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Cocomajobo
02-28-2017, 05:24 PM
(Update 2: Lammania is now open. Release notes can be found here (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/484623-Lamannia-Update-35-Release-Notes). Lammania should be open until sometime Thursday. I will be hosting a Dev event tonight from 8-10 PM EST as well as, possibly, one on Wednesday and/or Thursday at the same time slot.)
(Update: QA is verifying the health of the Lammania build from last night currently. All signs currently point to us opening on schedule today! As per usual with lammania this means that, should no blockers emerge, we should open this afternoon likely around 2:30-3:30 PM EST.)
Hey, all! Our current tentative U35 Lammania preview schedule is as follows:
Cancelled Wednesday 3/1/17-Friday 3/3/17: Super last minute notice early preview
Tuesday 3/7/17-Thursday 3/9/17: Our full U35 Lammania Preview
Both of these preview's will contain all of U35 (features in various states of polish). We are particularly looking for eyes on:
A new Raid!
The new playable race: Dragonborn!
We'll have many more details for you when we are ready to open the server (U35 has a much larger feature list than I listed above). We'd love some first impressions from those who can make it this week but we understand that because of the short notice traffic is likely to be low. Next week, however, everyone should be there. I'm going to be there. It's going to be great. <3
Sam-u-r-eye
02-28-2017, 05:40 PM
new stuff
I always like new stuff
^^
Cya on lamma coco
Pyyro_del_Drago
02-28-2017, 05:47 PM
Just came back after a long time, can anyone point me to the info on how to copy a character over to Lamm? Would love to test this all out.
EDIT: Oh, and thanks Cocomajobo for the update, and can't wait!!
Cocomajobo
02-28-2017, 05:55 PM
Just came back after a long time, can anyone point me to the info on how to copy a character over to Lamm? Would love to test this all out.
EDIT: Oh, and thanks Cocomajobo for the update, and can't wait!!
You copy a character by using the "Transfer" button on the Lammania Launcher itself (once it's open). You'll select the "Copy Character" option at the final screen.
The only caveat being that characters that are actively Guild Leaders will not be shown in the list of transferable characters. The quick and dirty workaround being to temporarily shift guild leadership to another character (preferably another of your own). This only needs to be done as long as it takes the Character Copy process to complete (typically less than 5 minutes).
Fenix93
02-28-2017, 05:59 PM
Yes! it is nice to finally be able to try the Dragonborn! I did not see time for test this update, I am also curious about other new features of U35.
Pyyro_del_Drago
02-28-2017, 06:20 PM
You copy a character by using the "Transfer" button on the Lammania Launcher itself (once it's open). You'll select the "Copy Character" option at the final screen.
The only caveat being that characters that are actively Guild Leaders will not be shown in the list of transferable characters. The quick and dirty workaround being to temporarily shift guild leadership to another character (preferably another of your own). This only needs to be done as long as it takes the Character Copy process to complete (typically less than 5 minutes).
Great! Sounds easy enough, thank you!
Dunklerlindwurm
03-01-2017, 12:43 AM
Nice. I will be there today :)
EllisDee37
03-01-2017, 12:52 AM
Can we buy Dragonborn in the DDO Store on lammania?
Fenix93
03-01-2017, 04:49 AM
Can we buy Dragonborn in the DDO Store on lammania?
Mine and a theory but ...I wonder if the price on the gnome lower it with the implementation of the dragonborn ... this would make it cost you in theory 997 about the gnome and dragonborn think they do cost you 1246 points DDO
Wizza
03-01-2017, 04:52 AM
I heard Torc is behind the design this new raid. If yes, I'm looking forward to try the new "The Pit Raid Edition" later or in the next days.
KomradKillMachine
03-01-2017, 05:37 AM
I heard Torc is behind the design this new raid. If yes, I'm looking forward to try the new "The Pit Raid Edition" later or in the next days.
What we'll get instead will be DoJ2 with its "ingenious" mechanics like NPC babysitting, x5 Failure requirements, Lag blades everywhere, Instant red alert mob spawn, Red named trash mobs, Unbeatable Lag on higher difficulties.
Loromir
03-01-2017, 07:24 AM
What we'll get instead will be DoJ2 with its "ingenious" mechanics like NPC babysitting, x5 Failure requirements, Lag blades everywhere, Instant red alert mob spawn, Red named trash mobs, Unbeatable Lag on higher difficulties.
No need to be cynical. This is a new day for DDO. SSG has the reins now...Turbine is a distant memory.
Wizza
03-01-2017, 08:00 AM
No need to be cynical. This is a new day for DDO. SSG has the reins now...Turbine is a distant memory.
Indeed!
Elfishski
03-01-2017, 08:07 AM
What we'll get instead will be DoJ2 with its "ingenious" mechanics like NPC babysitting, x5 Failure requirements, Lag blades everywhere, Instant red alert mob spawn, Red named trash mobs, Unbeatable Lag on higher difficulties.
The lag in DOJ was really frustrating and a bit of a failure, but the other mechanics made for a decent and very interesting raid. In theory.
Well, and duped bypass timers being used to run it to death within a couple of weeks, and power creep making the items look really dated since then even though it should still be endgame.
Anyway, no need to be hating on the new raid until you've actually seen it (which can be today, if you care to log onto Lammania!)
Steve_Howe
03-01-2017, 08:26 AM
Release notes?
caaliee
03-01-2017, 09:42 AM
Sooooo.... you said 3/1/17.... but never gave a time. What time will lama be up??? It would be nice if we could mess around on it during the "down time".
Steve_Howe
03-01-2017, 11:45 AM
Lamannia client just finished updating about 20 minutes ago. Lamannia still CLOSED, though.
I'll bet it opens fairly soon.
Release notes?
Aelonwy
03-01-2017, 03:01 PM
Still no word?
KookieKobold
03-01-2017, 03:13 PM
Due to some technical difficulties and some last minute internal playday feedback adjustments, the super last minute shortened preview meant to start today is unfortunately canceled.
The Tuesday through Thursday schedule that Coco listed in the OP for next week (3/7 through 3/9) is still right on schedule though!
Sorry for the late notice and we'll see you all next week!
cru121
03-01-2017, 03:16 PM
oh noes! toss us something pls! new loot, dragonborn enhancements, anything
Enoach
03-01-2017, 03:30 PM
Due to some technical difficulties and some last minute internal playday feedback adjustments, the super last minute shortened preview meant to start today is unfortunately canceled.
The Tuesday through Thursday schedule that Coco listed in the OP for next week (3/7 through 3/9) is still right on schedule though!
Sorry for the late notice and we'll see you all next week!
Of course this would happen while I'm in the middle of re-installing the Preview Client to check out the initial preview of Dragonborn.
Aelonwy
03-01-2017, 03:31 PM
oh noes! toss us something pls! new loot, dragonborn enhancements, anything
I'd settle for a single screenshot of a dragonborn. Pretty please with bacon?
Cleanincubus
03-01-2017, 04:04 PM
oh noes! toss us something pls! new loot, dragonborn enhancements, anything
^ This!
DDO's official anniversary was yesterday, and from the preview times, it appears the "Anniversary" Update will launch almost a month late. Using common sense here, there's not going to be enough time to make changes based on community feedback. Allowing us to at least browse through the release notes (at least the Enhancement Tree and what it looks like) now, would at least give us a head start to look over and discuss until we can actually test it out to give definite feedback.
Mr_Helmet
03-01-2017, 04:31 PM
I am also curious about other new features of U35.
Racial past lives, more hamster wheel.
HastyPudding
03-01-2017, 06:43 PM
I'd settle for a single screenshot of a dragonborn. Pretty please with bacon?
^THIS^
Throw us a bone, we wanna know!
KomradKillMachine
03-01-2017, 09:47 PM
No need to be cynical. This is a new day for DDO. SSG has the reins now...Turbine is a distant memory.
