion squirrels and new cosmetic hairstyle options for the Shadar-kai are a different matter all together.

You don't understand, you are telling me how to enjoy the game without realizing it...... autoheal procs are my means of submersing myself into battle and thus my means of enjoying the game as it allows me to divert as much of my attention away from my healthbar as it required to focus adequately more on the battle itself while also saving me spellpoints and giving me a slightly longer time in between the points where the need to heal myself arises.

In the end you are encouraging the activity that you complain about by complaining rather than participating in the search for viable solutions.....

If you want me to stop being a class purist on DDO, then push for bound to account lesser hearts of wood to become farmable (At least in the +1 lesser heart variety).... that would be the only solution outside of me proposing to make more builds within pure classes equally viable to others within a pure class build.

A form of legacy vampirism with a cap on how much each hit can heal you for per minute of combat (After healing amplification) that is based somehow on your character level would solve the vampirism balance problem..... however that would require a bit of math. Legacy vampirism was only discontinued because it was the easy way out, rather than it being the right way out.

I would not be caught dead in a vegan social place......... I've had way too many rides with a farmer in their harvesters as I would watch in horror at all the animals killed by such and know too much on nutritional needs such as that in which is for B12 to not know the absurdity of veganism.

Anyhow, I recently edited more details into this after fixing a typo....

[Lonnbeimnech]

It's all so tiresome

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

See, I normally don´t go to such lengths, but all your talk of your philosophy and your hobby/project and all the information you share about them so freely got me interested. I was wondering what this was all about. So I checked your hobby.

Interesting I have to say. So, for example, what part of humanism and/or emotional hygiene covers, say, refering repeatedly to groups of people as "sub-human" or "sub-human at best" on Twitter and expressing a wish to push them to the bottom of society "where they belong" once you got in power?

I am not the biggest fan of Nietzsche, but some things he got really right. To paraphrase heavily: Beware of the self-proclaimed good man whose only reason for being good is a lack of fangs and claws...

So you pick and choose a few words..... Not only do I have fangs and claws, I am far from a self-proclaimed good-person, in fact I also frequently openly state that you should be weary of people who call themselves good people and have said many times that statements of positive absolutes about one's self generate a sort of toxic complacency while negative absolute statements about one's self tend to keep someone from improving themselves as well but through deluding one's self into believing that their negative traits can not be changed. I don't regard myself as a good person or a bad person but refuse to regard myself as anything but a work in progress, nothing makes me who I am that is not capable of changing. When I call them sub-human or sub-human at best there is much deeper context including the notion that if I refer to them as such perhaps people would investigate on what all traits they hold. But in reality it's been a while since I've referred to them as such. It went to "Sub-human at best" with the belief that such types were incapable of changing along side acknowledgement that such traits associated with said personality disorder actually do conflict with what all it means to have humanity, then it was "Sub-human at best" to encourage more people to help feed me the additional data that made me start to consider there was maybe a possible cure for such traits if each trait was treated individually, then my statement became "Sub-human at worst, curable at best". You really do a good job at cherry picking to build on your strawman arguments, but you seem to forget that I am able to refute/correct you.

If you research the traits of cluster B personality disorders...... you'd agree and see your current opposition as absurd, either that or you'd get super offended at said statement. Here are just a few of said problematic traits.

*Disregard for others' needs or feelings
*Persistent lying, stealing, using aliases, conning others
*Repeated violation of the rights of others
*Aggressive, often violent behavior
*Disregard for the safety of self or others
*Impulsive behavior
*Consistently irresponsible
*Lack of remorse for behavior
*Impulsive and risky behavior, such as having unsafe sex, gambling or binge eating
*Unstable or fragile self-image
*Unstable and intense relationships
*Excessively emotional, dramatic or sexually provocative to gain attention
*Speaks dramatically with strong opinions, but few facts or details to back them up
*Easily influenced by others
*Shallow, rapidly changing emotions
*Excessive concern with physical appearance
*Belief that you're special and more important than others
*Fantasies about power, success and attractiveness
*Failure to recognize others' needs and feelings
*Exaggeration of achievements or talents
*Expectation of constant praise and admiration
*Arrogance
*Unreasonable expectations of favors and advantages, often taking advantage of others
*Envy of others or belief that others envy you

[Valerianus]

i'm so happy this thread is happening and is not yet closed, i'm rofling so hard

[caberonia]

Well that escalated quickly...

[Hobgoblin]

i second the stop.

i see posts by you and it makes me irrationally angry.

far beyond what the posts deserve.

it is not the idea of the items you want

it is the tone of what you are typing

it is the attitude of - only the class i want should get buffs and only the pure class and screw the rest of the class and i dont care about if it makes the game unbalanced.

finally it is the idea of "o you disagree with me, so im gonna pull out the you are throwing out a temper tantrum and attacking me" and i know what im talking about it is philosophy. coming from someone who was going for a phd in philosophy, you are quite full of it.

[Algreg]

as you are so keen on dimestore psychology and the whole assumption concept, let us try a socialogical/psychological typology of yourself for a change.

My assumptions:

- above average intelligence
- didn´t manage higher learning/formal training for this reason or another or just lack of discipline
- for this reason, keen on picking up bits and pieces of professional knowledge and happy to lecture others on those. Sadly, lacking the professional training, misunderstands or takes pieces out of context.
- developed an identity based on reveling in the shortcomings responsible for his failure. Identifies normal character flaws as special mental deviations to feed that narrative.
- developed a system of blaming the world for his shortcomings, sees the world dominated (mostly against "people like him") by a cabal of people with narcicistic personality disorders. Bordering on a schizoid personality in this regard.
- craves for attention even if it is purely based on adversity. Ironically enough, that could also point towards histrionic personality disorder, which belongs to cluster B types.

