Is it OK ot use ReShade?

[Skellimancer]

Anyone know?

[Kaboom2112]

Does it bring back Axer?

[Memnir]

I don't even know what that is, and I'm too lazy to Google it. So...


https://i.imgur.com/QIVASGe.gif

[hinton]

If my understanding of the program is correct all it does is changes what you see. Iff that's is the fact then I don't see why SSG would have any problem with it. I am not an employee of SSG so that is just my opinion

[Arkat]

I don't even know what that is, and I'm too lazy to Google it. So...

I think it's this, Mem.

https://reshade.me/

[Cordovan]

It's not really something we can give an official opinion on, particularly since it's always theoretically possible the program could allow people to do something that would not be permitted, or updated in a way that allows it to be used for something it currently can't be used for. That said, in general a program that would just adjust graphical settings, colors, and shading doesn't seem like an issue, as it wouldn't impact gameplay.

[PermaBanned]

And there I was thinking it would be great to put my monitor's Gamma back to normal (otherwise Ravenloft is just too dark!) using something like this, and then poof! an indication that such software maybe isn't a good idea - perhaps even regardless of intent?

[guzzlr]

Very interesting. I can't even adjust my brightness or gamma in game anymore. Some areas are extremely difficult to see (silly old eyes).

[losian2]

And there I was thinking it would be great to put my monitor's Gamma back to normal (otherwise Ravenloft is just too dark!) using something like this, and then poof! an indication that such software maybe isn't a good idea - perhaps even regardless of intent?

Read between the lines here.

It'd be hard for most devs to downright say "this third party program is 100% acceptable" when that program can be altered at any tie in the future in ways that could affect gameplay or provide various advantages.

Let's assume someone who has a hand in ReShade, or maybe even just anyone really since it appears to have some open source component, decides to adjust reshade to alter something about the way D&D displays some particular thing - think like in WoW where "it's just a graphic mod" made flags way big in PvP so you could see them clipping and couldn't hide. It's just a client-side graphical mod with no overt gameplay effect, but that is obviously the intent. There are a lot of ways to "just do graphic changes" that can be an obvious effort to essentially cheat. Or look at where FFXI ended up - a program that "just helps you play in a window" and "manage macros" actually became the end-all-beat-all auto-bot for hotswapping gear faster and more reliably than any player ever should and is abused left and right, but "everyone does it." Stuff like that is toxic to a game, and is exactly the scenario potential here. Is XYZ innocuous thing fine? Probably. Could it be modified to be not-fine-at-all? Easily, and the devs don't want to give people the onus to do so under the guise of straight up saying "yeah it's totally fine to use that."

So, is Reshade unmodified affecting only color/brightness/etc. purely for cosmetic purposes fine? "Probably." But as soon as the devs say "yeah go ahead and use it!" someone will fiddle with it, find a way to cheat, and then throw that quote around like they weren't obviously cheating and cause a big fuss and act like they should have been safe in doing so. It just isn't worth the headache, considering. I mean, people can't even take being banned for exploiting essentially free xp, they sure will be happy to read into something like that.

[TitusOvid]

You can see the tiles in abbot.

[Tilomere]

I've always wanted a third party program that stops the screen from flashing too brightly.

Nothing else. Anyone know one?

[AbyssalMage]

You can see the tiles in abbot.
Haha, I was wondering what uses said program could provide and then this quote. I'm going with "no" should/will be the official answer.

[jakeelala]

I just checked this program out and it's awesome!

There are so many cool ways to make DDO look fresher/newer.

I really like the adaptive sharpening setting. DDO looks 10 years newer.

If someone can do this third party I'd love to know why SSG can't just do it themselves?

[CaptainPurge]

Can you see through things such as fog and sleet storm effects? We might be onto a "slippery slope" here...

[guzzlr]

For some reason when playing DDO (no other games) my FPS drops to nearly zero for a few seconds when the TR blue aura lights up around me, or when a hireling pops in on top of me, or when I am around giants with displacement on. Get a couple giants around me and I have to point the camera down and just keep swinging. Also, when going into Ravenloft, I also have to knock down the setting so some of the mists don't kill my FPS.

By turning off post processing and some other "pretty" setting I can minimize the impact, but I would LOVE to reduce/turn off those two "features."

[Seikojin]

For some reason when playing DDO (no other games) my FPS drops to nearly zero for a few seconds when the TR blue aura lights up around me, or when a hireling pops in on top of me, or when I am around giants with displacement on. Get a couple giants around me and I have to point the camera down and just keep swinging. Also, when going into Ravenloft, I also have to knock down the setting so some of the mists don't kill my FPS.