Nope, it's not, not even close. Same crew, same thought process, same abandoned pet project after pet project.
Just look at what they did with "aggro downgrade" untested release on patch#2 of U33, the same "aggro downgrade" they try to slip in under the guise of U22 for those who remember.
Seikojin
03-01-2017, 11:03 PM
Hey, all! Our current tentative U35 Lammania preview schedule is as follows:
Cancelled Wednesday 3/1/17-Friday 3/3/17: Super last minute notice early preview
Tuesday 3/7/17-Thursday 3/9/17: Our full U35 Lammania Preview
Both of these preview's will contain all of U35 (features in various states of polish). We are particularly looking for eyes on:
A new Raid!
The new playable race: Dragonborn!
We'll have many more details for you when we are ready to open the server (U35 has a much larger feature list than I listed above). We'd love some first impressions from those who can make it this week but we understand that because of the short notice traffic is likely to be low. Next week, however, everyone should be there. I'm going to be there. It's going to be great. <3
For the full preview, can someone stick around extra late for some in game shenanigans? I am a west coast player, so after a full day of busting software, I want to bust more software, but your team is usually home busting software that isn't ddo. :(
Vanhooger
03-02-2017, 09:39 AM
Can we get any hint on U35 at least please? I don't know anything about U35 and what is coming. Where is going to be the new raid and what level? We only get a raid and dragonborn thing?
Is it possible to get release note?
I didn't see any communication whatsoever lately.
Starla70
03-02-2017, 10:08 AM
I can actually try it this time.
Cordovan
03-02-2017, 10:34 AM
Can we get any hint on U35 at least please? I don't know anything about U35 and what is coming. Where is going to be the new raid and what level? We only get a raid and dragonborn thing?
Is it possible to get release note?
I didn't see any communication whatsoever lately.
The main bullet points for Update 35 are the new Dragonborn race and an adventure pack containing two quests and a raid. There's also a fairly large amount of racial enhancement work, and the debut of racial reincarnation, which players will be able to see soon on Lamannia.
Steve_Howe
03-02-2017, 10:38 AM
Really wish you could give us more info on Dragonborn.
Thalmor
03-02-2017, 11:34 AM
The main bullet points for Update 35 are the new Dragonborn race and an adventure pack containing two quests and a raid. There's also a fairly large amount of racial enhancement work, and the debut of racial reincarnation, which players will be able to see soon on Lamannia.
Racial Reincarnation? We need details?
Fenix93
03-02-2017, 12:10 PM
The main bullet points for Update 35 are the new Dragonborn race and an adventure pack containing two quests and a raid. There's also a fairly large amount of racial enhancement work, and the debut of racial reincarnation, which players will be able to see soon on Lamannia.
Racial reincarnation I think I understand what (I hope), and I'm happy ... hoping that entice people to play a heroic level 1 ... we hope, and the racial improvements that do not understand, you mean the enacement racial or something to do for aesthetic purposes?
Talon_Dragonsbane
03-02-2017, 12:27 PM
The main bullet points for Update 35 are the new Dragonborn race and an adventure pack containing two quests and a raid. There's also a fairly large amount of racial enhancement work, and the debut of racial reincarnation, which players will be able to see soon on Lamannia.
What is racial reincarnation? Does it provide racial past lives? If so, do we get credit for playing past races, or are we sol and have to grind again.
This game is getting too grindy lately.
zehnvhex
03-02-2017, 12:40 PM
Let the absurd speculations begin!
Cordovan
03-02-2017, 12:50 PM
What is racial reincarnation? Does it provide racial past lives? If so, do we get credit for playing past races, or are we sol and have to grind again.
This game is getting too grindy lately.
It's similar to True Reincarnation in some but not all aspects, but races instead of classes. Yes. No (sorry). You'll know a lot more about it when we preview it on Lamannia soon, perhaps as soon as early next week.
Cordovan
03-02-2017, 12:51 PM
Let the absurd speculations begin!
Since True Reincarnation makes your character taller, does Racial Reincarnation make your character wider? :)
Phoenicis
03-02-2017, 12:59 PM
Since True Reincarnation makes your character taller, does Racial Reincarnation make your character wider? :)
*pictures a triple racial reincarnated gnome looking rather wide
I'm just short for my weight?
*laughs and wanders off
DANTEIL
03-02-2017, 01:13 PM
Racial past lives, more hamster wheel.
I just assume we'll be able to racial reincarnate into Nibbles.
Beethoven
03-02-2017, 01:15 PM
It's similar to True Reincarnation in some but not all aspects, but races instead of classes. Yes. No (sorry). You'll know a lot more about it when we preview it on Lamannia soon, perhaps as soon as early next week.
Why would you think many people will like this? The power game who cares mostly about stats likely won't care either way, everyone else is probably going to be less than thrilled. Sorry, but
I am really just trying to understand the thought process that led to this idea.
I can't really talk about anybody else, but on a personal level: grind I can cope with, repeatedly trying to make me play a character I have no one interested in playing is not going to make me want to stick around though. Somehow I doubt I am the only one who feels that way.
Thalmor
03-02-2017, 01:29 PM
Let the absurd speculations begin!
Remembering more from your past life as a Dwarf, you have a higher tolerance for alcohol, it now requires one addition drink to get you drunk.
Cleanincubus
03-02-2017, 01:41 PM
The main bullet points for Update 35 are the new Dragonborn race and an adventure pack containing two quests and a raid. There's also a fairly large amount of racial enhancement work, and the debut of racial reincarnation, which players will be able to see soon on Lamannia.
That just flat out makes me angry. We're constantly told stuff can't be done soon because of a lack of development time. So we get this, instead of what is asked for the most? blah
kanordog
03-02-2017, 01:42 PM
I am really just trying to understand the thought process that led to this idea.
1. People mentioned racial past lives years ago on the forums (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/438908-Race-completionist?highlight=racial+past+life)
2. This will make half-elves great again!
3. People will buy premium races (11K + store points to buy all races excluding Dragonborn)
4. To make sure that race themed characters will be less powerful then the multiraced ones
5. Keep people playing esp. those who are triple completionist in every way
6. We need a new grind with every update: Cannith Crafting, Slave Lords crafting, Night revels, Reaper diff
I would have liked the idea years ago but I already done most of the races on my main I don't really want to replay some of them.
Beethoven
03-02-2017, 02:07 PM
1. People mentioned racial past lives years ago on the forums (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/438908-Race-completionist?highlight=racial+past+life)
2. This will make half-elves great again!
3. People will buy premium races (11K + store points to buy all races excluding Dragonborn)
4. To make sure that race themed characters will be less powerful then the multiraced ones
5. Keep people playing esp. those who are triple completionist in every way
6. We need a new grind with every update: Cannith Crafting, Slave Lords crafting, Night revels, Reaper diff
I would have liked the idea years ago but I already done most of the races on my main I don't really want to replay some of them.
1. I would hope current development decisions are based on current customer feedback, not feedback dated from years ago.
2. No. They will still look punie.
3 and 4 I don't want to play an elf (halfling/dwarf/gnome/whatever). Trying to make me is not going to make me give you more money, it is only going to turn me off. What I was trying to understand about is what led to the idea that the group you describe is larger than the one I did?
5. My opinion about this is, of course, tainted by my perception that I am more likely to walk away than participate in the system (be it by walking away from the game or ignoring the system; either way is not making me play more)
6. I would argue that reincarnating for past life's is not a new concept but pretty much the exact same grind we have been doing for a while now.
Sam-u-r-eye
03-02-2017, 02:33 PM
That just flat out makes me angry. We're constantly told stuff can't be done soon because of a lack of development time. So we get this, instead of what is asked for the most? blah
+1
HuneyMunster
03-02-2017, 02:33 PM
If there is gonna be racial past lives can we get option to save our raid completions?
I see little reason to go beyond level 20 now as everyone will TR at 20 to get a racial life as well as reseting the first time bonuses for reaper.
