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Vish

07-14-2018, 10:58 AM

Break down
1 Summon Avian Companion You have been trained to keep a hunting bird. Activate this ability to summon your companion. (Your pet cannot be attacked and cannot die. Damage it caused is attributed to you.) While your Hunting Bird is by your side, it grants you a +2 to Spot and Listen checks. Choose one:
Summon Falcon
Summon White Falcon
Summon Grey Owl
Summon Snow Owl
Summon Raven
1 Ability Score Choose an ability to improve:
+1 Strength
+1 Dexterity
+1 Constitution
+1 Intelligence
+1 Wisdom
+1 Charisma
1 Well Rounded I You gain +3 Melee Power, Ranged Power, Physical Resistance Rating, and Magical Resistance Rating. You gain +2 Spot and Listen.
1 Ability Score Choose an ability to improve:
+1 Strength
+1 Dexterity
+1 Constitution
+1 Intelligence
+1 Wisdom
+1 Charisma
1 Well Rounded II You gain +6 Melee Power, Ranged Power, Physical Resistance Rating, and Magical Resistance Rating. You gain +4 Spot and Listen.
1 Master Falconer You gain +2 to all ability scores and benefit from the spell Freedom of Movement. Your active Falcon attacks have a chance to reset the cooldown on Death From Above.
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Tier 1
3 Rugged Gain +2/+4/+6 Physical Resistance Rating
2 Practiced Accuracy You gain +1/+2 to hit with weapons and +1/+2 to confirm critical attacks.
2 Hunter's Knowledge You gain a Animals as a Favored Enemy.
3 Out in Nature Gain +5/+10/+15 to Healing Amplification.
3 Wanderlust You gain +1/+2/+3 to Balance, Jump, and Swim. Rank 3: You gain +1 to Fortitude saving throws.
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Tier 2
2 Killer Instinct I You can use your Wisdom modifier to hit with Melee and Missile weapons.
3 Watch the Center Grants +1/+2/+3 to Assassinate DC's
3 Diving Attack You and your Hunting Bird attack as one against a single target. Activate this ability to attack for +1/2/3(W) against a single target. Your Hunting Bird will follow up for an additional 3d6/6d6/10d6 damage that scales with 200% of melee or ranged power, whichever is higher. Your Hunting Bird also trips the target, causing them to become Helpless. Your target is slowed by 30% for 10 seconds whether they make the saving throw or not. Trip DC: 10 + Character Level + Wisdom modifier + Assassinate bonuses. Cooldown 20 seconds, with a 4.5 second shared cooldown with other hunting bird attacks. Choose One:
Diving Shot: Ranged Falconer Attack
Diving Strike: Melee Falconer Attack
3 Meticulous Weaponry Protect your items or increase your chance of recovering ammunition. Choose one:
Meticulous Weaponry: You have a [25/50/75]% chance to negate potential item wear.
Meticulous Fletching: You are skilled at enhancing, salvaging, and re-purposing your arrows, bolts, and throwing weapons. Your ammunition gains a 50/65/80% chance of returning.
3 Action Boost: Sprint +(30/35/40)% Action Boost bonus to movement speed for 20 seconds.
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Tier 3
2 Killer Instinct II You can use your Wisdom modifier for damage with Melee and Missile weapons.
2 Tear Flesh Your bird attacks now also cause a bleed effect. Bleed: Do 1d6 damage every 2 seconds for 60 seconds. This stacks up to 10 times and scales with 200% Melee or Ranged Power.
3 Strike for the Eyes You and your Hunting Bird attack as one against a single target. Activate this ability to attack for +1/2/3(W) against a single target. Your Hunting Bird will follow up for an additional 3d6/6d6/10d6 damage that scales with 200% of melee or ranged power, whichever is higher. Your Hunting Bird also attempts to Blind the target, causing them to become Helpless. Your target is slowed by 30% for 10 seconds whether they make the saving throw or not. Blind DC: 10 + Character Level + Wisdom modifier + Assassinate bonuses. Cooldown 10 seconds, with a 4.5 second shared cooldown with other hunting bird attacks. Choose One:
Shoot for the Eyes: Ranged Falconer Attack
Strike for the Eyes: Melee Falconer Attack
2 Conditioning You gain +5% to your hit points.
2 Eyes of the Eagle You gain True Seeing.
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Tier 4
3 Deadly Instinct Trance You gain an Insight bonus to damage and the DC of tactical feats equal to 1/2 of your Wisdom modifier for 30/60/120 seconds. Cooldown: 20 seconds. 5 Charges per rest. Each attack from your avian companion has a chance to reset 1 charge. Antirequisite: This ability can not be trained if you have any other Trance ability.
3 No Mercy: You deal 10%/20%/30% additional damage to helpless opponents.
2 Coordinated Strikes Choose between a melee or ranged attack that will cause your bird to rain attacks over an area, damaging and blinding all foes in the area. Choose One:
Shoot and Destroy: Ranged Falconer Attack: You make a ranged attack for +2(W), as your Hunting Bird descends to frenzy in a large area around the first target struck for an additional 10d6 damage that scales with Melee or Ranged Power, whichever is higher. Your Hunting Bird also attempts to blind each opponent struck. Blind DC: 10 + Character Level + Wisdom modifier + Assassinate bonuses. Cooldown 1 Minute, with a 4.5 second shared cooldown with other hunting bird attacks.
Coordinated Cleave: Melee Falconer Cleave Attack: You cleave all opponents near you for +2(W), as your Hunting Bird descends to frenzy in a large area for an additional 10d6 damage that scales with Melee or Ranged Power, whichever is higher. Your Hunting Bird also attempts to blind each opponent struck. Blind DC: 10 + Character Level + Wisdom modifier + Assassinate bonuses. Cooldown 1 Minute, with a 4.5 second shared cooldown with other hunting bird attacks.
2 Expose Weakness Attacks from your hunting bird also reduce your target's fortification by 50%.
2 Shared Vision You are immune to Blindness effects.
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Tier 5
2 Dangerous You gain +10 Melee and Ranged Power.
2 Mark the Prey You have learned how to spot weaknesses in even the mightiest of foes. You make an attack for +5(W) on the target, marking it as prey. The marked target takes 10% extra damage from you and your allies for 10 seconds. Cooldown 3 minutes. Choose One:
Mark the Prey: Melee Attack
Mark the Prey Shot: Ranged Attack
3 Death from Above Your Hunting Bird swoops down and attempts to end someone's Life. You make an attack for +1/+3/+5(W), and your Hunting Bird also attacks for 50/100/200 points of damage that scales with 200% of Melee or Ranged Power, whichever is higher. The target struck makes a Fortitude saving throw, and on a failed save, dies. DC: 10 + Character level + Wisdom bonus + Assassinate bonuses. Cooldown 1 Minute, with a 4.5 second shared cooldown with other hunting bird attacks. Choose One:
Death from Above Shot: Ranged Falconer Attack
Death from Above: Melee Falconer Attack
Thrill of the Hunt Choose One:
3 Thrill of the Hunt: Melee Attack: You strike your target for +1/+3/+5(W). If you hit, you also heal for 5%/10%/20% of your total hit points in Positive Healing. Cooldown: 20 Seconds.
Thrill of the Hunt Shot: Ranged Attack: You strike your target for +1/+3/+5(W). If you hit, you also heal for 5%/10%/20% of your total hit points in Positive Healing. Cooldown: 30 Seconds.
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Break down
6 Cores bird +2 wis +6mp +2 all stats fom
8 tier1 +6prr +2 to hit crit +15 hamp
5 tier2 wis to hit +3 ass
4 tier3 wis to dam +5% hp
10 tier4 wis kta +30% helpless bird fireball -50% fort
10 tier5 +10mp +10% extra dam death from above +20% heal
43

15 stalwart d +25 prr/mrr +20%hp +1con

9 aasimar +2 wis regen loh +10 hamp

14 radiant burst us destroy undead +1 wis

81
-5 racial
4 points for the spread

Notes
Need stunning, assassinate and spell focus
Assassin can go on gloves or trinket
Spell focus from slavers sorc
Stunning? Combat mastery? Looking...

30 gearset next

Vish

07-14-2018, 11:09 PM

Calamity
Proficiency Class Exotic Weapon Proficiency
Damage and Type 5[1d8+3] + 15 Slash, Evil, Magic
Critical threat range 19-20 / x3
Weapon Type Khopesh / Slashing weapons
Enchantments
+15 Enhancement Bonus
Fetters of Unreality
Crippling Flames
Hemorrhaging
Utter Disintegration
Purple Augment Slot
Red Augment Slot
Mythic Weapon Boost +2 or +4

Notes
I guess this is the best khopesh to use?
I would need to raid ten times to get it.

Off hand
The Legendary Mistfallen Orb +15 Orb Bonus, Insightful Mystic Diversion +15, Insightful Spell Focus Mastery +4, Illusory Death 3, Efficient Metamagic - Empower II, Purple Augment Slot, Adherent of the Mists Set

Notes
For the insightful spell focus
Assume sf6 on slavers sorc

Vish

07-15-2018, 02:19 PM

17/3 gearset
Head?*executioners seeker red Sonja fury sorc

Neck slavers 17/4 con resist14 sorc

Goggles richtovens goggles 20 dex 16 reflex 50 mrr adherant

Trinket?*
Slavers trinket wiz371 fire185 qprr11 sorc
Swap? Hands of the Dawn Healer, Devotion +208, Healing Lore +30, Magical Efficiency 10%, Heal +22, Blue Slot, Green slot, adherent

Body Scales of exile +15 Enhancement Bonus
Fortification +202% Parrying +9 Ins Wisdom +9 Ins Con +9
Blue Augment Slot

Cloak Legendary Silverthread Cloak Wisdom +19, Insightful Evocation Focus +4, Fortification +202%, Physical Sheltering +50, Yellow Augment Slot, Adherent

Bracers slavers falselife68, devotion185 sf6 Qwis4 sorc

Belt Silverthread (+202 EnhPosSP, Adherent)

Ring1 lprowess deadly14 acc28 8mp
Ring2 spinneret Qsf2 lore15 spellpen7 Qpotency32 sorc

Boots flightfoot (adherent)
Swap devils commanders?

Hands?*cc 7assassinate3 or 7ass hamp61 insdex7
Swap Innate Arcanum (19cha4, +412 Wiz, Adherent)

Night mothers scepter.sf7, inssf4. Spellpen8, inssp4 swap?
Off hand
The Legendary Mistfallen Orb +15 Orb Bonus, Insightful Mystic Diversion +15, Insightful Spell Focus Mastery +4, Illusory Death 3, Efficient Metamagic - Empower II, Purple Augment Slot, Adherent of the Mists Set

Notes
5 pc sorc
5 pc adherent
It's a 5 piece sorc first. Then the armor, then the cloak, and the goggles. That's max wis and 50 prr/mrr. And dex
And then the gloves for assassinate and hamp.
It keeps sf6 and insightful4 up at all times, and spell pen7. And qual sf2. So it's a good caster.
Missing doublestrike. Run divine crusader. Twist action boosts. Run prowess and other 3 pc. Tbd.
Missing adherent unless cha swap gloves. More for turning.
Don't know the playstyle. Never ran a melee cleric without aura.
Imagine divine crusader epic moment with sacred ground and lay on hands and cocoon and heal should be enough?
Should have avg defenses. Maybe 100/100 prr mrr. And don't know the AC. So probably fragile fighter. Should have decent hit points.
And dire charge with wis kta should be through the roof. Plus bogw, and mass frog and implosion. Should have bag of tricks and be pretty versatile.
Sqwak!

Edit
Oh I do get the adherent set. Forgot the orb!

