View Full Version : Making old raids Reaper friendly for end-gamers.
Mofus
03-17-2017, 04:39 PM
As it is, old raids that a lot of endgamers would like to run on reaper have been locked out due to level restrictions. Would it be possible to add another tab to these raids when entering for legendary. IE heroic, epic, and legendary. The tab would have the same settings as the others, but normal setting would scale all mobs to a comparable level 30 raid. Then there would be hard, elite and finally reaper. This way, capped toons could get full reaper XP and run the old raids that we are locked out of. I would not change the raid loot, other than to have possible reaper bonus like the other quests. And if this worked well, they could add it to other quests, not just raids. It might do something to help those wanting to stay at cap and have more reaper choices.
Powerhungry
03-17-2017, 04:46 PM
As it is, old raids that a lot of endgamers would like to run on reaper have been locked out due to level restrictions. Would it be possible to add another tab to these raids when entering for legendary. IE heroic, epic, and legendary. The tab would have the same settings as the others, but normal setting would scale all mobs to a comparable level 30 raid. Then there would be hard, elite and finally reaper. This way, capped toons could get full reaper XP and run the old raids that we are locked out of. I would not change the raid loot, other than to have possible reaper bonus like the other quests. And if this worked well, they could add it to other quests, not just raids. It might do something to help those wanting to stay at cap and have more reaper choices.
This was the reaper envisioned by endgamers - all content scaled up to legendary for reaper, instead, they put out...elite+ with a strange level limit/lockout
Pyyro_del_Drago
03-17-2017, 04:50 PM
As it is, old raids that a lot of endgamers would like to run on reaper have been locked out due to level restrictions. Would it be possible to add another tab to these raids when entering for legendary. IE heroic, epic, and legendary. The tab would have the same settings as the others, but normal setting would scale all mobs to a comparable level 30 raid. Then there would be hard, elite and finally reaper. This way, capped toons could get full reaper XP and run the old raids that we are locked out of. I would not change the raid loot, other than to have possible reaper bonus like the other quests. And if this worked well, they could add it to other quests, not just raids. It might do something to help those wanting to stay at cap and have more reaper choices.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO /signed
What an easy way to stop the depressing state of endgame
Qezuzu
03-17-2017, 04:53 PM
/signed
Just once, before the game closes or the heat death of the universe, I'd like to experience Epic Demon Queen again.
Mofus
03-19-2017, 01:46 AM
Thanks for the reply's. Hope They do something to improve gameplay for those of us who like endgame.
nokowi
03-19-2017, 02:06 AM
It sounds like a good idea if they can do it.
In the mean time, why not take one of the so many alts that players apparently need RXP shared for, and keep a character at level 25?
If there is enough interest in running old raids on reaper, there should be plenty of players willing to do this.
Big_Russ
03-19-2017, 02:35 AM
/signed
Just once, before the game closes or the heat death of the universe, I'd like to experience Epic Demon Queen again.
DQ? Meh, but would run. Twilight Forge? Yes, please.
Thanks for the reply's. Hope They do something to improve gameplay for those of us who like endgame.
Or for those of us who are simply sick of tr'ing.
Cantor
03-19-2017, 09:46 AM
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO /signed
What an easy way to stop the depressing state of endgame
"easy" as an idea, in principle. The devs have stated before that it takes about as much time to update an old pack to epic as to make a new one. Are you willing to give up ~3 updates to get raids updated to legendary? A lot of people wouldn't be.
But I think you can assume that everything new will have legendary option.
As it is, old raids that a lot of endgamers would like to run on reaper have been locked out due to level restrictions. Would it be possible to add another tab to these raids when entering for legendary. IE heroic, epic, and legendary. The tab would have the same settings as the others, but normal setting would scale all mobs to a comparable level 30 raid. Then there would be hard, elite and finally reaper. This way, capped toons could get full reaper XP and run the old raids that we are locked out of. I would not change the raid loot, other than to have possible reaper bonus like the other quests. And if this worked well, they could add it to other quests, not just raids. It might do something to help those wanting to stay at cap and have more reaper choices.
Yes, please.
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kmoustakas
03-19-2017, 01:29 PM
But we have an end game!
It's run harbor r5 at level 2 without taking level 3 ever. It's a bit depressing, sure, but you might get a mythic +4 miasma's fang that way!
Saekee
03-19-2017, 04:21 PM
yes, /signed even if I am not an 'endgamer'
...before the game closes or the heat death of the universe, I'd like to experience Epic Demon Queen again.
The Epic Demon Queen was asked what she would do if the heat death of the universe was imminent. She said, "keep very still."