So, pretty much angsty failed would be intellectual. I hate to break it to you, that is neither very uncommon nor special.

[Uralte]

I really think everyone should read this thread again and ask yourself a few questions;

1. What is this forum based on?

2. What does "T" for teen really mean in the greater scheme of things?

3. Could the energy I am expending arguing on this thread be put to better use?

4. Does the ignore button, in fact, exist?

5. Should solipsism be the philosophy of debate here or is that way too obvious?

[DYWYPI]

There's an ancient proverb: "There's nowt so queer as folk except for thee and me, and even thee's a little queer." Loosely translated: "There is nothing as strange as people, except for you and me, and even then you're a little strange."


I couldn't care less what certificates or education someone claims to have with regards to this thread; it's obvious (or should be to a well-balanced and mature level-headed person) several of the posters are rubbing each other up the wrong-way. Anyone with even an ounce of common sense and decency should be able to determine there are communication issues occurring. Common sense hides shame.

If you are not sure if your post adds to the discussion or might detract from its usefulness, think over what you want to say and try again later.

The topics discussed here matter to us, be respectful of the topics and the people discussing them, even if you disagree with some of what is being said. If you have to, just move on. Save your energy for something you value.

I wouldn't be surprised if Jerry at some stage comes across this thread and intervenes since, it's deteriorated beyond belief and mutated into some outlandish debate. One of the most difficult things to give away is kindness; usually it comes back to you.

OP, if you want to know if the "Jar Of Mayonnaise" was a 'good idea' the evidence suggests; it wasn't well-received as being that humorous. However, when you get heckled for telling "bad jokes" usually it's not sensible to throw back abusive language, suggesting the people have no sense of humour. Check your joke with a few friends first and if they think it's funny, then give it a try.

[Algreg]

yes, this thread has gone completely over the top and is pretty unrelated to original topic now. But this thing simply reached the flashpoint for some people after weeks of strange spamming. Initially, most reactions came down to amused bafflement. When the whole front page was dominated by these topics, many people reacted with still benign requests to lay it off a bit. They were all met by an unbelievable pompousness and strange ramblings about oppressive personalites. After enduring that for some weeks, at some point it didn´t need much to explode. Which finally happened here. Personally, I think I am done now, this individual is simply broken beyond repair and there is absolutely no point going on or reading this forum for that matter.

[Kalapurka]

Just. Stop. Seriously.

Seriously.

Stop.

This is an intervention.

No fun allowed???

Looks like a pretty fun item for the anniversary, plus is an orb.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

i second the stop.

i see posts by you and it makes me irrationally angry.

far beyond what the posts deserve.

it is not the idea of the items you want

it is the tone of what you are typing

it is the attitude of - only the class i want should get buffs and only the pure class and screw the rest of the class and i dont care about if it makes the game unbalanced.

finally it is the idea of "o you disagree with me, so im gonna pull out the you are throwing out a temper tantrum and attacking me" and i know what im talking about it is philosophy. coming from someone who was going for a phd in philosophy, you are quite full of it.

Read the Philosopher's Toolkit, the way it defines philosophy does not betray the nature of Philosophy as it was intended, no I am not throwing a temper tantrum....

here's the definition https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tantrum

Tantrum: a fit of bad temper

In other words you are projecting, my motivations are different than your's and I ask that you accept that.

Yes, all anger is irrational...... anything that can normally anger someone can simply sadden and/or disappoint them, it's only when you can't accept that the world does not revolve around you that you have anger instead.

How you assume my tone is intended to be, is your responsibility, not mine.

No, actually I aim to push for EVERY class to gain buffs and benefits, I want every class' melee alternative to be as smooth as the artificer's melee alternative path without requiring multiclassing, you'd see this if you read deep enough into my history, but it is clear you'd rather assume everything as you can't seem to understand that assumption does not equal truth by virtue of the effort it takes to assume..... in which let's face it, such is not much effort at all.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