At least with option to save raid completions I would have some incentive to get to 30 to run the new raid at least once before I TR.
Or did I miss some kind of early April joke or it will require going to level 30 before you can get it?
SerPounce
03-02-2017, 02:39 PM
Kind of puts a lot of the complaints on this forum in perspective when people start their bellyaching before we know anything about the content or systems. You could at least maintain some plausibility by saving "the raid sucks!" and "racial reincarnation is a terrible no fun grind that I'm being FORCED to do!" until after we've at least seen what they look like.
Cantor
03-02-2017, 03:21 PM
Racial pasts lives will be a fun addition for plenty of people. I'm sure it's not for everyone, but as long as 8/10 are not must have what's the harm?
kanordog
03-02-2017, 04:44 PM
2. No. They will still look punie.
Internet DOES need a sarcastic font
well.. uhmmmm... my extremely slowly progressing AA completionist project will be having a crapton of elf lives then i suppose...
lol
Tlorrd
03-02-2017, 04:55 PM
I will hold final judgment until the preview and details are released ... but ... but ... not getting credit for previous race past lives that have been done (especially iconic's which somewhat pigeon hole you into a specific class partly, unless you spend lots of $$ to get out of it) will be annoying. Already I've looked to the dark side of NW and their buff/debuff mechanics are far more interesting than what we have here and while class passes haven't been finished here, it seems they are getting more and more pushed back for new themes that will require a lot of tweaking.
Kebtid
03-02-2017, 05:18 PM
Heh i dont understand how you guys function as a entity.
You bring us racial past lifes, right after you gave us reaper, you totally negate and lower reaper xp to utterly low standards and force another 30 past lifes /Please dont argue its optional, any mmo functions that you strive toward progress and if they add a hamster wheel like racial past lifes its the new endgame aka the focus of playstyle/.
So what i see is that you force r1 zerg tring?
IS that the focus of ddo?
When will you focus on content at level cap?
Anytime soon? In near future?
I know that adding past lifes is the simplest way to keep us entertained, but do you have actual resources and can you promise us that you will add something we can do at cap once we are done with this utterly boring racial tring and reaper xp farming?
Ellihor
03-02-2017, 05:19 PM
Why would you think many people will like this? The power game who cares mostly about stats likely won't care either way, everyone else is probably going to be less than thrilled. Sorry, but
I am really just trying to understand the thought process that led to this idea.
I can't really talk about anybody else, but on a personal level: grind I can cope with, repeatedly trying to make me play a character I have no one interested in playing is not going to make me want to stick around though. Somehow I doubt I am the only one who feels that way.
That just flat out makes me angry. We're constantly told stuff can't be done soon because of a lack of development time. So we get this, instead of what is asked for the most? blah
This. Nobody asked for this, why are you adding this racial reincarnation possibility? Please tell me DEVs, what's your problem with people playing at cap? Why do you have to do everything to keep people out of there?
PS: you want to add racial past lives to the game. Just what we needed! More power creep, more gap between vets and newbies, and hardcores and casual. Because we don't have enough of that right? Seriously, it looks like you as a company don't want new costumers.
mezzorco
03-02-2017, 05:24 PM
What I do not like about racial reincarnation is that veterans will become stronger, while new players won't feel the change because they're still busy with class reincarnation.
So it's more grinding for new players and more power for vets.
Consider to give racial past lives with true reincarnation instead (in addition to heroic pl). This way triple completitionists will gain only racial past lives when reincarnating, as if they were racially reincarnating, while new players get both a heroic past life and a race past life with a single reincarnation.
I understand this could cut on your incomes, but I think this would greatly improve new players sticking to the game.
It's not a good thing for a new player to know that his character can't compete and won't compete for months and months and months: getting more nice things out of your time make you feel like you're catching up.
mr420247
03-02-2017, 06:46 PM
When you say the new players are you talking about the ones getting absolutely destroyed in reaper pugs
because mostly those are or will be the only pugs those new players see ehn is being phased out give it time
I don't see it as a good thing what i really want to know is why are they working on this instead of the fvs pass
Yalinaa
03-02-2017, 07:10 PM
Good. Plenty of races from halflings to half-orcs will be on the servers. Sadly, 90% of them will be warlocks. Ok, I was joking. It should be 99%.
Mr_Helmet
03-02-2017, 08:10 PM
Good. Plenty of races from halflings to half-orcs will be on the servers. Sadly, 90% of them will be warlocks. Ok, I was joking. It should be 99%.
You win the thread.
Targal
03-02-2017, 11:06 PM
It's similar to True Reincarnation in some but not all aspects, but races instead of classes. Yes. No (sorry). You'll know a lot more about it when we preview it on Lamannia soon, perhaps as soon as early next week.
is Racial Reincarnation only available to regular races? It seems like regular race version of Iconic Reincarnation.
Also, will we have racial completionist?
Gljosh
03-02-2017, 11:50 PM
Now we have Heroic/Epic/Iconic/Racial Past Lives.
So will we have stances? Like Epic/Iconic?
More Build points?
More enhancement points? Only for Racial Abilities?
Passive bonuses like the rest of the Past Lives?
Will we be able to take cosmetic features from one race to another? Think of a Half Orc with Half Elf facial features?
Will this be only for non Iconic races?
Vexious
03-03-2017, 07:01 AM
So at the least your gunna give us credit for lives done right? Having X number of lives on not only one but several toons and adding X amount more? I don't enjoy TRs as is. Now I need loads more on multiple toons? At least give us what we already did..
Please make the halfling past life something really useless. Thanks.
MistaMagic
03-03-2017, 08:31 AM
It will be like everything else in that "YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DO IT", but most of us probably will try and tie it in with running Reaper so the grind wont be to bad
scipiojedi
03-03-2017, 09:24 AM
What I do not like about racial reincarnation is that veterans will become stronger, while new players won't feel the change because they're still busy with class r
Consider to give racial past lives with true reincarnation instead (in addition to heroic pl). This way triple completitionists will gain only racial past lives when reincarnating, as if they were racially reincarnating, while new players get both a heroic past life and a race past life with a single reincarnation.
I'm sure this is exactly what they are doing. Iconic past lives are essentially racial past lives - so now they are balancing out the non-iconics with the iconics by giving a past life for them as well. When you play an iconic to level 30 and TR, you get both a race past life and a class past life. That's what this is. Simple.
scipiojedi
03-03-2017, 09:27 AM
It's possible they are giving us all this new hamster wheel to occupy us while they work on the expansion over the next year/or so. That will take significant time and they need to give some people something to do until then. So they added new wheels, then they can just work on the expansion for 2 years and release a ton of content all at once.
Qezuzu
03-03-2017, 10:43 AM
So what i see is that you force r1 zerg tring?
IS that the focus of ddo?
There's absolutely no reason to do r1 zerg. I'm doing an Assassin life right now and I'm having a lot of fun doing primarily r3 and r4, if I had a more static group I'd want to go higher just for the reaper XP and the challenge.
When will you focus on content at level cap?
Well, there's a raid coming out this same update...
But the way I see it is, if you want an "endgame" at level cap DDO is not for you and hasn't been for years and years. There's plenty to do at cap if you really wish, but most of the game is not at cap.
boborocks
03-03-2017, 10:56 AM
I have been playing this game for over ten-years, in fact since Alpha when it was only three levels in the Harbor. I have stuck with it longer than any other MMO I have played and I have touched quite a few. On the forums, I usually enjoy being the fly on the wall. With that, I appreciate the often thankless job that the programmers/developers put into the game keeping it interesting and fresh which is a major struggle when you consider time and budget constraints and an 11-year history. There really is a great group of people that dedicate a good portion of their days to making the most of DDO so that we can logon at the end of ours for a bit of fun.
