Getting Platinum

[Adurna]

Hullo, a friend of mine asked me and a bunch of people to come try out ddo.

He had been playing a few years back, and is about level 25 so he decided to start anew with us. Now, he has a guild and we were wondering a quick way to make platinum to buy a better ship or at least amenities.

I tried to look around for a few guides but the only one I found said to get lily petals and sell them for 40k or so, we tried that but there were no petals on auction save ours and that post is kinda outdated so it might not be relevant anymore.

So if you could point us towards a quick way of making some plat and perhaps tips on items that we shouldn't be seeling to a npc we'd be really grateful.

Thanks!

[TitusOvid]

Hm, I guess bying raid timer bypasses in shop for real money and sell them on the auction house is a no go? because you could spend that money on astral shards to by yourself a better airship ....

On what server is that guild?

[Adurna]

that is definitely a no go.

We're on cannith

[cdbd3rd]

Hullo, a friend of mine asked me and a bunch of people to come try out ddo.

He had been playing a few years back, and is about level 25 so he decided to start anew with us. Now, he has a guild and we were wondering a quick way to make platinum to buy a better ship or at least amenities.

I tried to look around for a few guides but the only one I found said to get lily petals and sell them for 40k or so, ...

Lily Petals for 40K ... yeah, don't think you'll get takers on that. However, collectibles ARE a decent source of plat as they are selling fairly well on the AH currently.

A few other low-level things to do includes farming for stuff that's fairly easy to get, but that some folks will buy instead of spending the time to farm up themselves.
(shop your local AH for price ranges for your server):

Farm Durk's for Muckbanes. Those are still selling fairly well.
http://ddowiki.com/page/Durk%27s_Got_A_Secret

Farm 3BC rare Strinati for his rune-arm Strinati's Hand Cannon. I have had those sell for 25K up to 65K on AH.
http://ddowiki.com/page/Cannoneer_Strinati

Farm Relic of a Sovereign Past for Adamantine Ore. Ore is used with the Stone of Change for the Adamantine Ritual.
http://ddowiki.com/page/A_Relic_of_a_Sovereign_Past


Stuff like that.

[Stoner81]

Sent you a PM :)

Stoner81.

[FranOhmsford]

Hullo, a friend of mine asked me and a bunch of people to come try out ddo.

He had been playing a few years back, and is about level 25 so he decided to start anew with us. Now, he has a guild and we were wondering a quick way to make platinum to buy a better ship or at least amenities.

I tried to look around for a few guides but the only one I found said to get lily petals and sell them for 40k or so, we tried that but there were no petals on auction save ours and that post is kinda outdated so it might not be relevant anymore.

So if you could point us towards a quick way of making some plat and perhaps tips on items that we shouldn't be seeling to a npc we'd be really grateful.

Thanks!

Lily Petals are NOT one of the big sellers amongst collectables - 3 Lily Petals = One Cure Pot so these are pretty much worthless on the AH.

Collectables that do sell for good plat amounts on the AH are:

1) Medium Eberron Dragonshards - You should be able to put these up for 40k bid, 75k buyout and have them sell within 3 days {usually much faster} - if you've got 3 of them then put them up at 3 for 200k buyout to guarantee a quick sale.

2) Lightning-Split Soarwood - Extraordinarily Rare and part of the requirement for a weapon buff these will sell for 100k buyout IF you can find one in the first place.

3) Fragrant Drowshoods - The mushroom nodes in Tangleroot and Phiarlan Carnival are great for dropping these and they sell for 25k each.

4) Small Eberron Dragonshard - Much more common than Mediums but still sell for 35k each or 100k for 3.

5) Vials of Pure Water and Deadly Feverblanch - Quite common drops so tend to sell for about 1k each - Stack em up in 6 and 12 to sell them.

6) Silver Flame Hymnals - Unsteady sellers but when they do sell you should be able to get 5-10k per.

there are other sellable collectables but the above are the ones that are most likely to sell and the prices they usually will sell for.

Another good way to earn Plat {And Astral Shards if you can use the Astral Shard House} is to farm 3 Barrel Cove Slayer for Tiefling Assassin's Blade and Chieftain's Spear- Both of these will sell on the ASAH for 50-100 Shards or on the Plat AH for whatever you want to put them up for, just remember the higher the price you charge the longer it will likely take to sell.
P.S. These are Bind on Equip items so if you want to sell them don't equip them!

[Adurna]

Lily Petals for 40K ... yeah, don't think you'll get takers on that. However, collectibles ARE a decent source of plat as they are selling fairly well on the AH currently.

