Warforged Healing

[Bacab]

OK, I have a simple question...

Other than say Reconstruct from having 11 Wizard levels or 12 Sorcerer levels or 15(?) Artificer levels...

How do most Warforged self-heal in Epics?

I suppose they could be Clerics or Favored Soul or use Lay on Hands.

I guess my question is, most people seem to use Cocoon for self-healing. Isn't that really bad for Warforged? Or is there something I am missing? I am of course aware of UMD, but in EE stuff...it seems to not be as good? Also there doesn't seem to be a lot of Repair Amp (like there is Healing Amp)

I like to plan out my next few lives and get information from other players (which is why we are all here on the forums).

Any Warforged melees have any tips?

I have been wanting to make a Quarterstaff build that will have mainly ROG, maybe some MNK and Fighter?

I did build or a variation of it for my ROG and MNK lives towards completionist. Anyway, it was super fun, but I just wished I could heal a little better.

TLDR Version: How do Warforged (not Bladeforged) melee heal themselves in epic content?

[Mr_Helmet]

TLDR Version: How do Warforged (not Bladeforged) melee heal themselves in epic content?

You don't. They are either Bladeforged or they don't exist.

[Cantor]

With healer's friend and Hamp cocoon will do fine. But as stated most will have arcane class or BF, else why?

[Bacab]

You don't. They are either Bladeforged or they don't exist.


With healer's friend and Hamp cocoon will do fine. But as stated most will have arcane class or BF, else why?

@Mr Helmet...was kinda noticing that...and that makes me sad.

@Cantor...I guess I would say flavor. Also, I really enjoy the leveling process. Bladeforged denies me the fun of Misery's Peak...we seriously, I enjoy a lot of the lower and mid-level quests. I also don't want to HAVE to take Paladin at first level.

[SpartanKiller13]

With healer's friend and Hamp cocoon will do fine. But as stated most will have arcane class or BF, else why?

Basically this. WF are just at -50 base HAmp. Healer's friend will give you +10/10/10 healamp, and it's pretty easy to find an item or two that give another 50 or whatever.

@Cantor, I'm assuming the OP wants the immunities (like for a barbarian multiclass so you don't have to LRestore after ever rage).

[Bacab]

Basically this. WF are just at -50 base HAmp. Healer's friend will give you +10/10/10 healamp, and it's pretty easy to find an item or two that give another 50 or whatever.

@Cantor, I'm assuming the OP wants the immunities (like for a barbarian multiclass so you don't have to LRestore after ever rage).

The immunities are nice at early levels...but really, I just really like Warforged.

As a War Vet, the lore behind Warforged is something that I can identify with. Kinda odd I would guess, but I just like the way a lot of their armors look and the idea of relic of a harder time struggle to find their place is just really a good story that I play in my head when I play as a WF.

[Connman]

If you are looking just for flavor, be ready to do a lot of EH and EN. There is nothing wrong with that. Aside from some top end EE quests you will be just fine taking the healers friend enhancements and getting some healing amp from some items.

Maybe be prepared to run in the destiny with the healing circle thing. The +50% double strike epic moment thingie that it has is pretty good as well. When you are thinking flavor you just have to be prepared to not be a top end build. Just run your favorite quests at a level you can handle and enjoy it.

[Bacab]

If you are looking just for flavor, be ready to do a lot of EH and EN. There is nothing wrong with that. Aside from some top end EE quests you will be just fine taking the healers friend enhancements and getting some healing amp from some items.

Maybe be prepared to run in the destiny with the healing circle thing. The +50% double strike epic moment thingie that it has is pretty good as well. When you are thinking flavor you just have to be prepared to not be a top end build. Just run your favorite quests at a level you can handle and enjoy it.

Very good advice

[unbongwah]

Have a look at CThru's Arcane Warrior thread (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/476982-The-Arcane-Warrior-3-different-builds); the Kensei buffs make WF ftr 8 / wiz or sorc 12 a lot more viable than they used to be for someone who either doesn't have or doesn't want to make a Bladeforged instead.

[Qhualor]

Due to lack of repair amp and since DDO is mostly a "be self sufficient" game, I play WF in heroics. In epics my fighters final life will be BF for Reconstruct LRing out the Paladin level.