(old joke reference)
Talonthedruid
03-19-2017, 04:25 PM
As it is, old raids that a lot of endgamers would like to run on reaper have been locked out due to level restrictions. Would it be possible to add another tab to these raids when entering for legendary. IE heroic, epic, and legendary. The tab would have the same settings as the others, but normal setting would scale all mobs to a comparable level 30 raid. Then there would be hard, elite and finally reaper. This way, capped toons could get full reaper XP and run the old raids that we are locked out of. I would not change the raid loot, other than to have possible reaper bonus like the other quests. And if this worked well, they could add it to other quests, not just raids. It might do something to help those wanting to stay at cap and have more reaper choices.
yes please
Memnir
03-19-2017, 04:28 PM
/signed
Mofus
03-20-2017, 12:07 AM
But we have an end game!It's run harbor r5 at level 2 without taking level 3 ever. It's a bit depressing, sure, but you might get a mythic +4 miasma's fang that way!This doesn't sound like too much fun to me.
gummolo
03-20-2017, 12:27 AM
/signed
kanordog
03-20-2017, 02:06 AM
Yes please.
kmoustakas
03-22-2017, 02:20 PM
This doesn't sound like too much fun to me.
It isn't :(
Pyyro_del_Drago
03-22-2017, 03:22 PM
"easy" as an idea, in principle. The devs have stated before that it takes about as much time to update an old pack to epic as to make a new one. Are you willing to give up ~3 updates to get raids updated to legendary? A lot of people wouldn't be.
But I think you can assume that everything new will have legendary option.
I mean.... If the tour is already epic or has already been made epic and they are not updating the loot I would think they would just have to scale the monsters stats to Legendary...? Can't imagine that is nearly as much work as a full update. Just add a legendary option?
Qezuzu
03-22-2017, 03:31 PM
"easy" as an idea, in principle. The devs have stated before that it takes about as much time to update an old pack to epic as to make a new one. Are you willing to give up ~3 updates to get raids updated to legendary? A lot of people wouldn't be.
But I think you can assume that everything new will have legendary option.
No one is asking for packs, they're asking for raids. And it doesn't have to be all at once.
I don't know what goes behind scaling a raid up to cap but I don't see why they can't do one or two raids an update, in addition to whatever other work is included in those updates. I remember one of the devs saying it only took them a few days to finish Legendary HoX.
The lockout should not have extended to raids. If we really wanted to easy button farm lower level raids we would run them on elite, not reaper.
Daerius of the Blessed Blades
03-22-2017, 03:57 PM
As it is, old raids that a lot of endgamers would like to run on reaper have been locked out due to level restrictions. Would it be possible to add another tab to these raids when entering for legendary. IE heroic, epic, and legendary. The tab would have the same settings as the others, but normal setting would scale all mobs to a comparable level 30 raid. Then there would be hard, elite and finally reaper. This way, capped toons could get full reaper XP and run the old raids that we are locked out of. I would not change the raid loot, other than to have possible reaper bonus like the other quests. And if this worked well, they could add it to other quests, not just raids. It might do something to help those wanting to stay at cap and have more reaper choices.
This. 100% agree.
Cantor
03-23-2017, 10:02 AM
No one is asking for packs, they're asking for raids. And it doesn't have to be all at once.
I don't know what goes behind scaling a raid up to cap but I don't see why they can't do one or two raids an update, in addition to whatever other work is included in those updates. I remember one of the devs saying it only took them a few days to finish Legendary HoX.
Lots of raids though, about as many quests worth as 4 packs or more.
I'll concede that if there is absolutely no loot work then maybe it could be done in less time. But, I also contend that it would be less than 2 hours before forum posts and bug reports of <Legendary Raid> dropping heroic loot. And plenty of sarcastic WOOHOO! with screenshots of heroic loot in legendary raids.
SerPounce
03-23-2017, 12:01 PM
/signed
Seems like they're trying to solve a problem that doesn't really exist, or is so minor that it just doesn't matter. Raiding is fun. When I do raids I feel more positive about the game. Why do anything that's going to make it less practical for people to put together raid groups?
I can kind of understand why they have the lockout for quests. They don't want people farming out a silver longbow, or whatever, with a reaper bonus at lvl 30. I'm not sure that it's really the problem they think it is, but I get it. But with raids it just doesn't make sense. That loot has such low drop rates and is mostly useless anyway that I just can't see why they'd be worried about making it too easy to get say seven-fingered gloves.
/signed
Seems like they're trying to solve a problem that doesn't really exist, or is so minor that it just doesn't matter. Raiding is fun. When I do raids I feel more positive about the game. Why do anything that's going to make it less practical for people to put together raid groups?
I can kind of understand why they have the lockout for quests. They don't want people farming out a silver longbow, or whatever, with a reaper bonus at lvl 30. I'm not sure that it's really the problem they think it is, but I get it. But with raids it just doesn't make sense. That loot has such low drop rates and is mostly useless anyway that I just can't see why they'd be worried about making it too easy to get say seven-fingered gloves.
Because if someone farms a Shining Crest of St. Markus with reaper bonuses on it on a level 30 character they'd be OP.
Wait, no they wouldnt. :p
nm
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