A few other low-level things to do includes farming for stuff that's fairly easy to get, but that some folks will buy instead of spending the time to farm up themselves.
(shop your local AH for price ranges for your server):

Farm Durk's for Muckbanes. Those are still selling fairly well.
http://ddowiki.com/page/Durk%27s_Got_A_Secret

Farm 3BC rare Strinati for his rune-arm Strinati's Hand Cannon. I have had those sell for 25K up to 65K on AH.
http://ddowiki.com/page/Cannoneer_Strinati

Farm Relic of a Sovereign Past for Adamantine Ore. Ore is used with the Stone of Change for the Adamantine Ritual.
http://ddowiki.com/page/A_Relic_of_a_Sovereign_Past


Stuff like that.
Thank you!

I'll try the muckbanes, but there are only currently a few in the shard exchange so I'm not sure how much to sell them for.
My friend doesn't seem to have the pack needed for the cannon, but adamantine seems good, any idea of an approximate price range for that? There do't seem to be any in auction either.



Edit: Thank you FranOhmsford ! I'll see which of these we can do with the packs he has and get onto it!

[FranOhmsford]

Thank you!

I'll try the muckbanes, but there are only currently a few in the shard exchange so I'm not sure how much to sell them for.
My friend doesn't seem to have the pack needed for the cannon, but adamantine seems good, any idea of an approximate price range for that? There do't seem to be any in auction either.


Muckbane is pretty easy to farm so it's AH Price will be low - Try 7K bid, 10k buyout.

Muck's Doom from The Pit is much harder to farm and outright better {although it does have a higher minimum level} - This may sell for 100+k Plat or for 25 AS.

Adamantine Ore - You need to be Lvl 9 to farm this as that is the minimum level you can enter the quest on - You can however farm it on Casual and you don't have to complete the quest each time.
There are a minimum 15 ores in the quest {congregated in one tunnel} and the Dwarves you kill in the quest have a very tiny chance of dropping them so sometimes you might get 16.
Sell these on the AH in stacks of 10 for 7k bid, 10k buyout - Basically 1k plat each.

To farm Adamantine Ore quickly in this Quest {Relic of a Sovereign Past - The questgiver is in the Temple of the Sov Host in House D, the Quest itself is in the Black Anvil Forest in House K} enter quest and go down first tunnel to main room.
Once in main room take 2nd door on left and go down tunnel clearing side rooms till you get to the one with the chest. Loot chest for key.
Now go back to main room and take the 4th door going from the left or if you prefer the first door on the right {from the entrance not from the tunnel you just came ourt of}.
This is the tunnel with the addy ore, kill the Dwarves, pick up 15 ores.
There is an NPC in the room at the end of this tunnel who will give you nice gear for Ore - Check if there's anything you want from him before selling it.

[Enoach]

One sure fire method of squeezing out more platinum is to sell at the specific merchants and not the General Vendor. It takes more time but you will get more.

Next, invest in Haggle and use a Haggle boosting item including exceptional charisma. This will increase how much you get when you sell to a vendor as well as reduce you cost of purchases.

The AH game is another way to do this.

I have found that creating Unbound Crafted Skill items such as what is needed by a Rogue/Artificer.

[Baktiotha]

The best way to earn plat is just to quest. When possible run quests with multiple chests or run at level quests with orange-named and higher champions.

Increase selling price by earning favor for the area where you are selling. It does not affect brokers or guild vendors but it does affect general vendors.

If you are grouping collectively you can try passing all items to a single player running either a bard or a rogue that has bumped their haggle skill. That one person could run around the various brokers and sell off the items for a bit better return.

Things that seem to always sell on the auction house -- collapsed portable holes, tomes, greensteel blanks, thunderforged blanks. Some augments sell well and certain ioun stones.

I prefer to sell by setting a low starting price and by not listing a buyout price. List the item for 3 days. That lets the market determine the price and you don't set the buyout too low that way. I set the starting price at about what the item sells for to a vendor -- rougly 30% of base price for most of my characters.

Greensteel blanks are easy to create if you have a guild ship with crafting stations.

Loot runs of quests with lots of chests is good. I don't see a very good return on investment doing loot runs for specific items. It is boring to me and too much like work.

[TitusOvid]

I just farmend 3BC wilderness rares for someone else. And there you can get the chieftains spear, treasure maps, greatbow of scrag, Strinati's Hand Cannon and scorching wraps. Drop chance is decent. It is a low lvl area and a good route to run.