By turning off post processing and some other "pretty" setting I can minimize the impact, but I would LOVE to reduce/turn off those two "features."

Drop to a lower version of direct X. It sucks and turns off a lot of other thrills and gimmicks, however the shader pipelines for certain DX shaders suck on some flavors of graphic adapters. I find this to be the case with 100% of games developed, ever. The developers have to have the hardware in question, then develop Band-Aid code to help support that poor shader performance. Usually they have to put some commented lines in the config files for the game, so if your card happens to be called out, it uses some injected config values instead of the defaults built into the games code.

[goldgolem]

And there I was thinking it would be great to put my monitor's Gamma back to normal (otherwise Ravenloft is just too dark!) using something like this, and then poof! an indication that such software maybe isn't a good idea - perhaps even regardless of intent?




Ah the old grammer nazi route to create drama! Let me help you out here. He meant its fine to use it

[Seikojin]

It's not really something we can give an official opinion on, particularly since it's always theoretically possible the program could allow people to do something that would not be permitted, or updated in a way that allows it to be used for something it currently can't be used for. That said, in general a program that would just adjust graphical settings, colors, and shading doesn't seem like an issue, as it wouldn't impact gameplay.


I gave it a whirl and not many of the options seemed useful to me. Reminds me of minecrafts shader packs.

The best 2 things: fps and clock. Mainly having an in game clock instead of running the game in a reduced resolution (windowed mode). Some items do make the game more interesting with lighting and texture colors, however none of the depth of field things worked, and that would have been the thing I would have liked the most.

[CaptainPurge]

... Some items do make the game more interesting with lighting and texture colors, however none of the depth of field things worked, and that would have been the thing I would have liked the most.

That was my biggest question was depth field modification, which is what allows BOOM HEADSHOTS through smoke screen and effects in modern PvP games such as PUBG where it was banned. If you look at ReShade's compatibility list, you see the old games have no depth buffer access.

[Singular]

Hey, just curious if using that produces a high resource cost onto a computer. I use a laptop that runs DDO fine on my TV, but if I turn the settings to high, everything slows down. Curious if that program would help with that. Like, I could set DDO to low and that to higher. I'm guessing it would just cause more issues though.

[Seikojin]

That was my biggest question was depth field modification, which is what allows BOOM HEADSHOTS through smoke screen and effects in modern PvP games such as PUBG where it was banned. If you look at ReShade's compatibility list, you see the old games have no depth buffer access.

Ahh. I mainly checked because DDO wasn't on the game list. I did find a few effects that cleared the screen of all content behind the menu. So not 100% compatible, however most effects did their thing. Yeah, I figure any game who's base libraries on release were Dx 9 won't have any way of getting to the depth buffer.

[AbyssalMage]

I gave it a whirl and not many of the options seemed useful to me. Reminds me of minecrafts shader packs.

The best 2 things: fps and clock. Mainly having an in game clock instead of running the game in a reduced resolution (windowed mode). Some items do make the game more interesting with lighting and texture colors, however none of the depth of field things worked, and that would have been the thing I would have liked the most.
Ewww...A QoL fix developers. Put an option in the UI to give us an in game clock. It really does suck to minimize the screen to check the time. Please! Please! Please!

A further option would be placing an alarm clock/timer for those of us who "lose track of time." But lets start off simple, a clock (with the option to enable/disable).

[Seikojin]

Hey, just curious if using that produces a high resource cost onto a computer. I use a laptop that runs DDO fine on my TV, but if I turn the settings to high, everything slows down. Curious if that program would help with that. Like, I could set DDO to low and that to higher. I'm guessing it would just cause more issues though.

I would imagine it would impact perf. My machine does fairly well on its own, so reshade wouldn't really impact perf on my end. The settings I chose did not cause any perf impact. However I chose options that are overlay effects more than anything. Or color saturation changes. These don't hit the shader pipeline as hard as things that didn't work, like depth of field.

There were some mock DoF items that made the game unplayable.

However for the most part, you can install it, configure, try, and if you don't like it, disable it and not have it impact the game.

[Singular]

I would imagine it would impact perf. My machine does fairly well on its own, so reshade wouldn't really impact perf on my end. The settings I chose did not cause any perf impact. However I chose options that are overlay effects more than anything. Or color saturation changes. These don't hit the shader pipeline as hard as things that didn't work, like depth of field.

There were some mock DoF items that made the game unplayable.

However for the most part, you can install it, configure, try, and if you don't like it, disable it and not have it impact the game.

Thaks for the info!