Jibber's farming

[Vint]

I just wanted to get opinions on what difficulty I should be farming to get the blade. I have ransacked the chest 3 weeks in a row on EE (including rerolls). Would I have better luck on EH or should I continue to farm EE?

[Krelar]

Reaper 10.


Someone just posted a flawless duo run so it can't be that hard... :p

[Vint]

Reaper 10.


Someone just posted a flawless duo run so it can't be that hard... :p

The way my luck is, this is probably the only way I'll ever see one.

[LeoLionxxx]

Reaper 10.


Someone just posted a flawless duo run so it can't be that hard... :p

Just so people aren't misconceived: Drop rate of named loot is the same though out all Reaper difficulties.

If you're breezing though EE, then keep on with that. Otherwise, EH is likely to be faster.

When farming an item like that, it's a good idea to have a group - a lot of players already have blades, so they'll be happy to pass to you if they have the good fortune to pull it. And if you get a full group of the right level, you might consider doing Reaper to up the odds.

[Wizza]

Just so people aren't misconceived: Drop rate of named loot is the same though out all Reaper difficulties.


Its not, or at least Developers confirmed that Named items have higher drop rates the higher the skulls are.

That being said, two runs on R10, 12 rerolls, no Jibber. Their "higher drop rates" has become pretty much a joke by now.

[MaxBhaalspawn]

Probably my imagination but after 80 runs with no jibbers for me I noticed that when you kill all vampires boost drop rate. When I was in groups who kill vampires some one got it. So at my run #81 in solo EE I killed every vampires including the one who keep's falling and restore full health. And finaly got it. And **** usefull in reaper. I wish you luck

[Gargoyle69]

Its not, or at least Developers confirmed that Named items have higher drop rates the higher the skulls are.

Do you have a source for that? As the only Dev statement I have seen is confirmation that reaper drop rates are higher than elite, but nothing saying higher skulls were any different than lower ones. I would love to see confirmation if we do have it.

Thanks in advance.

[Wizza]

Do you have a source for that? As the only Dev statement I have seen is confirmation that reaper drop rates are higher than elite, but nothing saying higher skulls were any different than lower ones. I would love to see confirmation if we do have it.

Thanks in advance.


The "Reaper Power" effect grants all 3 of Melee Power, Ranged Power, and Spell Power.

The bonuses do not currently have a range. The values listed in my previous post are the only currrently planned variations.

The percentage chance for a named item to have a Reaper Bonus when it drops is higher at higher skull ratings. This is in addition to the chance for a named item to drop at all increasing at higher skull ratings. While completing higher skull ratings is expected to be much slower the actual chance of gaining these bonuses is, all told, proportionally much higher at 10 skulls than 1 skull (and increasing at every step in between of course).

Dont worry, I am sure it either doesnt work, or the higher chances mean 0,00001% chance higher. No Developers nor Severlin ever chimed in on the issue, and I do not expect them to. Sticking their heads into the sand is what has always worked best in DDO.

You are better of farming R1 and reroll, if you ask me, since its much faster.

[cru212]

Dont worry, I am sure it either doesnt work, or the higher chances mean 0,00001% chance higher. No Developers nor Severlin ever chimed in on the issue, and I do not expect them to. Sticking their heads into the sand is what has always worked best in DDO.

You are better of farming R1 and reroll, if you ask me, since its much faster.

That quote is pretty ambiguous, if you check ddowiki there is a YouTube quote of Coco saying that reaper has higher drop rate of named items than elite, but higher skull rating does not increase the rate. More skulls mean higher chance of mythic/reaper bonuses. Those are not relevant for jibbers

[Wizza]

That quote is pretty ambiguous, if you check ddowiki there is a YouTube quote of Coco saying that reaper has higher drop rate of named items than elite, but higher skull rating does not increase the rate. More skulls mean higher chance of mythic/reaper bonuses. Those are not relevant for jibbers

The quote itself is not ambiguous. It clearly states:


This is in addition to the chance for a named item to drop at all increasing at higher skull ratings.

The fact that then a Developer said the opposite is another story, and not the first time it happens either. The Developers themselves are ambiguous.

[Niminae]

I just wanted to get opinions on what difficulty I should be farming to get the blade. I have ransacked the chest 3 weeks in a row on EE (including rerolls). Would I have better luck on EH or should I continue to farm EE?

Given that I can't get it to drop for me, I have no advice for you.