yes, this thread has gone completely over the top and is pretty unrelated to original topic now. But this thing simply reached the flashpoint for some people after weeks of strange spamming. Initially, most reactions came down to amused bafflement. When the whole front page was dominated by these topics, many people reacted with still benign requests to lay it off a bit. They were all met by an unbelievable pompousness and strange ramblings about oppressive personalites. After enduring that for some weeks, at some point it didn´t need much to explode. Which finally happened here. Personally, I think I am done now, this individual is simply broken beyond repair and there is absolutely no point going on or reading this forum for that matter. People assuming the tone I am typing with should not be a problem, if you talked to me in person, I'm actually rather monotone or whimsical where you'd expect me to be sounding gruff or angry.... it all comes down to people projecting onto me. If you think I am pompous (Definition:affectedly and irritatingly grand, solemn, or self-important.) then you obviously only see what you want to see, I don't actually like playing any class other than Artificer, but the recent artificer update was a great service to fans of the class as it made the class fun to play while balancing flavorful mechanics into the mix that improve survivability. Vampirism does indeed have potential, if legendary greensteel orbs were a thing, everyone would be aware of that as having all of that healing amplification on the off hand would have proven such especially if it came from Nightmare The Fallen Moon. I'm whimsical and have the charisma of a pile of rocks, there is nothing grand about that nor do i pretend there to be, there is nothing inherently wrong with being solemn as solemn is just a matter of sincerity, further more if I were self-important I would have stopped at pushing for my favored class to receive the love it needed to thrive and perhaps even spoken against other classes receiving such like some people who's history on posting clearly shows them doing. I call people out, if that is your problem then maybe there's a problem within that, however while I call people out, I also call myself out and make recantations on my statements and claims from time to time. I especially find myself to be wrong in terms of what the details read on the mechanics of something vs what the mechanics actually do. If you do not want me replying to your negativity and emphasizing the problem with such, then don't reply to my posts.... apparently that's kind of rocket science, but it's not really. If all you have is toxicity, then don't bother replying to someone who is zealously against said toxicity..... heck, don't reply to anyone if all you have is toxicity. If you can be constructive, fine.... but attempting to enforce limitations on the free speech of others purely for the sake of trying to silence them simply because you lack the self-restraint to ignore them, is not constructive.... but in fact self-important. I reply to things like this because I regard doing so as to being very importantly constructive, but I must admit I am no pro at communicating by any stretch of the imagination. I'm all for debating my ideas, the majority of people don't like debating something and so they project that onto me thinking I am speaking in absolutes or with obvious intent or contexts, and when I explain to them otherwise, most of the time they simply tune said explanation out as their ego is hurt by being told they are wrong. I am well aware that many of my ideas are flawed, but when people assume otherwise rather than inquiring on what all I am aware of, what the context of something is, or what the intention of something is first, that's the real pompousness going on here and I say that after having had dissected the very definition of pompous. The reality of the matter is, I am just one voice of many, my voice may be more actively expressed than your's but that does not make it more or less important than your voice, maybe you should voice yourself more often, ignore me if my posts bother you, and move along?

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

There's an ancient proverb: "There's nowt so queer as folk except for thee and me, and even thee's a little queer." Loosely translated: "There is nothing as strange as people, except for you and me, and even then you're a little strange."



OP, if you want to know if the "Jar Of Mayonnaise" was a 'good idea' the evidence suggests; it wasn't well-received as being that humorous. However, when you get heckled for telling "bad jokes" usually it's not sensible to throw back abusive language, suggesting the people have no sense of humour. Check your joke with a few friends first and if they think it's funny, then give it a try.

The Jar of Mayonnaise is not an idea for an item but was intended to be an idea for something to get people together and enjoy the humor that could be derived from imagining the absurdity of such, that's all this post was....... but the toxicity of people has come out and proven quite dominant, people should be ashamed of themselves but they aren't. They can't seem to accept that everyone has their own brand of humor and with that avoid commenting on the inherently harmless expressions of humor they can't personally enjoy all the while realizing that humor is often self-medication for sorrow, and so their self-importance leads them to attack the means for another to indulge in some harmless lighthearted intent.

[zwiebelring]

I think this item was a funny idea. :D

I cannot judge the OP like others did, so I presume the hate is purely based on ingame pranksters greasing Tempest Spine cave exits, chests and some stairs... which is always funny if it doesn't affect yourself ;P.

[walkin_dude]

My main objection to this thread is the attempt to pass off Hellmann's as mayonaise...

http://whatsyourdeal.com/grocery-coupons/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Capture41.png

[Hobgoblin]

People assuming the tone I am typing with should not be a problem, if you talked to me in person, I'm actually rather monotone or whimsical where you'd expect me to be sounding gruff or angry.... it all comes down to people projecting onto me. If you think I am pompous (Definition:affectedly and irritatingly grand, solemn, or self-important.) then you obviously only see what you want to see, I don't actually like playing any class other than Artificer, but the recent artificer update was a great service to fans of the class as it made the class fun to play while balancing flavorful mechanics into the mix that improve survivability. Vampirism does indeed have potential, if legendary greensteel orbs were a thing, everyone would be aware of that as having all of that healing amplification on the off hand would have proven such especially if it came from Nightmare The Fallen Moon. I'm whimsical and have the charisma of a pile of rocks, there is nothing grand about that nor do i pretend there to be, there is nothing inherently wrong with being solemn as solemn is just a matter of sincerity, further more if I were self-important I would have stopped at pushing for my favored class to receive the love it needed to thrive and perhaps even spoken against other classes receiving such like some people who's history on posting clearly shows them doing. I call people out, if that is your problem then maybe there's a problem within that, however while I call people out, I also call myself out and make recantations on my statements and claims from time to time. I especially find myself to be wrong in terms of what the details read on the mechanics of something vs what the mechanics actually do. If you do not want me replying to your negativity and emphasizing the problem with such, then don't reply to my posts.... apparently that's kind of rocket science, but it's not really. If all you have is toxicity, then don't bother replying to someone who is zealously against said toxicity..... heck, don't reply to anyone if all you have is toxicity. If you can be constructive, fine.... but attempting to enforce limitations on the free speech of others purely for the sake of trying to silence them simply because you lack the self-restraint to ignore them, is not constructive.... but in fact self-important. I reply to things like this because I regard doing so as to being very importantly constructive, but I must admit I am no pro at communicating by any stretch of the imagination. I'm all for debating my ideas, the majority of people don't like debating something and so they project that onto me thinking I am speaking in absolutes or with obvious intent or contexts, and when I explain to them otherwise, most of the time they simply tune said explanation out as their ego is hurt by being told they are wrong. I am well aware that many of my ideas are flawed, but when people assume otherwise rather than inquiring on what all I am aware of, what the context of something is, or what the intention of something is first, that's the real pompousness going on here and I say that after having had dissected the very definition of pompous. The reality of the matter is, I am just one voice of many, my voice may be more actively expressed than your's but that does not make it more or less important than your voice, maybe you should voice yourself more often, ignore me if my posts bother you, and move along?

no.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

I think this item was a funny idea. :D

I cannot judge the OP like others did, so I presume the hate is purely based on ingame pranksters greasing Tempest Spine cave exits, chests and some stairs... which is always funny if it doesn't affect yourself ;P.


