Where to farm Essence of the Crusader?

[EllisDee37]

Four soul gems are now useful that didn't use to be, so they aren't yet listed on wiki. One of them (constructs) is pretty obvious, but the other three are less so:

Essence of the Dominator (used for Evil Outside Bane)
- Confirmed that Orthons and Bearded Devils give you these, so just pop into Vale wilderness and you're good to go

Essence of the Destroyer (used for Chaotic Outsider Bane)
- Confirmed that the demons in Purge the Fallen Shrine drop these. (HN = Weak, HH = Regular)

Essence of the Crusader (used for Lawful Outsider Bane)
- ???


Where's a lawful outsider that isn't a devil? I'm running around lama spamming trap the soul for testing purposes, so quick replies appreciated.

[Connman]

Undead beholders. Remember when you run litany the crusader answer is for the beholder.

edit* I am speculating but is seems reasonable. try epic orchard.

[EllisDee37]

Good call, will head there now. (EDIT: The epic version won't work; that gives strong gems. I realized that before I found one.)

Just checked the eladrin in Running with the Devils, figuring they're good, maybe they crusade. (Even though I know they're chaotic.) No joy; they give "of the Rebel" gems"

I thought it was funny that mephits give "of the Undecided."

[EllisDee37]

While I'm doing this, could it be efreet, maybe? Any non-rednames to try?

EDIT: Oh yeah, and where are the pseudo-dragons for dragon gems, again? I forget.

[EllisDee37]

Abishai give Dominator...

[Connman]

the pseudo dragons are in the stormhorns. north camp then head down to the camp.

Try the efreet in sins of attrition. he can be vorpaled so maybe trapped as well.

[Connman]

did you go into running with the devils. I believe that all of those glowie ball guys are outsiders and possibly lg.

[EllisDee37]

did you go into running with the devils. I believe that all of those glowie ball guys are outsiders and possibly lg.Yep, they give rebel gems.


Try the efreet in sins of attrition. he can be vorpaled so maybe trapped as well.Cool, on my way. (EDIT: Actually, Archon's Trial looks more promising. Heading there first.)


While I'm heading there, are there any lawful good outsiders in the game?

[GeoffWatson]

Try te Arxhons in Shavarath (Archon's Trial quest); they'll be LG.
Running with the Devils is no good, they're CG.

[EllisDee37]

Try te Arxhons in Shavarath (Archon's Trial quest); they'll be LG.
Running with the Devils is no good, they're CG.This is the winner.

Trial of the Archons, heroic casual, puzzle room after solving the second puzzle. What appears to be a named Trumpet Archon engages you. I was able to repeatedly spam trap the soul on her, and each time I did a crusader soul gem dropped on the floor even though she didn't die. So it appears to be an endless farm.

[EllisDee37]

the pseudo dragons are in the stormhorns. north camp then head down to the camp.I've tried this on both epic and heroic, but I'm not seeing any pseudodragons anywhere.

The camp immediately south of the northern teleport destination, correct?

[Connman]

I've tried this on both epic and heroic, but I'm not seeing any pseudodragons anywhere.

The camp immediately south of the northern teleport destination, correct?

I have seen them spawn in several of the camps out there. You might want to try the NW camp as I think there are more camps that way and less of the snowy stuff. They are always around when you don't want them, like when you have 15 hp left :D

[EllisDee37]

I have seen them spawn in several of the camps out there. You might want to try the NW camp as I think there are more camps that way and less of the snowy stuff. They are always around when you don't want them, like when you have 15 hp left :DIf they always spawn at camps, I'll just rapid-fire keep resetting and porting to the N camp until I find them.

They're actually in the camps when they spawn?

[spyder7723]

I've tried this on both epic and heroic, but I'm not seeing any pseudodragons anywhere.

The camp immediately south of the northern teleport destination, correct?

Thats the one, but it's Random and streaky. Sometimes that camp has 2. Most times none. A more reliable spot imo is the area outside what goes up. And outside breaking the ranks is another so so spot. None of them are guarantees so it's a lot of recalling and resetting instances. Because of this i prefer to do a circuit of all 3. But no matter what you do, there is no good way to speed it up, it's a matter of picking the least suckage.