This thread started out with a lot of positivity and excitement about new features that were coming (i.e. the Dragonborn and Raid) and quickly spiraled into a rant of features that apparently several people dislike (racial TR grind). There will always be aspects to the game that as individual players we really like and those that we don't. Some get fixed and some don't (think Coyle). We need to preserve an open mind and understand that there are a lot of players in this game and features that you dislike may be exactly what others have been asking for over several years. Nobody likes being told that their opinion is wrong, including myself, but we do need to keep an open mind especially on unreleased material and see the good that is being done. Certain features of the game may not be your liking but that doesn't make them bad.
Stay positive and see the good in the world.
No need to be cynical. This is a new day for DDO. SSG has the reins now...Turbine is a distant memory.
So is SSG games going to let us choose evil alignment? Or are they still in sync with Turbine in that distant memory of refusing players an evil alignment?
Funny enough, Dragonborn were not limited but now.............cough cough
Aelonwy
03-03-2017, 12:10 PM
I'm sure this is exactly what they are doing. Iconic past lives are essentially racial past lives - so now they are balancing out the non-iconics with the iconics by giving a past life for them as well. When you play an iconic to level 30 and TR, you get both a race past life and a class past life. That's what this is. Simple.
That makes too much logical sense to be true. :p
Krell
03-03-2017, 12:23 PM
Between racial past lives and the amount of reaper XP you get on the TR train compared to running reaper at cap, that is a lot of new incentive to reincarnate. In my experience filling level 30 groups has been more difficult since reaper came out and I think racial past lives will accelerate the trend. I know all play styles are important. We're told the reason we can't have the buddy XP bonus on all the time is that solo'ers would feel slighted. I recommend looking at incentives for at cap play styles. I'd start with increasing reaper xp for 30+ quests, or something like increasing the daily bonus for high level quests. I'm sure there are lots of ways to get there.
Coyopa
03-03-2017, 01:02 PM
Why would you think many people will like this? The power game who cares mostly about stats likely won't care either way, everyone else is probably going to be less than thrilled. Sorry, but
I am really just trying to understand the thought process that led to this idea.
I can't really talk about anybody else, but on a personal level: grind I can cope with, repeatedly trying to make me play a character I have no one interested in playing is not going to make me want to stick around though. Somehow I doubt I am the only one who feels that way.
You're not the only one. I used to spend about half my weekend playing DDO. With the addition of reaper, I can barely manage to summon enough interest to log in for more than an hour on a Saturday. I've got a 28th level Warlock that I'm working on epic past lives with, who is already 2/3 done with them (3x Primal, 3x Martial, 2x Divine), but since reaper was added I can't get groups. And while I used to be perfectly fine soloing and can still do it some of the time, it's super boring for me now. So, when I can't get groups, I just log out for the most part. In fact, I didn't even know there was an update on Wednesday until I decided to log in yesterday to get my Daily Dice roll and was unpleasantly surprised by having to download an update. I'll probably keep paying my subscription a while, but that won't last forever that's for sure.
Morroiel
03-03-2017, 02:06 PM
Please make the halfling past life something really useless. Thanks.
Would this be acceptable?
Passive: You were an Halfling in a past life. You occasionally find yourself being talked down to like a child. Each time you acquire this feat you gain a stacking -1 penalty to all social based skills. This feat can be stacked up to three times.
Active: You recall more about your past life as a Halfling. You have -2 to your jump, search, and spot skills and can whip up a batch of your kin's signature stew ten times per rest. (Activate this Halfling ability to create a batch of halfling stew, when consumed provides +5 hp / hour, -50 reflex save, and slows movement speed by 80% until rest).
salmag
03-03-2017, 02:23 PM
So is SSG games going to let us choose evil alignment? Or are they still in sync with Turbine in that distant memory of refusing players an evil alignment?
Funny enough, Dragonborn were not limited but now.............cough cough
This is going to lead to Alignment Reincarnation, with Alignment past lives...
I am happy Gnomes are here (finally), I could care less about Dragonborn, or racial past lives.
I only hope that the raid and quests are worth it.
Gratch
03-03-2017, 02:35 PM
Is there a bonus for being a racial completionist*? I hear it unlocks minotaur player race for free - which I hear is also in U35 but noone will know about it until the first racial completionist notices a new character creation option.**
* should there be a trigger warning before the term racial completionist?
** sorry to spill the info early on the Minotaurs. I got my hint from the Framework quest: "Finish what you started with the Minotaurs!"***
*** This is all completely factual with a high quality of truthiness. Those who finish getting past lives on all the races but aren't given the Minotaur race should probably finish their Minotaur past life first before expecting to get the Minotaur race option.
Qhualor
03-03-2017, 02:50 PM
You're not the only one. I used to spend about half my weekend playing DDO. With the addition of reaper, I can barely manage to summon enough interest to log in for more than an hour on a Saturday. I've got a 28th level Warlock that I'm working on epic past lives with, who is already 2/3 done with them (3x Primal, 3x Martial, 2x Divine), but since reaper was added I can't get groups. And while I used to be perfectly fine soloing and can still do it some of the time, it's super boring for me now. So, when I can't get groups, I just log out for the most part. In fact, I didn't even know there was an update on Wednesday until I decided to log in yesterday to get my Daily Dice roll and was unpleasantly surprised by having to download an update. I'll probably keep paying my subscription a while, but that won't last forever that's for sure.
Welcome to the club.
Fenix93
03-03-2017, 03:45 PM
Is there a bonus for being a racial completionist*? I hear it unlocks minotaur player race for free - which I hear is also in U35 but noone will know about it until the first racial completionist notices a new character creation option.**
* should there be a trigger warning before the term racial completionist?
** sorry to spill the info early on the Minotaurs. I got my hint from the Framework quest: "Finish what you started with the Minotaurs!"***
*** This is all completely factual with a high quality of truthiness. Those who finish getting past lives on all the races but aren't given the Minotaur race should probably finish their Minotaur past life first before expecting to get the Minotaur race option.
excuse and this thing where you read it? the source and reliably or are you just trolling?
BeccaBop
03-03-2017, 07:17 PM
The main bullet points for Update 35 are the new Dragonborn race and an adventure pack containing two quests and a raid. There's also a fairly large amount of racial enhancement work, and the debut of racial reincarnation, which players will be able to see soon on Lamannia.
I have a character that I have played for a while. It has every possible past life (heroic, epic, & iconic, all x3). I think this is called a "triple triple."
Clearly, when I did the Iconic lives, I did them as *that race*. I will be very sad if I can't count those lives toward the "Racial Past Lives" thing.
In part, because I have definitely put in that time already. Me and another "triple triple" player (who just recently accomplished this task) exchanged weary glances at the news, and her reaction was "I'm done." I think you can see why she might feel this way---after working so hard to finally get all the past lives, she feels like she has to start over.
All I am asking for is, "Could you please at least let those of us who have triple triple (or triple iconic) get the credit for those races? Or otherwise make some 'nod' toward us?" I'm trying to prevent player burnout here.
Zeleron
03-03-2017, 07:23 PM
I have a character that I have played for a while. It has every possible past life (heroic, epic, & iconic, all x3). I think this is called a "triple triple."
Clearly, when I did the Iconic lives, I did them as *that race*. I will be very sad if I can't count those lives toward the "Racial Past Lives" thing.
In part, because I have definitely put in that time already. Me and another "triple triple" player (who just recently accomplished this task) exchanged weary glances at the news, and her reaction was "I'm done." I think you can see why she might feel this way---after working so hard to finally get all the past lives, she feels like she has to start over.
All I am asking for is, "Could you please at least let those of us who have triple triple (or triple iconic) get the credit for those races? Or otherwise make some 'nod' toward us?" I'm trying to prevent player burnout here.
I would say the iconic past lives count as a "racial past life" seeing as they are specific for that race only. I'm assuming the racial past lives are going to be essentially the same thing iconics get just for non iconic race's.