Its not, or at least Developers confirmed that Named items have higher drop rates the higher the skulls are.

That being said, two runs on R10, 12 rerolls, no Jibber. Their "higher drop rates" has become pretty much a joke by now.

I have also done a full set of rerolls several times on R3-5 with zero luck, in addition to a wealth of runs on EE or R1 daily for weeks and across several lives even prior to the introduction of Reaper mode. The increased drop rate for running in reaper mode seems to be very marginal. My sample size is small overall I will have to admit, and I haven't kept records so I can't state that I've done X runs on Y difficulty without any luck, but it is a sample size of at least ~200+ runs on varying levels from EE to R5 across time.

At least within the past 4 months I've finally actually seen it drop. Prior to that not only had I never had it drop for me, which is still the case, but I'd never seen it drop at all regardless of how many others were in the group. Now I've seen it drop 3 times when I was in the group. So at least I know that it isn't a unicorn. ;)


Probably my imagination but after 80 runs with no jibbers for me I noticed that when you kill all vampires boost drop rate. When I was in groups who kill vampires some one got it. So at my run #81 in solo EE I killed every vampires including the one who keep's falling and restore full health. And finaly got it. And **** usefull in reaper. I wish you luck

I've never not done the vampires optional. It is so very trivial to do just while running the quest that I've never considered skipping the single vamp that you can skip. Still no Jibbers...

[Rys]

I just wanted to get opinions on what difficulty I should be farming to get the blade. I have ransacked the chest 3 weeks in a row on EE (including rerolls). Would I have better luck on EH or should I continue to farm EE?

EE if you are able to do it in the reasonable amount of time. R10 not worth unless you have a full party of uber zergers since I didn't really notice any change in the drop rates.

[Gargoyle69]

This is in addition to the chance for a named item to drop at all increasing at higher skull ratings.

Thanks for providing that!


there is a YouTube quote of Coco saying that reaper has higher drop rate of named items than elite, but higher skull rating does not increase the rate.

Hmm... If that's true then that's pretty confusing :-\

[cru121]

snip

meh multiple ddo subscriptions, forums, and posting from phone.

anyway, it seems that Tech successfully managed to destroy the link to the quote.
(https://www.twitch.tv/ddostream/v/115636988, 0:31:20)


The fact that then a Developer said the opposite is another story

They don't have a clue. It could well be that reaper reduces drop rates.

[Wizza]

meh multiple ddo subscriptions, forums, and posting from phone.

anyway, it seems that Tech successfully managed to destroy the link to the quote.
(https://www.twitch.tv/ddostream/v/115636988, 0:31:20)



They don't have a clue. It could well be that reaper reduces drop rates.

Spotted the sock! Jk jk :)

Thanks for the link. I agree with your last sentence.

And all the discussions including R10 makes even less sense. A quest on R10 takes 10x times longer and, at the same time, being harder but has no higher drop rates than a zerg on R1? Not counting the RXP being pathetic, and the level lockout locking us from playing the content we want. Ridicolous.

[Rys]

anyway, it seems that Tech successfully managed to destroy the link to the quote.
(https://www.twitch.tv/ddostream/v/115636988, 0:31:20)

Hah interesting :D One reason less to run the higher skulls. I don't have a big enough sample, but from the playing it really seems it is not either there or it is so little, you can't even tell the difference.

[Sam-u-r-eye]

r1 full group of people who want to help you, or at least part

or find a friend and then do it together until you both have em', its less painful that way.

Cheers~

[Chai]

Its not about difficulty setting, its about wanting the item. The more you want it the less it drops. If you couldnt care less if you got one, it will eventually drop. Then once you get one, it drops again like every 5th run but only for the same character that already has one.

[Cantor]

I got 4 or 5 of them before they nerfed the drop rate and passed (all but 1) to various guildies. The claim about the vamp optional would be cool if true, I really like for optional to have a real impact. I all always do that one anyway since it's not too much out of the way.

[Rys]

Its not about difficulty setting, its about wanting the item. The more you want it the less it drops. If you couldnt care less if you got one, it will eventually drop. Then once you get one, it drops again like every 5th run but only for the same character that already has one.

Not really. Farmed the blade on my main when it came out. Since then did many many runs while having the blade and have never seen one.

