tempest twf fighter.

[padith22]

hello and thanks for looking at my attempt to do something different.
all feed back welcome.

Truhan
16/4 Fighter/Ranger
Chaotic Good Purple Dragon Knight


Level Order

1. Fighter. . . . .6. Fighter. . . . 11. Fighter. . . . 16. Fighter
2. Ranger. . . . . 7. Fighter . . . .12. Fighter . . . .17. Fighter
3. Ranger. . . . . 8. Fighter . . . .13. Fighter . . . .18. Fighter
4. Ranger. . . . . 9. Fighter . . . .14. Fighter . . . .19. Fighter
5. Ranger. . . . .10. Fighter . . . .15. Fighter . . . .20. Fighter


Stats
. . . . . . . .36pt . . Tome . . Level Up
. . . . . . . .---- . . ---- . . --------
Strength. . . . 18. . . .+7. . . .4: STR
Dexterity . . . 14. . . .+4. . . .8: STR
Constitution. . 16. . . .+4. . . 12: STR
Intelligence. . 10. . . .+5. . . 16: STR
Wisdom. . . . . 10. . . .+4. . . 20: STR
Charisma. . . . .8. . . .+5. . . 24: STR
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: STR

Skills
. . . . . F. R .R. R .R. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F
. . . . . 1. 2 .3. 4 .5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
Intim . . 1. ½ .½. . .2. 1. 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. . . . . . . 2. 2. 2. 5. 23
Balance . 1½ ½. ½ .½. 1 .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ . . 11
UMD . . . 1. ½ .½. 1 .½. ½. . .½ .½ .½ .1 .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .½ .1 . . 11
Spot. . . ½. 1 .1. 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . .½ .1 .1½ 1½ ½ .½ . . . .10
Jump. . . 1. 1 .1. 1 . . . .1 .1 .1 .1 . . 1. 1. . . . . . . . . . . .10
Heal. . . 1. 1 .1. 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4
Swim. . . . .1. 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .2
Tumble. . 1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
. . . . .12. 7 .7. 7 .7. 3. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5


Feats

.1. . . . : Exotic Weapon: Bastard Sword
.1 PDK. . : Power Attack
.1 Fighter: Cleave
.2 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Undead
.3. . . . : Completionist
.6. . . . : Great Cleave
.6 Fighter: Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
.8 Fighter: Weapon Focus: Slashing
.9. . . . : Improved Critical: Slashing
10 Fighter: Weapon Specialization: Slashing
12. . . . : Combat Expertise
12 Fighter: Dodge
14 Fighter: Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing
15. . . . : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
16 Fighter: Greater Two Weapon Fighting
18. . . . : Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing
18 Fighter: Mobility
20 Fighter: Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing
21 Epic . : Bulwark of Defense
24 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
27 Epic . : Blinding Speed
28 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
29 Destiny: Elusive Target
30 Epic . : Two Weapon Defense
30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea


Spells

Ranger
Longstrider

Enhancements (80 AP)

Tempest (33 AP)
Shield of Whirling Steel, Tempest
Improved Reaction III, Improved Defense III, Whirling Blades
Improved Parry III, Improved Dodge III, Whirling Blades
Storm Dancer, Whirling Blades, Strength
Storm Tempest, The Growing Storm III, Whirling Blades, Strength

Stalwart Defender (27 AP)
Toughness, Stalwart Defense
Item Defense I, Durable Defense III, Stalwart Defensive Mastery III
Resilient Defense III, Armor Expertise III
Strong Defense III, Strength
Swift Defense, Tenacious Defense III, Reinforced Armor III

Kensei (19 AP)
Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades, Spiritual Bond, Strike with No Thought
Weapon Group Specialization, Exotic Weapon Mastery, Haste Boost III


ED not set in stone will change accordingly.
Weapon Group Specialization
Weapon Group Specialization, Shattering Strike III, Strength

Purple Dragon Knight (1 AP)
Damage Boost


Destiny (24 AP)

Legendary Dreadnought
Legendary Tactics III, Strength
Momentum Swing III, Imp. Combat Expertise, Imp. Power Attack, Strength
Lay Waste, Critical Damage III, Strength
(none)
Devastating Critical
Master's Blitz

Twists of Fate (11 fate points)
Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer)
Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
Purge the Wicked (Tier 1 Crusader)

[the_one_dwarfforged]

[/QUOTE=padith22;5858238]Enhancements (80 AP)

Tempest (33 AP)
Shield of Whirling Steel, Tempest
Improved Reaction III, Improved Defense III, Whirling Blades
Improved Parry III, Improved Dodge III, Whirling Blades
Storm Dancer, Whirling Blades, Strength
Storm Tempest, The Growing Storm III, Whirling Blades, Strength


Kensei (19 AP)
[list] Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades, Spiritual Bond, Strike with No Thought
[list=1] Weapon Group Specialization, Exotic Weapon Mastery, Haste Boost III[/QUOTE]

Back to the drawimg board.

[unbongwah]

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish with this build. It seems like you've given up the best aspects of Kensei and Tempest for...well, I'm not sure what. On the Kensei side, you're missing Power Surge, One Cut and the capstone, which is a significant chunk of DPS; I'm pretty skeptical the Tempest enhancements make up for it. And you didn't take the higher-level ftr feats (tactics or heavy armor) which is are part of the incentive for going fighter; in fact you didn't invest in tactics at all. You also invested in the Improved Dodge enhs, but those only apply in light armor or robes; and without Evasion there's little incentive for ditching hvy armor. It looks like you were going for Whirlwind Attack, but stopped short of taking it. And to cap it off, you didn't take a tier-5 from Kensei nor SD.