Atremus
03-03-2017, 08:33 PM
So how much TP will the Racial Heart of wood cost us? You know the one that won't be bought with Tokens of the Twelve, CoV or Heart Seeds... In game cost will be: 4,000 astral shares from a new vendor in another half finished zone. Or does it cost 10k Mysterious Remnents?
scipiojedi
03-03-2017, 09:01 PM
All I am asking for is, "Could you please at least let those of us who have triple triple (or triple iconic) get the credit for those races? Or otherwise make some 'nod' toward us?" I'm trying to prevent player burnout here.
I think they would if they could - but I don't think they coded the original system to keep track of what race you were, except for iconics. So at this point they either have to take people at their word, and just grant them several racial past lives, or make them start from scratch. Judging by the amount of duping that went on, they can't just take people at their word, or several people would get things they didn't actually work for. So to be fair to everyone, you're gonna have to rerun the lives. Thing is - I get that you did 48 lives or whatever the math works out to and you're burned out - I'm pretty burned out but I'm just an altoholic and keep rolling new ones instead of playing the same one over and over. But for everyone that has done 30+ lives already, you will still get racial completionist before those of us who are still working on completionist, since you have all the past lives and epic past lives already, so you're heroic lives are gonna be faster than mine. So yes it sucks because you already did the work, but the work you will do now will be easier than those of us who haven't done the work yet.
Sam-u-r-eye
03-03-2017, 09:51 PM
I think they would if they could - but I don't think they coded the original system to keep track of what race you were, except for iconics.
Ya well I kept track.
And lets be honest. They are going to monetize this. I will never, ever get credit for the 6th ranger life I did as a human, even though I've TR'd as a class I already had three of about 10 times.
They will create a reasonable grind with a reasonable shortcut to the grind to grab some bucks.
This is because druidic hearts are not being purchased probably.
BLERGGGGGG
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Sam-u-r-eye
03-03-2017, 09:56 PM
The amount DDO charges for character customization is given free to people in Skyforge. Why not us too?
Wizza
03-04-2017, 12:52 AM
Guys I don't want to bust your hopes but there is exactly a 0,00000000001% chance (similar to the Tome drop rates on live) that these past lives will be retroactive.
People have been on a hamster wheel repeating Heroic for as long as 10 years. Make this retroactive, and 90% of ddo population will be a Racial Completionist the day it comes out.
It won't happen, sorry.
EllisDee37
03-04-2017, 01:45 AM
All I am asking for is, "Could you please at least let those of us who have triple triple (or triple iconic) get the credit for those races? Or otherwise make some 'nod' toward us?" I'm trying to prevent player burnout here.I think the idea behind racial past lives is to give people like you added value when you inevitably TR to farm reaper xp.
Now, instead of ONLY getting reaper xp, you'll be getting both reaper xp and racial past lives.
It also helps new players catch up a bit if they can triple dip each life: reaper xp, class past life, racial past life.
Ellihor
03-04-2017, 07:42 AM
I think the idea behind racial past lives is to give people like you added value when you inevitably TR to farm reaper xp.
Now, instead of ONLY getting reaper xp, you'll be getting both reaper xp and racial past lives.
It also helps new players catch up a bit if they can triple dip each life: reaper xp, class past life, racial past life.
Silly. Instead of fixing the problem (have to TR to get reaper xp, funny how people say that so naturally now as if it wasn't a problem), they create another, that making the problem even worse.
Guys I don't want to bust your hopes but there is exactly a 0,00000000001% chance (similar to the Tome drop rates on live) that these past lives will be retroactive.
People have been on a hamster wheel repeating Heroic for as long as 10 years. Make this retroactive, and 90% of ddo population will be a Racial Completionist the day it comes out.
It won't happen, sorry.
they could always compromise... give us, say, our last 3 lives... not all... but a few. that could be cool
thing is, no solution will make everyone happy.
WiseFreelancer
03-04-2017, 02:34 PM
Guys I don't want to bust your hopes but there is exactly a 0,00000000001% chance (similar to the Tome drop rates on live) that these past lives will be retroactive.
People have been on a hamster wheel repeating Heroic for as long as 10 years. Make this retroactive, and 90% of ddo population will be a Racial Completionist the day it comes out.
It won't happen, sorry.
I agree, but not (just) for that reason. They wont be retroactive because they literally can't be. The game almost certainly doesn't know what race you were in any previous lives. It only knows what class you were because of the past life feats granted at the point of reincarnation.
adrian69
03-04-2017, 06:05 PM
Certainly hope that silly rumor I am hearing about only being able to have one active epic PL and one racial to future nerf veteran players to newbs that seasoned newbs have said all day long is just a silly rumor because I am I just ran about 90+ lives on just this account since 2012, and I am wondering what I spent all that money and time doing now and where my awesome endgame toon disappeared in my mind.
I mean I am excited about racial PLs if it keeps me unsocial during my playing, otherwise.
Vexious
03-04-2017, 08:24 PM
Certainly hope that silly rumor I am hearing about only being able to have one active epic PL and one racial to future nerf veteran players to newbs that seasoned newbs have said all day long is just a silly rumor because I am I just ran about 90+ lives on just this account since 2012, and I am wondering what I spent all that money and time doing now and where my awesome endgame toon disappeared in my mind.
I mean I am excited about racial PLs if it keeps me unsocial during my playing, otherwise.
Stop catering to noobs in general. Some of us have spent years playing and obtaining the past lives. Not having those kinda goes with the whole.. new player thing.
rsking
03-04-2017, 09:04 PM
You're not the only one. I used to spend about half my weekend playing DDO. With the addition of reaper, I can barely manage to summon enough interest to log in for more than an hour on a Saturday. I've got a 28th level Warlock that I'm working on epic past lives with, who is already 2/3 done with them (3x Primal, 3x Martial, 2x Divine), but since reaper was added I can't get groups. And while I used to be perfectly fine soloing and can still do it some of the time, it's super boring for me now. So, when I can't get groups, I just log out for the most part. In fact, I didn't even know there was an update on Wednesday until I decided to log in yesterday to get my Daily Dice roll and was unpleasantly surprised by having to download an update. I'll probably keep paying my subscription a while, but that won't last forever that's for sure.
no one said you had to run reaper. all it does it add a few enhancments and a few cometic's to your character other than a reaper bonus to items its just harder than a normal quest.
I told this to a buddy of mine who was thinking of coming back "look Get your head out of your butt at look at the big picture there are players that want something harder and the devs gave it. either you deal with the fact that there are players that are far better than you or you don't play its that simple they will want harder content and more of it you don't have to do it but thats how it is, you can just do elite and get it over with or do R1 and get groups or solo depending on the quest just like its always been but either way the game is changeing and weather or not you like it it will continue to change and evolve to both challenge new and elite players"
either way dude the fact of the matter is if you want do past lives or reaper xp grind do it at low epics if you want to do that stuff cause 18-20 quests aren't epic level content unless it says otherwise until that point your ED will mop the floor with anything in that quest range.
Milikki
03-04-2017, 10:06 PM
Racial reincarnation? So now we have another goal - first it was completionist, then epic completionist, now racist. Soon we can be triple-racists!
Wizza
03-05-2017, 03:08 AM
Thanks Severlin and guys for showing us the Release Notes even without Lamannia being up! Love the communication, keep up the good work. /sarcasm
Let's make sure this has the least amount possible of feedback. Sticking to the schedule, we only have 2 days of Lamannia and then in two weeks the update. So, basically, absolutely no changes will be made no matter what we say.
My bet is on Racial Hearts being as grindy as they wanted Epic/Heroic hearts to be.
Vanhooger
03-05-2017, 04:05 AM
Thanks Severlin and guys for showing us the Release Notes even without Lamannia being up! Love the communication, keep up the good work. /sarcasm
Let's make sure this has the least amount possible of feedback. Sticking to the schedule, we only have 2 days of Lamannia and then in two weeks the update. So, basically, absolutely no changes will be made no matter what we say.