In the past I suggested changing some enhancements/cores in trees to also have repair amp, to also code heal amp gear with repair amp and add repair pots to House C favor just like SF favor. Doesnt look like it's going to happen.

[Mr_Helmet]

Due to lack of repair amp . . .

There's a TON of repair amp now sir, take a look at the Cannith Crafting.

Baldeforged healing is very strong, just wish there were a way to get quicken on a pure fighter

[Lonnbeimnech]

You can still max out umd and buy stacks of recon scrolls, kinda like how everyone else buys stacks of heal scrolls.

[Qhualor]

There's a TON of repair amp now sir, take a look at the Cannith Crafting.

Baldeforged healing is very strong, just wish there were a way to get quicken on a pure fighter

I am talking about named items that would be good for a forged fighter.

[Mr_Helmet]

I am talking about named items that would be good for a forged fighter.

Why does it have to be named? Repair amp, Double-strike, insightful STR gloves are best in slot at nearly any level

[Grace_ana]

You could play a melee WF arti. That way you could melee and still have access to reconstruct.

[Qhualor]

Why does it have to be named? Repair amp, Double-strike, insightful STR gloves are best in slot at nearly any level

that would completely depend on end game gear, which is how I plan my characters. in the meantime, yes, crafting is an option but I'm only at 20% chance for ML 18 right now.

[NaturalHazard]

take the healers friend enhancements, get heal amp item, get a devotion and insightful devotion item, then cocoon, will be behind everything else but should be more than ok for epics.

If you can craft that stuff your golden.

Heal and insightful heal items are good too, again CC crafting is a great boon.

its kind of a waste of AP though 7 to get to -20% but yeah if its someone trapped as a warforged melee get him that stuff.

Some people just really like the race do not want to fork out for a Lesser heart +1 to play a bladeforged and not have paladin levels.

[Torkzed]

There's a TON of repair amp now sir, take a look at the Cannith Crafting.


Heh...maybe more than necessary. I crafted a docent with repair amp and repair spell power and I regularly over-repair myself now.

(not totally relevant to this thread, since I am playing a bladeforged 18/2 sorc/pal for a sorc life, but it was a shock to see my reconstruct hitting me for about 200 more hp than my max! Not quite as bad at 25 as it was at 18, but I still reconstruct for slightly more than my total hp. I will likely wear that ML 18 docent to cap)

[Mofus]

Not sure if the Artificer ring from the challenges is still viable, but it had some nice things on it, like a repair clicky and some thing called repair systems that was sorta like vampirism if I remember correctly.

[Bacab]

Not sure if the Artificer ring from the challenges is still viable, but it had some nice things on it, like a repair clicky and some thing called repair systems that was sorta like vampirism if I remember correctly.

I actually have the level 3,11, 20 version of it.

It gives recon/repair potency.

It also gives a version of "Healer's Bounty", but for Repair/reconstruct.

Basically, as you get hit, you sometimes get a free repair or reconstruct.

It also has repair clickies.

They are great items in my opinion.

[Bacab]

take the healers friend enhancements, get heal amp item, get a devotion and insightful devotion item, then cocoon, will be behind everything else but should be more than ok for epics.

If you can craft that stuff your golden.

Heal and insightful heal items are good too, again CC crafting is a great boon.

its kind of a waste of AP though 7 to get to -20% but yeah if its someone trapped as a warforged melee get him that stuff.

Some people just really like the race do not want to fork out for a Lesser heart +1 to play a bladeforged and not have paladin levels.

"have to spread it around" etc etc...

My Crafting is at 200-ish...I really haven't messed with the new crafting system yet, but I have a lot of the essences etc. I should look into that some more.

Thanks for the advice.

I'm not trapped on WF though...I choose it lol.

To be fair, about every Christmas, I but an Otto's Box. I still have mine. I am saving it for a time when I am trapped on a life that I just hate or if I just need to get to 20 to quest with buddies on their epic toons.

[SpartanKiller13]

My Crafting is at 200-ish...I really haven't messed with the new crafting system yet, but I have a lot of the essences etc. I should look into that some more.

Save around 40k essences, grab a 100% xp booster and a few success boosters, and bump that over 300. If you don't want to TP buy 35% boosters you can get the quest 25% ones, but you'll probs need more like 50k. Craft only bound ML shards for leveling.

