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Zafaron
12-24-2016, 06:58 AM
Any idea why the blast shapes don't proc things like empyrean magic? The aura procs empyrean fine, but I don't really want to play the aura/burst style of warlock.
Anaximandroz
12-24-2016, 09:45 AM
Because the other shapes aren't coded as light damage?
DrWily
12-24-2016, 01:24 PM
The Aura shape is glitched and will actually proc anything upon it hitting an enemy, even things it specifically shouldn't actually be proccing.
Vooduspyce
12-24-2016, 04:49 PM
Empyrian Magic gains stacks when casting light, fire and healing spells. So if you're doing those types then it should start stacking up. So Enlightened Spirit busts will create stacks. Also any warlock with t4 ES Spiritual Retribution would create stacks in any shape stance.
I assume it will also create stacks in any shape stance if you are fiend pact as long as your pact damage is on. Can someone verify this plz?
Tlorrd
12-24-2016, 08:35 PM
Empyrian Magic gains stacks when casting light, fire and healing spells. So if you're doing those types then it should start stacking up. So Enlightened Spirit busts will create stacks. Also any warlock with t4 ES Spiritual Retribution would create stacks in any shape stance.
I assume it will also create stacks in any shape stance if you are fiend pact as long as your pact damage is on. Can someone verify this plz?
Confirmed ... any light damage procs also proc empyrean magic.
Zafaron
12-25-2016, 09:00 AM
Confirmed ... any light damage procs also proc empyrean magic.
I just tried with blast shape cone, chain, and focused blasting and none of them proc empyrean magic, even with the T4 Spiritual Retribution trained.
I don't know if the blast shapes would proc empyrean magic or blood and radiance, etc if you have fiend pact, but I know they don't if you have fey pact.
zehnvhex
12-28-2016, 07:39 AM
Blast shapes are coded really weirdly. They don't benefit from certain 'on spell cast' things like Draconic Spell Augmentation/Emp Magic, but will proc lantern ring, summer smoke and shiradi proc's. There seems to be no real rhyme or reason to it. It's a sort of "When it works it works" thing.
Aura/eld. burst/spi. blast will proc things as you would expect a spell cast to work however.
slarden
12-30-2016, 06:08 AM
Blast shapes are coded really weirdly. They don't benefit from certain 'on spell cast' things like Draconic Spell Augmentation/Emp Magic, but will proc lantern ring, summer smoke and shiradi proc's. There seems to be no real rhyme or reason to it. It's a sort of "When it works it works" thing.
Aura/eld. burst/spi. blast will proc things as you would expect a spell cast to work however.
Yep. Hellball also procs things you wouldn't expect it to proc.
The aura is proc'ing everything which the devs acknowledged when they stopped the aura from proc'ing master of knowledge. They made a statement that they made the coding change to master of knowledge (doesn't work with aura on) rather than the aura because they didn't want to mess with the proc'ing synergies - so even though aura wasn't working as intended - it seems the devs are ok with the behavior.
The shapes proc very few things which the devs never addressed. It's just much easier to get procs (and fast) with the aura.
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