My bet is on Racial Hearts being as grindy as they wanted Epic/Heroic hearts to be.
Yes, lately they just do stuff and push it to live. They don't even ask anymore what we would like to see or what we are going to have, as well feedback in the forum is largely ignored. Look at last reaper iteration...level lockout and xp whitout saying a word.
Kebtid
03-05-2017, 04:29 AM
There's absolutely no reason to do r1 zerg. I'm doing an Assassin life right now and I'm having a lot of fun doing primarily r3 and r4, if I had a more static group I'd want to go higher just for the reaper XP and the challenge.
Well, there's a raid coming out this same update...
But the way I see it is, if you want an "endgame" at level cap DDO is not for you and hasn't been for years and years. There's plenty to do at cap if you really wish, but most of the game is not at cap.
I play reaper on a high skull setting duo with my guildie or trio when 2nd one logs.
I do understand the fun behind reaper 5-10 heroic content, and the struggle and effort you need to put in to complete.
Why we dont have fun is that when we check out our reaper xp, its at around 25ish k while people that zerg r1 with warlocks alrdy unlocked first tier vendor that costs 625 000 reaper xp.
Reaper as it is is a 1 trick pony, you have fun the first time you run a quest on highest skull possible and after that 1 fun life you are back to braindead zerg because efficiency matters.
The difficulty does not offer any kind of reward system towards people that put effort into high tier skulls.
It rewards pure braindead zerging.
I dont like that as i feel inefficient as a player, aka i feel like im wasting my time as ddo is not about completing hardest setting but about completing fastest.
What i dislike is simple, they said that it would take 8 hours of dev working hours to update named gear in this game, that could revitilze everything, all raids all content, yet they dont do it because selling races is more important.
What they are doing with this update is not a matter of effective inovative game changing systems, its just a way to force people to buy useless classes like horc, gnome, warforged and helf /drow is kinda free.
That is what makes me sad.
I wouldn't complain if i started playing ddo after motu, sadly i played before when ddo had a established endgame scene.
I want those times back and not to be forced to play thro tring.
Tring was optional back then, now its mandatory, now its the most efficient way to play this game.
Iconic, heroic, race, epic past lifes..
Whats next?
Guild tring? Reaper tring?
Sigh
I play reaper on a high skull setting duo with my guildie or trio when 2nd one logs.
I do understand the fun behind reaper 5-10 heroic content, and the struggle and effort you need to put in to complete.
Why we dont have fun is that when we check out our reaper xp, its at around 25ish k while people that zerg r1 with warlocks alrdy unlocked first tier vendor that costs 625 000 reaper xp.
This is IMO the biggest problem and it defeated the purpose of the reaper. But the silence is quite telling.
Wizza
03-05-2017, 05:26 AM
Yes, lately they just do stuff and push it to live. They don't even ask anymore what we would like to see or what we are going to have, as well feedback in the forum is largely ignored. Look at last reaper iteration...level lockout and xp whitout saying a word.
As Rys said, the silence is quite telling. I really doubt, at this point, that Severlin (or any other Developer really. How many are there left? We only talk with Cordo, and for as much as he tries and I appreciate that, he doesn't know all the details, ideas, plans behind something) will ever do a 360 turn and start actually replying to us more and more.
What we get is exactly that: they push stuff to live, forget about it and on to the next system. We have seen it with pretty much everything that was developed so far. Sagas, Loot drop rates, Tomes, Shroud (I still laugh at their silence on LGS clickies costing 40 larges for a 6s ability), TS and HoX, and now Reaper. It was pushed Live, and byebye.
The difficulty does not offer any kind of reward system towards people that put effort into high tier skulls.
It rewards pure braindead zerging.
Exactly. You do 8-9-10 skulls? You are rewarded with barely even higher RXP than R1. Too bad you complete 20x times slower, and the Mythic/Reaper drop rates aren't even increased that much for the effort it takes.
I suggested HERE (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/483885-What-would-U36-be-if-you-had-complete-control?p=5944243&viewfull=1#post5944243) what changes would make higher skulls much more fun to run, but "this silence is quite telling".
We all know this Racial Reincarnation is yet another hamster wheel that we can barely even discuss on, another grindy wheel for the TR fanatics that already have had Reaper in the previous update.
Kebtid
03-05-2017, 09:42 AM
I suggested HERE (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/483885-What-would-U36-be-if-you-had-complete-control?p=5944243&viewfull=1#post5944243) what changes would make higher skulls much more fun to run, but "this silence is quite telling".
We all know this Racial Reincarnation is yet another hamster wheel that we can barely even discuss on, another grindy wheel for the TR fanatics that already have had Reaper in the previous update.
I Love those suggestions, not do they make perfect sense but they would fix so many things that are broken right now.
Devs can you look at that post and reply if its possible to implement those changes???
Mr_Helmet
03-05-2017, 09:45 AM
Whats next?
Guild tring? Reaper tring?
Sigh
Don't give them any more ideas.
corvus75
03-05-2017, 09:49 AM
Whats next?
Guild tring? Reaper tring?
Mythic levels? 30-35
Mythic TR, Mythic past life feats?
Mythic enhancement tree(s)?
Mythic destinies?
etc.etc.etc............
IntrepidBear
03-05-2017, 02:28 PM
thankyou Coco for the heads up, am looking forward to Lammaland being up, to peek at the new Dragonborn .. and eagerly awaiting upcoming new stuffs :)
Wizza
03-06-2017, 04:44 AM
I Love those suggestions, not do they make perfect sense but they would fix so many things that are broken right now.
Devs can you look at that post and reply if its possible to implement those changes???
Won't happen. We can't even get a reply, let alone look at suggestions made by forumities.
TheWalruss
03-06-2017, 05:51 AM
I hope Dragonborns can get a wee mustache so you can make them look just slightly like walruses.
Palna
03-06-2017, 07:16 AM
This is for LOTRO, but I guess they're working like this with DDO as well. Bullroarer is the Lammania equivalent afaik (?), and regular forumites are really only able to influence balance, bug and polish.
https://www.lotro.com/sites/default/files/LOTRO%20Update%20Cycle3.jpg
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?616044-The-Development-Cycle-(an-illustration)&p=7583999&highlight=#post7583999
Steve_Howe
03-06-2017, 11:10 AM
So, is Lamannia gonna come up tomorrow or not?
If so, when will we get the Release Notes?
Thanks.
nayozz
03-06-2017, 01:01 PM
i am dieing to read the release notes... even if i suspect we will not find the racial past life bonuses written down, at least at the beginning...
but even reading about dragonborn is something...
i am usually interested in enchantment trees, and new player spells or feats mostly... (i consider classes and races as enchantment trees)
Vanhooger
03-06-2017, 02:01 PM
Can we get some info about u35 please?
Sam-u-r-eye
03-06-2017, 11:19 PM
Ya it stresses out my DDO-brain that additions to xp/grind and powercreep are done without community support.
Ask us what we would pay for!
Literally!
Then give us that.
Kebtid
03-07-2017, 05:17 AM
Any info today?
Would this be acceptable?
Passive: You were an Halfling in a past life. You occasionally find yourself being talked down to like a child. Each time you acquire this feat you gain a stacking -1 penalty to all social based skills. This feat can be stacked up to three times.
Active: You recall more about your past life as a Halfling. You have -2 to your jump, search, and spot skills and can whip up a batch of your kin's signature stew ten times per rest. (Activate this Halfling ability to create a batch of halfling stew, when consumed provides +5 hp / hour, -50 reflex save, and slows movement speed by 80% until rest).
Hm, seems acceptable, although I'd prefer something more sticking to the main halfling theme...
Active: You recall more about your past life as a Halfling. You can dip yourself in thousand-island dressing three times per rest. (Activating this Halfling ability instantly kills you if you get in 5 meters range of a troll. Dying this way increases the loot bonus of unopened chests by 1.)