Adherent of the Mists Set (Legendary): 5 Pieces Equipped:
+20 Profane bonus to Physical Resistance Rating
+20 Profane bonus to Positive, Negative, and Repair Amplification
+10 Profane bonus to Melee and Ranged Power
+20 Profane bonus to Universal Spell Power

Slave lords sorcery
+2 artifact bonus to Int/Wis/Cha
+10 artifact bonus to Spell Power
+4 artifact bonus to Spell Focus Mastery

Vish

07-15-2018, 05:46 PM

Divine crusader
Cores 12mp
Zeal of the Righteous: Active Ability: Gain 50 stacks of Righteous Zeal. Righteous Zeal: +1 Spell Power, +1% doublestrike, +1% doubleshot, +1 Melee Power, +1 Ranged Power. Decays by 1 stack every 3 seconds, and is not lost by resting. (Cooldown: 4 minutes)

4 Tier1 +1 wis, purge the wicked
6 tier2 +1 wis, consecration, flames1
4 tier3 +1 wis, sacred ground
4 tier4 +1 wis, crusade
6 tier5 +1 wis, heavenly presence, celestial champion
0 tier6 no tier6

Notes
The sit is I only got 2 points to play with. So I could drop consecration to 2, drop the fire, and pick up +1 wis. if I needed an even breaker. Or strike down. Tho I don't need any more melee attacks. Bird man covers me there.

Melee power breakdown
16 bird man
6 swf
8 lprowess
12 divine crusader
10 adherent profane
30 epic power
82 static mp
50 zeal
75 prowess
30 mp boost
237 peak

Wisdom breakdown
20 starting aasimar
7 level ups
19 cloak
9 armor
4 slavers bracers
4 bird man
2 aasimar
1 radiant
2 racial past life
5 divine crusader
2 festive wisdom
8 tomes
1 exceptional from globe
2 completionist
2 artifact from slavers sorc
88
Why is this short of 94?
4 Grandmaster stance.
2 profane
2 reaper helm...
2 racial completionist
2 capstone for say a +4 like serenity

Notes
Don't know how I got 94... Must have been an aligning of the heavens. Or a faulty memory. So 86 over 77 isn't much difference. The break will be in the wis kta, for about 40 insightful damage. Plus super duper tactical. Plus 4 combat mastery on the hood.
I am really looking forward to running this build. It will require the craft of 2 slavers items. But if this build is feasible, I may remake vish into him. Vish was always to be the fighting man, now he can stoop the coop. And give a hoot.

Twists
4 sense weakness
3 action boost haste ld
1 brace
1 action boosts ld
1 cocoon

Notes
I should have 16 action boost. Haste and mp. 8 each.

Vish

07-21-2018, 11:49 AM

Sqwak!
The Bird Man cometh!

I've decided I've got to test build this
On Kil
I just got back into the game after 3 days of Updater hell
I understand I have to buy it
Well that's ok, I support ssg
Even in all their buggy incarnations
So give me a week or more,
I've still got to farm wpm as a warlock
And then I'll retire that build,
Until I can build it better with more past lives
Way down the road

But next fotm is the bird man
Sqwak!

ThomasHunter

07-24-2018, 12:22 PM

Looking forward to hearing how this turns out as it interests me quite a bit.:D

Vish

07-24-2018, 01:49 PM

Ya, I think I got this figured out
Decide I'm gonna tr vish into the bird man
That way I don't have to build it twice
I'll put a calamity on him at cap
I won't have completionist and lotta reaper points,
But vish is my minimum investment cleric
Will likely tr after the next patch
Servers buggy and I don't trust a tr

Also gonna go back and revisit Kil on aasimar duality build
Have them both in heroics
And both wisdom builds
Supah!
;)

Vish

07-25-2018, 02:17 AM

Level3
Ok got this bird off the ground
Started 9 dex 12 int, I was worried the skill points
Found my look for vish as an aasimar. For role playing purposes vish has always been human. But for this one I figure it's just his angelic form. So it still counts. The name of the guild, however...
Took olladra. I like the full heal and random ability score boost. I got used to it being my goto button after I rezzed. It works in reaper too.
I paid out the ducats for the bird man tree. Paying to beta test. I must be a fool. But sometimes I can get changes made, so here goes.
Made him neutral, instead of ln. Was thinking monk, not cleric. Tho usually my clerics are lawful.
Ran korThos. Put up a lfm. Got a monk taker. He did all the killing I just tagged along.
Oh ya. After I did tr quest, I ran and got ship buffs, and took gear out of tr. had almost a full inventory, so there's lotta stuff in there. But most of its not good. It's just old legacy loot that I haven't ate yet. But I did get rid of a lot of stuff. Building up a gem for vish too. Kinda like garbage disposal.
But ran the 4 starter quests, then had another add, then ran them again for the new guy, then went snowy side. I had eaten gems to pop level2. I had 8k. So then we did a couple snowy side and the monk left, so that was kinda end of group. I was using a quarter staff and barely doing any dps. And the lvl1 warlock was a first lifer. So it woulda been slow. I am a consummate piker, so I just wait for a group. So then I ate a 10k gem, and took level3 as a fighter.
So I got power attack and swf, and martial prof. I guess I need to find a longsword. I have a lvl4 vorpal khopesh, but don't get exotic til 6. I guess I can use it non prof? Anyways I didnt think out this restart, just built it and ran. But dealing with the low levels is always a hassle.
So put some points into bird tree. Wis to hit is 7 ap. to damage is 12 ap. so by 4th level. But got me a bird. Sqwak! A white falcon. Oh ya I got a head tattoo too. One with a cross and half circle. Also got Vishs face back. All I can guess is that I accidentally hit next in appearance screen and it created the toon. Oh well, he was Amish for a life. But all I got is wis to hit. Saw it at +18. So that's decent. Could prob handle the non prof penalty. But only 3 with no bubbles so no to damage yet. The bird is a toggle. But those 12 points are integral to the build. Not impressed yet, don't know how this is gonna work out.
But I had a find tonite. After running those quests twice, I dumped loot at the general vendor. And I was running a treasure pot, because I'm always looking for good low level gear. And guess what I pulled? The rarest of the rare. A pair of feather falling speed2 boots, ml1. The only thing I look for rng is ff boots of speed. This is phenomenal find. Now I got me some boots for level 1. Even tho at 5 I got speed3 str3 boots. And at 7 I have ff speed4. So that completes my low level set. They are master craft too.
So this build is off to a good start. Got the appearance right, got enough skill ap, gotta include balance for swf, and now I'm gonna be swf wisdom cleric. I should be able to pike until 6.

Oh ya, was worried to tr. game is so bugged right now. You know macs aren't even working? So client seems more unstable. But I figured I'd test on vish, since he doesn't have any loot that I'd care about if lost. Ya he's got his last set as a aa cleric, but that's not gonna be used again likely. Maybe a slavers piece. But he's got a lot of old gear, and thf weapons and bows. Mostly I cleaned a lot of that up. But at any rate he was my test. And looks like everything was there in cache. So mission accomplished.
The bird man lives!
Sqwak!

Vish

07-28-2018, 04:43 AM

Level 6
Kinda slow going, catching no trains. Testing the bird man tree.
Been soloing a bit, with fighter hire. Doing fine on elite. But in reaper I got like 100hp more, and I got a ghost bane khopesh for reapers, so sometimes I do.
Been doing a bit of duo. Duo waterworks. Mostly monks have been helping me out.
But got to 6 just barely. Put on couple more items. Some dex4 gloves. I got deadly on the wis4 goggles, and accuracy5 on the tiara, so I'm hitting pretty good now. Got exotic prof, so I'm at +31 with the khopesh. I was having trouble hitting the kobolds at 3 and 4 using the khopesh, so I switched to a longsword. I found a couple decent ones leveling. Oh ya, the vorpal is ml2. I thought it 4 but it's usable in korThos. But I got a low AC with no shield. Like 21 or 23. No epic past lives on vish, so other than 36 pt build, he's like first lifer. Tho he does have 3 cleric lives. And two human lives for +1 wis. and +6 tomes, so he's not totally gimp. But he needs reaper points. It will hurt later on.
Ya, but I been doing pretty good damage with the khopesh. And using soundburst to good effect. But it's just low level kobolds. Will see as I level. Otherwise, I really prefer running elite. I mean, with the reaper nerfs to self healing, it really negates soloing as a cleric. In elite, I don't have so many hp, that a few heals really helps. But in reaper its like no heal at all. And I use a fighter hire and don't tag a cleric, even tho I do most of the fighting. I use the hire mostly as a decoy. Keeps some of the aggro off me.
But the khopesh and swf is going ok. I'm learning the moves a little better. Just got Cleve so that will go in rotation. And I got the one bird attack, go for the eyes. But like ppl been saying, the bird is a delayed attack. And you can just about kill the mob before it attacks. But I've been trying to test it on bosses, since they the only thing have enough hp to test on. But it's got a flourish with the blade opening and a spin. Looks like a cleave. But I'll keep testing it, but I've not had much confirmation with it yet.
So, climbing out of low levels. Now to 6 I can do 3bc, and strart hitting the circuit. 6 is good enough for 8. Hopefully I'll catch some teams, I really shine in a group, what being a healer. Looking forward, I was gonna go fighter at 7 for great cleave. But I think igonna go 7 cleric first for raise dead. I'll have that for Von's. Besides I don't have the ap for stalwart d. So I'll delay til after 8. And then I get slavers gear.
Will post some stats at 8.

In other notes
Keeping Kil at 30. I only have one set of tr gear.

Tilomere

07-28-2018, 02:47 PM

Vish

07-28-2018, 05:55 PM

Mmm, I would think if you went handwraps for stunning fist and monk-water stance with wisdom to AC it might synergy a bit better?

Fire stance with jidtz-tetka bracers for 50% HAMP also bumps up your self-healing a bit.

Alright, catching flies from left field
Ok I like monk
Would do a clonk if it fit
But Handwraps come from monk level, and capstones
And this is an implosion build
So 17 levels
Leaves me 3 monk
Have to spend 3 feats stat for dex, and basically have no wraps dps. Like 1 die
So it sounds good. Has the best synergy
But has no dps
So I don't think I'll evar build a clonk imploder. Might go that way on a caster build, but not on a melee build. It would even be a quarter staff.

Ps
Besides, I'm gonna aasimar duality Kil next,
So I'll have my 30 monk
And my 30 fleric

Vish

07-29-2018, 08:57 AM

Mmm, I would think if you went handwraps for stunning fist and monk-water stance with wisdom to AC it might synergy a bit better?

Fire stance with jidtz-tetka bracers for 50% HAMP also bumps up your self-healing a bit.

Ok, caught this ball,
And it was signed by Tilo,
So I looked at it again

So say 16.5 on duality
Lose 2.5 from 20 monk
Lose 3 from Shinto core 5/6
So still 11.5 for a three splash
1 from 3 monk
7 from duality
1.5 from fleetwood
1.5 from dance of flowers
Says 11
is that good enough?
It would take 30 levels to feat
I'll break it down
But next,

Vish

07-29-2018, 09:00 AM

Level 8
Str 23
Dex 19
Con 28
Int 22
Wis 37
Cha 27
Hp 200
Hamp 20
Sp 503
Pos 112
AC 36
Dodge 4/4
Fort 22
Reflex 12
Will 27
Bab 6
Doublestrike 5
Melee speed 14
Melee power 9
Sr 0
Fort 105
Prr 38
Mrr 11

Gear
Head rng sheltering8 acc5
Neck slavers 5con1 resist4
Eyes rng wis4 deadly3
Trinket slavers symbol w falselife15
Body guard of the shogun
Cloak rng int4 dodge3
Bracer slavers 5str1 deadly4 heavy fort
Belt cc doublestrike5 natarmor5
Ring1 slavers 5wis1 devotion70
Ring2 slavers 5cha1 rad70
Boots rng ff speed4
Gloves rng dex4 heal5
+1 vorpal khopesh +34 to hit +20 damage
No orb yet