[bracelet]

I have seen a few on EH and more than a few on EE. But it's hard to say that EE is a lot better, because I tend to run in groups when I do EE, which increases the odds of seeing one by virtue of more hands in chest. We are not talking 24 runs here though. This would be daily XP runs over months. I do feel like EE is better though. But it's tough to solo without immunity to petrification.

[Vulkoorex]

I have 5 toons that went into epics. Got them each a Jibber. Usually running EN/EH with guildmates. Minimum party size was 2. Included in my daily runs. Usually got a drop in 10 runs. This was before Reaper. So drop rates may have changed.

[Wipey]

But it's tough to solo without immunity to petrification.
Jeweled cloak lasts long enough in the end fight if your damage output is not abysmal. Bring lots of fort debuffs, ignore the ads.
There's also Crusader but that's rather crappy compared to Blitz or Fury.

Better drop rates in high skulls are just nonsense.
Consistently getting middle finger in 7+. Especially 10 skull Memoirs for the bloody helmet.

[Vint]

Thanks for all the responses. I just ransacked the quests (two boxing) on EE rerolling every time, and nada.
Maybe next week I'll try EH and if that doesn't work, Ill take some advice and start pugging it on reaper.

[mr420247]

Your best bet id guess is

R1 speed farming while 5 boxing

[goodspeed]

Its not, or at least Developers confirmed that Named items have higher drop rates the higher the skulls are.

That being said, two runs on R10, 12 rerolls, no Jibber. Their "higher drop rates" has become pretty much a joke by now.

lol of course theirs a higher drop rate. it increases by 0.015% at 10 skulls.

[Niminae]

But it's tough to solo without immunity to petrification.

I've seen this observation a few times. I've run TTT a very large number of times, solo and in groups, and I have never, not once, been petrified. I didn't even know he had that ability until I saw it mentioned on the forums... Maybe you should work on your saving throws instead of worrying about a blanket immunity.

[Stoner81]

Pulled mine on EN and seen a few more drop to on that difficulty.

Stoner81.

[Saekee]

just an anecdote: I pulled mine a year ago or so and didn't even realize what it was at first lol

[zehnvhex]

They don't have a clue. It could well be that reaper reduces drop rates.


Hah interesting :D One reason less to run the higher skulls. I don't have a big enough sample, but from the playing it really seems it is not either there or it is so little, you can't even tell the difference.


Keep in mind this is the dev team that took ~13 posts across the span of 4 days even still not come to a consensus if reaper was supposed to be based off base quest level or adjusted quest level. All of their initial posts, if you recall, were based on elite difficulty. It was only when Reaper mode went live that they pulled a 180. My guess is they didn't know how to fix it so they just said "meh, wai" and it took a few meetings for Sev to get the memo. And even after Sev posted "Yeah it's based off normal" we had another dev say "no it's based off elite."

So yeah. I get the impression that everyone at SSG kinda does their own thing and they very rarely are all on the same page when it comes to things like this.

Anyways...

Anecdotal but after about ~150 memoirs runs on R1 and ~80 or so on R6+ I can safely say there is absolutely no difference in named drop rates or the chance of getting a reaper/mythic roll on an item. R1 and R6~10 are functionally the same for chance at pulling a good item. If there is a difference it is statistically irrelevant.

There does however seem to be a small boost going from EE to R1 however.

Your best bet is to still to bring 5 other people who do not need the item however. A group of 6 on R1 > A group of 6 on EN/EH/EE > Solo R1 > Solo EN/EH/EE.

[Niminae]

Keep in mind this is the dev team that took ~13 posts across the span of 4 days even still not come to a consensus if reaper was supposed to be based off base quest level or adjusted quest level. All of their initial posts, if you recall, were based on elite difficulty. It was only when Reaper mode went live that they pulled a 180. My guess is they didn't know how to fix it so they just said "meh, wai" and it took a few meetings for Sev to get the memo. And even after Sev posted "Yeah it's based off normal" we had another dev say "no it's based off elite."

So yeah.

So, yeah indeed.

[Gargoyle69]

Just joined a daily run to TTT with 6 people on EH and a Jibber's blade appeared in the end chest.

The person who got it had already pulled 3 others previously (no idea over what timeframe), so they kindly put it up for roll. Very kind, very generous.

But yeah, it's definitely still dropping, even on EH.

[SpartanKiller13]

Just joined a daily run to TTT with 6 people on EH and a Jibber's blade appeared in the end chest.