All items are selling good in the auction house.

[moomooprincess]

If you are looking to sell stuff at ripoff prices then ignore my post.

Collectables, ingredients, essences. If you are expecting to sell at high prices, won't happen. I bet if you put Greater Essences up at 300 plat per, they will sell. Then work your way up. Lightning Split Soarwoods sell okay. During the last 10 year event, I pulled around 24 LSS in that event from the breakables, which is the best I have seen in the game.

Events, such as Risia Ice Games(sell recipes, motes, potions, Snow Gems), Midwinter Games(sell recipe and motes), Crystal Cove(sell air Elementals)

Augments. I won't buy level 8 augments or less unless really cheap(under 500 plat), except Feather Falling and Water Breathing, but higher level augments I will buy. But I won't buy silly prices.

The rare stuff, Raid Timers sell well. Jewelry Repair Kits, I keep all of mine. But I will bid on them. Collapsed Portable Holes. Tomes. LARGE Bags.

I sell good vorpal weapons on the plat AH at cheap prices. I don't sell them at 40,000 plat, I sell them at 1400 plat to 2400 plat. I won't be using them maybe someone else will like them. I upgrade my vorpals and get rid of the lesser ones. I like Vorpals with doublestrike and red augment slots.

[FranOhmsford]

Collectables, ingredients, essences. If you are expecting to sell at high prices, won't happen. I bet if you put Greater Essences up at 300 plat per, they will sell. Then work your way up. Lightning Split Soarwoods sell okay. During the last 10 year event, I pulled around 24 LSS in that event from the breakables, which is the best I have seen in the game.

24 LSS?

I haven't pulled that many in the entirety of the 6 years I've been playing DDO - In fact I've maybe pulled 15 all told.

Lightning Split Soarwoods are literally the rarest of all standard Collectables! And because they're used as part of a weapon Upgrade they will sell for 100k plat each.
If you can find them then great, if you can buy them cheaper great but it's not ripping people off if I put an item up and it sells within an hour!

If items you put on the AH keep coming back to you then bring your price down - If they sell within an hour of you putting them up maybe consider upping your price a bit.


As for Greater Essences - The Servers have pretty much standardised the AH price for these at 300 plat per essence - If there's plenty on there already and you want yours to sell then put em up for 250 plat per.
BUT ignore the people offering in general chat to pay 200 per - They are ripping you off!
And don't even think of putting any up for more than 300 per because chances are someone else will undercut you within minutes and it will be theirs that sell not yours.

Now 300 plat per essence doesn't sound like much but you get multiple greater essences in almost every quest and it quickly adds up.

[cdbd3rd]

Adamantine Ore - You need to be Lvl 9 to farm this as that is the minimum level you can enter the quest on - You can however farm it on Casual and you don't have to complete the quest each time.
There are a minimum 15 ores in the quest {congregated in one tunnel} and the Dwarves you kill in the quest have a very tiny chance of dropping them so sometimes you might get 16.
Sell these on the AH in stacks of 10 for 7k bid, 10k buyout - Basically 1k plat each.

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Bonus to this one. If you have the Monster Manuals, Dwarves give very nice XPs.

[Ulfo]

I prefer to sell by setting a low starting price and by not listing a buyout price.

You do it wrong ( standart newbie mistake ). 8)

NEVER put stuff in AH without buyout price!

Mostly peoples never wait max time, they just do one stake and never check it again ( i trade about 8 year in different MMO and have many expirience at this issue ), so after 3 day you get minimum profit after 3 day awaiting. Furthermore, many peoples just never check positions without buyout price at all, so you just cut your potential customer range.


List the item for 3 days. That lets the market determine the price and you don't set the buyout too low that way. I set the starting price at about what the item sells for to a vendor -- rougly 30% of base price for most of my characters.

As say before - we all appreciate our time. Personally, if i see needed position with low start price without buyout and same position with higher price and with buyout in acceptable price range - i instabuyout second. And after i almost always resell it later for more profit. ;)

So, NEVER list max time! One day is more than enough for fast selling!



As for Greater Essences - The Servers have pretty much standardised the AH price for these at 300 plat per essence - If there's plenty on there already and you want yours to sell then put em up for 250 plat per.

Don't know where you play, but in different servers is different prices. At Argonessen or Orien currently price range for great essencies 20 ( not 200 ;) ) - 400 ppc.


BUT ignore the people offering in general chat to pay 200 per - They are ripping you off!