Aside for tasty ham explosion, grease is the only truly funny effect I can think of....... here's what it could contain if all effects need be somewhat humorous but within reason.

*Chance to cast grease on being hit
*Allies gain freedom of movement (Problem of first effect would be solved)
*Chance to summon a Tasty Ham Barrel on being hit
*Reincarnate Ally as a Kobold 3/3 charges per day

But when I invite creativity, comradery and humor....... it doesn't seem to click with people and then they seem like the ones with aspergers rather than me...... and the offensively stereotypical aspie, not like me...... but angry and irrationally set on replying only with toxicity.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

My main objection to this thread is the attempt to pass off Hellmann's as mayonaise...

http://whatsyourdeal.com/grocery-coupons/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Capture41.png

Is Duke's that good? Where can I get some to try it?

[Domince]

Aside for tasty ham explosion, grease is the only truly funny effect I can think of....... here's what it could contain if all effects need be somewhat humorous but within reason.

*Chance to cast grease on being hit
*Allies gain freedom of movement (Problem of first effect would be solved)
*Chance to summon a Tasty Ham Barrel on being hit
*Reincarnate Ally as a Kobold 3/3 charges per day

But when I invite creativity, comradery and humor....... it doesn't seem to click with people and then they seem like the ones with aspergers rather than me...... and the offensively stereotypical aspie, not like me...... but angry and irrationally set on replying only with toxicity.


You are responded in that way because you are constantly posting items that consist of the same few things, you then proceed to defend them when faced with critisim. not recongnizing your ignorance doesnt help.

[walkin_dude]

Is Duke's that good? Where can I get some to try it?

According to Wikipedia, it's available across the U. S. as of last year. Before that, it was more of a southern thing. It originated in South Carolina (and I'm in North Carolina).

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

You are responded in that way because you are constantly posting items that consist of the same few things, you then proceed to defend them when faced with critisim. not recongnizing your ignorance doesnt help.

Maybe because none of the basic types of so called criticism I reply to as such are constructive?

If I don't treat something as constructive, then either it isn't constructive or the fact that I am not treating it as constructive should be obvious and you should try and convince me that such is constructive?


1-"I don't like that effect" plus not giving an argument for why you don't like such.

2-"Stop posting, you shouldn't be posting more than me" plus random hateful comments

3-"That effect suggestion is stupid and/or over powered" plus not suggesting an alternative or explaining how

4-"You/your-idea are/is this way because I assume it to be the case" proceeds to attack through misconception without first going through inquiry to check to see if such is a misconception.

[Domince]

Maybe because none of the basic types of so called criticism I reply to as such are constructive?

If I don't treat something as constructive, then either it isn't constructive or the fact that I am not treating it as constructive should be obvious and you should try and convince me that such is constructive?


1-"I don't like that effect" plus not giving an argument for why you don't like such.

2-"Stop posting, you shouldn't be posting more than me" plus random hateful comments

3-"That effect suggestion is stupid and/or over powered" plus not suggesting an alternative or explaining how

4-"You/your-idea are/is this way because I assume it to be the case" proceeds to attack through misconception without first going through inquiry to check to see if such is a misconception.


The time for constructive critism has gone away with you, every time i see you post its usually some item that consist of the same things like stat damage for vampirism, also i dont post that often, i respond when people have blatantly moronic ideas, when you suggest the same item effect on every item it gets old real quick. We just dont like when all we see on the forums is you posting items that do the same thing and then defending them when they arent that good.

[vyvy3369]

Maybe because none of the basic types of so called criticism I reply to as such are constructive?
You clearly know about the "Suggestions & Ideas" section of the forums - you have 5 threads on the first page. You should post threads containing suggestions and ideas over there.

[simo0208]

You clearly know about the "Suggestions & Ideas" section of the forums - you have 5 threads on the first page. You should post threads containing suggestions and ideas over there.

People who want attention seek it where the audience is. He has been told repeatedly to post there. But there’s less traffic and thus he won’t get the type of attention he seeks. Petulent children like attention good or bad. He is the same, if ofuscated behind a veneer of intellectualism (that actually has no merit otger than to sound smart).

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

The time for constructive critism has gone away with you, every time i see you post its usually some item that consist of the same things like stat damage for vampirism, also i dont post that often, i respond when people have blatantly moronic ideas, when you suggest the same item effect on every item it gets old real quick. We just dont like when all we see on the forums is you posting items that do the same thing and then defending them when they arent that good.

