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archest
03-08-2017, 09:26 AM
get off the horse and lower the buyout prices . you not helping anyone in your own party by pricing this out of affordability.
why not combine all server Auction Houses to one server so posting can be across servers.


100's of thousands of pp .
for a 1st life toon its not unlimited pp nor welcoming to the game.
just a bad experience .

pawn shops are better since they are populated with stuff now.

Enoach
03-08-2017, 09:36 AM
People have always used the AH in different ways...

Some people price things high hoping that the higher price makes stuff look like it might be rare/hard to get.

Some people price things high because they think it is worth that amount.

Some people price things high because they ran out of storage space and even a 50 limit gives some room, and worst case if someone does buy the item they are not really out as they have some coin for it.

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Trying to tell them it hurts people by pricing it too high is just going to fall on deaf ears. The only way to really get their attention is to not buy the item and to undercut them when you can. Some people it will take a long time to get the message others will adjust.

But the ASAH does not help much as people have moved more and more to this.

jalont
03-08-2017, 09:56 AM
Plat is worthless. The Plat economy has been broken for years and years and years and now most people have basically unlimited platinum. That's why prices are so high. The ASAH is the main economy now, and it's better designed. Prices on there aren't high.

Brandwynn
03-08-2017, 10:01 AM
**shrugs** I try to keep the price at the stated price of the item. Except for jewelry.. Rings and necklaces. Those I find sell faster when I bump the price a 1000%. Why? Who the frick knows. I can post a ring that is worth say 9200plat. The buyout is at that 9200plat. Watch it sit through three days of not selling on the AH. Bump the price 1000%. Watch it sell in minutes after reposting on the AH. I do not pretend to understand the market forces within the game. Just know that for some items, higher is better. Others 'at cost'. Still, others items will not sell all that well. No matter at what price you put them on the AH. Such as shields or docents.

AzB
03-08-2017, 10:40 AM
My experience has been that I can basically double the value and it will probably sell. Some things like holy weapons, heroic level trinkets, high level insightful stuff, and rare items can bring much higher payouts. But the stuff that just won't sell will almost sell if priced 2k above it's value.

This is how it worked with a healthy population. Nowadays, I chuck stuff up at cost just to help newbies out. I have plenty of plat. Anything of any real value goes on the shard exchange.

Amundir
03-08-2017, 10:45 AM
I know people use the AC for banking. Which the other day I thought it would be interesting if DDO implemented a buyout limit of something like x * base price. Dunno what X would be. But then I closed the AC and stopped caring again.

JOTMON
03-08-2017, 12:18 PM
get off the horse and lower the buyout prices . you not helping anyone in your own party by pricing this out of affordability.
why not combine all server Auction Houses to one server so posting can be across servers.


100's of thousands of pp .
for a 1st life toon its not unlimited pp nor welcoming to the game.
just a bad experience .

pawn shops are better since they are populated with stuff now.

We don't have horses in DDO...

complaining about prices in the AH.. that's a fail..
Its an auction house
the market dictates the pricing. if it is priced too high.. no one buys..

Plat is easy to get in the game, take some time to understand the market.
farm for sellable items.. things like collectibles are easy money makers..

.. there are lots of players that will help you out if you ask nicely.
throw a request up in the general chats for some help, join a guild, ..

Amundir
03-08-2017, 12:23 PM
Perhaps a price range filter would be useful.

AbyssalMage
03-08-2017, 12:39 PM
Plat is worthless. The Plat economy has been broken for years and years and years and now most people have basically unlimited platinum. That's why prices are so high.
The amount of Scrolls people need to purchase to be "competent" in Reaper 5+ may start draining some of these players resources :p


The ASAH is the main economy now, and it's better designed. Prices on there aren't high.
I guess it must be relative. $200 to $300 for a virtual item doesn't seem to be "well designed" or "aren't too high." Then again, I know for some people, that is a night out at the bar.

Ulfo
03-09-2017, 05:22 AM
$200 to $300 for a virtual item doesn't seem to be "well designed" or "aren't too high." Then again, I know for some people, that is a night out at the bar.

Lol. How about 3000-5000$ for virtual item? 8)
I came from EVE Online, you know... ;)

Vasduten
03-09-2017, 12:15 PM
Perhaps a price range filter would be useful.

That would indeed be helpful.
So would a sort by minimum level function.