Ap
23 bird man
6 aasimar

Notes
Ok the eyes will be replaced at 11 with gs goggles. I found a ml9 helm that had sheltering9 acc6 on it. So I may wear that instead of executioners. Got a rng cloak that I don't know what else to slot there. Don't have a mysterious. Don't have an orb yet. I'm going to farm slavers for a mutilator. Need to see which one that comes out of. Ran it yesterday on elite with about 4. The 10s just tore it up. I was doing ok, but I'm under level for rezzing. That's fixed now I'm 8 and a 7/1 split. Can scroll raise dead.
Wearing guard of the shogun. Decent heavy armor. I got it out of threnal. Will put on the plate at 10. Then the scales at 14. Otherwise got a 3 pc might set. No real adds. It would be better if the shackles were dex instead of str, I may craft a new pair. Then I could go with gloves with assassinate healamp and insightful dex. Better for this build. But got a slavers wis and cha and con. And a trinket. So I got pretty good melee gear on. I was wearing some cc ml5 medium armor that had fort and hamp. But don't need that because I got ml8 heavy fort. Lose the hamp tho, would go on the gloves. Because I wear this to 13, then put on cc.?*
I will have to check for more vorpal khopeshes. I got some on a mule. For ml 15 for improved. And maybe for mid level to up the enhancement. So far it's doing like 20-30 damage a swing. And I swing fairly fast. That is signature of swf. Get crits to 90, tho I don't see them too much. Get a fair amount of vorpals, especially at the lower levels. I switch to maces sometimes for skeletons, because I'm not specced to destroy, so I just get frozen undead. Still have to kill them. And I use a mace against oozes, just because I don't have a muck on vish. Oh well, I got them somewhere, but mostly I just don't fight oozes.
I just got to 8 and put on slavers gear. So far 200 hp and 500 sp is decent. I use a lot of Csw. And I got 4 loh, and luck of olladra. So I got 5 full heals, and then casting heals. And I also cast soundburst. Having better luck with it this go round, but I'm still seeing it not affect a lot. Guess that's because fort save. But my spell pool hold up pretty good. And I have decent pos for low level. I just need some more heal amp.
AC went up to 36 from like 26 or so. I guess I have ok prr at 38. I seem not to take big chunck of damage. So in elite at least, I can manage my damage with heals. In reaper, I have to rely on the loh, or luck, to save me in a pinch. But soloing elite with a hire is totally doable. Can prob duo r1. Usually need somebody to heal me.
So the ap so far has been all bird man and aasimar. Got the core3 in each, and deadly insight now at 2 min. That adds about 6 damage per swing. Used it and saw avg damage go up to like 30. So it's little bit useful. Will add to my tacticals for dire charge, so at 30 with an 80+ wisdom, should be pretty decent dps add. I'm prob gonna save great cleave. So far even rare to cleave and even rare to bird attack. But I was running scoundrels run, and took off by myself and ran into some minotaurs. And I was using the go for the eyes on them, and I was getting the blind icon. So it's working. It's an open blade flourish, pretty cool animation with a blade. But I'm going to keep putting ap into bird, so I can take tier 5 at 12, and test out the special attacks, and see the cooldowns. Because otherwise I guess I can put some into radiant for destroy undead. Tho I haven't been doing necro. And I'm going 9 cleric at least so I can cast raise dead and scroll heal. Then maybe 2-3 fighter with great cleave. It'd mostly be about the prr mrr gain. +25. It delays the holy sword. Maybe save it for after 15. That's my inclination. Then add the hit points in 16-17. Means implosion at 20. Oh well, for epics.
But I'm liking the fact that I can solo elite at least. I've been lowest man in a lot of other quests so far, and just piked. But I know I can contribute melee dps on this build, and still supply heals. So a pretty strong combination for reaper. And I'm starting to see more clerics, so having two in the group is not unheard of.
But the bird man is performing excellently so far.
Sqwak!

Trig_of_Cowtown

07-29-2018, 04:06 PM

This is fascinating stuff, Vish. Please keep posting updates!

Vish

07-31-2018, 03:21 AM

Level 10
Jumped into a group running high reaper. Like 6 on Skyros jewel. Tagged along, and then they wanted to run a spine. And mentioned they were gonna do a von56. But I hadn't ran von2 yet, so I dropped group and ran with another pug that just happened to be doing that quest. They were just zerging it on elite, so I did the prisoner, and stayed for von3. It's easy running cleric as a healer, you just tag behind and watch. And get the loot.
So we did 2and3 and I saw they were in von4, and I just waited it out at the tavern. I didn't do the tavern quests, I kinda leveled through them, but I usually do them, for the favor. So I was hanging out and got a tell the lfm was up. So we went. A r3 von5, kinda short manned, but with a lot of studs. So I'm just the cleric right? Usually multi lifers decimate content. And we were doing it at level. So it went pretty good, we made it through with only one hiccup. In the lava room, we had guy jump and didn't make it to the platform. Died in the lava. And since we were short manned we sacrificed a hero. And he pulled the switch. And two of us got through. But on the other side a reaper spawned on the bridge were I was and aggroed me. I wasn't expecting a mob, and didn't have my ghost bane equipped. So I backpedalled switch weapons and went after him. But he had me at half hit points, and I tried to back up instead of heal through it. Only thing saves me in that situation is luck of olladra. But I was too late. Dead cleric. So we didn't have enough to go forward, and they had to regroup. Second time they got through and I rezzed and we continued. Oh ya. That reaper was killed, by the bow monk using fear arrows on it. She almost died, but slowly whittled it down.
So the rest of von5 went smooth, until the end fight. For some reason, the golum was not dying to our attacks, like it was regenerating. We had the dogs being kited in the back. I mean we killed some but I guess they respawn. So we talked it, made sure no one was using fire, and somehow eventually it started taking damage. But it was bugged for a few minutes. Unless that's some unknown mechanic I didn't know about. Those fights have never lasted very long in all the von5s I've done.
Then tonite, I ran a Stormcleave and stomvaulds, and then a white plume mountain. Had five people. I didn't know how tough it would be. I mean, I felt I could almost solo r1 legendary on Kil, but I didn't know if it would be obscene. Because we had some weaker group members. We had one strong monk. And actually I fight pretty well. But we went through it on r1, and it seemed pretty easy. We had a few deaths, but most of it was easily handled. I have coordinated strike now. It's the aoe bird attack. It's a cleave with delayed blast. So you gotta lead with it to get mobs in a group by the time it goes off. So I was practicing with it. Saw the animation. Didn't really see the damage. Oh well that happens in group fights. I may solo some to test it better. But you gotta lead with it.
So we did all three crests, all the boss fights were asker than anticipated. And got to the end with four efreet. That too was a quick battle. Then we completed and got our loot. I'm telling ya there's a first time bonus. I pulled a mythic +2 whelm, and a spark of memory. Now I got me a new skelly beater. I'll use it for the next couple levels and test it against the +3 vorpal khopesh I bought. Found it on the auction house cheap. But at 12 I take ic slash, so I'll prob be better off with blades. But I'll test it.
Other than that, I picked up some more spells. Notably deathward. And divine power. That gives me full bab. So I got two buff spells, that and divine favor. And eventually holy sword.
Also, at 10, put on the barovian plate. That junked AC up to 46. So quite an improvement. And with full bab prr is 52. So I'm getting decent tough. For no shield. Still lacking orb. Have to farm slavers. Another go round tomorrow. I been making big xp from 8-11. And maybe to do a ravenloft run. I can turn pretty good, I just don't have enough in radiant to destroy. Need another level. Then I'll lose it to refigured for 12. But should get it back by 13. Ya, so stalwart needs 4 levels. So I'll go to 15 as a 1 splash. Besides the cleave is enough so far. I don't mass melee that much. And the bird attack is a cleave too. So maybe I have an extra feat...
Took quicken at 9. Eventually I'll need it.

Zretch

07-31-2018, 01:46 PM

Level 10
mythic +2 whelm, and a spark of memory

You pulled a spark of memory from a heroic chest?

Vish

08-12-2018, 07:18 AM

Level 13
Took a week off
Updater problems
Seems I can't download with any kind of busy server
So I took a week off and came back Friday night, and it updated fine.
So been running some last couple days. Ran ravenloft. I had points into destroy undead, and my turning seemed to do ok. I cast seek eternal rest if I'm doing undead. Had to redbox the whole thing, missed out on a couple in c2.
But at 12 I took ic slash, and put points into 10 mp. When I hit 13 I took burst, and 3 points into slayer bird. Haven't tested it out yet.
Got heal at 12. Put quicken on it. It's a decent self heal in r1. But it's not as good as the hands. And I've got luck of olladra as extra emergency heal.
So far I'm finding I'm a decent fighter. Doing 40 avg with a nice vorpal khopesh I have. Vorpal and draining, and it's got vampirism on it. So some slight healing. With killer instinct I see damage goto 50. And crits are around 150. But I don't see them that often.
But I put on 13 gear. Some cannith crafted stuff. Hp around 350, sp to 1100, that's because of gs goggles, and AC of 53. Still wearing the barovian plate. Got cleric armor at 14.
Going to 14/1 with the build. So I can get holy sword. Then maybe the last two fighter levels, but I find I don't cleave that much, and don't know if great cleave is best investment. Don't know what else to take... I could wait for fighter levels last two levels. Then get my stalwart in time for epics. But get implosion by 18. So far I'm doing fine. I die a few times, but that's more from zerging and not being able to self heal in reaper. But I've got a decent spell pool, so I can afford heals.
Not too much else of note. I still cast soundburst, but by 10 warlocks have tentacles, and it's cast more often. I lead with the bird aoe, then cleave, then go for tgts. So far I'm holding up pretty well toe to toe with champs. And at 11 I got spectral gloves, so ghostly on all my attacks.
I'll post a stat breakdown later this morning.
Oh ya. Cc gear at 13. May have to craft some assassinate hamp insdex gloves. Pretty particular to this build, but let's see if they don't add assassinate to quivering palm.

Vish

08-12-2018, 03:01 PM

Level 13
Reaper
Str 26
Dex 22
Con 34
Int 27
Wis 43
Cha 33
Hp 477
Hamp 35
Sp 1131
Pos 152
AC 53
Dodge 6/6
Fort 27
Reflex 18
Will 32
Bab 10
Doublestrike 0
Melee speed 16
Melee power 15
Sr 0
Fort 110
Prr 55
Mrr 20

Ap
35 bird man
11 radiant
6 aasimar

Gear
Head rng sheltering9 accuracy6
Neck cc 7con3 devotion87 falselife20
Eyes gs concord opp
Trinket cc spell focus3
Body barovian plate
Cloak phase cloak
Bracers cc str7 sheltering17 heavy fort
Belt cc dodge7 natarmor7 prot4
Ring1 slavers 5wis1 heal10
Ring2 cc 7cha3
Boots rng speed6 ff
Gloves spectral
+4 vorpal khopesh of draining with vampirism +45 to hit +28 damage w pa
Whelm for skeles +44 +27

Notes
Reaper numbers. Normal hp about 350.
Gear. Don't really need phase cloak, got wizardry on goggles. But evoc bonuses, tho I'm not a caster. And need new helm with better accuracy. I'll look. And eventually the wisdom ring will be replaced by a prowess. And cleric armor at 14. Otherwise gear is good enough. Don't have doublestrike, but it's low in heroics. Have a healers belt, but don't really need the devotion. Pos at 152. I seem to heal fine with heals and Csw and ccw.
Haven't decided to craft assassinate gloves yet. I'll look.
Did try out the killer bird, and it works. Just there is always delay in using bird. So it's like another lead attack. Use on high value tgts, like champs.
got 35 into bird man. 2 more cores and the other two tier5s will make 41. More into aasimar as I get ap. another point wisdom, and regen hands at 16.
14 almost 15. Did lords march and Gianthold.
I'm enjoying the build so far. It's a fighting cleric. Just what vish always wanted to be. But could never realize until we got wisdom conversion. I would rather be a radiant, but I'd rather be free dps with heals, so radiant just doesn't fit. The khopesh is doing ok. I'll have to see how much difference holy sword makes. 2 more levels.