You claim that there was constructive criticism, but if there was then cite it......... if the time for constructive criticism is over then it existed, if it did not exist, then the time hasn't begun and likely won't until certain people grow up. "Blatently moronic ideas" is not only an opinion but too vague and non-descript to even inch near constructive territory, therefore I have no pragmatic reason to value it, and therefore I do not but instead place value in pointing out to you matters of toxicity in your conduct. If you don't understand the vampirism mechanics, then do not complain that I do....... If you don't take the time to calculate how much health on average you lose in combat against a mob per 10 second period of time outside of reaper and do understand that vampirism scales with healing amp (Quite effectively if that vampirism is from a legacy item such as Nightmare, The Fallen Moon), then it won't logically follow to you to then calculate how much you can heal per 10 second period of time through vampirism. I say 10 second period of time of course due to the regeneration proc timing that comes from the legendary greensteel stacking regeneration effect and the fact that the average heal from other items can simply be divided by ten as can their average proc timing. You claim me to have arrogance in my value of vampirism and other auto healing procs, but if you've never maxed out your healing amp while using all of them at once without sacrificing your defences and DPS enhancing effects to any significant extent, then what is your argument exactly? No, you just don't like that I post more than you, so please stop complaining or you are sure to have a headache trying to get me to agree with your privileged mindset that states I should only post as much as you do, either post more often or ignore me.... it's that simple.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

People who want attention seek it where the audience is. He has been told repeatedly to post there. But there’s less traffic and thus he won’t get the type of attention he seeks. Petulent children like attention good or bad. He is the same, if ofuscated behind a veneer of intellectualism (that actually has no merit otger than to sound smart).

This is a general discussion topic as it is not an idea for the game but intended to be a gag topic for DDO related humor, other topics are not an idea so much as a debate and so they belong in the discussion forum. DDO might be better off with a debate forum. If I am aware that an idea is not fleshed out enough, I post it here. If I do not want something to influence the game but want to discuss it (No matter the reason) I post it here.

I'm far more mature than you give me credit for, I ask for a focus on humor and you guys treat the post like it is intended to suggest changes to the game and start getting toxic, that's immaturity as is the extent that you assume rather than inquire.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

You clearly know about the "Suggestions & Ideas" section of the forums - you have 5 threads on the first page. You should post threads containing suggestions and ideas over there.

Because the "Suggestions and ideas" section is for suggestions and ideas and posts that are intent on inviting friendly and constructive debates as well as posts that are intent not on influencing DDO but sharing DDO related humor and inviting others to participate are far more discussion topics than suggestions and ideas..........

But then you guys assume the nature of my posts without ever even asking and so you assume they are suggestions rather than an attempt to flesh out something that MIGHT become a suggestion and so I am forced to create new version myself and post them again to try and flesh such out from there..... in other words the same problem you are complaining about is the direct product of the problem I complain about in your tendencies, habitual assumptions and the lack of inquiry.

Just because I use theory crafted items as my main conduit to figure out what all I deem to be missing in a build, does not mean that such is where I'd prefer finality of such to come from, however otherwise is always as people seem to assume. Of course there are a few items such as orbs, runearms, and sometimes bastard swords, but then the debate is not whether or not such effects could help build viability but whether or not said effects are underpowered or overpowered as an attribute for such an item..... but even then, many effects on weapons can easily be placed on tree enhancements and feats.

Many of my posts are thought experiments, but you take them too literally even when I try to make it clear that they are thought experiments and not suggestions or ideas intended to influence the game.

Discussing if X item existed is simply easier than discussing if X tree existed, while discussing if X tree existed would be a bad call if I wanted to suggest such as DDO never uses fan made items or trees unless on a very special occassion.

[Domince]

You claim that there was constructive criticism, but if there was then cite it......... if the time for constructive criticism is over then it existed, if it did not exist, then the time hasn't begun and likely won't until certain people grow up. "Blatently moronic ideas" is not only an opinion but too vague and non-descript to even inch near constructive territory, therefore I have no pragmatic reason to value it, and therefore I do not but instead place value in pointing out to you matters of toxicity in your conduct. If you don't understand the vampirism mechanics, then do not complain that I do....... If you don't take the time to calculate how much health on average you lose in combat against a mob per 10 second period of time outside of reaper and do understand that vampirism scales with healing amp (Quite effectively if that vampirism is from a legacy item such as Nightmare, The Fallen Moon), then it won't logically follow to you to then calculate how much you can heal per 10 second period of time through vampirism. I say 10 second period of time of course due to the regeneration proc timing that comes from the legendary greensteel stacking regeneration effect and the fact that the average heal from other items can simply be divided by ten as can their average proc timing. You claim me to have arrogance in my value of vampirism and other auto healing procs, but if you've never maxed out your healing amp while using all of them at once without sacrificing your defences and DPS enhancing effects to any significant extent, then what is your argument exactly? No, you just don't like that I post more than you, so please stop complaining or you are sure to have a headache trying to get me to agree with your privileged mindset that states I should only post as much as you do, either post more often or ignore me.... it's that simple.

Vampirism is nerfed and a good amount of players are starting to play reaper more often, why create an item that is set up for failure in any content worth trying in. Also how in the hell do i have a privilaged mindset? Where did you pull that from, and you post multiple item ideas that consist of vampirism, some vampirism, and more vampirism. I like to see threads on the forums that do something instead of just post random weapon ideas that consist of similar things. Also i dont care how much you post just so long as it isnt item ideas that wouldnt be any good, and i dont see how me posting more often solves anything for me.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

You clearly know about the "Suggestions & Ideas" section of the forums - you have 5 threads on the first page. You should post threads containing suggestions and ideas over there.

Debates=Discussion

Topics not intended to influence DDO=Discussion


Having reasonable doubts and incomplete concepts you want help fleshing out=Discussions

Thought experiments=Discussion

Things that you at the very least in the moment think might be a good idea to influence DDO=Suggestions and Ideas

Assuming something to be true does not make it fact, inquiry helps, please start using it!