Enoach
03-09-2017, 12:23 PM
**shrugs** I try to keep the price at the stated price of the item. Except for jewelry.. Rings and necklaces. Those I find sell faster when I bump the price a 1000%. Why? Who the frick knows. I can post a ring that is worth say 9200plat. The buyout is at that 9200plat. Watch it sit through three days of not selling on the AH. Bump the price 1000%. Watch it sell in minutes after reposting on the AH. I do not pretend to understand the market forces within the game. Just know that for some items, higher is better. Others 'at cost'. Still, others items will not sell all that well. No matter at what price you put them on the AH. Such as shields or docents.

Jewelry sells well, my opinion is because it is very craftable. Items with Augments also sell well, it would be nice even if there wasn't a filter system if an item off to the left had an indicator of Augment slots - even just a "Has Augment" but it would be nice if it indicated which and how many.

As for selling at a higher price - my hypothesis is because you can sort by price and people assume all augmented items are a higher price. I know that is how I sort them and it seems to work for the most part. It is not always true but it has helped when I was in a hurry to craft an item for a poor soul that was lacking gear.

Vasduten
03-10-2017, 02:45 PM
I've been putting stuff int he AH lately that I know lower level players would like, and setting the buyout a hundred or so above base price. Some items, more, because the AH takes a cut, but most just to move them along and give someone else a chance with it.
If you just sell stuff in the taverns, you don't get nearly as much money for them, and they aren't offered in the stock list once you've sold them to the tavern. They disappear?

Lence
03-10-2017, 03:44 PM
Ha...talk about plat inflation...when the AH was first released in DDO prices were listed in gold still :p lol

YUTANG75
03-10-2017, 03:45 PM
Any gear I get that looks useful to others I out up for 15k buyout. That normally sells and is affordable to most.

If you want to make plat get a load of random gen items with augment slots and deconstruct them, then sell for about 15k. The low level items are best due to some weird absolute minimum levels.

A while ago I looted a con+6 elite prisoners manacles and it just woulndt sell. Someone got it for about 60 play yesterday.

blerkington
03-10-2017, 06:50 PM
At the risk of being labelled an MMO socialist, here's my take on this situation: share the wealth.

The plat AH can be used to make things easier for newer and/or less wealthy players. If you're a vet with a surplus of plat, you might consider posting useful items at low prices as a community service. Even those rare scrolls you would normally vendor or leave in the chest are worth posting, or those named items you get but don't need because you already have them.

Giving away your excess plat in the harbour is another nice thing to do. It may mean nothing to you, but for a new player it's like winning the lottery if they suddenly get 500k; they can buy all the consumables they want and maybe find some better gear on the AH too. It might also make them feel more invested in the game and stick around for longer, which is good for all of us. I had a similar thing happen to me in another MMO, and suddenly being wealthy (or so I thought) definitely made me feel more engaged with the game.

Thanks.

Gremmlynn
03-10-2017, 07:25 PM
get off the horse and lower the buyout prices . you not helping anyone in your own party by pricing this out of affordability.
why not combine all server Auction Houses to one server so posting can be across servers.


100's of thousands of pp .
for a 1st life toon its not unlimited pp nor welcoming to the game.
just a bad experience .

pawn shops are better since they are populated with stuff now.People aren't selling stuff to those who can't afford those prices, they are selling it to those that can.

Making as much as one can from a sale is kind of the point of selling after all.

Annex
03-10-2017, 07:50 PM
At the risk of being labelled an MMO socialist, here's my take on this situation: share the wealth.

The plat AH can be used to make things easier for newer and/or less wealthy players. If you're a vet with a surplus of plat, you might consider posting useful items at low prices as a community service. Even those rare scrolls you would normally vendor or leave in the chest are worth posting, or those named items you get but don't need because you already have them.

This pretty much matches my outlook. I post the better equipment I find just above cost. It helps new players get started and less active players gain some strength. I now avoid posting items below cost because people gobble it up to make Essences.

My generosity has limits. :) Items with augment slots get deconstructed and sold to more affluent players at high prices. Pure junk gets dissolved. If I sell Essences I offer at or just below the going rate.

If I find a player asking questions or in need of advice I try to help. On the rare occasion I actually group with someone, I pass useful equipment in the chest.

That about covers it, I think.

skorpeon
03-11-2017, 02:48 AM
Well I know a lot of items which are selling cheap I buy when I need essences. This need has vastly diminished recently as my crafting level has reached the 300's. I used to buy all lvl 13 up items that were "deconstructible" to grind down. Often I hit my plat limit and buy stuff to grind as I hate not looting chests of plat. I don't need that plat at all, anything of value I sell on the shard exchange (well I try to). Then often end up grinding it down.