There's some excellent guides around the forums, but the gist of it is crafting xp is tied to difficulty. 3% chance of success gives a ton of xp, and with a 35% booster you succeed almost half the time.

I went from 100 to 330 or so in 20 minutes, with 45k essences. Should have waited for 50k, but I was a bit lower starting level.

[goodspeed]

OK, I have a simple question...

Other than say Reconstruct from having 11 Wizard levels or 12 Sorcerer levels or 15(?) Artificer levels...

How do most Warforged self-heal in Epics?

I suppose they could be Clerics or Favored Soul or use Lay on Hands.

I guess my question is, most people seem to use Cocoon for self-healing. Isn't that really bad for Warforged? Or is there something I am missing? I am of course aware of UMD, but in EE stuff...it seems to not be as good? Also there doesn't seem to be a lot of Repair Amp (like there is Healing Amp)

I like to plan out my next few lives and get information from other players (which is why we are all here on the forums).

Any Warforged melees have any tips?

I have been wanting to make a Quarterstaff build that will have mainly ROG, maybe some MNK and Fighter?

I did build or a variation of it for my ROG and MNK lives towards completionist. Anyway, it was super fun, but I just wished I could heal a little better.

TLDR Version: How do Warforged (not Bladeforged) melee heal themselves in epic content?

way back some idiot thought id be awesome as a melee to be a robot to recieve twice as many heals both from your obnoxious lil (edit) of a healer (Oh you know what they were like) and the arcane caster. Well when reality set in that the sorc/wiz said Im a friggn god flipped em the bird and solo'd on, and the healer got ticked because they had to heal harder the dream went off into the woods and a gunshot rang out.

More so today in the fact that if you cant keep yourself alive the build is suck. Hence the master race BladeLock!!!

[URjustSOL]

Save around 40k essences, grab a 100% xp booster and a few success boosters, and bump that over 300. If you don't want to TP buy 35% boosters you can get the quest 25% ones, but you'll probs need more like 50k. Craft only bound ML shards for leveling.

There's some excellent guides around the forums, but the gist of it is crafting xp is tied to difficulty. 3% chance of success gives a ton of xp, and with a 35% booster you succeed almost half the time.

I went from 100 to 330 or so in 20 minutes, with 45k essences. Should have waited for 50k, but I was a bit lower starting level.

Essences go for 750,000 per 1,000 in the AH on Cannith. I have been farming Orchard on 2 lvl 20's for the past 2 years sending extra EQ to an alt for deconstructing. I have about 20k essences. I feel like I should just give up. It looks like crafting is more than a full-time job and my crafting skill is only at 130.

[goodspeed]

You don't. They are either Bladeforged or they don't exist.

lol pretty much this. Warforged were a pipe dream back in the day and a goofy one even with the population large. The thought was warforged were immune to **** near everything (every type of hold) poisons, level drain, ect ect (keyword WERE!!!) And with lots of heal amp and healers friend or whatever they called it 2 or 3 linear trees ago they would be acceptable to be healed by a cleric as well as a sorcerer or wizard or even a pally.

Now in theory this was good and was a win win for a barb. And yes it did work in the dedicated raids where you had your guild there. But heres the real picture. Back then and still to a variably better degree sorcerers and even wizards with the slower cast time OBLITERATED EVERYTHING. I mean you maxed fireball and that was it the room was dead expecially undead lol. So the statement became "Why am I going to waste my mana on your worthless (edit) when I AM THE GROUP!


And now with todays pop being as it is, as well as many other options and robots being flippn nerfed to almost be a fleshy!!; warforged are a mage class that has recon... and wants to stay pure. Otherwise its blade. Even with mages because you get 2 recons. One a cheap sla, the other a quickened spell. This has been a ddo history. Thank you and goodnight.


lol **** it I got necro fooled

[Theolin]

To me it comes down to can you survive 1 fight?
If so then you can repair amp, wand/scroll mastery, umd, recon scrolls.
if not ... ummm.....