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

Vampirism is nerfed and a good amount of players are starting to play reaper more often, why create an item that is set up for failure in any content worth trying in. Also how in the hell do i have a privilaged mindset? Where did you pull that from, and you post multiple item ideas that consist of vampirism, some vampirism, and more vampirism. I like to see threads on the forums that do something instead of just post random weapon ideas that consist of similar things. Also i dont care how much you post just so long as it isnt item ideas that wouldnt be any good, and i dont see how me posting more often solves anything for me.


Vampirism under the correct contexts is good, just not in reaper, and not if used by someone who does not know how to equip for it to be worth it.... reaper is not something everyone enjoys, many people only ever play reaper because someone else wants to run it. Aside for a tiny bit of benefit such as a little extra experience, the reaper cosmetics, and the core enhancements of the reaper trees benefiting outside of reaper...... reaper is ran for reaper's own sake. If you took away the benefits for outside of reaper and the cosmetics, the extra experience gain would not be enough to convince so many people to play it, the main people playing it would be those simply wanting more of a challenge. Liking cosmetics is not niche, liking having a group to run with is not a niche, liking extra experience is not niche, liking that you can make your character stronger is not niche, a quest being challenging is not exclusive to reaper...... reaper itself divided from the rest of said factors is niche.


(Now I have to tell you that this is a thought experiment and not a suggestion to avoid risking you assuming otherwise so please try verrrrrry hard to remember that what I am about to say is a thought experiment and not a suggestion, mind you I am trying to sound patronizing here just as much as you apparently are as I believe doing so has a pragmatic function in regards to point making)

Let's say DDO released a potion on a 100 hour timer that granted players a series of non-stacking effects: healer's bounty, a consciousness range extension effect and regeneration effect (28 hitpoints every ten seconds, does not stack with legendary greensteel heal over time effect), legacy vampirism, and Golem's Heart proc.

Now let's say they allowed you to craft Legendary greensteel orbs and put all of those nifty stacking healing amplifications onto it......

The simple fact is that too many people would know better before claiming such to be worthless in effects, and how and why they truly do add up to matter would be common knowledge.

Once that potion would expire for everyone using it, there would be a good few who had great fun with those procs, and those who found build viability while said potion was in effect where it was non-existent before, and those people would try and imitate those effects after the potion would no longer exist.

[vyvy3369]

Debates=Discussion

Topics not intended to influence DDO=Discussion

Having reasonable doubts and incomplete concepts you want help fleshing out=Discussions

Thought experiments=Discussion

Things that you at the very least in the moment think might be a good idea to influence DDO=Suggestions and Ideas

Assuming something to be true does not make it fact, inquiry helps, please start using it!
Thread with the word "idea" in the title = Idea?

[Grace_ana]

People are reacting this way because they hate spam. I also hate spam. At some point, people reach their spam limit.

You said there should be a subforum for these kinds of suggestions. There is, as you well know. People have been asking you to use it for your many, MANY suggestions. You have ignored their requests.

I would ask Cordo, who is almost certainly going to read through and lock this thread, to move all these suggestion threads of yours into the suggestions thread and perhaps explain it to you in PMs. I think that would solve a lot of issues.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

People are reacting this way because they hate spam. I also hate spam. At some point, people reach their spam limit.

You said there should be a subforum for these kinds of suggestions. There is, as you well know. People have been asking you to use it for your many, MANY suggestions. You have ignored their requests.

I would ask Cordo, who is almost certainly going to read through and lock this thread, to move all these suggestion threads of yours into the suggestions thread and perhaps explain it to you in PMs. I think that would solve a lot of issues.

Uuum, read my comments above explaining why the suggestions and ideas forum is a mismatch....

If it's a thought experiment, it is not an idea/suggestion

The nature of the Ideas And Suggestion forum are only things you'd want to influence DDO, if you are wanting to be influenced or are wanting simply to get people to humor a topic for the sake of humor while being open about such being for humor, then you post in discussion.... I am quite open about things, but people have two mentalities that lead to toxicity here 1-Too long didn't read, 2-Assumption over inquiry. So, If I am posting in discussion, what I post is not seeking to change DDO but seeking to be changed itself, hence where I post determines the nature of the post.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

Thread with the word "idea" in the title = Idea?


If seeking to be influenced-Post in discussion

If seeking to influence-Post in suggestions and ideas

It's not rocket science.....

[simo0208]

If seeking to be influenced-Post in discussion

If seeking to influence-Post in suggestions and ideas

It's not rocket science.....

So the core of it is that you have no understanding of how the forum works. Gotcha.

Perhaps it is not the multitide of people that are wrong but YOU when deciding which of forum your latest spam belongs?

Also, identifying yourself as more mature than you think is akin to your mom telling you that you’re quite the catch. The evidence says otherwise.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

So the core of it is that you have no understanding of how the forum works. Gotcha.

Perhaps it is not the multitide of people that are wrong but YOU when deciding which of forum your latest spam belongs?

Also, identifying yourself as more mature than you think is akin to your mom telling you that you’re quite the catch. The evidence says otherwise.

Uuuh, the definition of discussion says otherwise.

Categorically, thought experiments and fleshing out of ideas (Pre-ideas if you will) belong in discussion as do matters of humor not intended to influence the game in any way.

