advice about fighter q-staff

[elhay12345]

hello,
i wanted to make a bf q-staff user. i want my split to be 12 fighter , 4 monk , 4 paladin

the 12 fighter is to get all kensi tree + power surge
4 paladin for saves + divine might + the ability to take quicken as a feat (for reconstuct)

with the new changes to monk in the soon to be update q-staff option become very good

key changes -
Critical Multiplier has moved out of all Mountain Stances and into the corresponding Sun stances
Quick Strike cooldown is now 18/15/12
Quick Strike and Lighting the Candle and all Elemental Words now cost 1AP per rank
The package granted with each Core Ability no longer grants Spell Power and Spell Critical; instead, they grant an equivalent amount of Melee Power.

now sun stance became very attractive +4 str and crit miltipler

the feat plan is - full thf, full cleave line, imp crit, dodge, grandmaster of forms and the ones needed for kensi

stat will be
str
con + cha
enough dex to get dodge
dump int and wis (will take force of personlity)

the build ment to be dps with some survivability. very high str (divine might + power surge to buff), defance stance for some prr and mrr, high dodge and very high saves, evasion ofc

im still not sure if taking rouge instead.
str rouge q-staff get less benifits but ill get ability to do traps + sneak attacks + 15% attack speed + skills, lest feat spending
with monk i get a bit batter bab, more str, more survivability

i prefer kensi tree over acrobat or Henshin Mystic tree and in epic i could use umd even with no rouge levels (power surge + high cha)

any advice? something i havent tought of?

[unbongwah]

im still not sure if taking rouge instead.
str rouge q-staff get less benifits but ill get ability to do traps + sneak attacks + 15% attack speed + skills, lest feat spending
with monk i get a bit batter bab, more str, more survivability
The atk speed bonus from Acrobatics is pretty significant, so unless Henshin gets it too, Acrobat > Henshin for DPS.

[BigErkyKid]

I wouldn't recommend it. First, because probably 18 fighter / 2 monk gives you the best MP possible and damage mods (little gain from extra monk). Second, because q-staffs are trash. They have low damage die (1d6), and basically only named are competitive. However, even among the named the damage is subpar, the as is the

If you want a q-staff build go for the sneaky boulder. At least this is somehow justified, since it is a dodge specialist. The staff is mandatory for it. But on a kensei forget it. That's my honest advise.

[elhay12345]

I wouldn't recommend it. First, because probably 18 fighter / 2 monk gives you the best MP possible and damage mods (little gain from extra monk). Second, because q-staffs are trash. They have low damage die (1d6), and basically only named are competitive. However, even among the named the damage is subpar, the as is the

If you want a q-staff build go for the sneaky boulder. At least this is somehow justified, since it is a dodge specialist. The staff is mandatory for it. But on a kensei forget it. That's my honest advise.

and if i use great axe?
the build stay the same, only need 2 monk levels so can get 14 fighter for extra feat

[BigErkyKid]

and if i use great axe?
the build stay the same, only need 2 monk levels so can get 14 fighter for extra feat

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/478432-Cetus-Supreme-Bladeforged-Fighter-Reborn

Use this template if you are unsure. Then as you get more familiar with the mechanics you can tweak it to make it play more like you want.

[Eth]

Is it true that henshin gets 10 MP per core? (I haven't played on lamma).
In that case 12fgt/6monk/2rogue looks pretty good.
15% attack speed, power surge, crit multi and range, 70 MP. DM can be replaced with KTA. Your saves will be worse obviously.

[C-Dog]

hello,
i wanted to make a bf q-staff user. i want my split to be 12 fighter , 4 monk , 4 paladin...

Problem is that you are (most probably) basing that split off of inexperience with the system, i.e. kinda guessing that it will do what you want it to. Which is why you're asking here in the first place, right?

Take that split away (or make it much more flexible), and you'll find the playstyle you're looking for, if not that exact class-split you hope might work. GL!

[elhay12345]

Is it true that henshin gets 10 MP per core? (I haven't played on lamma).
In that case 12fgt/6monk/2rogue looks pretty good.
15% attack speed, power surge, crit multi and range, 70 MP. DM can be replaced with KTA. Your saves will be worse obviously.

the 4 pala levels is mostly for quicken (thats the on thing i cant give up) and i start as bf so i must take 1 pala level anyway unless i lr + 1

[BigErkyKid]

Is it true that henshin gets 10 MP per core? (I haven't played on lamma).
In that case 12fgt/6monk/2rogue looks pretty good.
15% attack speed, power surge, crit multi and range, 70 MP. DM can be replaced with KTA. Your saves will be worse obviously.

Let's compare 12fgt/6monk/2rogue to a 18/2 monk with an axe / falchion, the new build Cetus wrote.

You gain 10 MP and attack speed with the q-staff. Let's say that the rest cancels out.

The big issue of staff builds nowadays is that staves are not good weapons. You need a named weapon to even try to be competitive. But even if you do get say a staff from ToEE (epic elemental bloom) you are at 16-20/x4, but with a weapon with poor DR capacity , bad die (1d6 vs 1d12 from axe or 2d4 falchion), inferior weapon mod, and kiss goodbye to nice things like vacuum. To make it even worse, there is no twitching with staff, and the attack speed buff is lost if you move.

For me the only reason to go staff is if you want to use a sneaky boulder build

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/470034-Sneaky-Boulder-Ultra-survivable-Centered-Thief-Acrobat?

Then with sneak attack and being a dodge specialist you are filling some sort of niche. Otherwise stay away from it.

[elhay12345]

The atk speed bonus from Acrobatics is pretty significant, so unless Henshin gets it too, Acrobat > Henshin for DPS.

myabe i will swtich to rouge levels instead of monk