Lol. Just lol. I regular buy essencies below 200 ppc and never buy more than for 400 ppc.


And don't even think of putting any up for more than 300 per because chances are someone else will undercut you within minutes and it will be theirs that sell not yours.
Now 300 plat per essence doesn't sound like much but you get multiple greater essences in almost every quest and it quickly adds up.

Essences with price in range 200-400 ppc currently was regullary fast buyout in many AH.

Of course, now, after NoWorries say about exchange rate 5:1 for lesser essencies in U32, price may be drop drastically.

[FranOhmsford]

Don't know where you play, but in different servers is different prices. At Argonessen or Orien currently price range for great essencies 20 ( not 200 ;) ) - 400 ppc.



Lol. Just lol. I regular buy essencies below 200 ppc and never buy more than for 400 ppc.



Essences with price in range 200-400 ppc currently was regullary fast buyout in many AH.

Of course, now, after NoWorries say about exchange rate 5:1 for lesser essencies in U32, price may be drop drastically.

No idea what ppc means? ppe would be price per essence but what's ppc?

And I've sold greater essences on every single server {even Wayfinder} and at 300 plat per essence they sell within 3 days guaranteed so anyone selling for less is making a big mistake.

[ValariusK]

Here's the fundamental insight. If you want to quickly get a lot of platinum, you need to offer what people who HAVE a lot of platinum want. What most of them want (for platinum) is typically convenience.
My suggestion is to farm the rares in Thunderholme. TF ingots will sell for a LOT of plat if you put it on the AH, particularly in lots of 20. They can also frequently be sold for astral shards, but a lot of people wouldn't think twice about dropping 1M plat for 20 or 30 TF ingots.
Other good candidates are black stones (from haunted halls, but there are issues there right now) and the mushrooms from Temple of elemental evil.

One last note: ALWAYS post a buyout (remember the insight above, people with lots of plat want convenience, and no buyout is a pain to deal with---we don't have ebay-like features allowing us to set limit bids and such in this AH, so most people won't bother with a no-buyout auction).

[Baktiotha]

You do it wrong ( standart newbie mistake ).

I do not do it wrong and do not like the insinuation that I do or that I am a newbie. I list in a way that works for me and that gets much more than I would have expected had I set a buy out price. Each person is free to list how they want. I posted what works for me.

The most important thing I posted was to stop thinking about how to make plat on the auction house and to get busy questing. The more quests a player runs and the more loot they acquire the more plat they will have. Once characters hit around level 14 or so the valuable loot all sells to the same set of 4 NPCs -- 1 in house D, 1 in house K and 2 in the marketplace. Give the loot to a high haggle character and have them sell.

The plat earned that way will easily out pace loot earned on the auction house. And, the characters will not be caught in a farming mode or wasting time running quests for little or no XP.

Loot that is only useful for a few levels might appeal to impulse buyers and benefit from buyout prices. The loot I sell (listed in the post) is all usable regardless of level so waiting does not matter.

You may have a different method but that does not make any other method wrong.

[FranOhmsford]

Here's the fundamental insight. If you want to quickly get a lot of platinum, you need to offer what people who HAVE a lot of platinum want. What most of them want (for platinum) is typically convenience.
My suggestion is to farm the rares in Thunderholme. TF ingots will sell for a LOT of plat if you put it on the AH, particularly in lots of 20. They can also frequently be sold for astral shards, but a lot of people wouldn't think twice about dropping 1M plat for 20 or 30 TF ingots.
Other good candidates are black stones (from haunted halls, but there are issues there right now) and the mushrooms from Temple of elemental evil.

These are items that unless you have tonnes of real money to buy AS with you should NEVER put on the Plat AH!

These are items that if you aren't going to use them yourself you should put on the ASAH to build up your AS so you can buy your Airship and Airship Upgrades and skip those really annoying quests in Sagas like Mirror and Crucible and buy the super rare named items you want and can't get yourself!

Well ok maybe the mushrooms for ToEE can go on the AH but TF Ingots and Black Stones are ASAH only!

[ValariusK]

These are items that unless you have tonnes of real money to buy AS with you should NEVER put on the Plat AH!

These are items that if you aren't going to use them yourself you should put on the ASAH to build up your AS so you can buy your Airship and Airship Upgrades and skip those really annoying quests in Sagas like Mirror and Crucible and buy the super rare named items you want and can't get yourself!

Well ok maybe the mushrooms for ToEE can go on the AH but TF Ingots and Black Stones are ASAH only!


