Beloved spy of Vol, a vistani Harper cleric

[Vish]

The beloved spy of vol
A vistani Harper cleric
A vendetta build
12/5/3 cleric rogue monk
Human LN
Luck domain

Str 8
Dex 16
Con 14
Int 16 +7
Wis 14
Cha 12
+6 tomes
+2 complete

Skills Umd, trapper, heal, jump

1 rogue twf
Human CE
2 monk dodge
3 cleric completionist
4 monk mobility
5 rogue
6 cleric empower heal
7 monk fists of darkness
8-9 cleric quicken
10 cleric. At 10 5/3/2
11 rogue
12 cleric ic pierce
13-15 cleric itwf
16 rogue
17-18 cleric gtwf
19 cleric beloved of vol
20 rogue spy of vol

Ap
41 vistani
18 Harper
14 assassin
6 henshin
1 Shintao
5 human (racial)

Epic
21 oc
24 mof
26 PTWF
27 blinding speed
28 elusive tgt
29 fount of life
30 Astral
Gmof

Running in dreadnought

Notes
This build was inspired after seeing a preview of barovia.
Knife fighting is a specialty of the vistani,
And I wondered what a priest of vol, a dagger cleric,
Would look like.
First of all it must be a cleric, so at least 11 levels for heal. And it's a spy, so it needs ninja and assassin. And it's a double spy, so it's a Harper.
41 into vistani for vendetta. This is a vendetta build.
18 into Harper for int to hit damage and kta
14 into assassin for flavor. I had 29 here. Venomed blades.
6 henshin for 20 mp and being a mystic
1 Shintao for thinking about being a monastic
5 human because we should all have 5 racial by now.

A very self contained spy, can trap and heal. And has learned the ways of the vistani. An advance scout.

Now, all I got to do is wait for the expansion to drop, earn the favor, and build it. Others are welcome to give it a try.

Oh, and yes I had to go monk. For super flavor, a dark henshin mystic using centered with daggers as taught by the vistani.
And about vendetta. Has unique bonus, so this is some kinda wrastling with Strahd over something dark. And they sent a double agent of good to find out. Maybe make a deal of some kind.

Comments welcome

[hombokai]

This is just a personal flavor comment. For me I would try for 6 monk just because I think Shadow Veil is so cool. XD

[Pnumbra]

So nice to see some well thought out flavor builds for Vistani. This is excellent.

[Vish]

This is just a personal flavor comment. For me I would try for 6 monk just because I think Shadow Veil is so cool. XD

Ya, you could go 12/6/2
That's actually a better split
When I brainstormed this build I originally had 29 into assassin, and then I did vistani and Harper ap and realize I didn't have the room. So I scaled it back. But I had figured 5 levels for tier4, because odd breaks on rogue.
But you could go 2 rogue and still get venomed blades, and 6 monk shadow veil.
Even tho, I never run shadow veil on my monks, find I don't need it and ap other places, so I never really figure it into my builds. But by going 6 monk you have to change out ap
41, 18, 11 henshin for 30 mp, 8 assassin for blades, and 11 for shadow veil,
Nope see doesn't add up, 10 over. So it's a choice over blades or veil. And I went with 20 mp and scales with mp blades over veil.
But you could go 6 monk for the extra feat and 10 mp from henshin. Or blades and veil, lose the mp. But I would always take mp on a melee build.

So the role behind this character is that he has double evasion from monk and rouge, can trap excellent, can vistani and vol dps, is a double agent because he's Harper, can heal and maybe turn undead, maybe the vargouilles, uses venomed blades, he's kinda evil, but do good work, why he's neutral, and by only 3 monk is just a dabbler in the arts.
And he has to be some kind of advance scout because he has learned the ways of the vistani and is using them to infiltrate strahds house.
Something like that.
And he's lucky, but not that lucky. You could also go 14 cleric and get no fail saves.
But he's a spy and his nature will catch up to him.
;)

Edit
Oh ya this build has displacement!

[Saekee]

any chance of getting Sting in ninja tree and venomed blades from Assassin? Great synergy.
You can go dex based and use the upcoming gear for dex will saves.