The person who got it had already pulled 3 others previously (no idea over what timeframe), so they kindly put it up for roll. Very kind, very generous.

But yeah, it's definitely still dropping, even on EH.

I run 2TT as a daily, and I've pulled 2 on EN so that's a thing.

It's exclusive, so if you have one you should definitely pass any that you pull.

[Rys]

Keep in mind this is the dev team that took ~13 posts across the span of 4 days even still not come to a consensus if reaper was supposed to be based off base quest level or adjusted quest level. All of their initial posts, if you recall, were based on elite difficulty. It was only when Reaper mode went live that they pulled a 180. My guess is they didn't know how to fix it so they just said "meh, wai" and it took a few meetings for Sev to get the memo. And even after Sev posted "Yeah it's based off normal" we had another dev say "no it's based off elite."

I only don't understand the unwillingness to clarify anything concerning reaper. All developer replies are so mixed I am starting to think the communication between developers themselves is as bad as the communication with them on the forums.

[Selvera]

I'm not diligent in making sure I do 2toe every day; but in my experience running it as one of your dailies gets you a jibbers within about 4-6 ETR's. And can often get you an extra or two to pass to your party members. (Yeah, drop rate goes up when you already have one of course.)

[Chai]

I only don't understand the unwillingness to clarify anything concerning reaper. All developer replies are so mixed I am starting to think the communication between developers themselves is as bad as the communication with them on the forums.

The single biggest thing that makes the game "too easy" (something often complained about in the past) is when players know exactly how things work down to the point where they can plan their entire builds, parties, and play style around it. One thing that provides "challenge" (a term much of the feedback was couched in) is not knowing what the thresholds and limitations are.

[AbyssalMage]

All I can say is I got it on an Alternate (grrr...) on EH doing dailies. I decided to get the last bit of xp needed to eTR, instead of logging for the day, and I hadn't done TTT yet. Yeah, it was a shock. I wasn't looking for it. I just wanted the xp.

[Rys]

The single biggest thing that makes the game "too easy" (something often complained about in the past) is when players know exactly how things work down to the point where they can plan their entire builds, parties, and play style around it. One thing that provides "challenge" (a term much of the feedback was couched in) is not knowing what the thresholds and limitations are.

They already replied the question. Only few times differently. I would like to know which one applies in the game. And no it is not anything gamebreaking. Saying the loot drop rate does not scale with higher skulls will just probably save a few unfortunate who are trying to farm Lancener on R10 instead of R1. If it does scale, great, maybe it will encourage some players to try higher skulls.

In my opinion, it does not scale or it scales by a very low number. And I am sure people running high skulls are noticing too. I take it as another fail of reaper implementation.

[Chai]

They already replied the question. Only few times differently. I would like to know which one applies in the game. And no it is not anything gamebreaking. Saying the loot drop rate does not scale with higher skulls will just probably save a few unfortunate who are trying to farm Lancener on R10 instead of R1. If it does scale, great, maybe it will encourage some players to try higher skulls.

In my opinion, it does not scale or it scales by a very low number. And I am sure people running high skulls are noticing too. I take it as another fail of reaper implementation.

I thought they already provided that answer by saying the loot drop rate itself does not scale with higher skulls, but higher skulls means higher chance of reaper bonuses.

I can see Larcener being farmed on R10 if people want the higher chance for reaper bonus on the items. Reaper bonus just doesnt apply to Jibbers, so elite or R1 is likely the best chance, even if its .015% better

[Wizza]

I thought they already provided that answer by saying the loot drop rate itself does not scale with higher skulls, but higher skulls means higher chance of reaper bonuses.

Read the first page of the thread and you can see the confusion.

[Rys]

I thought they already provided that answer by saying the loot drop rate itself does not scale with higher skulls, but higher skulls means higher chance of reaper bonuses.

I can see Larcener being farmed on R10 if people want the higher chance for reaper bonus on the items. Reaper bonus just doesnt apply to Jibbers, so elite or R1 is likely the best chance, even if its .015% better

I can only see people farming Larcener for the +2 ability helmet. The fact there is probably no difference in the drop rate between R1 and R10 is very interesting to say at least.

But as I said, there is really no incentive to run high skull reaper. If there isn't any higher chance to get named loot, even more then.

[Rys]

Either way, I don't advise anyone to waste resources or shards in R10 thinking there might be higher drop rates of the named loot than in R1. After observing SSG's approach, their marketing move is pretty obvious.