...might be to useful though.
Sam-u-r-eye
03-07-2017, 08:08 AM
WHERE IS LAMMANIA?
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/001/798/ragequit2.jpg
Goin for a walk with the dog.
https://m.popkey.co/c7a9df/JJe39.gif
Vanhooger
03-07-2017, 08:40 AM
WHERE IS LAMMANIA?
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/001/798/ragequit2.jpg
Goin for a walk with the dog.
https://m.popkey.co/c7a9df/JJe39.gif
I don't expect anything before 1am or maybe they cancel it, who knows.
Astarii
03-07-2017, 08:46 AM
Looking forward to seeing things up today, very excited
Phoenicis
03-07-2017, 08:47 AM
Ya it stresses out my DDO-brain that additions to xp/grind and powercreep are done without community support.
Ask us what we would pay for!
Literally!
Then give us that.
More power to complete end content faster, and end content that can't be completed faster via power creep.
Simple.
*chuckles and wanders off
GrayRoachSandson
03-07-2017, 09:12 AM
hope not canceled again :mad:
ivellious_lavinthal
03-07-2017, 09:55 AM
Any update on what time the server opens?
Wizza
03-07-2017, 09:57 AM
Any update on what time the server opens?
Pure speculation:
Considering their previous Lamannia schedules, I wouldn't expect it sooner than 3h+ from now.
Cocomajobo
03-07-2017, 10:04 AM
Update: QA is verifying the health of the Lammania build from last night currently. All signs currently point to us opening on schedule today! As per usual with lammania this means that, should no blockers emerge, we should open this afternoon likely around 2:30-3:30 PM EST.
Kebtid
03-07-2017, 10:06 AM
Update: QA is verifying the health of the Lammania build from last night currently. All signs currently point to us opening on schedule today! As per usual with lammania this means that, should no blockers emerge, we should open this afternoon likely around 2:30-3:30 PM EST.
Or for us europeans 20:30, 21:30.
Ty.
Can we get release notes before that?
Steve_Howe
03-07-2017, 10:29 AM
Yes, Release Notes please!!!
Since True Reincarnation makes your character taller, does Racial Reincarnation make your character wider? :)
WHOOO FAT Dwarves! sign me up.
scipiojedi
03-07-2017, 11:28 AM
Obese elves
GrayRoachSandson
03-07-2017, 12:53 PM
updating now:)
SirShen
03-07-2017, 12:55 PM
Its updating so that's a good thing but wow its big download.
Vanhooger
03-07-2017, 12:58 PM
updating now:)
only the launcher so far
Steve_Howe
03-07-2017, 01:03 PM
Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!
Paladin or Sorc??
Battle Bard could also be a choice, I suppose.
Hmmm...a really intimidating Barb or Fighter could also work.
HastyPudding
03-07-2017, 01:29 PM
Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!
Paladin or Sorc??
Battle Bard could also be a choice, I suppose.
Hmmm...a really intimidating Barb or Fighter could also work.
They would probably make a good fighter vanguard, due to them most likely having a bonus to intimidate (I would be very surprised if they didn't) and probably some sort of 'dragon scales' enhancement (bonus to ac, prr, or something of the sort). Plus, the idea of a humanoid dragon in heavy, spiked armor with a shield and a big sword or axe sounds awesome.
I could see them being a warchanter bard and a sorcerer, too. And, I'm sure people have already thought "Hmmm +2 con and +2 cha, it's warlock time!" from the moment it was slated to be in-game.
irnimnode
03-07-2017, 01:36 PM
Got the update went to log in launcher said closed brought launcher back up got update error occured so now what?
Vanhooger
03-07-2017, 01:37 PM
Got the update went to log in launcher said closed brought launcher back up got update error occured so now what?
you have to wait, server isn't up yet.
Steve_Howe
03-07-2017, 01:38 PM
Got the update went to log in launcher said closed brought launcher back up got update error occured so now what?
We wait till they actually Open Lamannia.
Steve_Howe
03-07-2017, 01:39 PM
They would probably make a good fighter vanguard, due to them most likely having a bonus to intimidate (I would be very surprised if they didn't) and probably some sort of 'dragon scales' enhancement (bonus to ac, prr, or something of the sort). Plus, the idea of a humanoid dragon in heavy, spiked armor with a shield and a big sword or axe sounds awesome.
I could see them being a warchanter bard and a sorcerer, too. And, I'm sure people have already thought "Hmmm +2 con and +2 cha, it's warlock time!" from the moment it was slated to be in-game.
I predicted +2 STR, -2 DEX, and +2 CHA in another thread. Those stats are most consistent with the v4.0 & v5.0 Dragonborn.
GrayRoachSandson
03-07-2017, 01:44 PM
Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!
Paladin or Sorc??
Battle Bard could also be a choice, I suppose.
Hmmm...a really intimidating Barb or Fighter could also work.
U should try one of those Battle Chatterboxes who talk their enemies (and teammates) to death.
Or those Wheeling Hamsters who keep running in circles and feeling alright.
Serious face.
HastyPudding
03-07-2017, 01:45 PM
I predicted +2 STR, -2 DEX, and +2 CHA in another thread. Those stats are most consistent with the v4.0 & v5.0 Dragonborn.
I had rather hoped they would go +2 cha and -2 dex and give a feat choice at character creation allowing for +2 str or +2 con. Still, no other class has +2 to two stats, except Drow, which has an ability score penalty. Should dragonborn have such a penalty?
Bolo_Grubb
03-07-2017, 01:50 PM
Release the release notes and stop the speculation!
Steve_Howe
03-07-2017, 01:52 PM
Should dragonborn have such a penalty?
Not if it's a Premium race. I suspect it is.
SirShen
03-07-2017, 02:22 PM
I had rather hoped they would go +2 cha and -2 dex and give a feat choice at character creation allowing for +2 str or +2 con. Still, no other class has +2 to two stats, except Drow, which has an ability score penalty. Should dragonborn have such a penalty?
Its +2 str +2 Cha and -2 dex.
Malex
03-07-2017, 02:29 PM
Updating lamannia.. come on, i want to see them!!
I'll make a video for those who cant use lamannia
Cocomajobo
03-07-2017, 02:30 PM
Update 2: Lammania is now open. Release notes can be found here (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/484623-Lamannia-Update-35-Release-Notes). Lammania should be open until sometime Thursday. I will be hosting a Dev event tonight from 8-10 PM EST as well as, possibly, one on Wednesday and/or Thursday at the same time slot.
GrayRoachSandson
03-07-2017, 02:30 PM
it's up
Kerthyn
03-07-2017, 02:34 PM
Cannot continue because en/DDO EULA - Turbine.html cannot be located.
Seljuck
03-07-2017, 02:35 PM
Can't log in :( Pop up says:
Cannot continue because en/DDO EULA - Turbine.html cannot be located.
It's fresh client, instaled 2 days ago.Anyone have sollution ?
HastyPudding
03-07-2017, 02:38 PM
Not able to login, at the moment (don't have much time, right now). What are the official dragonborn stats/appearance?
Kerthyn
03-07-2017, 02:39 PM
Can't log in :( Pop up says:
Cannot continue because en/DDO EULA - Turbine.html cannot be located.
It's fresh client, instaled 2 days ago.Anyone have sollution ?
Had the same issue i copied the file from my other ddo folder over to the preview.
Seljuck
03-07-2017, 02:39 PM
I assume racial reincarnation is level 1-20?
Can't log in :( Pop up says:
Cannot continue because en/DDO EULA - Turbine.html cannot be located.
It's fresh client, instaled 2 days ago.Anyone have sollution ?