[Vish]

any chance of getting Sting in ninja tree and venomed blades from Assassin? Great synergy.
You can go dex based and use the upcoming gear for dex will saves.

Sting would be 12, blades 8
Min Harper 12, min vistani 41
Leaves 7
6 henshin for 20 mp, and 1 Shintao for 10 pos hamp

And you could go 14/3/3 and get the no fail saves.

I don't think I would go dex based.
The whole idea behind this build was a vol cleric trapper.
It's been my experience for epic trapping you need to go int based.
So I figured a cleric int based. Has to go all out.
Originally I had 16 wis, because that's good for both cleric and monk and spot and saves, but I split it 14 12 cha, because I thought a spy should be charismatic, a bit. Helps turning, but he won't turn well. Kinda more flavor.
But I'm set on the Harper thing, double agent idea. Only way to go int based.
And doubling down on vol and vistani. Get vampirism too.

But I had idea for 5 rouge due to skill points
Should have plenty if space rogue every 5 levels. Monk get good skill points to, but cleric sucks.
If you go 3 rogue you prob lose open locks, but your dex will be lower anyhow, and I've not found ol to be worth investing anyway, not that many chests.
Because on those off levels disable and search cost 4 and on a cleric level you would have 5 to start. Goes up to 6 and 7. And if you add Umd that is 6. Leaves no room for heal and jump. Or spot. And monk levels early mean spot adds clumped. And 2 more rogue at 10 and 20 would have 12 and 13, but need 10 each skill to break even. So very tight with 3. Min max trapper, prob no spot if you want jump. Because you have to slot int dex wis and con on this build. So 5 would be better trapper by far, but the no fail saves are prob worth it, wouldn't need epic reflexes.

So I'm thinking 14/3/3 now
With blades and sting

[Vish]

You can go dex based and use the upcoming gear for dex will saves.

if you wanted to go dex,
Prob go hide based and go ethereal
Lose a lot of sneak attack by so few rogue levels
But you'd have more ap by giving up Harper
Maybe a 12/5/3 cleric rogue monk?
Or a 13/5/2...
Would be on a different mission

[Vish]

Here Is my entry for rogue vistani,


Spy of vol
16/3/1 rogue monk fvs
Ln human

Str 8
Dex 18 +7
Con 14
Int 15
Wis 14
Cha 8
+6 tomes
+2 complete

Skills Umd trapper hide

1 rogue twf
Feat CE
2 monk dodge
3 monk precision
Feat completionist
4-6 rogue improved feint
7-9 rogue itwf
10 monk fists of darkness
11-12 rogue ic pierce
13 improved evasion
13-15 rogue mof
16 opportunist
16-18 rogue gmof
19 rogue opportunist
20 fvs spy of vol divine will

21 oc
24 imp sneak attack
26 PTWF
27 blinding speed
28 elusive tgt
29 chaos or dire charge
30 ethereal
Gtwf

Ap
41 vistani
17 assassin
12 ninja
6 henshin
4 war soul
1 human (racial)

Notes
My spy of vol
An ethereal rogue mystic
Learned vendetta from the vistani
Tied up with the beloved spy to infiltrate Strahd
Go hide in shadows for max sneak
Ap breakdown
41 vistani
6 Vistani core6
6 Knife fighting undead killer rapid attack mist stalker
6 knife bleeding cuts mist stalker
8 knife mist deadly blades +1dex
9 knife mist celerity double daggers +1dex
8 knife mist vendetta blessed blades
17 assassin
3 core3 assassins trick
5 sneak attack stealthy
5 sneak envenomed blades3 bleed1
4 sneak +1 dex
12 ninja
1 core1
5 sneak stealthy
4 sneak agility2
2 sting of the ninja
6 henshin
2 core2
4 clever monkey negotiator2
4 war soul
1 core1
3 divine will
1 human (racial)
1 damage boost

[unbongwah]

Apart from the lower AP cost, is there any particular reason to use War Soul's Divine Will rather than Harper's Know the Angles? Seems like higher INT is more useful than higher WIS on this build (extra skill pts etc.). It doesn't seem like you need anything more from Assassin than 13 APs for Assassin's Trick and 3rd rank of SA Training. And that would let you splash a different 3rd class, e.g., druid for Ram's Might.