I do post some item that I think a low level person might want at fair prices, as I have crafted almost all items I need (Lvl 7, 13, 21, 16 sets).

Note now I am doing reaver low levels I may need to look at crafting lower level stuff also? So low prices item on G'land may get bought out again, sorry. But I am pretty sure I am not the only one that was doing this.

ssgcmwatson
03-11-2017, 09:32 PM
At the risk of being labelled an MMO socialist, here's my take on this situation: share the wealth.



Not to go too political:being generous with giving things that are yours isn't socialism. It's generosity. Socialism is more akin to being generous with things that are someone else's ;)

And I completely agree. I am happy to help out new players with gear/plat when I run across those who could use the boost.

Rykka
03-12-2017, 07:25 AM
On Orien, during primetime, I see most newly listed random loot selling for 50%-100% it's list price, so cheaper than a pawnshop. If it has a powercreep enhancement (Say +8 Str on a ML15 item) it will sell for considerably more, like 100k. Something resembling a cannith crafted item might go for 1M or even more.

My advice to any new player that wants to make money to buy powercreep gear is to look at the price of Essence on the AH. Anyone can decon garbage loot and sell the essence.

SirValentine
03-14-2017, 08:50 AM
the market dictates the pricing. if it is priced too high.. no one buys..


Yes. And if you price it way too low, someone more in tune with the market buys it up and re-posts it for higher. That doesn't "help the new players", it just puts plat in the pocket of people paying attention.

Vasduten
03-19-2017, 10:22 AM
get off the horse and lower the buyout prices . you not helping anyone in your own party by pricing this out of affordability.
why not combine all server Auction Houses to one server so posting can be across servers.


100's of thousands of pp .
for a 1st life toon its not unlimited pp nor welcoming to the game.
just a bad experience .

pawn shops are better since they are populated with stuff now.

IDK, when I post items there, (good ones, named items with enhancement slots, etc,) nobody buys them unless they have a higher buyout price. I tried making them more available by setting the buyout like $20 over the listing price, but nobody bought.
Maybe it's a perceived value thing.

I still list cool stuff for lower, because I remember finding things that I thought would be really neat to try and being blown away at a $500,000 price on a lvl 7 item.

:)

Rykka
03-21-2017, 07:04 AM
IDK, when I post items there, (good ones, named items with enhancement slots, etc,) nobody buys them unless they have a higher buyout price. I tried making them more available by setting the buyout like $20 over the listing price, but nobody bought.
Maybe it's a perceived value thing.

I still list cool stuff for lower, because I remember finding things that I thought would be really neat to try and being blown away at a $500,000 price on a lvl 7 item.

:)

I'm always amazed at what does and does not sell for plat.

I recently got tired of looking at all the old unbound CC shards in my inventory that I could not even decon for essence. I put them on the AH for stupid sums and half of them sold. So I bought items with the plat and deconned them for essence. I guess they're someone else's problem now.

Loholt-UK
03-21-2017, 08:09 AM
Plat is worthless. The Plat economy has been broken for years and years and years and now most people have basically unlimited platinum. That's why prices are so high. The ASAH is the main economy now, and it's better designed. Prices on there aren't high.

I disagree. Since the new crafting system was introduced I and many of the people who I play with dissolve all of the loot that drops (unless it has a green slot, then it gets disjuncted). This means that for many of us, the only plat we get comes from chest drops and not sales of loot. There isn't that much plat in chests. I currently need plat for the first time in 8 years (which is how it always should have been). I disagree that the economy is broken.

As for the ASAH, I have plenty of AS and see nothing to spend them on. This was not the case before the new crafting system was introduced.

It's my opinion that the economy is better now than it has ever been previously.

kmoustakas
03-21-2017, 09:40 AM
get off the horse and lower the buyout prices . you not helping anyone in your own party by pricing this out of affordability.
why not combine all server Auction Houses to one server so posting can be across servers.


100's of thousands of pp .
for a 1st life toon its not unlimited pp nor welcoming to the game.
just a bad experience .

pawn shops are better since they are populated with stuff now.

No

Edstienkin
03-21-2017, 01:48 PM
I'm always amazed at what does and does not sell for plat.

I recently got tired of looking at all the old unbound CC shards in my inventory that I could not even decon for essence. I put them on the AH for stupid sums and half of them sold. So I bought items with the plat and deconned them for essence. I guess they're someone else's problem now.

Appropriate post for a thread titled Auction House Robbery.