Vish

08-14-2018, 11:59 PM

Level 16
Ok going 15/1. Got holy sword, got full bab. Fighting pretty hard, dying regularly to test the toon. Big advantages are now 7 use of regen hands, and death pact. I'm still a little too Zerg, memories of the duality monk.
But I've been working the tier5s. The killer bird works, but you gotta isolate and lead with it. It usually kills. Kills champs too. And using the aoe bird. That's another leader. It seems to go off whether I hit or not. Not sure, I need a lot more practice with these attacks. And then there's the heal one. Not really that good, but maybe in a cycle. Again I'm just spot testing them now, and haven't found any kind of rotation yet.
And with holy sword, my crits are over 200. But I'm still not seeing a lot of crits, but good enough. Now I'm in higher heroics and everything has lots more hp. And it takes a while to whittle some mobs down without the crit. Doing like 60 otherwise. So lotta swings. But that give me time to measure my hp, and measure my defense. 51 AC with like 60 prr. So like I said, I die regularly. I'm learning the build and what tricks I have. Still combat cast, still play the healer, but most of the time I am attacking.
But better than I expected. It will also get better as I play it more, and better yet when I get to epics. I only got like 500 hp reaper, so I wait till about 150 health to heal. But that gets me killed sometimes. I usually use hands, they heal for like 800 elite or full heal in reaper. I use heal spells to top up. Unless there is hire or another healer in the group. But that's hit or miss. So much so far has been self heals in reaper. Also, gained couple points, up to 13.
Ya, gonna forgo the last two levels for fighter. So I won't have stalwart until 20. Even tho I could use the hp. But would rather have implosion at 18. I'm thinking of taking maximize at 18, then taking gswf at 19 as fighter. The maximize would be for burst, which is only cleric tree I'm using. Kinda sad warpriest sucks so bad. But I do use bursts, kinda of as a topper for the other toons. Works when there's melee in the group. But most don't have lots hp so a good heal works just fine. But bursts are only thing makes me look like a cleric.
Gonna save the assassinate gloves for 21. I'll get more use of them. Oh ya, that's the difference. Max dex allowed by heavy armor. I put on the planar focus trinket and swapped to my dex gloves, but my AC didn't go up. Oh well, some heal amp and reflex saves.
Also, gotta go looking for improved vorpal khopesh. I know I have some, will have to look on my khopesh mule. Just haven't yet, kinda leveled up fast past few days. Or I could use that bastard sword from tethymar? I got like two of them. Ok another mule to check. I got lotta loots to stash anyway. Pulled a couple helms from the disciples chain. And got some loot I need to feed to sentient.
Ok I may post at 18 after I test implosion. Or I may just wait until I'm 20. Depends how I get along this next week.

Vish

08-17-2018, 01:24 PM

Level 18
Ok took 18 and went implosion
This changes the direction of the build. From dps heals, to caster cleric. Mostly ran a few quests, but I led a high road,with some other average toon, and gave implosion a wide run.
Found that I aggro then gather mobs, then toss out a quickened implosion. Most of the time it goes off, but I've had a few instances where it did not. Further investigating why, I don't think I got hit and it cancelled. But it's a different game. You stand there and watch mobs get eaten. Its much better than dps. And it's a relatively quick recycling spell, so you can usually cast it each new mob group.
Like I said I was running high road quests, and it completely changed my dynamic. I also got destruction, so a single tgt instakiller. But it doesn't always work reliably. Then there's soundburst, for dps mobs. So I'm finding I go more cleric than dps now. Instead of running in and killing stuff, I stand back and gather mobs and hit implosion. Kills very nicely. When it goes off. Will need more practice, but it's a serious time saver over swf.
Overall, I'm finding this to be a very versatile build. It's got dps, it's got casting, and it's got heals. Not a radiant, but going aasimar for regen loh is the saver here. Mostly to save your own butt, but saves others too. And a quickened heal spell for most other needs. Haven't needed to cast any mass cures, doesn't seem you ever get enough melees in a group for it to be practical. Usually one toon gets the aggro, and you just have to keep him alive. So easy to do with a heal.
And of course being a wisdom build, you get full sp, so my sp pool at 18 is like 1600. I find I have plenty mana to cast implosion and heals, and there is still loh.
At 18 I took maximize. Just testing the waters on this. Since with bird attacks and a cleave I seem to be well situated. Don't seem to need the great cleave, at least hasnt been too many mobs where I'm just cleaving away. That's what implosion is for now, and just mopping up what's left with swf. So I'll take gswf at ftr2 at 19, then stalwart d at 20. Should only add about 100hp, but the 25 prr mrr will really help. Also put some ap into max db, and that got AC up to 57. Really I wish I could run with a shield, but thought swf would be better dps. Plus, I'll be running with a sf orb at 30, so it fits the casting side of the build. But it's mostly gonna be caster with good secondary dps. So some use in boss fights.
Ya, I can't believe the dynamic has changed. With implosion I got an aoe instakiller, it takes some time to work, but it's much better for the build. It makes me real happy this is working out as planned.
Also, the build has bursts for group healing, the maximize seemed to double the amount of heals, and there is turning too, which drops mp on the build. I have like 20 turns, so like an unlimited amount. Overall a sweet cleric build.
Will post again at 20 for divine crusader stats.

Vish

08-18-2018, 08:50 AM

Level 20
Str 28
Dex 29
Con 37
Int 29
Wis 55
Cha 35
Hp 743
Hamp 82
Sp 1998
Pos 177
AC 57
Dodge 6/6
Fort 40
Reflex 29
Will 50
Bab 15/20
Doublestrike 0
Melee speed 38
Melee power 46
Sr 0
Fort 116
Prr 111
Mrr 49

Ap
43 bird man
15 stalwart d
13 radiant
9 aasimar

Imp vorpal of feeding 2w1d8 16-20 x4 +60 +58

Notes
Finally made it to 20
This was quite the journey
Fighting hard and casting heals on yourself just to stay alive. A fairly decent fighter will heals and a couple tricks. The bird attacks are not inherent yet, they kinda seem extra. An instakiller, an aoe and a heal. I don't use the 10% damage. May take it later when I'm raiding, for boss beat down. But I don't find it that useful for the ap.
So only gear that changed, was a ring of prowess, and put on the executioners helm. Still need a better cloak, but I have a mysterious at 21. So I'll use that. Also, found a paralyzer khopesh, and a ml15 improved vorpal. I used the paralyzer for a while, and it works good in elite, but not as deadly as the vorpal. I'll use that until I get a thunder forged at 24.
So far I tested the dps in an EE fens. Saw I was doing 100 damage. Then with epic moment, zeal, I was doing much better, and getting crits of 800-1000. So dps is decent. I was seeing 10k mobs, so I needed a boost. 38%speed, 46 mp, on 2w. Not a lot. But got good threat and multi. I saw 15-20 when I was fighting, but in the display it gave me 16-20. So I don't know if that was some combat buff.
Got killer instinct. Don't really remember to use it that much. Right now I got zeal and consecration with crusade. So stand and fight. But mostly ki is for boss fights, even tho it runs 2min. That's about the fight window. Holy sword is a 17, and full bab is like 2? So I cast favor and power at same time. But again, mostly for boss fights. Like fully charging up. Likewise only group buff I drop is mass deathward.
Ya only spells I buff when I enter are holy sword, death pact and mass ward. And I use the killer bird, usually if I got one mob on me, and it's up, I'll assassinate. Otherwise if I'm wading in, I'll cleave and cleave the aoe bird. Get them back to back. I got the single tgt blind, but never use it. And the heal bird hasn't seen much use. It would be a good situational attack, but ive not found its use yet. Since I'm cleric I'll use either loh or a heal spell. But I'll keep seeing if it's useful. Maybe not for me. That would give me ap for the 10%. Maybe I'll test.
But the ap split is tight. It's nice having +2 to all stats. I use it on at least 4. It makes up for no completionist on vish. 43 bird man. 15 stalwart, for the extra con point, so for death pact. That offsets it. Ya the stalwart d is nice, I was not expecting 750 hp. But that's a fair amount at 20. Not sure how much I'll end up with.maybe 1250? Or 1500? Ya prob not on vish. I think I had 1200 as an aa. No, I had 1400 with him before when he had stalwart d. So prob 1400. That'll be decent. Maybe 150 prr? I'll prob play more secondary fighter as I go thru epics. Because so far in fens it was problem of staying alive long enough to do some damage. So when you're healing you're not fighting, and that's the conundrum of the cleric. Won't die but can't kill anything. But with zeal I was tearing it up pretty good. So my single tgt dps is good.
And I was running dps test mostly. And timing for consecration. Haven't tested implosion yet. It was EE, so tough measure for a 20. Ya about my twists. I only got 3 on vish. So I took cocoon, always good to have extra heal to cycle, and 10%sp. so I have 2k sp. and got a 3rd but don't know what to put in it. Maybe evocation3? That's a 2 twist. I'll get 1 more at 30, so I was thinking of twisting extra action boost and haste boost from ld, since I'll be running a prowess. Otherwise I can go ld and twist consecration. I'll play with it. Gonna stick to divine crusader for a bit first. It's got +5 wisdom. I don't think I have enough points for a tier4 twist. Maybe. For sense weakness. Guess I need to check my DCs. Oh ya, was gonna post bird DCs, I forgot, so I'll wait till 21, when I craft those assassinate gloves. Prob later today. Only need a dailys to get me to 21.
Oh ya, ap. so 13 into radiant for +1 wis, and destroy and burst. Got empower heal and maximize on it. So it does pretty decent heals. It's like free group heals. I use this as extra heal for when we gather or paused, to let ppl know I do it. Then they tend to stick closer. Got 9 into aasimar. +2 wis and 7 regen loh. And hamp. It's good ap. if I had racial I'd take it to the 10% hp level. 15 or 17? Idk that'll never happen on vish. I've got 2 human lives, and this one asimar. So just the +1 wis. so 9 ap is best investment. Ya I'm surprised I got a hamp of 82. That'll go up at 21 with gloves and cloak. Mrr too. So it'll help in reaper if I'm running it. I'm not too strong, so I'll be happy with EE.
So in general a squishy toon. That has to combat heal to stay alive. But it's a dance. Just got consecrate, and used it some, enough to know it can keep me alive while I fight. So just to get used to it. And zeal, for epic fighting. Can't do much about AC. Got better armors. He has heavies, since hes always been a cleric. So I got the best armors. And cc at 21. I got a chieftain, but I'm running the gs goggles at +6 for the 200 sp. ya running heroic gear in epics. Lol.
Get bogw at 24. Another forc of cc. Will prob work better than soundburst, and go hand in hand with implosion. Since I been using that in heroics, and sometimes it just doesn't go off, and sometimes it's delayed. So it's a weird spell. Reliable but not always.
But I can always play the healbot. Because I jumped into an orchard slayer. And couldn't handle the mobs, they were just killing me, I ran away, until I found the group. Then I just healbot and let them kill. Traditional cleric. Stand and watch. It's much different healing from combat. You really gotta know what's going on. Watching redbars, knowing kinda where ppl are. And keeping yourself alive, which is usually the hardest part. But the khopesh is tearing it up. So I'll continue being the fighting cleric.