But if want to stick with FvS, I think the rog 13 / monk 6 / FvS 1 split is stronger just for Shadow Veil: something like 41 VKF (capstone) / 13 Ninja (SotN + SV) / 11 Assassin (Trick+Venomed Blades) / 6 Henshin (+20 MP) / 3 WaS / 3 Acro (Fast Movement) / 3 human (dmg boost + heal amp). Or maybe 6 Assassin / 11 Henshin for +10 MP.

[Vish]

Apart from the lower AP cost, is there any particular reason to use War Soul's Divine Will rather than Harper's Know the Angles? Seems like higher INT is more useful than higher WIS on this build (extra skill pts etc.). It doesn't seem like you need anything more from Assassin than 13 APs for Assassin's Trick and 3rd rank of SA Training. And that would let you splash a different 3rd class, e.g., druid for Ram's Might.

But if want to stick with FvS, I think the rog 13 / monk 6 / FvS 1 split is stronger just for Shadow Veil: something like 41 VKF (capstone) / 13 Ninja (SotN + SV) / 11 Assassin (Trick+Venomed Blades) / 6 Henshin (+20 MP) / 3 WaS / 3 Acro (Fast Movement) / 3 human (dmg boost + heal amp). Or maybe 6 Assassin / 11 Henshin for +10 MP.

Haha,
You guys are always trying to sell me on shadow veil
I've run lotta monks, never used it, never needed it

On the split side, I was going in theme with the Harper cleric
Same idea, bump mp and use blades and sting
15 rogue for sneak, 16 for double opportunist
See, maybe he's not Harper, but he's a double opportunist
So maybe a betrayer too
Not an assassin tho
Kinda a mystic, hence 3 monk
6 monk would be too much, and it'd cost 5 ap more in henshin
Tight ap as is
Also 17 is sacred number to him, so kinda assassin superstition

I always design my builds from a role playing perspective,
And from a gut check perspective
So this ones a sneaky bastard

And about the soul aspect
That was kinda mission, he's lawful, and kinda monk side
Gave him combat expertise
Won't have a max wisdom, but good AC and CE gives him flexibility
Go precision for dps and wind stance, go CE and water for defense
The soul ap is 4 can be 2 to squeeze points
It'll get as fair return as kta
For only 2 ap compared to 8, or 6? Min?
So I did different skills on henshin ap, but just for mp
And I never worry fast movement
I got good rng boots and blinding speed in epic
Even tho that could be given up for epic reflexes,
If ravenloft has some speed items, which I recall there is...

I would build it dex int con wis
Easy to slot 4
But it's not as much trapper as dpser
And see, it gets fvs as cap
So he gets converted to the mission of vol just as he capstones
So he infiltrates Barovia and gets in good with the vistani
And carries out his special order

[unbongwah]

15 rogue for sneak, 16 for double opportunist
Pretty sure Skill Mastery is the only rogue bonus feat you're allowed to take more than once.

[Vish]

Pretty sure Skill Mastery is the only rogue bonus feat you're allowed to take more than once.

Pretty sure I'm gonna hafta petition the devs,
You know,
For role playing purposes.
Maybe a gm can grant this?
I mean,
I would if I were DM
;)

[Vish]

Beloved of vol set
For sentience

Suffering, the Half of the Whole
Dagger
6.5 [W]
19-20/x2
Deception +17
Constricting Nightmare Enemies struck by this weapon are stricken with a horrible fear of death, reducing their Physical Resistance and Magical Resistance by 10.
Wounding 5 This weapon saps the health from your enemies, dealing 5 Constitution damage on each hit.
Metalline
Purple Augment Slot
Reg Augment Slot

Pain, the Half of Whole
Dagger
7 [W]
19-20/x2
Fetters of Unreality This weapon is cruel and deadly, and leaves behind wounds that affect both the body and the soul. This weapon has a chance to inflict multiple stacks of Vulnerable.
Improved Deception
Sovereign Vorpal
Insightful Assassinate +4
Purple Augment Slot
Red Augment Slot

Notes
If I ever turn vish into a priest of vol
Here they are