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JOTMON
07-18-2017, 08:10 PM
can we get a reset button added to the stone levelling process.. whether its iconic, epic, lesser.. whatever...

you know.. the pain..

in the midst of doing a reincarnation and realize something was incorrectly taken, whether its a feat, class.. whatever...
and in that moment realize you are screwed and have to finish levelling a broken toon since we currently do not have a go back button...

asking to have that ..' nope.. that's not right.. start again... button..

Think of all the GM intervention that could be avoided since players would not have to harass GMS, bug report.. because something screwed up whether its lag, misclick, or human error.....


a simple [reset] during or even at the end of the process before stepping out the door.

Pyed-Pyper
07-18-2017, 09:04 PM
Something like the character planner, but with 'reset' and 'apply' buttons.

arkonas
07-18-2017, 09:51 PM
can we get a reset button added to the stone levelling process.. whether its iconic, epic, lesser.. whatever...

you know.. the pain..

in the midst of doing a reincarnation and realize something was incorrectly taken, whether its a feat, class.. whatever...
and in that moment realize you are screwed and have to finish levelling a broken toon since we currently do not have a go back button...

asking to have that ..' nope.. that's not right.. start again... button..

Think of all the GM intervention that could be avoided since players would not have to harass GMS, bug report.. because something screwed up whether its lag, misclick, or human error.....


a simple [reset] during or even at the end of the process before stepping out the door.

you know i actually agree with this. it should be applied to all hearts. I know there are a few times i would love to have a reset button before you finish it.

ssgcmwatson
07-18-2017, 10:44 PM
you know i actually agree with this. it should be applied to all hearts. I know there are a few times i would love to have a reset button before you finish it.

^^^ QFT

/signed

acdcrocks
07-19-2017, 02:51 AM
can we get a reset button added to the stone levelling process.. whether its iconic, epic, lesser.. whatever...

you know.. the pain..

in the midst of doing a reincarnation and realize something was incorrectly taken, whether its a feat, class.. whatever...
and in that moment realize you are screwed and have to finish levelling a broken toon since we currently do not have a go back button...

asking to have that ..' nope.. that's not right.. start again... button..

Think of all the GM intervention that could be avoided since players would not have to harass GMS, bug report.. because something screwed up whether its lag, misclick, or human error.....


a simple [reset] during or even at the end of the process before stepping out the door.

^^^^^

Please devs? :DDD

TDarkchylde
07-19-2017, 04:05 AM
This would definitely make it less nerve-wracking to either Lesser or Epic Reincarnate, or to TR into an Iconic. Please, Devs, make this a thing.

Sqrlmonger
07-19-2017, 02:58 PM
I would actually rather see them create a file format that character planners could output and the game would accept.

Then you could just go up to the reincarnation NPC and select the option "Follow an External Path". It would then read a folder under the main DDO folder and present a list of choices based on valid files in the directory and you choose one and it asks "are you sure you want to follow the external path [filename]?". You click yes and boom you're fully leveled.

C-Dog
07-19-2017, 03:08 PM
+1, and then more!

TR'ing can be a long process. At best, you have a sheet of notes that you're referring to. Even assuming you get the notes right, level after level, RL can step in and call you away from the keyboard. Assuming then that you get back before you're logged out... where are you, again?

"Reset" - solve SO many problems, headaches, heartaches - and the coding seems like it would be relatively straightforward.

(Reset back "-1 level at a time" for bonus points!)

Please?


I would actually rather see them create a file format that character planners could output and the game would accept.
That would be nice, but might be asking too much (depends on coding involved, and also relies on a fan-based 3rd-party program).

JOTMON
07-22-2017, 08:16 PM
Even alignment changes during the LR or the 3 class limit at any point during the process...

Alignment change should be part of the LR process not a pay extra to change in between multiple reincarnations to change classes that are alignment dependant.

all that matters is its right at the end before you exit.

Something that should be covered by a check and balance at the end that denies the character finish due to something being incorrect.




Dev's haven't touched this topic since day one when LR's first came out.. guess they are happy with the current mechanic of the DDO store fix.
Sure seems like they prefer to screw players out of cash than putting time into updating the reincarnation process to be user friendly...

EllisDee37
07-22-2017, 09:18 PM
That would be nice, but might be asking too much (depends on coding involved, and also relies on a fan-based 3rd-party program).Actually, no, it would be the other way around: 3rd-party programs would rely on the xml structure the game uses.

I posted this idea somewhat recently:
If the game were to add "saved builds" like they have saved layouts, the idea would be you could choose a build file at creation and then a snapshot of that build file is saved into your character data (a memo field?) at that point. Further changes to your build file wouldn't have any effect on characters already created with it. I could envision two ways to create a build file:

Simply save a build file of the current character's build with something like "bld layout save xxx". Boom, your build file is created.
Enter a dojo-style area, level from creation to 30, then save that build to a file using "bld layout save xxx". Characters in the live version of this dojo wouldn't be allowed to leave the dojo, as they wouldn't be real characters.