[EllisDee37]

Woohoo! Got one from northern camp. They're so little, hehheh.

[Connman]

... A more reliable spot imo is the area outside what goes up. And outside breaking the ranks is another so so spot.....

Dual box. Enter what goes up. Person at stormhorns entrance resets instance. Step out of WGU. Repeat until eyes bleed.

[Kulothar]

The Pseudodragons keep giving me (Greater/Normal) Dragon Soul Gems not essence of the Crusader.

Did Trial and after the second puzzle nothing engaged me. Did it 3 times (Elite, Normal, Casual) on a lv 20 Necro doing lv 20 & lv 30 trap the soul with no luck. If I complete the trial but trigger the last puzzle, two of them engage me but both are immune to trap the soul and all death/neg level spells so no gems. They also can remotely comet fall you all the way back to the shrine so you can't shrine up without killing them. Is there a trick to triggering the one after the second puzzle?

So far I have not found anything else that gives Essence of the Crusader.

[EllisDee37]

Solve all three puzzles, then when you do the fourth single-tile puzzle she says "You've chosen poorly." The floor electrifies, and two trumpet archons start spamming blade barrier all over the place. You can repeatedly trap their souls, generating as many crusader gems as you like.

Note: They aren't hurt by trap the soul, but they drop soul gems anyway.

[Rykka]

Solve all three puzzles, then when you do the fourth single-tile puzzle she says "You've chosen poorly." The floor electrifies, and two trumpet archons start spamming blade barrier all over the place. You can repeatedly trap their souls, generating as many crusader gems as you like.

Note: They aren't hurt by trap the soul, but they drop soul gems anyway.

That's great! Now I can troll party members AND get crusader soul gems? Win!

[SpartanKiller13]

Do you guys actually craft specific Bane weapons a lot? It seems really expensive for only a small gain over (say) bludgeoning, to me? Even ML 34 is 7d10 vs 7d6, which is average 38.5 vs 24.5, and by then you probably won't be using a crafted weapon. If the Essence of the Crusader you're after is only for Lawful Outsiders, wouldn't you be better off making a Force (metallic?) of Aligned? Unless you run a specific quest a lot, I guess.

Like I can totally understand a ML 4 or so Ghost Touch of Undead Bane beater, but much past that doesn't seem very effective to me. Possibly that's just because I'd have to roll a caster just to get soul gems.

I'd really love an Everbright of Ooze Bane, but that's not possible AFAIK so *throws hands up* Idk.

What am I missing? Thanks in advance.

[EllisDee37]

What am I missing? Thanks in advance.I assume it's for Reapers, who are Lawful Outsiders. (Pretty sure they're Lawful Neutral.) They aren't undead so undead bane won't hurt them.

[Arianrhod]

I'd really love an Everbright of Ooze Bane, but that's not possible AFAIK so *throws hands up* Idk.

What am I missing? Thanks in advance.

Broccoli Basher :D

[Kulothar]

The Pseudodragons keep giving me (Greater/Normal) Dragon Soul Gems not essence of the Crusader.

Did Trial and after the second puzzle nothing engaged me. Did it 3 times (Elite, Normal, Casual) on a lv 20 Necro doing lv 20 & lv 30 trap the soul with no luck. If I complete the trial but trigger the last puzzle, two of them engage me but both are immune to trap the soul and all death/neg level spells so no gems. They also can remotely comet fall you all the way back to the shrine so you can't shrine up without killing them. Is there a trick to triggering the one after the second puzzle?

So far I have not found anything else that gives Essence of the Crusader.

Thank you for the reply but I must be doing something wrong... went back again and did that on all 4 Heroic settings (C/N/H/E) on a lv 20 necro. First off they spam comet fall besides BB so killed the necro pretty quick. secondly, once I brought in a lv 30 Rogue, killed one and got the others agro on the rogue, I used at least a dozen each of the lv 20 and 30 TtS spells (DC 71) with no soul stones dropping. Every level drain/petrify spell I tried gave an Immune message and even tried shattermantle. I even tried killing first the right one then next time the left one. I guess I will go back in when I hit lv 30 on my necro.