Vish

08-19-2018, 04:44 AM

Level 21
Repah
Str 31
Dex 23
Con 43
Int 22
Wis 61
Cha 40
Hp 1001
Hamp 140
Sp 2142
Pos 216
AC 64
Dodge 6/6
Fort 47
Reflex 33
Will 57
Bab 16/21
Doublestrike 12
Melee speed 38
Melee power 43
Sr 0
Fort 136
Prr 123
Mrr 81

Gear
Helm cc wiz203 resist8
Neck cc 10con4 devotion115 falselife30
Eyes cc 10wis4
Triket planar or cc sf3 or Vom
Armor scales of the exiles
Cloak mysterious
Bracers cc sheltering25 fort115 str10 prot6
Belt cc natarmor10 doublestike11 insdodge4 good luck
Ring1 prowess
Ring2 cc 10cha4 exccha1
Boots rng speed8 ff
Gloves cc ass5 hamp40 insdex4

Notes
Crafted the gloves. Put assassinate on them. However, when checking the dc, the displays on some bird attacks is not right. It shows correctly for strike the eyes. But for aoe and kill, it's missing the +3 from tree, and +5 from gloves. Don't know if it works right, it just doesn't display right. Will have to bug report it, and I think I saw a thread. Will check.
At 22 get motu spider queen armor. Better AC. Don't think I have better til 28. Just hit 22 put this on. AC to 66. It has less mdb. But 20 vitality. So my hp went to 921. Pretty good for low epics.
Ya the 21 gear. Carries me to 28 when I get some slavers. Then ravenloft at 29. Don't have the goggles. Built for it, but that was on Kil. He has raid loot.
But juking it to 24. Then bogw, and thunder forged khopesh. I'll lose the vorpal. I'll look mule again now that I'm epic. But no gear changes. Ya the 21 cc is powerful loot. Bis really. But there's some new epic quests that have new loot, at lower epic. But I don't think I can better crafted at this point. I need a named khopesh. That I can prowess. Got 5 slots on my vish gem. So enough.
I've got several bugs I'm running with. Divine power, the spell, doesn't cast for me. It does the animation, but no sp are taken, and no buff icon displays. It's like a ghost spell. I could of sworn it was working in lower heroics. Idk is it something to do with divine crusader? Duh I answered my own question. Core1 gives bab equal to character level. But in display it's reading 16/22. Shouldnt it be 22/22? Something wacky with bab? Because that affects prr on heavy armor. I will investigate best I can.
The other bug is my turns. They seem to be regenerating. But I don't have that many points into radiant. I was running a da tonite, and I was bursting, I have 25 turns now. And I used a few, then eventually one came back. Because I was standing around. So I'll take that. Man I'm answering my own questions. That's divine crusader too. Endless turning. So see, that makes it a cornerstone of the melee build. Consecration and bursts. Because in that da, which I use for testing ground, I was bursting for little over 300. So about third hp. That's in normal thru elite. With 200 pos and max and empower, it's pretty juked up. So I get a lot of mileage out of it. Free heals. Group aoe.
Ya I guess I gotta include hamp in there. At 140 that's pretty decent. So good self heals. Now I got 900 hp I gotta check my heal spells. Well anyway I should be able to get pos to 800. Had that before. But hands are way over the top, and they regen too. And I got 2000 sp for 50pt spells.
I was thinking I'm going to be using Flightfoot. So maybe instead of blinding speed at 27 I take something else. And at 30 too, since I don't have completionist. Prob take arcane insight. And maybe embolden. Or I could fit in great cleave. Will ponder as I level. Because really I'm setting this up to be a caster cleric. Implosion and frog will be goto. Dps will be good but secondary. For like boss fight. Because I'm not slotting doublestrike. Lose 20% there. Oh well, you gotta compromise for DCs.
I should give a breakdown on skills. Because I put some points into diplomacy, and some into jump. Plus balance, heal, and Umd. I had enough skill points to get everything I needed. But at least I'm scrolling teleport.
Running a flame sphere. Since I never got the slavers one. But that's good because consecration goes off fire. Have like 200 fire.
And I got oc at 21. Looked at it. It gives a +1 mult on 19-20. I thought it was a range add. Oh well, that explains the higher crits. Means I'm getting x5. Don't think I'll get better. Not running in ld.
Oh ya, and other thing I missed was epic power. That provides for 30mp. And universal, tho I don't count that as much. And spell efficacy, so you don't need a Pansophic. Not using it anyways. So it'll add up at 30.
Will try to run some reaper. Feel I may goto gh soon.
One other story. Piked some r10 amber today. Got me to 22 and 14 reaper points. Good to know people ;)

xenon211

08-19-2018, 12:01 PM

Vish

08-20-2018, 09:00 PM

Just my opinion on falconry ...

I didn't care for it much on the melee life I tried it with. The bird attacks just don't mesh well with any kind of melee rotation. I did however, like it a lot on my last life (20 cleric, morninglord AA). That worked very well to mix in implosions, G.Command, destruction, and slay living. It worked really well in conjunction with the t3 Soul Magic, t5 Moonbow, and Morninglord's t3 Fey Energy Tap. I found myself with a lot of extra spell points and seldom needed shrines, maybe cause the cc saved me from having to heal group members much.

I only went t4 falconry, but the -50% fort bird debuff is really strong, loved it. The trip and blind were also quite useful on ranged attacks where you have more time with kiting than on melee where you need the effects NOW! It was a fun life with a lot of solid CC, healing, or offensive casting as needed.

Ya, I just got done running an aa build
But that was before falconry
It's what I've heard, that the melee attacks don't mesh,
And that it's better suited to ranged
Prob is I don't want to go back to bow
I found that an excellent support role, as cc cleric
Great on teams, a multiplier
Could hang in high reaper
But I always wanted vish to be a fighting cleric,
So I'm doing the khopesh and orb
Still be a caster, but have decent dps
And the bird attacks don't really fit in
Theyre delayed, and you need fast results
I like the killer bird, I like the aoe
But that's it, I don't use the others
They are on too long cooldown
Not intuitive
But as a tier 4 for killer instinct on a wisdom build,
Then the tree is a goldmine.
Don't even need to turn the bird on.
So like 23 pts for tier4 on a monk, or cleric fighter,
Is pretty good.
But to max it you gotta go caster cleric too
That's why I only splashed 3 fighter on the bird man
Still getting implosion.
And I'm using it in epics, it works sometime
But I'm out on the bird attacks
I guess you hafta expect a delay when using a bird
Makes sense
Just don't play too easy
That's my two cents
So far,
I may take out the heal bird, which I don't use
And take the 10%. Ya I'll do that tonite
So birds good for tier4

In other notes
Made it to 24
Took bogw
Need to grab my tf khopesh
Also ran the platinum quest
Rerolled and pulled a ml21 bastard sword
So maybe I'll prowess it and use it.
So far eh is easy, EE takes teamwork,
And I haven't been running reaper
Seeing a lot of first lifers at 20
Maybe new people do play this game...

Vish

08-22-2018, 02:32 PM

Level 26
Took bogw and pswf
Haven't been having too good o luck with implosion. Guess my DCs are lagging. But I won't have sf gear til 28 and 29, so a little ways away.
So far goto has been swf with khopesh. However, I pulled a platinum bastard sword, and have been using that. Little more base damage, since its 1d10, and got the blunt damage on it. Slotted with hopeful gem, but it's only got 3 slots. I thought 5. Oh well, that means some basic farming to get it up to 5. Because I slotted 3 prowess, and got 2 more waiting. That will take some runs of ravenloft. But it's not best crit damage, seeing crits of 600-800 vs like 1000. But it's got a cool shimmer that glows across the screen. A very different lighting effect than I've ever seen before. It twinkles a purple color, and I kinda like it. Using it so far over the khopesh. It's doing me decent.
Other than that, switched out the heal bird for the 10% damage bird. I dont see what good this really is. It's only a 10 sec buff. For 10%. Seems like it should be 20 or 30 sec. I may recommend that. At least it would be useful in a boss attack. Haven't used it much, will test further.
Also, found out that core6 of bird man doesn't grant freedom of movement. Was caught in some friendly sleet storms, and I was slipping around. So I started a thread on that. That and DCs are not displaying properly. Don't know if they are applying properly. Hard to test that.
Been running eh dailys and some other misc quests. Was doing an EE tethymar with under level toons, and we were dying badly. With a full group, of under level, we were just able to manage. But at first it was a couple of us, and in third times a charm, we're getting ass whipped by drow. I used bogw and implosion, but had no effect. Well that was a 33, and I was only 24. So kind of an extreme test.
Now I got 27-30 to look forward too. Will have to craft some slavers, and I don't have the richtens goggles, nor a calamity. Got the runes for calamity almost. When I get vish to 30, I'll park him there for raids. So next few levels will be about getting gear set up.
Ya eh is easy, EE needs teamwork, and I ran a Druids deep r1 yesterday, and that wasn't so bad with a full group. Now I'm 26, so I'll prob go for a reaper Gianthold. And whatever else I can get myself into. Only 15 reaper points, so dailys at cap will help that along.
But I've got over 1000 base hp now at 26, so should see 1300 or more at 30. New gear will make some difference. Everything working out ok otherwise. I've been pretty impressed how tough a fighter he is for a low AC. Can take a lot of hits and has the heals to keep himself alive. In that tethymar run, was backing off and doing healbot a little more. Ppl were dying kinda badly. But I've years in the saddle as a cleric, and it's actually a lot less work than fighting. But safer for the group.
Will post stories as I come across them.

Vish

08-25-2018, 11:24 AM

Level 29
Juked it to 29. Wasn't too hard getting here. Would have been better if that wgu didn't bug out. That would have been like 200k+. But xp seemed pretty easy to come by. I just floated the lfm panel, often app to higher level groups. Everybody welcomes a cleric. But I'm not too awesome yet.
Took 29. Oh ya. I had hit 29 earlier in the day, and wanted to take dire charge. But it wasn't showing up. So I didn't know what the problem was for sure. But not all Vishs Ed filled out. Mostly in arcane, since he's never played one. But found out you need 3 martial. I had ld and gmof filled. But shadowdancer was short 4 pts. So I didn't know how much do that was. So I just changed destinies and ran some dailys. It filled out pretty fast I think. It was full before I got 100k on EE for slavers pt2. So anyway, I leveled to 29 and there was dire charge.?*
So I haven't played it yet. And I haven't geared for ravenloft. I'm still using a mix of old slavers gear. I got the con necklace. That I can sorc. But I'll have to make 2 new pieces. I got a wisdom shackles and a charisma ring. And the symbol. Ya need to get a hood. I been leveling pretty fast so all I did was jigsaw when I got to 28. Oh and I put on the healer belt. That raised pos to 475. And put on legendary prowess. And am wearing scales of avarice. Good heavy armor. But I'll switch to exiles next. Still wearing goggles for the insightful wis. and the gloves don't get new til 30.
I've got to switch out to 29 gear. Armor. Cloak. Belt. Orb. Boots. Then pull spinnerette off Kil. And craft two new slavers pieces. Hope I have the mats. Don't know where the cloak is or the orb. Have to check Kil, and the mule. Same with the belt. Lotta times I just put them in shared storage, but it's kinda over full. Need to buy more bank space. ?*And then there's calamity. Will have to raid for that. I can pay for the goggles I got enough baba runes. So this builds gonna take a bit to put together. I think I got the orb on Kil. And I'll have to go digging for everything else. Although I know I have the armor in bank. But it's not mythic.
Ya mostly been running 28. Switched over to the thunder forged khopesh. Was seeing avg 200 damage? And crits back over 1000. Switched out the dstrike belt for the healer belt. It was getting my role more to be the healbot if necessary, so I went with higher pos. if you're not melee as much, you don't even notice it. But you do notice the 2500 hp heals. That's becomes more important as toons climb towards or over 2000 hp. One spell full heal. When I switched over to shadowdancer I had ddoor. That's coolest part of that Ed. But i was missing consecration. Somebody else had it in the slavers group, I think it was one of the warlocks. But I was finishing martial, and didn't bring it. Oh well, it was only EE, and they were chewing through everything.
Oh ya. The 10% bird damage. Puts an arrow above the tgts head. Real cool graphic, so it advertises. At least I hope others can see it. But it's good for boss fights. That and crusade. So that's 20% stacking damage burst. Still needs to be more.
But the best thing I like so far is death pact. I find that to be the most useful spell I have. So much so that it's a backbone of the build. Like having Phoenix on a Shintao. I'm very used to being able to Rez if I get killed. So that's 15 cleric. But I've already set the bar at 17.
Not sure how I'm gonna do as a caster. Been casting implosion and frog to no effect. Oh sure if in eh and over level, them frog goes off. But not in anything that matters. I've got a 76 wis with what I've got which is 17/4 slavers and +4 from the goggles. So I'll pick up 2 more from the cloak, and 5 more from the armor. So at 83. Well this is vish, but I'm putting on max gear. Ans then I've got sf6, insght4 qual2 and artifact4. So after I get myself put together, I'll post DCs. I'm only hoping I have have good enough for LH raids. I'm slotting general DCs, and may take embolden if that works.
And my hp should be over 1600. I'll take that. Celestia at 30. Because right now I'm at about 1400. In dc. In shadowdancer I was at 1300. So mileage may vary. But with capstone, I should be over 1500 anyhow.
And then there's reslotting augments. Have to pull the globe and the festive wisdom off, as well as few others? Oh ya I slotted ff into the mysterious cloak, because when I went 28 with slavers, I had to give up the boots for the wis shackles, so I could keep my cc bracers which have all my defense on.
Update
Checked Kil this morning. No orb or cloak. But he had helm boots and gloves, for swap. And I'm gonna lend spinnerette. That means Kil will be out sfqual2. Oh well, may slot necro ring. But loses the sorc set. So really I need another spinnerette. Have to check mule for orb and cloak and belt.
But I decided to do a baba and Strahd this morning. The baba went smooth enough, couple glitches, but we got thru it pretty well. Someone kited the mounds at the end and we just dps baba. No loot. Then a Strahd. I should have known better, no cleric. So it was kinda easy until the lever chamber. That took a long time. Then by then everybody was oom, and we went into Strahd. Killed him, ?*but didn't have good control of brides and one died just before we killed Strahd, and then they all respawned. I was the only one with mana left and the tank couldn't hold the aggro, and I was casting cocoon and Cmw mass all the time, and also rezzing ppl. It's really a mess when no one has mana. Told ya, I always play conservative. Well, I kept us up for another go at it, but it was too much struggle. The bear was kiting all over, ppl were dying, and we couldn't get our dps together. So then I got a bride on me and was getting chased and eventually I died. Then we kinda wiped. Tried a couple ppl with jibbers but we couldn't pull it off. Then leader wanted to do the ddoor trick, and someone Rez me and I grabbed some stones, but I couldn't cast ddor. Well, I remember from the release notes they changed this. But I had never even tried it before. So it's a cage match. Do or die, and we died. Kinda sad, it was only LH.
So I dropped some stuff in bank. And I'm gonna check mule and then see what I can put on. I got reaper blanks for the slavers I need to craft. So I'll prob have Kil do that later today. I'm gonna revisit those pieces make sure it's what I need. But I know I'm good. ;)