Problem solved, just copy eula doc and html from live game client , to location where lamannia client is installed ;]
Seljuck
03-07-2017, 02:40 PM
Hehe looks like we found solutions in same time :)
ivellious_lavinthal
03-07-2017, 02:46 PM
Problem solved, just copy eula doc and html from live game client , to location where lamannia client is installed ;]
This did not work for me
Xiongrey
03-07-2017, 02:50 PM
"Unable to decrypt and deserialize the data downloaded from the server." Continually fails at 77% of update displaying the error message. This is on a Lamannia install that has worked flawless for me for years. My internet is slow so I would hate to have to wait 12-24 hours to redownload the client for fresh install. Can anyone help?
AMADHA
03-12-2017, 02:38 PM
Cancelled Wednesday 3/1/17-Friday 3/3/17: Super last minute notice early preview
Tuesday 3/7/17-Thursday 3/9/17: Our full U35 Lammania Preview
Both of these preview's will contain all of U35 (features in various states of polish). We are particularly looking for eyes on:
Is there going to be another preview or was that it? When I saw 'schedule' I expected a few more than two windows and more than, what, six days... none of which are on a weekend and with one 3 day period that seems to have been cancelled? So three days?
AMADHA
03-13-2017, 09:43 PM
"Unable to decrypt and deserialize the data downloaded from the server." Continually fails at 77% of update displaying the error message. This is on a Lamannia install that has worked flawless for me for years. My internet is slow so I would hate to have to wait 12-24 hours to redownload the client for fresh install. Can anyone help?
Great, has not been fixed? I had the same problem with U34.
Gratch
03-14-2017, 12:40 PM
Is there going to be another preview or was that it? When I saw 'schedule' I expected a few more than two windows and more than, what, six days... none of which are on a weekend and with one 3 day period that seems to have been cancelled? So three days?
Yeah, kind of quiet on the Lama front. Like they're done now and finishing bug fixes and a build for live? During the on-world devchat they said U35 should definitely be out in March (excluding crazy bad bugs found). Guess that's 2.5 weeks of time left. Sounded like the raid needed some design/feature polish and Dragonborn needed animation fixes. Don't know if they'll consider those worth another preview or just drop U35 on live, and then fix things in hotfixes/updates as is usually done.
Steve_Howe
03-14-2017, 12:53 PM
Was expecting an announcement as to when U35 was going live on the main servers by now. We are 2 weeks past the Anniversary, after all. :rolleyes:
Cordovan
03-14-2017, 12:58 PM
Yes, we are likely done with Lamannia for U35 at this point. We're working to get U35 out as soon as we can; perhaps later this week.
deconedi
03-14-2017, 01:44 PM
Yes, we are likely done with Lamannia for U35 at this point. We're working to get U35 out as soon as we can; perhaps later this week.
I would like to know if SSG has accepted the suggestion of most of the players about the racial reincarnation: Class PL + Racial PL.
Blastyswa
03-14-2017, 02:13 PM
I would like to know if SSG has accepted the suggestion of most of the players about the racial reincarnation: Class PL + Racial PL.
As of right now, my poll was showing 57 votes for combining the 2 (59.38% of votes) and 36 votes for having it be separate (37.50% of votes), with 3 votes (3.13% of votes) with no opinion. Of course, the poll only includes people who frequent the forums, and furthermore only ones who frequented the Lammania forums, but while that means I wouldn't personally want to make statements like "The people are with me! Rise against the oppression of non-combined past lives!" I do still think they should be combined, if only because it makes so much more sense than a dwarven barbarian who TRs into a wizard going "Wow, I vaguely remember being short, but I have no memory of doing a leroy blitzkrieg everytime I see an elf".
deconedi
03-14-2017, 02:56 PM
As of right now, my poll was showing 57 votes for combining the 2 (59.38% of votes) and 36 votes for having it be separate (37.50% of votes), with 3 votes (3.13% of votes) with no opinion. Of course, the poll only includes people who frequent the forums, and furthermore only ones who frequented the Lammania forums, but while that means I wouldn't personally want to make statements like "The people are with me! Rise against the oppression of non-combined past lives!" I do still think they should be combined, if only because it makes so much more sense than a dwarven barbarian who TRs into a wizard going "Wow, I vaguely remember being short, but I have no memory of doing a leroy blitzkrieg everytime I see an elf".
Yes, I expressed myself badly, I was referring to your post. For me it would also be obvious they should be combined. The main thing is the SSG does not make any kind of comment and launch an update with only one test.
Whitering
03-14-2017, 05:53 PM
Yes, I expressed myself badly, I was referring to your post. For me it would also be obvious they should be combined. The main thing is the SSG does not make any kind of comment and launch an update with only one test.
Well, the people objecting are probably the people that are triple completionist and want everyone else to suffer the same as they do. Myself, I have 1 cleric, 3 druid that I largely stoned through because I hated it, and 1 barb, so out of self interest and sanity I would vote for the combined. The real key is whether for a fresh character who racial tres, will they get the +attribute points and require the more exp per life thing that class tres get?
If so, fine, if not, I will delete my character and leave the game, because I will not racial tr at 3x exp requirement while a fresh character can just run through the game at 1x exp and racially tr the whole time.
CeltEireson
03-14-2017, 06:11 PM
Well, the people objecting are probably the people that are triple completionist and want everyone else to suffer the same as they do. Myself, I have 1 cleric, 3 druid that I largely stoned through because I hated it, and 1 barb, so out of self interest and sanity I would vote for the combined. The real key is whether for a fresh character who racial tres, will they get the +attribute points and require the more exp per life thing that class tres get?
If so, fine, if not, I will delete my character and leave the game, because I will not racial tr at 3x exp requirement while a fresh character can just run through the game at 1x exp and racially tr the whole time.
Yeah, whilst I think they introduced this as another hamster wheel for us to run through so unlikely to combine the two I sure as hell don't want to have to do them at 3 x normal exp, particularly as you say if new characters can breeze through them a hell of a lot faster. Like many old timers here I've a lot of characters, many of them with existing heroic past lives.
And yes, you don't have to go through it, but it would be fair for everyone old and new to have to go through the same exp to get the same benefit.
Cantor
03-15-2017, 09:23 AM
Well, the people objecting are probably the people that are triple completionist and want everyone else to suffer the same as they do. Myself, I have 1 cleric, 3 druid that I largely stoned through because I hated it, and 1 barb, so out of self interest and sanity I would vote for the combined. The real key is whether for a fresh character who racial tres, will they get the +attribute points and require the more exp per life thing that class tres get?
If so, fine, if not, I will delete my character and leave the game, because I will not racial tr at 3x exp requirement while a fresh character can just run through the game at 1x exp and racially tr the whole time.
Oh yeh, those evil vets. I think they should be awarded together and have triple completionist. It's the anti-creep people who are vocally opposed. I think it's not changing at this point though, it's just a different heroic TR using race instead of class.
Vanhooger
03-15-2017, 10:08 AM
As of right now, my poll was showing 57 votes for combining the 2 (59.38% of votes) and 36 votes for having it be separate (37.50% of votes), with 3 votes (3.13% of votes) with no opinion. Of course, the poll only includes people who frequent the forums, and furthermore only ones who frequented the Lammania forums, but while that means I wouldn't personally want to make statements like "The people are with me! Rise against the oppression of non-combined past lives!" I do still think they should be combined, if only because it makes so much more sense than a dwarven barbarian who TRs into a wizard going "Wow, I vaguely remember being short, but I have no memory of doing a leroy blitzkrieg everytime I see an elf".
Community opinion doesn't count anymore.
Steve_Howe
03-15-2017, 03:05 PM
Yes, we are likely done with Lamannia for U35 at this point. We're working to get U35 out as soon as we can; perhaps later this week.
So...later this week...that's like tomorrow or the day after...any further, possibly definitive word on when U35 will be released?
Steve_Howe
03-15-2017, 05:47 PM
So...later this week...that's like tomorrow or the day after...any further, possibly definitive word on when U35 will be released?
It's tomorrow!
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/484924-Downtime-Notice-Thursday-March-16th-9-00-AM-1-00-PM-Eastern-(-4-GMT)#post5952414
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