I have several friends and guildies that run reaper besides myself that wanted Lawful outsider bane shards so I will look for an alternative.

[EllisDee37]

Thank you for the reply but I must be doing something wrong... went back again and did that on all 4 Heroic settings (C/N/H/E) on a lv 20 necro. First off they spam comet fall besides BB so killed the necro pretty quick. secondly, once I brought in a lv 30 Rogue, killed one and got the others agro on the rogue, I used at least a dozen each of the lv 20 and 30 TtS spells (DC 71) with no soul stones dropping. Every level drain/petrify spell I tried gave an Immune message and even tried shattermantle. I even tried killing first the right one then next time the left one. I guess I will go back in when I hit lv 30 on my necro.Go in on heroic casual. Trigger a fight. Ignore all the spells -- it's heroic casual. My level 21 pale master challenge farmer can ignore it, and he's super gimp. So any epic wizard should be essentially in god-mode in there on heroic casual.

I think you're just not seeing the soul gems on the floor after you cast the spell. Here's a sample video I just captured:


https://youtu.be/OAnijp1xytI

[Niminae]

If they always spawn at camps, I'll just rapid-fire keep resetting and porting to the N camp until I find them.

They're actually in the camps when they spawn?

Woohoo! Got one from northern camp. They're so little, hehheh.

They seem to be, or so it looks to me, the familiars of the casters there. Similar to how the boss in Tracker's Trap has a (huge) pseudo-dragon familiar. So if they are too small to spot from a distance you might try heading towards any casters you see.


I assume it's for Reapers, who are Lawful Outsiders. (Pretty sure they're Lawful Neutral.) They aren't undead so undead bane won't hurt them.

I think they are LE Outsiders.

[SpartanKiller13]

I assume it's for Reapers, who are Lawful Outsiders. (Pretty sure they're Lawful Neutral.) They aren't undead so undead bane won't hurt them.

Do you really carry a weapon swap just for reapers?

I meant an Undead Bane because they're common enough and you generally know in advance so you could just use it for most of the quest, not for Reapers (didn't even consider a bane for them).

Whenever I see a reaper it's full DPS mode on them until they die, and there's no waiting to swap my force/bludgeoning maul to a force/Lawful Bane one lol. Also that's like +8 damage at level 15, really doesn't seem worth crafting/carrying/swapping unless you know in advance?


Broccoli Basher :D

ML 25 hurts a bit, by then I can gently caress most oozes to death.

[EllisDee37]

Do you really carry a weapon swap just for reapers?Me personally? No. But I can see why someone might.

[Kulothar]

A Lawful outsider repeating lt. xbow on a caster pre lv 12 is worth it if you are going to run Reapers each time you TR. Post lv 12 I use my vacuum or 3xPos GS until higher levels but looking to build something better for them GS. On my rogue maybe an off hand weapon. I was thinking lv 4 and 10 with augments force/LO Bane at lv 4 then con damage and a ruby eye slotted at lv 10. At lv 30 I may do one just for swapping out if I can stay far enough back or an off hand weapon for melee. I personally avoid getting close to any of them other than the fear reapers if I can range them since spell points matter. I let the tank get the agro then support/heal them between taking down whatever agros on me. On my pally it is kind of a moot point but would be nice to at least find the soul stones.

[Zistra]

Do you really carry a weapon swap just for reapers?


Not I. But a weapon specifically for the Archon end fight in Archon's Trial (ML13 Evil of Lawful Outsider Bane) isn't unreasonable. Lots of people get to that fight and can barely do any DPS at all.

Regrettably, there's no "Good Outsider Bane" or you could make the same weapon for that and Running With the Devils.

Still.. for one quest, probably adequate to go with Bludgeoning, Piercing or Slashing instead.