[FuzzyDuck81]

Cocoon is generally the way to go for most classes that can't inherently cast healing spells IMO - ok, warforged & bladeforged get a penalty, but it's really not too bad once you've got healer's friend (only 3 AP to max it now instead of 6 as it used to be) & some healing amp gear plus some spellpower. I'll admit the main robot I've got at cap at the moment is a bladeforged, but I don't have the reconstruct SLA on him - he's a shintao monk & healing ki plus cocoon gives plenty, and I keep a stack of elixirs from the daily dice on him too for emergencies. Warforged barbarians should have a generally easy time of healing through positive energy too since it's another class that gets massive boosts to healing amplification.

[krimsonrane]

OK, I have a simple question...

Other than say Reconstruct from having 11 Wizard levels or 12 Sorcerer levels or 15(?) Artificer levels...

How do most Warforged self-heal in Epics?

I suppose they could be Clerics or Favored Soul or use Lay on Hands.

I guess my question is, most people seem to use Cocoon for self-healing. Isn't that really bad for Warforged? Or is there something I am missing? I am of course aware of UMD, but in EE stuff...it seems to not be as good? Also there doesn't seem to be a lot of Repair Amp (like there is Healing Amp)

I like to plan out my next few lives and get information from other players (which is why we are all here on the forums).

Any Warforged melees have any tips?

I have been wanting to make a Quarterstaff build that will have mainly ROG, maybe some MNK and Fighter?

I did build or a variation of it for my ROG and MNK lives towards completionist. Anyway, it was super fun, but I just wished I could heal a little better.

TLDR Version: How do Warforged (not Bladeforged) melee heal themselves in epic content?

They heal the same way a fleshy rogue does. UMD and scrolls. At level 29 or 30 you get to take a feat with a 30 second cooldown that casts reconstruct.

[guises]

Essences go for 750,000 per 1,000 in the AH on Cannith. I have been farming Orchard on 2 lvl 20's for the past 2 years sending extra EQ to an alt for deconstructing. I have about 20k essences. I feel like I should just give up. It looks like crafting is more than a full-time job and my crafting skill is only at 130.

I barely play and my crafting skill is at 280, all from essences that I farmed myself. You are doing something wrong here.

First, higher level items give more essences. So if you're farming for them then do at level 30 if you can. Second, like the other guy said above: the amount of exp that you get per essence spent is more-or-less constant, but you can get a big boost by taking advantage of the fact that crafting boosters are additive rather than multiplicative. So if you save your essences for some weekend with a boost to crafting exp, and you use a 75% potion (which you can get for free by making a new character and doing the little crafting tutorial quest), and you use some of the 25% boosters (which you can get for free the same way), you can get 20k+ exp from a single craft with a reasonable success rate.

The trick is to make sure that you catch those really nice high-exp crafts when they're available, you don't want to waste them. So when you're crafting for exp: every time you successfully craft something, close the window and reopen it again - this will refresh the list and save you a lot of heartache.

[kmoustakas]

Heartwood is an amazing docent, both the heroic and legendary version. I am hard pressed to find an item with better sheltering on it and it has great repair amplification to boot. It just looks horrible.

[Jetrule]

I just did three heroic racial/reaper warforged lives and did three builds. A melee 20 artificer who I also ran through to 30, a Favored soul/fighter 14/6 who also ran to 30 and a 20 warlock ES/TS, after level 13. All could self heal in reapers but I think the best was warlock with shining through, temp hit point aura scroll mastery and 80+ heal amp and healing scrolls. The thing is the heal amp and shining through and all that dont kick in till later levels in heroics. same with the heal and reconstruct spells with the builds I used. So I took healers friend except on the arti life, wore heal/repair amp items and had a heal hire Until those points. The healing elixirs used repair on me even though I had much better heal amp on two of the lives. Which made them even worse.

[Jetrule]

Heartwood is an amazing docent, both the heroic and legendary version. I am hard pressed to find an item with better sheltering on it and it has great repair amplification to boot. It just looks horrible.

I agree That docent is great especialy on a class with repair spells. And as far as its looks, yeah Mirror of Glamouring ftw.

[Saaluta]

Also, if you don't want to do C crafting, you can find people running quests for favor or xp and do the threnal quests. There is a item in the end rewards list called the Brass Beaver that casts some form of repair/recon and gives amp from what I remember...just another option you can use if you want :)

Saal :)