I would dearly love that second option, as it would mean I could officially retire my character builder.

Actual use of the build file in-game would work just like a default path: Choose build path at levelup, or leave the path.The quoted idea would be fully functional without any 3rd party tools at all. It's basically a way to snapshot your level 30 character before doing an ETR so you could just click "stay on my path" 19 times to go from 1 to 20.

But if they introduced such a feature, the very first thing I would do would be to add an export feature to my character builder that would create the xml files the game would be using.

Pyed-Pyper
07-23-2017, 12:13 AM
Actually, no, it would be the other way around: 3rd-party programs would rely on the xml structure the game uses.

I posted this idea somewhat recently:The quoted idea would be fully functional without any 3rd party tools at all. It's basically a way to snapshot your level 30 character before doing an ETR so you could just click "stay on my path" 19 times to go from 1 to 20.

But if they introduced such a feature, the very first thing I would do would be to add an export feature to my character builder that would create the xml files the game would be using.


At some point in the past, there was a discussion about how to improve DDO. Some person who I cannot remember brought up an example from another game. Their general point was that there are some on-line games that have features that can be used while not logged into the game.

Applying that concept to your post, imagine using a smart phone (for example) to build a character while at work, at lunch, or the opera. Instead of being the oblivious jerk playing candy crush on the subway, one could be the cool oblivious jerk creating a new Reaper-crushing build to be uploaded after getting home.

pjw
07-23-2017, 12:42 AM
can we get a reset button added to the stone levelling process

Sounds good.

Add to that a 'reset' button to any character that just resets their XP to 0 with no benefits to the user, and allows recreation from the character screen, and I'd be very happy. Call it a 'Minor Reincarnation' or something...for those pesky iconic builds, or for people who didn't realize their mistakes until too late.

PermaBanned
07-23-2017, 01:37 AM
Definitely /signed for adding a "Reset" option, preferably available during- but at least at the end of- the process.


Sure seems like they prefer to screw players out of cash than putting time into updating the reincarnation process to be user friendly...To ^that end^ however, it's amazing how many mistakes can be avoided on the computer if one first prepares with the ancient-but-still-viable pencil & paper. While waiting for SSG to implement (with no guarantee they will) a pound of cure, I'd recomend an ounce of prevention ;)

PermaBanned
07-23-2017, 01:44 AM
Add to that a 'reset' button to any character that just resets their XP to 0 with no benefits to the user, and allows recreation from the character screen, and I'd be very happy. Call it a 'Minor Reincarnation' or something...for those pesky iconic builds, or for people who didn't realize their mistakes until too late.
I actually have an RL friend who just started coming back (he's looking forward to Ravenloft) after over a two year break. A lot has changed, his builds aren't in any spec for today's game, but he doesn't want to delete & reroll characters with Tomes, TRs and such. He was disappointed at the lack of $tore opportunity to re$et his characters to level one on their current life. Recently saw a similar request on the forum too...

$$G - there'$ an opportunity here knocking for you ;)

Eryhn
07-23-2017, 01:54 AM
this is a very good idea in terms of the 90% of botched leveling processes that end up being sorted up by taking up GM time

it is a bad idea in terms of the 10% where people just go "jeezus ******* christ! - well, I did that myself, doh - **** it, gonna buy another lesser heart"


or so I would think when trying to look at it from a viewpoint not player centered :D

Stoner81
07-23-2017, 05:21 AM
Some really awesome ideas!

/signed to everything!

Stoner81.

Saekee
07-23-2017, 06:37 AM
Actually, no, it would be the other way around: 3rd-party programs would rely on the xml structure the game uses.

I posted this idea somewhat recently:The quoted idea would be fully functional without any 3rd party tools at all. It's basically a way to snapshot your level 30 character before doing an ETR so you could just click "stay on my path" 19 times to go from 1 to 20.

But if they introduced such a feature, the very first thing I would do would be to add an export feature to my character builder that would create the xml files the game would be using.

great ideas everyone

Let me add a silly one--I had finished an ER and accidently double-clicked so my toon had an appalling cosmetic hair/head/face combo.

JOTMON
07-23-2017, 11:43 AM
great ideas everyone

Let me add a silly one--I had finished an ER and accidently double-clicked so my toon had an appalling cosmetic hair/head/face combo.

another area of the game that is underutilized..

the fashion over function boutiques..
an NPC store where you can go and have cosmetic work done..
hair styles, color changes, face lifts, nose jobs, other cosmetic work...