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Denox21
12-06-2016, 10:16 AM
Hello. I have a build I made and was looking for some help tweaking it. I think I found a build I wanna go with but wanted to get some advice on this other one first.


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Level 30 True Neutral Human Male
(5 Fighter \ 12 Wizard \ 3 Bard \ 10 Epic)
Hit Points: 516
Spell Points: 2020
BAB: 13\13\18\23
Fortitude: 20
Reflex: 22
Will: 14

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 30)
Strength 11 18
Dexterity 12 19
Constitution 17 24
Intelligence 18 34
Wisdom 8 15
Charisma 8 15

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3 \par +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7 \par +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11 \par +4 Tome of Strength used at level 15 \par +5 Tome of Strength used at level 19 \par +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3 \par +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7 \par +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11 \par +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15 \par +5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19 \par +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3 \par +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7 \par +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11 \par +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15 \par +5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19 \par +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3 \par +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7 \par +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11 \par +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15 \par +5 Tome of Intelligence used at level 19 \par +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3 \par +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7 \par +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11 \par +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15 \par +5 Tome of Wisdom used at level 19 \par +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3 \par +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7 \par +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11 \par +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15 \par +5 Tome of Charisma used at level 19 \par
Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 30)
Balance 2 23
Bluff 0 14
Concentration 0 19
Diplomacy 0 14
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 0 14
Heal 0 14
Hide 0 16
Intimidate 0 14
Jump 0 16
Listen 0 14
Move Silently 0 16
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 1 25
Search 1 25
Spellcraft 0 24
Spot 0 14
Swim 0 16
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Druid
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Warlock
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Human Bonus) Shield Mastery
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Single Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Bard)


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Completionist


Level 4 (Bard)


Level 5 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons


Level 6 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell


Level 7 (Wizard)


Level 8 (Fighter)


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Single Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Piercing Weapons


Level 10 (Wizard)


Level 11 (Wizard)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons


Level 13 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Mental Toughness


Level 14 (Wizard)


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery


Level 16 (Wizard)


Level 17 (Wizard)


Level 18 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Single Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Improved Mental Toughness


Level 19 (Wizard)


Level 20 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Dark Reaping (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Zombie (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Vampire (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Wraith (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Skeletal Knight (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy III (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy IV (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Improved Shrouding (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Stalwart Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Item Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Item Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Item Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Resilient Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Resilient Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Resilient Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Armor Expertise (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Armor Expertise (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Armor Expertise (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Shield Expertise (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Shield Expertise (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Shield Expertise (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Hardy Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Hardy Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Hardy Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Reinforced Armor (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Reinforced Armor (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Reinforced Armor (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Confidence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Swashbuckling (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Blow By Blow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Blow By Blow (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Blow By Blow (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Action Boost: Doublestrike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Action Boost: Doublestrike (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Action Boost: Doublestrike (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Skirmisher (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Two Steps Ahead (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Agent of Good (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Harper Enchantment (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Strategic Combat I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Know The Angles (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Know The Angles (Rank 2)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Precision


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Primal Sphere: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Heavy Armor Training


Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Perfect Single Weapon Fighting


Level 29 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Multiple Spheres: Arcane Warrior


Level 30 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Divine Sphere: Deific Warding
Feat: (Legendary) Scion of Arborea




I went palemaster for wraith form and immunities/survivability.
I went fighter for survivability also with shield feats, stalwart stance with 20% hp and 6 con and +4 to melee power from weapon focus.
I went bard for SWF and skirmisher for dps and a little bit of defense with buckler.
Also went int to hit/damage to, I hope, add to my death aura and NEB healing.
Will be using light armor and balizarde.

I was looking to solo EEs and under without having to die every minute. Am I way off base? Still haven't gotten the hang of building chars all these years since I have never played endgame. Just went to 20 then TRed.

unbongwah
12-06-2016, 12:12 PM
Normally I would say to build around bard 3 / ftr 6 to take advantage of stacking crit bonuses from handaxes (15-20/x4 crits FTW), but that's not possible if you also want wraith form. So in this particular instance, I would suggest building around T5 Kensei rather than T5 SD and build to use rapiers using Keen Edge + Swashbuckling. Either that or at least go for Block & Cut in SD instead of Imp Shrouding. If not going for a ftr T5, what's the point of ftr 5?

Denox21
12-06-2016, 09:59 PM
Thank you for the help. It seems building for t5 keen edge + weapon master for the 20 melee power that seems like a must, leaves me 1 point shy of wraith form. And I can't think of any other thing I can give up in the enhancements and the build still work. Guess this is a wash. Guess I will go back to researching for weeks and doing build after build in the planner lol.

unbongwah
12-07-2016, 09:41 AM
Forgot to point out my Wraith Blade (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/477252-March-of-the-Bladesingers!?p=5850691&viewfull=1#post5850691), which is my baseline for comparison.

Wraith form puts a hard requirement of 12 wiz lvls and 21 APs, so that constrains your remaining levels and APs. The most common options being 12/8, 12/6/2, or 12/5/3 depending on tier-5 abilities. I suppose 12/4/4 is also an option if you want to stick with Imp Shrouding (T5 PM) for 35% Incorporealty.

Denox21
12-07-2016, 10:17 AM
What do you think of this for soloing as much as i can and quests as hard as i can?