Vish

08-25-2018, 09:50 PM

Addendum
Ran a LH baba on vish.
Different experience. Generally melee, but caster with implosion and frog. And this was the test. Tho I'm not even geared yet. Missing all the adds. Only thing I swapped out was cloak and armor. So I'm running a 83 wisdom. With like no sf adds. And I was able to do the scarecrows with both. I'm out on frogging the totems. I had a hurl lock with me and he was getting them. So I tried mut I failed against the totems. Unless they're isolated. I think I did get one that way. But the implosion was rocking the scarecrows, and mass frog got them too. Made it easy for puzzles.
Otherwise for the baba fight I just sat out and healbot. Sometimes I went in and dps, but it was marginal I'm sure. We had couple good hitters in the group. Again, at end killed the mounds, then killed baba. I pulled the cloak of Strahd. Mrr. I kept it. I don't get much gear on vish. So maybe I might put it to use, and go with a wisdom helm. Thought about it anyway.
We were short manning it much of the way. Tho the implosions rocked and the frog cometh. This on a 29 cleric with no significant gear. So it's easy even in LH raids. But I will be testing better, and of all things, I need to get flagged for Strahd. Had the opportunity, was in the group, but I need argonholt I think. I missed some in leveling up. So I may need to do the whole chain just to be sure. Ok that's easy enough.
I looked on the mule. Had the cloak, but no orb. So I'm gonna hafta Farm pies. Otherwise I've yet to craft the slavers. And transfer the runes for the goggles. That will come tonite prob.
And a mdb of 6. So this armor is nice but not that good for melee. Maybe 9 or 12 woulda been nice. Oh well.
I'm running about 2600 sp. that is nice I can cast and heal and not worry too much. This should go up some with slavers wizardry, but I'm near max wis.
I'm just stoked I can implode and frog in baba LH. That's the first door. Next is Strahd. Which I should be fine with consecrate, and bursts.
Will likely be over kill when done, but the real test will be reaper.
Guess I'll hafta pike my way to 50 pts
;)

Vish

08-26-2018, 08:26 PM

Level 30
Finished it of with c1 from motu. Had it before battle, but I took 30 and Celestia and embolden. Then I ran it it was totally easy. I have close to 1700 hp. And I found out I made a big mistake. The enh devotion belt isn't adherents, it's beacon of magic. So I won't be sporting a 5 pc adherents on this build. Kinda sad. Oh well, too good to be true.
Then I banked the helm and the necklace. And switched over to Kil. Kil is my crafter. He has all the bags of goodies. And a crafting skill of like 320?340? Ya so he had a couple reaper blanks. The shackles, and the ring for the trinket. So I crafted them up. Put sorc on them first, then made shackles with false life devotion sf and qual wis. made the trinket with just wiz so far. Gonna put qual prr on it, but didn't use the comps yet. So that made 4 pieces and the spinnerette. For the set. And I transferred the hut runes. And had vish get a pair of goggles. So I suited him up.
Then I went to jewel kit a couple of augments. The globe and the festive wisdom. And I had 2 jewelers kits. Stacked. And I double clicked on them, and it froze the game up for me.
I've had this almost happen before, when I use jewelers kits. Sometimes I get disconnect icon. But it seems a problem. Like it just lags out the system. Don't know why. I hope I didn't lose anything. That's plus three wisdom in 2 augments.
Update
Ok everything's good.
I bought a festive wis off the auction house for 125. Slotted into the cloak. Still missing globe, but I didn't want to pay 250.
Stats
In dc, with pa
Str 21
Dex 43
Con 58
Int 24
Wis 84
Cha 34
Hp 1696
Hamp 95
Sp 2768
Pos 634
AC 93
Dodge 0/6
Fort 70
Reflex 57
Will 88
Bab 20/30
Doublestrike 0
Melee speed 45
Melee power 85
Sr 0
Fort 224
Prr 167
Mrr 90

Gear
Helm executioners sorc
Neck slavers 17/4con sorc
Eyes van richtens adherent
Trinket slavers wiz371 sorc
Body exiles
Cloak Silverthread festive wis adherent
Bracers slavers falselife68 dev185 sf6 qwis4 sorc
Belt Silverthread beacon
Ring1 lprowess
Ring2 spinnerette sorc
Boots flightfoot cha7 adherent
Gloves cc21 ass5 hamp40 insdex4
Tf khopesh 4w 15-20 x4 +105 to hit +93 damage
Off hand mist fallen orb adherent

Death from above 77 fort
Destruction 72 fort
implosion
Mass frog
Coordinated strike 77 reflex
Soundburst 67 fort
Gcommand 70 will

Notes
So I got the slaver set, but one short of adherent. Could swap the gloves. Oh well, built as planned.
It's short some things. Ghostly, dstrike. I have to swap planar still for reapers.
But I ran it in a couple reaper wpm. I'm really missing the reaper points. Implosion and frog weren't working. But I was doing decent damage. Now all I got to do is flag for Strahd.
Pretty happy with the end results. Good hp, good prr. Can do good melee dps. Can't cast yet in reaper, but I still have 2700 sp and can cast lotta heals. So I make an excellent cleric. The bursts re in place of an aura, and the hands and heals take care of everything else. That and consecration with crusade. And 10% damage bird. Makes for much quicker boss fights. So that's my secret sauce for this build.
Also, have true resurrection. That and half Rez and raise dead. So that's three people off the ground. I got the mana for it. Only if my frogs and implosion started working would I see that go down more. But most those spells costs 50 mana.
Well, there is the bird man. Three special attacks and killer instinct. A warpriest if ever there was one. A true hybrid cleric.

Wipey

08-27-2018, 06:47 AM

A warpriest if ever there was one. A true hybrid cleric.
To be blunt, 70 - 80 DCs are pointless. Unless by "hybrid cleric" you mean mediocre melee damage, no crowd control with zero casting ability.
170 prr and 6 dodge melee is very squishy.

Tilomere

08-27-2018, 12:04 PM

To be blunt, 70 - 80 DCs are pointless. Unless by "hybrid cleric" you mean mediocre melee damage, no crowd control with zero casting ability.
170 prr and 6 dodge melee is very squishy.

Those stats are all relative to the gear and power of the character, and the content they run.

Also vish you probably weren't able to frog the totems because you need to activate spell resistance on mass frog first by casting a SR normal spell on them first. /bugusplat

Vish

08-27-2018, 01:46 PM

Post 30
Ok now I got to tweak this build.
Twists. Gotta revisit them. Got 4 slots on the gem, so no prowess set yet. Besides, no calamity yet.
Added a prot8 to helm. AC to 101.
Added a good luck2 to belt.
Put ff on the gloves
oh ya, can mythic the sorc set. Forgot about that.
Need a globe, gonna put it on the armor.
And thinking of crafting stunning20 on the trinket, for dire charge
Saw dire charge at 98 with killer instinct. With stun would be 118.
May drop cocoon, since I don't seem to cast it. Heals and hands.
Update
Twists 4 sense weakness, 1 cocoon, 1 pos, 1 10%sp
Will use that until I get gem up to 5 slots, then will go prowess. Then 3 haste, 1 mp, 1 extra action boosts, 1 cocoon?

About DCs
Well vish is my minimum investment cleric. He's got 3 cleric lives and a couple epics. He's got bis gear. 84 is best wisdom I can work up. So he does fine in LH. That was the test, that he could implode and frog in baba. I didn't figure the DCs for those 2 spells, they don't have a tooltip. But on the bird attacks, it's not figuring in assassinate from tree or gear. So that's +8-10. And I can't really get my wisdom higher. I've got even stats now and only augment I'm missing is globe.
This is best hybrid I can come up with. It does just fine r1. Remember, vish has only 15 reaper points. I was seeing implosion and frog going off some of the time. It's pretty hit or miss. Seems I need to cast the implosion out of combat and come charging in. Frog works sometimes too.
See, this build has room to grow. It's not a maxxed out toon. And wisdom won't go any higher, and I've got sf in his gear, and even embolden. So it'll work for what I need. I planned it, I built it, and I'm generally pretty happy. He will always run in a group, so he's a force multiplier. I was running a slavers r1 and we had 3 clerics in the group. I didn't see them imploding or frogging. So they just in same boat as me.
I don't decry the criticisms of the min max crowd. Attitude is like if you don't have max dc why even bother. But this is max dc for what it's worth. For what vish can afford. He will be able to reaper just fine. And I've got the room to grow him into a better caster as I learn the nuances of the spell.
And his dps is pretty good. Ran into the mists, and got a barovian khopesh. That turned the damage up to about 250 a hit. With crits to 1500-1700. So he does great on clean up duty. And for bosses he has crusade and damage bird, so bosses go down fast. Plus he's a cleric with bursts and heals, a welcome addition to any group.
It's not a max caster or a max dps. It's hybrid. I planned it, I built it, and now I'm going to live with it. For what he was designed for, LH raids, he will do spectacular.

Vish

08-30-2018, 03:02 AM

Sqwak!
The bird man cometh,
And the bird man slayeth

This is a surprising fun build, for a cleric
I've run lotta clerics, and I'm completionist on Kil
So I know how to melee prob better than any other style
Also one that takes the most skill
But this is pretty supreme fighter
The consecrations always keep the group up
So much so that I rarely have to burst
I find myself turning more for the mp add
But it's got killer instinct, and zeal
And then it's got heal and hands
And three Rezzes
And the frog and implosion work in r1
Even with arcane insight
It's got 1700 hp, decent prr and 3000 sp
3000 for a melee cleric is a lot
But my secret weapons are frog and implosion
And my secret sauce is billboard bird
I mean it's not a duality monk
And it's not a necro hurler
But it is a cleric that can fight
And brings 20% damage to bosses
Plus keeps everybody alive
Even the zombies
So overall I'm impressed enough

Loot finds
Needed an orb. Ran pies. Pulled it myself. First run.
Then I ran a slavers run. And pulled a spinnerette. Kil sorced it and he's back to full.
Then I ran Kil and got handed a legendary whelm. That's for vish. I used the heroic and kinda like it. It's got a cool reverb attack
Oh then I ran a r1 baba on Kil and pulled a +8 con tome. Whoo hoo. I haven't decided what to do with it. Now you can buy in stores, so not worth as much. I may give it to vish. I have couple +7s on Kil. I plan on buying him a supreme 8.
So as usual I have good loot luck. Probably because I worship random ;)
But the build turned out better than I expected. It would have about 6-7 more wis on a max toon. So I'm doing fine for a first alt. and actually my moniker. And the guild leader. So he's got to represent.
Ok next few days will be running ravenloft to flag for Strahd. I'm not seeing as many high reaper groups running, and actually I can prob only healbot above 3, I just don't have the reaper points on vish. But I'll get some runs in.
And Kil is back to operational. That r1 baba we had a bear with 5000hp tank the two mounds at the end. First time I seen that. But she kept herself alive. I was watching her hp and she wasn't taking too much damage at all. Go bears. Then I ran a r3 curse, and I'm kinda outa the saddle on Kil, but my instakills were having a tough time on the abishai and orthons. Made me doubt the build a moment. With 94 cha and 96 fod, it's the best I got. I mean at heart I'm a monk, but this was my first real attempt at dc casting. And really it's a monster build. I got asked if I was a hurler before they let me in. Of course. That's all I have to offer in baba. Because otherwise its all blasting. In Strahd too. Dc instakillers dont do to good in raids. But it tears up the content. But monks are solid in anything. Ya I'm seeing 250 on vish, and I know duality does 600. Can't beat 17w. But vish rocks as a cleric. I'm happy.
And about gem. Need some more non nom. I will report back on how it's better or not with a prowess set. My guess would be about 325-350. So decent enough.

