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nayozz
05-25-2018, 04:55 PM
Hi there, i was away for 2 months from ddo, originally i left cause monsters on legendary hard ravenloft had too many hitpoints... i just played other epics, had fun, tr my sorceror and played an artificier build 15 artif, 5 rogue, great xbow + fusillade.

i tried ravenloft again, but on heroic elite... and i admit at least on heroic the legendary quest are somehow playable... same with creeping death, and to bring down the sky... they become slow slog through hugeton of hitpoints of enemies, but at least on heroic the problem isnt as severe as in legendary.

i tried all the quests except the raid, i was happy about the ability to unlock vistani tree through favor without having to do the raid... the unlock is much easier than what is asked for artificer...

the quest quality... i didnt like much, i also didn't find any new mechanic, even if some people say they exist.

the best expansion pack by far is the first one, i totally love all quests of the first expansion. also the mechanics are clear:

1) slaver hides, if you kill him first you can avoid to fight his minions
2) necromancer has to die first also, if you do not do that... any slayed enemy or ally return back to life as undead
3) the lolth female priest is able to sacrifice 1 ally to gain back life, and gain a temporary powerup buff, is generally best to slay her for last

i mean i loved those mechanics.

also as a notable mention i like into the belly of the beast: is unique, also do not poison the well i consider unique, also rusted blade, broken chain, and death undone,
while trial by fury, and the second one i consider them not special at all, kinda fine... reclaiming the rift is unique as quest and i like it
the 2 level 19 quests are generic, but are also kinda fine and better than trial by fury and the second one of chain3
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shadowfell quality of the quest took a deep... in wheelon almost all quest are kinda fine, the only good one is the last one of the chain, where u switch from the plane of light to plane of shadow and so on

about storm horns... i liked the caravan quest, as is a tower defence like, and is unique... i also likes what goes up... 1 part of the quest is a bit boring, the middle one, where you are underground and need to find a crest and an npc... while the part i like the most is outside, i also like the music, is my favorite and listen to it while i do jogging... victory without a chance is called... totally liked it, and that part of the quest.

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ravenloft quests are even worse, of course that is just my opinion, the quality feels worse, although it is a nice touch the teleport to quest, and the fact you gain a weapon of your choice as soon as you finish quest 1...

while getting a nice weapon wasnt absolutely necessary to me, it really makes new players able to contribute to quest alongside veterans, i was happy someone who is a new player, bought the expansion, and after 1 qust was able to gear himself and to contribute to the quest.

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if you red the wall of the or not here is my request:

give a ml20 choice of weapons from both side, the barovian ones (light) and the (night/dark) ones... a ml20...

i am thinking: i want to use sentient from ml20, but what choices do i have as a great xbow user, with some difficulty people with common weapon type can gain a decent ml20 weapon... but if someone uses a rare weapon type what choices do he has ?

adding a ml20 option among the level of weapons you can obtain would be a really cool thing to do... after all everything we have left so far is some crappy and really hard to obtain scroll seal shard epic weapons, and some random junk eveningstar challenge loot...

having a possibility to get barovian/night version ravenloft weapons would be really cool.

Niminae
05-25-2018, 06:10 PM
if you red the wall of the or not here is my request:

give a ml20 choice of weapons from both side, the barovian ones (light) and the (night/dark) ones... a ml20...

i am thinking: i want to use sentient from ml20, but what choices do i have as a great xbow user, with some difficulty people with common weapon type can gain a decent ml20 weapon... but if someone uses a rare weapon type what choices do he has ?

adding a ml20 option among the level of weapons you can obtain would be a really cool thing to do... after all everything we have left so far is some crappy and really hard to obtain scroll seal shard epic weapons, and some random junk eveningstar challenge loot...

having a possibility to get barovian/night version ravenloft weapons would be really cool.

You've hit the nail on the head here on an issue which has been around for a while, but which the introduction of sentient weapons has highlighted: There just aren't many 'current' (as in not junk when compared to even a Cannith Crafted weapon) weapons in the low epic levels. And this is especially true when looking at caster weapons.

Each new adventure pack includes a few quests, and each has a heroic version and an upper epic or legendary version. When no content is released for the early epic levels that means that there is no new itemization for the early epic levels.

I completely support the devs releasing more content around the level cap, this is needed. But this has left a gap in the early epics. Having U39 include low level Epic and also Legendary levels would be a good start at correcting this oversight. Since the chase items in White Plume Mountain are all sentient weapons it doesn't make any sense for there to be a heroic level version, since there can be no heroic sentient weapons.

EllisDee37
05-26-2018, 07:27 AM
I think they'd be better off revamping the old shard/seal/scroll weapons, and possibly adding a few new ones to round out all weapon choices like throwers and repeaters.

That way all new content continues to flesh out "endgame," but we'd finally have valid "chaser" items for ETR sentient weapons. Aim for the power level of something like Epic Antique Greataxe, maybe.

SerPounce
05-26-2018, 10:39 AM
Can they make quests with an epic and a legendary version or just heroic and epic/legendary? I agree we need more low epic weapons, but I have to pick between new low epic quests and new legendary quests I'm picking new legendary quests every time.

boredGamer
05-26-2018, 10:57 AM
Just go with defensive sentient set with whatever (I went with level 20 hammer from anniversary party) - decent levelling stick.

More options would be nice though.

xveganrox
05-26-2018, 08:12 PM
Totally agree — named weapon selection from 20-28 is just awful. You’ve got a few melee S/S/S options for some builds — eAG, eSoS, etc. — but Sands and VoN items might as well not exist for anyone who wasn’t around five years ago. Based on my server I don’t know how a newer player would even be able to make a Heroic GS weapon before they hit 30. Thunderforged fills a tiny gap and then is immediately obsolete for melees. LGS is the same in most cases. Virtually all SSS items are outperformed by level 16 CC items or in many cases level 10 barovian weapons. I wish Ravenloft came with heroic, epic, and legendary difficulty.

goodspeed
05-27-2018, 12:00 AM
Totally agree — named weapon selection from 20-28 is just awful. You’ve got a few melee S/S/S options for some builds — eAG, eSoS, etc. — but Sands and VoN items might as well not exist for anyone who wasn’t around five years ago. Based on my server I don’t know how a newer player would even be able to make a Heroic GS weapon before they hit 30. Thunderforged fills a tiny gap and then is immediately obsolete for melees. LGS is the same in most cases. Virtually all SSS items are outperformed by level 16 CC items or in many cases level 10 barovian weapons. I wish Ravenloft came with heroic, epic, and legendary difficulty.

to true. Aside from a couple of weapons, theirs really nothing that doesn't just suck compared to even random gen **** for the start of epics. Unless your using an esos or waiting a few levels to 23 to get a sting. And armor just sucks. The early 20's consist of whatever random **** you can find to boost stats up until you hit 27 to 29 and get something thats worth a ****. Pretty much it's eveningstar peices. And even those aren't really any better then random gen. Heck I think the only thing I even really use is the purple gauntlets because of the stacked hamp.

btolson
05-27-2018, 12:04 AM
I wish they'd do something akin to Devil Assault for newer epic content, set EN to ~21, EH to ~26, and EE to ~32.

Some gear can be aimed at lower levels, alongside other things like clickies/flasks and named augments that scale based on ML of the item they go into, as incentive for people who stay mainly at cap.