[NaturalHazard]

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish with this build. It seems like you've given up the best aspects of Kensei and Tempest for...well, I'm not sure what. On the Kensei side, you're missing Power Surge, One Cut and the capstone, which is a significant chunk of DPS; I'm pretty skeptical the Tempest enhancements make up for it. And you didn't take the higher-level ftr feats (tactics or heavy armor) which is are part of the incentive for going fighter; in fact you didn't invest in tactics at all. You also invested in the Improved Dodge enhs, but those only apply in light armor or robes; and without Evasion there's little incentive for ditching hvy armor. It looks like you were going for Whirlwind Attack, but stopped short of taking it. And to cap it off, you didn't take a tier-5 from Kensei nor SD.

Could a fighter 12/6/ranger/2 rogue split work?

Take the kensei cores up to power surge plus the other goodies. Take the tempest to the tier 5's Dance of death. DWS, take melee power boost, exposing strike. Take the stalwart defender tier two core, then the PPR MMR stance and call it quits, plus human action boost. I have to see if it can all fit in. Hes missing level 6 ranger, manyshot, improved two weapon fighting, be nice feats plus burst range damage. And rams might, but I think a pure fighter would be far ahead on dps and maybe survivabilty in heavy armor. Rogue for evasion and umd, will other types of evasion work with the tempest evasion so its basically like having improved evasion?

Might even be able to do some trapping with rogue? I mean not EE or anything but its a nice xp bonus in some quests.

[adrian69]

Could a fighter 12/6/ranger/2 rogue split work?

Take the kensei cores up to power surge plus the other goodies. Take the tempest to the tier 5's Dance of death. DWS, take melee power boost, exposing strike. Take the stalwart defender tier two core, then the PPR MMR stance and call it quits, plus human action boost. I have to see if it can all fit in. Hes missing level 6 ranger, manyshot, improved two weapon fighting, be nice feats plus burst range damage. And rams might, but I think a pure fighter would be far ahead on dps and maybe survivabilty in heavy armor. Rogue for evasion and umd, will other types of evasion work with the tempest evasion so its basically like having improved evasion?

Might even be able to do some trapping with rogue? I mean not EE or anything but its a nice xp bonus in some quests.

This would work better compared to the OP, but if you go dex w/ evasion, then I'd try that first to see if you'd need "tempest" evasion first. It's expensive and I do fine without it on my pure ranger build, in either dex or str. Tanacious Defense is always worth it if you're going heavy and have the AP imo, but you can't get it with light armor, unless you got a buckler.

Pure fighter, ranger, rager, rogue will be ahead of current op. Sorry to be harsh, but the goals seemed scattered.

15/5 would have even been a better option imo. though that's a waste compared to the paladin.

12-6 ranger/2 x ap spread: I would go probably with something like this I guess.

Tempest:

Core 1 and 2 (3 if dex) 2 AP (3)
Whirling Blades 1-5: 10 AP
Improved Reaction: 3 AP (remove 1 if dex)
Improved Parry: 3 AP
Crit Mastery: 3 AP
Improved Storm Dancer 4 AP
Growing Storm 3 AP
DoD 3 Ap
Duel Perfect: 3 AP

Total 37 AP

Kensei (exotic weapon focused-Khop)
Core 1-3: 3 AP
Haste: 3 AP
Weapon Specialization 1-4: 8 AP
ABs: 4 AP
Shattering Strike: 1 AP
Strike at the heart: 2 AP
Opportunity Attack: 2 AP w
Liquad Courage: 2 AP
Exotic Weapons: 2 AP


Defence Stance 6 AP

KtA: 8 Ap

human damage boost: 1 AP

[NaturalHazard]

This would work better compared to the OP, but if you go dex w/ evasion, then I'd try that first to see if you'd need "tempest" evasion first. It's expensive and I do fine without it on my pure ranger build, in either dex or str. Tanacious Defense is always worth it if you're going heavy and have the AP imo, but you can't get it with light armor, unless you got a buckler.

Pure fighter, ranger, rager, rogue will be ahead of current op. Sorry to be harsh, but the goals seemed scattered.

15/5 would have even been a better option imo. though that's a waste compared to the paladin.

12-6 ranger/2 x ap spread: I would go probably with something like this I guess.

Tempest:

Core 1 and 2 (3 if dex) 2 AP (3)
Whirling Blades 1-5: 10 AP
Improved Reaction: 3 AP (remove 1 if dex)
Improved Parry: 3 AP
Crit Mastery: 3 AP
Improved Storm Dancer 4 AP
Growing Storm 3 AP
DoD 3 Ap
Duel Perfect: 3 AP

Total 37 AP

Kensei (exotic weapon focused-Khop)
Core 1-3: 3 AP
Haste: 3 AP
Weapon Specialization 1-4: 8 AP
ABs: 4 AP
Shattering Strike: 1 AP
Strike at the heart: 2 AP
Opportunity Attack: 2 AP w
Liquad Courage: 2 AP
Exotic Weapons: 2 AP


Defence Stance 6 AP

KtA: 8 Ap

human damage boost: 1 AP

yeah tempest evasion is hard on the Aps, So its just a better idea to forego evasion and just wear heavy armor? 2 paladin will give 6? more saves as well. But its hard to figure out what he wants, he did not state what weapons he will be using, you mentioned going dex based on my version would be better so with scimitars then?