I'll also do a bit more write up on my recommendations. I should give a more detailed analysis of this new tree. Because I was watching strimtoms video on his eagle build, a 10/6/4 rogue fighter pally thf. And I have similar critiques to him. But this build was a warpriest build. With casting viability. So very different than his monster.

Vish

05-04-2021, 12:24 PM

Gonna add a wicked blade

Updates to follow

Vish

05-07-2021, 02:21 PM

The wicked blade

Enforcer med
Fort215 prr54 healamp85 falselife85

Neck family sigil
Trusee AP33 deadly17 relentless fury

Glove hammerfist
INS DS11 seek21 Ideadly8 cannithinfusion

Artifact bonus family +25mp +15DS

Belt bronze dragon
CON21 healamp85 Ifalselife40 lifesealed50

Trinket blood of blossoms
WIS21 IWIS10 shelter55 enhancedki3

Goggles Attunement s gaze
SF7 ISF4 eff embolden and heighten

Bracers leg hallowed castigators
Dev214 heallore31 ishelter27 eff empower healing

Boots flightfoot
Speed30 FOM natarmor19 reflex16

Cloak mantle of fury
CON19 DOUBLESTRIKE22 dodge19

Helm umber brim
Iacc16 idec8 profane imp quell strikes

Ring1 leg prowess
ACC28 deadly14 MP8

Ring2 spinnerette
Spellpen7 QSF2 Qpot32 spelllore15

Orb mistfallen

Wicked blade 7.5w 16-20 x3
+131 to hit +113 damage
Prowess: MP, crit, mrr, attack, dex, all rare.

Boots, cloak, helm
2 rings
No artifact?! Need to run Sharns

30.
Been running vish raids. As an alt. I just don’t have the confidence on him as I do kil. Different roles. But I’ve been giving more time to vish, and he contributes, just not on a reaper level yet.
So. I figure we got 3 months to horizon. So in that time I would like to do one epic tr, because vish has some screwed feats. I look at this 2 years later and wonder what I was thinking, but I think it was a leveling scheme. Now at 30 running raids, where I’m mostly spot heals but add sacred ground and 10% bird on melee. So I add some dips on bosses but mostly there to keep melee alive. The ole fighting cleric. But on his own he can’t melee too well. Running a ravenloft sword with no filigree. And the orb sucks.
So. Need to regear. The idea is to go 15/5 ranger. So that I have the option to bow or to refeat and go tempest. So I’ll get the wicked blade, and now he does dips and stacks vulnerable, and maybe the sov vorpal will help the melee. And I’ll take my gem out the 20 weapon and put in 5 pc prowess. But I think I have to re twist to take some action boosts. To proc prowess. Since all I have is sprint from falconry.
I can take gear from kil for silent avenger, I don’t have an extra necklace. And the vish has some decent raid gear. So it won’t be so much an elegant set, more of what he has to work with. But I had about 2500 runes. I took them off kil and put in shared bank. The counter went up as if it added them, but they didn’t display in the bank. Kinda freaked out. Quickly checked my open tabs and inventory, and I could see they wereNT on me. So I prayed and closed the bank. Waited a minute and reopened it. They were there. Thank god. If I just lost 2500 runes I would **** my pants I know they wouldnt replace them. And that’s just too much ****ing effort for a bugged UI.

Bought the blade and blossom

Con49 wis 85
1600 hp with stalwart
2600 spell pool
450 pos
AC 87 ouch
Dodge 15/15
Prr 195 mrr 121
235 fort

Blood blossom
Festive wis2 globe of true blood

Greaves
Feather falling

Armor prot10

The gear is pretty subject to rearrangement. But I just ran a r1 quid pro quo. And in the giant part, I dps, and was moving the health bar pretty good. So I’m gonna continue to test. For raids and LH he should be good. In reaper I saw almost 1800 hp, so that’s good enough. I was gonna farm fey and prob Sharn for rxp and some gear. Feeling much better about his dps survivability.
Ya because it was a total gear swap, but kept the rings. I want a fey prince orb, for the con, then I can go maybe at least 2 pc winter, and maybe 4. Really he needs epic lives as well. And I checked he has 2 human racial. So I was gonna x2 aasimar, for the wis adds, then eventually run the third for point. That’s long term.
Maybe now he’ll get more regular play as I feel he can dps enough to do what he does in raids. Didn’t lose too much off the cleric side. Lost the quality wis and lesser displace, but all my stats about doubled. Went from 0 DOUBLESTRIKE to 48, and melee power is at 113. With prowess and mp boost that’s doubles. So burst dps. And 10 of each? I twisted in meld, mp boost from LD, And extra action boost from LD,and endless faith. I could slot a wiz261, but I’ve only got the one on kil, and they’re expensive. But 20 burst spots should be about once a melee or maybe 10 for a boss fight. Will test. I had 30 on the monk and he never used them all. 20 sounds more than good.
Also, was looking thru Vish augment bag. He has a lot of lower stuff from years of play. But he had a meridian fragment. So I took that out and gave to kil.
Also. With new armor I don’t like the jacket loot ever, so I glamored the old armor. Golden outfit with halcyonia. And 15 cloak for now, but I may swap out.

Vish

05-14-2021, 01:28 PM

30
Switched to the heavy armor, part of the family. Didn’t know there was a set, but was running cogs and a mythic2 dropped for me. The issue is AC. UNDER 100. Decent prr means he can take a hit, but low AC means he gets hit all the time. So most of my combat waits until aggro is established. Go in lay down crusade and melee from the side.
Been running vish r4-6. 20 reaper points. He def has r4 dps with the sword. But his defenses means he can hardly get into combat. This will do fine for quests with tanks, or raids with tanks. Since he is really dps melee cleric. With crusade and bird that gives 10% dps.and turn undead which boosts mp.
Spell wise, he can still frog and implode r1 baba. And for newer raids he can heal and dps where needed. Rearrly rare to see melee cleric, laying down crusade and bursting.
But I feel vish is in a really good space enough to carry my raiding while I epic tr kil.
Oh ya his saves suck too and I find he gets knocked down a lot. They really need more items with balance and jump skills. Just for clerics. Heavy armor is rough yo.
Also, bought a ruby of good and put it in the sword. Good dr needed for a lot of content.
Also, swapped out belt for leg pouch healer. I was looking up insightful devotion. Not any new items. So this bumps vish s pos up to 550. No way to really higher unless I go potency items. So wondering the raid goggles with SF, maybe swap out the dusk lenses, that have potency adds. Maybe get vish pos up to 750. But that’s about the only investment into cleric I have.
Pulled another winter boot. One issue on vish is slotting 30% speed. The healer belt has it so do the boots, so now I can swap out boots. But that looses natarmor and reflex, pretty need for this build. Ya just no good options. Plenty of gear, and none of it works together. It’s like they don’t have a picture of the puzzle and just started cutting out pieces for it.
I could pull an omniscience and swap spinnerette.
But it’s mostly that he has dps. Alway the prob of the cleric is he can stay alive through heals, but can’t kill anything. Seems the rage is caster cleric, but I’ve never tried that out.

Leg pouch +92 +45 pos 27%lore +30%speed

Now his prr up to 212 mrr 120. Ac is like 94.

Ran raids. Shroud, vod, lob, ma, dnd. Good team so overall pretty easy. Learned some new tricks in ma as healer. Can only use lvl7 and higher on cleric. I’ll have to check kil and see if his heal works on that raid. Lvl6 but max. And dps is good, but I’m still dying in melee. He is too squishy ac wise. Pulled a tharnes bracers. And checked ac with them on. About 30 diff to about 130. So maybe. But lose the pos off the castigators. So maybe helm? I need to look another tetris. Anyways I’m enjoying these raids more. Also learned some new stuff on lob, these raids I never ran in the old days, and they recently released, so there’s some nice stuff in there.
Hmm. Looked. Need a legendary alchemists crown. Devotion wizardry and quality wisdom. Now I know what I’m looking for. And an omniscience. Those will prob prop the ac up to 150 or more....swapping out the umber brim, lose insigtacc16 and profane. And I kinda like quelling strike on when I’m taking out casters. But I might see a better tetris. Lose the spinnerette for the omniscience. Pick up resistance. Help saves. The spinnerette I was using for dc, so it can be swap for spelling frog. I’ll see. This is loot dreaming atm.
The other thing I’ve encountered is undead tanks.
I guess that is the rage.
Well, it kinda ****es me. Just as palemasters do. I realize it’s part of the game. But let’s not when there’s healers in the group.
Yes, I carry and use harm. Because palemasters are pretty normal for the dc wizard. So I expect that once in a while. But I do not expect it for the tank. I didn’t really learn that till the end of dnd, when we were talking about some stuff. I had been healing using heal or hands worked, but my heals were real low, like 1k instead of like 5k. Felt stupid for not testing it, and not realizing it earlier, but I feel I’m getting to know my cleric better, getting to know what he can handle in raids, like I can pull orthon aggro, but now I know and will expect it.
I still can’t fit even a 2pc winter, wold pick up 25prr. Because I was looking the orb sound.
Ya so I have more tetris to look at.
But as for dps. In more regular boss attack, like sulomades or the bosses in dnd, it’s a
Easy to crusade and auto attack dps, and I was seeing crits to 10k. So that’s good enough for a melee cleric swf. And I got that 10% bird add. It only last 10 sec, but on giant boss dnd I def saw the bar move faster at the end. So it’s a good finish move. I feel raid for vish is just right. Quests don’t always get tanks, but I run good groups.
Ya, there was part in MA, where I even switched out to US and put on a ring of flickering steel. And just did cleric heals. But totally unnecessary with group we had in LH. Maybe good advice r1, since there are always tougher tricks to figure on the time draw out.
I can get DS OVER 100 easy, and I saw MP at 256. That was reaper boost and zeal I think. Or maybe a MP Boost with a prowess add. I still haven’t haven’t the real dps tests and dps cycles need to know my dps. It’s the issue of any taking damage and having to self heal instead of dps. I’m still doing that a lot. So I know I can push dps more yet. Still learning the chops and cycles. It’s a challenge being cleric and melee. But I’m having fun and he’s performing better than I expected.