In the discussion forum, the main goal is to discuss, in the suggestions and ideas forum the main goal is to share. It should not matter that I use theory crafted items to narrow down what I later intend to base suggestions off of, it's obvious that many of my item suggestions bare effects that belong on trees, not items and along with that I am very open about what my intentions are and if you'd just stop assuming and start with inquiry.... I would not have made so many posts farming for the same information, yes, that's right people like you are the reason for my vast number of posts, it's because you don't use inquiry and instead rely far too much on assumptions and your negativity eventually convinces me to abandon a post and work with whatever little data I collected to create another post and work from where ever my progress left off from. So, keep going with the way you are doing things, and so will I, alternatively.... you could push for new forum categories, but options that take more effort but bare better results do not seem like they'd appeal to you. :)

Anyhow, Maturity is one's capacity to balance between hedonism and virtue while maintaining avoidance of detriment.... so yeah, I am quite a bit more mature than you give credit to.

Cheers

[Domince]

Uuuh, the definition of discussion says otherwise.

Categorically, thought experiments and fleshing out of ideas (Pre-ideas if you will) belong in discussion as do matters of humor not intended to influence the game in any way.

In the discussion forum, the main goal is to discuss, in the suggestions and ideas forum the main goal is to share. It should not matter that I use theory crafted items to narrow down what I later intend to base suggestions off of, it's obvious that many of my item suggestions bare effects that belong on trees, not items and along with that I am very open about what my intentions are and if you'd just stop assuming and start with inquiry.... I would not have made so many posts farming for the same information, yes, that's right people like you are the reason for my vast number of posts, it's because you don't use inquiry and instead rely far too much on assumptions and your negativity eventually convinces me to abandon a post and work with whatever little data I collected to create another post and work from where ever my progress left off from. So, keep going with the way you are doing things, and so will I, alternatively.... you could push for new forum categories, but options that take more effort but bare better results do not seem like they'd appeal to you. :)

Anyhow, Maturity is one's capacity to balance between hedonism and virtue while maintaining avoidance of detriment.... so yeah, I am quite a bit more mature than you give credit to.

Cheers


so if we dont like your ideas you are just going to spam the more often? You are definetly the mature one :eek:

[simo0208]

Uuuh, the definition of discussion says otherwise.

Categorically, thought experiments and fleshing out of ideas (Pre-ideas if you will) belong in discussion as do matters of humor not intended to influence the game in any way.

In the discussion forum, the main goal is to discuss, in the suggestions and ideas forum the main goal is to share. It should not matter that I use theory crafted items to narrow down what I later intend to base suggestions off of, it's obvious that many of my item suggestions bare effects that belong on trees, not items and along with that I am very open about what my intentions are and if you'd just stop assuming and start with inquiry.... I would not have made so many posts farming for the same information, yes, that's right people like you are the reason for my vast number of posts, it's because you don't use inquiry and instead rely far too much on assumptions and your negativity eventually convinces me to abandon a post and work with whatever little data I collected to create another post and work from where ever my progress left off from. So, keep going with the way you are doing things, and so will I, alternatively.... you could push for new forum categories, but options that take more effort but bare better results do not seem like they'd appeal to you. :)

Anyhow, Maturity is one's capacity to balance between hedonism and virtue while maintaining avoidance of detriment.... so yeah, I am quite a bit more mature than you give credit to.

Cheers

So it's MY fault that you post the same ideas on the wrong forum over and over? Well, I guess I owe the entire community an apology.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the failure of our educational system. I can only hope you are Canadian or something, so the failures are some other country's problem. Sadly, I don't think that's the case.

You do not work for the game. Your ideas are not even close to something that will see light of day, especially "legacy" vampircism. They changed it for a reason and will not go back no matter how many times you spam the same thread over and over again.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

So it's MY fault that you post the same ideas on the wrong forum over and over? Well, I guess I owe the entire community an apology.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the failure of our educational system. I can only hope you are Canadian or something, so the failures are some other country's problem. Sadly, I don't think that's the case.

You do not work for the game. Your ideas are not even close to something that will see light of day, especially "legacy" vampircism. They changed it for a reason and will not go back no matter how many times you spam the same thread over and over again.

No, it's your fault that you assume I am posting in the wrong forum by assuming that such is anything more than a post to help develop a concept or idea, an invitation for indulging in humor, or a debate, embarrassingly enough even when I specifically specify which it is...... Even when I say that such is not an idea but a means of brainstorming towards a solid idea through discussion you can't seem to comprehend such. If you want to see the failure of the education system, most bathrooms have a mirror.

Legacy Vampirism is too at risk for abuse, though it could be brought back, it would need to be brought back with significant restrictions such as what kind of weapons can have it, and what penalties it may have (Unnatural as seen on Bloodrage Chrism would be a good nerfing). Legacy Vampirism was only 1d3 per hit (Comparatively Scion Of Shadowfell is 1D6 per hit), it took quite a bit to exploit it so the efforts to properly nerf its potential for abuse are that much less extreme. Legacy Vampirism will only get you 11 HP per hit with 280 healing amp thus still making you quite susceptible to dying, especially from that of alpha-strike tactics from enemies.

The abuse of Legacy Vampirism came mainly from the speedy attacks of monks, not much outside of such was much of an issue at all.

Alternatively, they could create a mechanic that downscales it based on your attack speed, upscales it based on your healing amp (Within a limit specified by a limiting cap for maximum possible healing per hit, this cap would vary by level) thus creating a naturally balancing mechanic for it.