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 4.31.203
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Level 30 Lawful Good Human Male
(2 Monk \ 12 Wizard \ 6 Warlock \ 10 Epic)
Hit Points: 520
Spell Points: 2005
BAB: 11\11\16\21
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 20
Will: 19

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 30)
Strength 15 22
Dexterity 11 18
Constitution 16 26
Intelligence 17 32
Wisdom 9 16
Charisma 9 16

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3 \par +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7 \par +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11 \par +4 Tome of Strength used at level 15 \par +5 Tome of Strength used at level 19 \par +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3 \par +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7 \par +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11 \par +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15 \par +5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19 \par +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3 \par +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7 \par +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11 \par +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15 \par +5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19 \par +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3 \par +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7 \par +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11 \par +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15 \par +5 Tome of Intelligence used at level 19 \par +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3 \par +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7 \par +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11 \par +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15 \par +5 Tome of Wisdom used at level 19 \par +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3 \par +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7 \par +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11 \par +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15 \par +5 Tome of Charisma used at level 19 \par
Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 30)
Balance 4 20
Bluff 0 15
Concentration 0 20
Diplomacy 0 15
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 0 15
Heal 0 15
Hide 0 16
Intimidate 0 15
Jump 0 18
Listen 0 15
Move Silently 0 16
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 1 24
Search 1 24
Spellcraft 0 23
Spot 0 15
Swim 0 18
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Insightful Reflexes
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Druid
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Warlock
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Handed Fighting


Level 2 (Warlock)


Level 3 (Warlock)
Feat: (Selected) Completionist


Level 4 (Warlock)


Level 5 (Warlock)


Level 6 (Warlock)
Feat: (Selected) Adept of Forms


Level 7 (Warlock)


Level 8 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge


Level 9 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 10 (Wizard)


Level 11 (Wizard)


Level 12 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 13 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell


Level 14 (Wizard)


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms


Level 16 (Wizard)


Level 17 (Wizard)


Level 18 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Empower Spell
Feat: (Selected) Grandmaster of Forms


Level 19 (Wizard)


Level 20 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Eldritch Aura (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Aura of Courage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Shape Vestments (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Resilience of Body (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Resilience of Body (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Defense (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Defense (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Defense (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Resilience of Soul (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Resilience of Soul (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Resilience of Soul (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Bastion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Bastion (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Bastion (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Power of Enlightenment - Light I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Power of Enlightenment - Light I (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Power of Enlightenment - Light I (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Ward (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Ward (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Ward (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Power of Enlightenment - Light II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Power of Enlightenment - Light II (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Power of Enlightenment - Light II (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Retribution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Retribution (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spiritual Retribution (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spirit Blast (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spirit Blast (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Spirit Blast (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Shining Through (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Enlightened Spirit (Wlk) - Displacement (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Dark Reaping (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Zombie (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Vampire (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Wraith (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Agent of Good (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Harper Enchantment (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Strategic Combat I (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Versatile Adept (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Versatile Adept (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Know The Angles (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Know The Angles (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Know The Angles (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Strategic Combat II (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Tainted Spellcasting (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Planar Power (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Planar Power (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Planar Power (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Eldritch Focus (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Tainted Scholar (Wlk) - Utterdark Blast (Rank 1)


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Primal Sphere: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Elusive Target


Level 29 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Multiple Spheres: Arcane Warrior


Level 30 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Master of the Dead
Feat: (Legendary) Scion of the Shadowfell




Basically close to Sal'vations build but focusing more on defense I think with monk forms and extra feats.
Staff thf since I have sireth and to stay centered. I have balizarde but then i wouldnt be centered and lose monk benefits.

As a side note, it is people like you that keep making me come back to play this game after a needed break. Thanks for helping everyone out. Thank you for being so patient with us and putting up with probably horrible ideas and builds lol

Denox21
12-07-2016, 10:20 AM
Forgot to point out my Wraith Blade (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/477252-March-of-the-Bladesingers!?p=5850691&viewfull=1#post5850691), which is my baseline for comparison.

Wraith form puts a hard requirement of 12 wiz lvls and 21 APs, so that constrains your remaining levels and APs. The most common options being 12/8, 12/6/2, or 12/5/3 depending on tier-5 abilities. I suppose 12/4/4 is also an option if you want to stick with Imp Shrouding (T5 PM) for 35% Incorporealty.

Yeah I saw that but when you say gish it scares me lol

unbongwah
12-07-2016, 02:34 PM
Staff thf since I have sireth and to stay centered. I have balizarde but then i wouldnt be centered and lose monk benefits.
If you really wanted a wraith-form staff build, I would do wiz 12 / monk 6 / rog 2: T5 Henshin, Acrobatics (+15% atk speed), T3 Harper (Strategic Combat), wraith form, human Dmg Boost - that's about 70 APs right off the bat. Normally I'd put 11 APs into Ninja, but I'm pretty sure wraith form and Shadow Veil don't stack, so maybe 8 APs for Iron Skin.

Denox21
12-08-2016, 12:43 AM
Ok thank you sir. Again I appreciate it. I will check that out. I reincarnated with that build. If I don't like it, I will try the one you have suggested. I already made the build in the planner.