Vish

05-20-2021, 12:24 PM

30
Switch t1 extra boost, to t1 dance of flowers +1w
Ran vish this morning lh dnd, fey chest. Nothing dropped tho?
Ran raids in the eve. No pulls, but dnd dropped bottled rainstorm and the caster staff. Passed off the trinket and kept the staff. Definitely the best for caster divine. Maybe a 17/3 cleric monk?
Also. Rearranged items, put on a 4 pc winter. The belt, bracers and boots. Swapped the helm to crown of summer. I lose the insight and quality devotion, and lost the run speed. But I put up hp from 1600 to 2200. And prr is upr to 236. Ac is also 107. But he runs terrible slow. Ran him this way in raids tonite. He kept up no prob due to haste’s in the group, and was never really out of step, just slow run. Still crazy fast attack. Also the sword up to 8.5w. But lost 100 pos and 30 speed. He definitely seemed he was tougher. Will test reaper.
Also, lost wis from 84/5 to 82. But rearranged reaper and 85 in reaper, so about the same. DS is 49% and MP is 123 base.
The weird feats were PA and cleave. There is a bird aoe cleave with blind too. I do use the cleave sometimes, but it’s a more spam of a button that doesn’t the seem to matter so much... so on a epic reroll I could swap those out. Maybe empower and precision. Or heighten? Enlarge? Eschew? He’s not really a dc caster, not really a spell damage caster...
Still looking the insight command. Had kil run the dragons this morn r6 2 reroll s, nope.
Ran some r3. Still dying a lot, still trying to melee and needing heals. Or needing to step back and heal others. Orb and sword is pretty naked. But all the martial and divine epics would really pump him up. I looked at running GMOF. Could be done.
Looked his saga and first time rxp quests. Quite a few so I’ll try to cherry pick some r6 runs. I feel ok in r4, but really don’t like taking melee over r3.
Also, looking to swap out the goggles? Those are SF11. But I’m not a dc caster except really for frog and implosion. And I try but those don’t work well usual in any higher reaper. But works r1. That was the Litmus. So I swapped out the new goggles, sleepwalker, it has accuracy, so I could swap out the prowess, or the spinnerette. And it has potency 150, which I thought adds to positive but it didn’t. Already had seeker but it add deception, so some sneak damage. But not worth it.
I might play around with a spring winter set. Even tho I have a spring summer saved for bow. Hmm, 2 bags full of loot. The 3 pc 4 pc is what I’m running on monk tho. So it’s dps sets. Just I’m too low ac, and only 11 dodge. But I run slow, like a tank.

Vish

06-02-2021, 09:35 AM

30
Mon morn lfm for fey. Pulled the gloryborne. Autumn set, but sacred and silver flame. May work it’s way into a cleric caster build. Would have traded even tho nothing in chest I needed, but no offers up.
Raid nite. Rolled on the loris necklace and got it. Pulled the propolsion boots, which is just what he needs but just can’t wear, maybe good swap for the jump, but I have winter boots on, and nymphs boots on the ranger build. So I could have but I don’t like swaps. The only thing I swap are beholder optic, jeweled cloak, and vom.
Raid nite thurs. another good and easy run. Pulled a dull dagger, but vish ain’t no cleric of vol. so I gave it to the klingons.

Stat
Str 29
Dex 41
Con 62
Int 23
Wis 83
Cha 26
Hp 2257
Hamp 155
Sp 2690
Ac 113
Dodge 11/11
Fort 74
Reflex 54
Will 82
Bab 20/30
DOUBLESTRIKE 49
Melee speed 30
Melee power 123
Fort 235
Prr 236
Mrr 119

3 pc family
Enforcer plate
Sigil
Hammer fist

Van rich tens spectacles/ swap attunement s gaze
Crown of fireflies
Blood of blossom
Mantle of fury

4 pc winter
Direbear belt
Cold iron bracers
Deep snow boots
Heart of the prince

Leg prowess
Leg spinneret

Wicked blade w 5 pc prowess

Other notes
May tr vish while kil camps 30
I was looking the wisdom items from keep, pulled 2 rings this life on kil, and have lot other 21 gear, but maybe not a wisdom melee set yet? And not sure what 15 Sharn set I would use, family I suppose. Haven’t thouroughly checked it out. Just know that vish could use the epic pl, and I was looking his favor, and he has a lot of quests to do. So so should be easy. He has no greater tome, or heroic tome. He has 3 cleric pl, and 2 human pl. and +6 tomes.
Maybe I should check his sagas, and finish those r4, so he can rxp. He has 21 reaper points atm. Sharn, cogs, ravenloft and fey would get him to 21 and put on gear. And farm gear. Have to elite....

Reroll 21 set
3 pc family
Body
Necklace
Gloves

Ring1 blind devotion
Ring2 prowess

Helm silver sworn
Blckfeather boots
Belt of devotion need
Orb of devotion need
Serrated arrowhead
Cloak and bracers? Maybe cc to fill, need con.
And a platinum long sword? I can sentient and prowess cost 6 tools.

On reroll, eschew and precision. Free up bag space. Add to attack.

Vish

06-12-2021, 11:44 AM

30
Running raids, some rxp. Have fey and ravenloft done for saga, need back half Sharn and cogs. Then epic tr.
Raids. Pulled a duality. There were 2 monks in the group, but if they didn’t already have it, then poo. First time I pulled it. I envisioned a 17/3 clonk once upon a time and now maybe I’ll think it more.
Vish running some rxp. Reaper to 23.
It’s funny I really enjoy playing vish now. Not awesome stats but his dps saves hims. And ppl are not knowing where the arrow comes from. Sqwak! The Bird Man!
Raid nite. Pulled a changestone DEX ACC DEADLY IACC. decided to keep it. Could now run a ring of taer valestas, add a collective sight, and swap trinket. Also, looking a swap insightful commands for spinnerette, dps vs caster swap items. Basically two, with spectacles. Also thinking future, HW. Sounds like DEX tree with trance, so it may be a dex wis con build for cleric ranger. Also have room to swap out prowess, losing mp but making room for omniscience. Adding wis ring adds a artifact to this current build.

Vish

07-27-2021, 11:40 PM

30
Raid nite. Pulled masque and schism shard. I think that’s 4. Eventually want to do a long sword monk build. I’ve seen a falcon ion monk build. Pretty serious dps.
Ran vish to get some 30 time in. He hasn’t pulled the bow, so I haven’t went to any bow build. And neither will I. This is an awesome melee cleric raid dps build. And tonite in baba I was goggle swap for frog and implosion. Maybe when u50 and 51 settle he may be a better dc build than now. Since I guess attunement gaze will be bis.
Also, fixed movement. Got a topaz of swiftness, which has 30% run and 15% melee alacrity. I saw melee speed 45. So I think that’s max. Super dupe, I can run now. Didn’t know it was in the store. We had conversation about it. 175 ddo.
Oh ya I’ll have to recall some paparazzi next time and get some vish screenshots.

Enderoc

07-28-2021, 02:48 AM

Alright, catching flies from left field
Ok I like monk
Would do a clonk if it fit
But Handwraps come from monk level, and capstones
And this is an implosion build
So 17 levels
Leaves me 3 monk
Have to spend 3 feats stat for dex, and basically have no wraps dps. Like 1 die
So it sounds good. Has the best synergy
But has no dps
So I don't think I'll evar build a clonk imploder. Might go that way on a caster build, but not on a melee build. It would even be a quarter staff.

Ps
Besides, I'm gonna aasimar duality Kil next,
So I'll have my 30 monk
And my 30 fleric
When you splash monk you tend to use other weapons not wraps...like Henshin staff user...fire domain cleric of Aureon or however you spell the Gods name...war hawk

Vish

08-13-2021, 01:31 AM

30 raid nite
Kil on timer so I took out vish. First time since update
Lost 500 hp. Otherwise he’s down some but seems playable. We did LH tonite. Guess we had a pretty strong group, since they all went well. We had a variety of mix change out, but all the quests went smooth. Well LOB, we marked him twice, and then the pillars came down before we marked him thrice, but we dps and took him down and got it, and dialogue played out, finished and got second chest. Guess this one was for dialogue saving us the chest. Had a roll on the bow in dnd, but didn’t get it again. Funny, I have like 3600 runes on vish. But I was waiting to see if the bow dropped to tr and run it, but I think I’m not doing any changes. Just keep vish at 30 to raid.
Also, they changed the marker to look like the new marked icon. No longer a big purple arrow, it’s a marked target. I kinda would like the old one, but I guess it’s a issue if bow marks too now? Idk does that stuff interact? It would be nice to differentiate them.
Lost the keen on the sword. So from 8.5 to 6.5 or about 25% nerf.
But really the issue is hit points. That’s really a huge problem. When the casters have as much hp as the melee, you know it’s ****ed. Losing hp is the only buffer we have to react. And nerfing that, I have seen awesome great players dying in r6 and having unexpected deaths where we were use to more survivability. Ya every time I log in and look at the hp drop, I just sigh. Everyone has taken a pretty big hit and we were talking about it. Idk we were saying raid hp weren’t nerfed. But we were still doing LH tonite. We did the shroud on LE, and had to do part 2 twice, one of them got away and got killed and that ended up respawning them. I was oom at end of those fights, and was hella rezzing ppl. Lot of one shots. But in LE there is no Rez timer and it was Johnny cleric Rez as fast you can. Ya when I heal and Rez and more full time cleric, I burn the mana pool pretty fast. Normally I have a full bar, I don’t cast, I melee and just throw down sacred ground and burst. It’s great for melee heals. But when I standing back just casting, I cycle more masses, since bursting away from the fight is useless, just like being a casting radiant servant.
Oh ya, I had to redo enhancements. I had 13 points in RS. Some new stuff. I took turns and burst core3, and ended up adding a point of wisdom out of it. Also, I ate the racial tome, and I got an extra ap out of it. I took martyrdom, want to test that out. I’m still squish for a melee now with loss of 500 hp, and ac about 100. And I died a few times tonite. So see what it does. And then if you die with the cleric self Rez, you do a death heal then return like a Phoenix? I’ll have to test it out.
Was thinking tr vish too.was thinking tr kil as well. Vish could use the past lives now, divine wise and even martial. I’ve got just a couple chains on kill to do max rxp. But vish is still able to contribute. Maybe got a reaper nerf, he has 20 points, so needs more but prob not over r4. But he’s fine as a raid cleric, especially for the runs we do.
Also, put the schism shard in shared for kil.
Also, did the puzzle solve in dnd tonight. First time, I’m lazy and don’t do puzzle, but can if I want. Like the one in saltmarsh, I figured that right first time I did it. And we also got all 4 bluffs. First time for that I recall. Oh ya, I was in on the early runs with the guns where we were figuring the solve for the puzzles first time. So I get the benefit of just looking the wiki for the answer.
Here’s a pic.

https://i.imgur.com/ydcedKG.jpg

Vish

09-01-2021, 12:21 AM

30 raids
Last week. Pulled a ring of thelis and an alchemists crown. The crown was passed. But I wanted it and no one else did, so thanks.
This week. Baba strahd PN killing time. all on LH. In the PN, pulled the heavy crossbow. And a rogue in the group was looking it. Of course, I prefer to pass to who CAN use it, on the toon there. He said he was gonna spend runes on it. Saved him some ;) then in killing time I pull the wisdom trinket. Insightful. I remember back in the day, I wanted this for kil, for the monk build. Now, we’ll I do wisdom builds, and it’s kinda nice getting stuff for vish. He may not have the lives but he has the gear. In the baba I switched over to the attunement goggles, since I was casting frog and implosion. Seemed to work no problem, other than being slow spells.
Vish pretty much holding ground, I run his as my alt raider since kill is in TR. I WAS THE ONLY HEALER IN THE GROUP TONIGHT, ALL FOUR RUNS. sorry caps. Usual we get another or a FVS. We had a couple alchy s, and I know they can heal. But I usual dps and heal off the sacred ground and bursts. Boss dps. But tonite I hung back and played traditional healer. Spot healing, bursting , hands, masses at times. Trying to keep ppl alive. On a reroll I would take enlarge. ESP as a raid healer. Many fights big rooms where the reach is the difference. Running around to heal isn’t the best but it happens a lot that ppl spread all over. That’s why I tell I’m melee because that takes stress off all the work. And full time cleric when ppl are taking damage isn’t easy. Kept just missing heals or casting at them and it not landing in time them still dying or watching hp bar goe down try to cast and the still die. Ya some frustration tonight, but also just some too fast take downs. The nerf on the hp was not needed. That is our only reaction buffer. And if our defenses are down and monster damage is same any spikes are killing them too fast.. Yea i know, LN. but we were running LH……………
anyways I was having a blast because I so rarely play hp bar keeper. But some are more squishy than others, especially those barbs. But I had fine we had deaths, I told them don’t die, I’m not a healer, lolz as the only healer icon in the group. We did a good job of not dying and ppl got their loot. We had another elation, rogue got her suffering and pain set. She was super happy. So we had two super happy folks tonite. Gratz!

Paparazzi

https://i.imgur.com/0w9sVlT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Xj08ocT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/uXTUPA6.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/fy6aiFF.jpg