When I say bring back Legacy Vampirism, I mean bring it back with controls in place, but when you assume the context rather than asking for such......... you only lose sight of who's really being arrogant.

[simo0208]

No, it's your fault that you assume I am posting in the wrong forum by assuming that such is anything more than a post to help develop a concept or idea, an invitation for indulging in humor, or a debate, embarrassingly enough even when I specifically specify which it is...... Even when I say that such is not an idea but a means of brainstorming towards a solid idea through discussion you can't seem to comprehend such. If you want to see the failure of the education system, most bathrooms have a mirror.

Legacy Vampirism is too at risk for abuse, though it could be brought back, it would need to be brought back with significant restrictions such as what kind of weapons can have it, and what penalties it may have (Unnatural as seen on Bloodrage Chrism would be a good nerfing). Legacy Vampirism was only 1d3 per hit (Comparatively Scion Of Shadowfell is 1D6 per hit), it took quite a bit to exploit it so the efforts to properly nerf its potential for abuse are that much less extreme. Legacy Vampirism will only get you 11 HP per hit with 280 healing amp thus still making you quite susceptible to dying, especially from that of alpha-strike tactics from enemies.

The abuse of Legacy Vampirism came mainly from the speedy attacks of monks, not much outside of such was much of an issue at all.

Alternatively, they could create a mechanic that downscales it based on your attack speed, upscales it based on your healing amp (Within a limit specified by a limiting cap for maximum possible healing per hit, this cap would vary by level) thus creating a naturally balancing mechanic for it.

When I say bring back Legacy Vampirism, I mean bring it back with controls in place, but when you assume the context rather than asking for such......... you only lose sight of who's really being arrogant.

It's not an assumption, it's the actual reality.

[simo0208]

No, it's your fault that you assume I am posting in the wrong forum by assuming that such is anything more than a post to help develop a concept or idea, an invitation for indulging in humor, or a debate, embarrassingly enough even when I specifically specify which it is...... Even when I say that such is not an idea but a means of brainstorming towards a solid idea through discussion you can't seem to comprehend such. If you want to see the failure of the education system, most bathrooms have a mirror.

Legacy Vampirism is too at risk for abuse, though it could be brought back, it would need to be brought back with significant restrictions such as what kind of weapons can have it, and what penalties it may have (Unnatural as seen on Bloodrage Chrism would be a good nerfing). Legacy Vampirism was only 1d3 per hit (Comparatively Scion Of Shadowfell is 1D6 per hit), it took quite a bit to exploit it so the efforts to properly nerf its potential for abuse are that much less extreme. Legacy Vampirism will only get you 11 HP per hit with 280 healing amp thus still making you quite susceptible to dying, especially from that of alpha-strike tactics from enemies.

The abuse of Legacy Vampirism came mainly from the speedy attacks of monks, not much outside of such was much of an issue at all.

Alternatively, they could create a mechanic that downscales it based on your attack speed, upscales it based on your healing amp (Within a limit specified by a limiting cap for maximum possible healing per hit, this cap would vary by level) thus creating a naturally balancing mechanic for it.

When I say bring back Legacy Vampirism, I mean bring it back with controls in place, but when you assume the context rather than asking for such......... you only lose sight of who's really being arrogant.

All of that comment belongs in the suggestions forum. Because you are asking for changes to the game. Interestingly enough, this is also the same forum as the ideas forum. Funny. You can post it there. There are NO requirements for the item or idea to be fleshed out or not discussed there. You can do it. Get over yourself.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

All of that comment belongs in the suggestions forum. Because you are asking for changes to the game. Interestingly enough, this is also the same forum as the ideas forum. Funny. You can post it there. There are NO requirements for the item or idea to be fleshed out or not discussed there. You can do it. Get over yourself.

No I wasn't asking for changes in the game, I was asking for changes in the item concept perhaps even changes that would lead to an enhancement tree concept that's why I placed it in the discussion forum. You assume way too much.

[Domince]

No I wasn't asking for changes in the game, I was asking for changes in the item concept perhaps even changes that would lead to an enhancement tree concept that's why I placed it in the discussion forum. You assume way too much.

So you make an item "IDEA" but put it in discussions because you were looking for changes to it? That sounds like it should go in the "Idea's" section.

[SpartanKiller13]

I think it's hilarious how this thread lasted this long only because it went across a weekend lol. I'll be amazed if it isn't locked by tomorrow.

Towards the OP I think it should be a throwing clicky. 3x per rest you can throw a Jar of Mayonnaise, which explodes into an AoE that nauseates allies & opponents unless they succeed a DC23 Fortitude Save, and applies Grease to the target area. Blocked during raids.


If you see a problem with me, then push for a DDO humor forum (Only this post and one other I've made would be placed there that I can recall of) and a DDO Item And Enhancement Tree Speculation forum.

I'm down with this. At least a Humor forum, a Speculation forum seems a bit similar to the existing. Let's get something positive out of this thread :)


You don't understand, you are telling me how to enjoy the game without realizing it...... autoheal procs are my means of submersing myself into battle and thus my means of enjoying the game as it allows me to divert as much of my attention away from my healthbar as it required to focus adequately more on the battle itself while also saving me spellpoints and giving me a slightly longer time in between the points where the need to heal myself arises.

You might try out Barbarian :) Ravager's T5 Blood Strength gives on-kill healing and a 12% chance at on-hit healing; the numbers are a bit bigger than the 1d3 you're looking for, so that should make up for the <100% proc rate.

[Cordovan]

This might be one of the stranger threads I've ever had to close.