Fran:
The original poster wants a LOT of plat, probably 2 million or so. One quick run by several guildies on Thunderholme rares will net you a bunch of said ingots. No need to put them on the Shard AH if plat is what they need.
They don't require anything special in particular to farm, they're more or less assured drops, only the amount is a little random.

[FranOhmsford]

I do not do it wrong and do not like the insinuation that I do or that I am a newbie. I list in a way that works for me and that gets much more than I would have expected had I set a buy out price. Each person is free to list how they want. I posted what works for me.

The most important thing I posted was to stop thinking about how to make plat on the auction house and to get busy questing. The more quests a player runs and the more loot they acquire the more plat they will have. Once characters hit around level 14 or so the valuable loot all sells to the same set of 4 NPCs -- 1 in house D, 1 in house K and 2 in the marketplace. Give the loot to a high haggle character and have them sell.

The plat earned that way will easily out pace loot earned on the auction house. And, the characters will not be caught in a farming mode or wasting time running quests for little or no XP.

Loot that is only useful for a few levels might appeal to impulse buyers and benefit from buyout prices. The loot I sell (listed in the post) is all usable regardless of level so waiting does not matter.

You may have a different method but that does not make any other method wrong.

I for one will endorse Ulfo's point as I won't waste my time bidding on an item when I know for a fact I'll be gazumped 1 minute before the Auction ends!

I don't even look at Bid Only Auctions as I want the item there and then NOT in 3 days time!

And many of those people who do buy bid only auctions won't even make a bid until there's less than 5 minutes left on the Auction because they're looking for a bargain - So bid only generally hurts the seller because it puts off many buyers and only entices the bargain hunters.

[FranOhmsford]

Fran:
The original poster wants a LOT of plat, probably 2 million or so. One quick run by several guildies on Thunderholme rares will net you a bunch of said ingots. No need to put them on the Shard AH if plat is what they need.
They don't require anything special in particular to farm, they're more or less assured drops, only the amount is a little random.

The original poster is also a newbie who needs plat now not in 6 months time - Farming Thunderforged is probably out of his range right now.

[ValariusK]

The original poster is also a newbie who needs plat now not in 6 months time - Farming Thunderforged is probably out of his range right now.


His guild leader has a level 25. That'll do.

[FranOhmsford]

His guild leader has a level 25. That'll do.

So his Guild Leader has to do this farming solo while the rest of the OP's group is doing what exactly?

Also what if his Guild Leader isn't capable of solo farming Thunderholm?

[ValariusK]

So his Guild Leader has to do this farming solo while the rest of the OP's group is doing what exactly?

Also what if his Guild Leader isn't capable of solo farming Thunderholm?

30-40 ingots is all it'd probably take, and people do xp groups farming the thunderholmer slayer area all the time (only slayer area more common is probably Orchard in epics) if his level 25 isn't a strong one.
That's maybe an hour or so, two if the xp group is a poor one, hardly a great hardship.

[dunklezhan]

Break everything, auction every invisibility potion you find. My experience is that they sell well, and reliably.

[Ulfo]

No idea what ppc means? ppe would be price per essence but what's ppc?

And I've sold greater essences on every single server {even Wayfinder} and at 300 plat per essence they sell within 3 days guaranteed so anyone selling for less is making a big mistake.

ppc = per piece. Usual abbreviature in many MMO. 8)

You make big mistake, because you can sell it for 400 ppc at least within 3 days. But your biggest mistake - 3 day timeout and no buyout. Next time just set 1 day and do buyout 400 ppc - and you do more priofit for 3 times less time spend. 8)

[Ulfo]

I do not do it wrong and do not like the insinuation that I do or that I am a newbie.

Hmmm... I reread my post and nowhere find when I'm say about you is newbie. I'm say about typical newbies mistake which usual do inexperienced traders. But now, of course, after your answer, for me it's absolutely clear. You surely newbie ( and possibly ( not sure) - noob) in MMO trading profession. 8)


I list in a way that works for me and that gets much more than I would have expected had I set a buy out price. Each person is free to list how they want. I posted what works for me.

Oh, guy! Not all what works is works best way! You post about way works for you - I'm post about your way is suboptimal and I can't recommend your way for profit. Of course, if you don't want do max profit for min time - you absolutely free do as you wish, but then don't do wrong advice for peoples who clearly want maximize efficiency they trade in AH.


The most important thing I posted was to stop thinking about how to make plat on the auction house and to get busy questing.

Why? In most games I manufacturing and trading as my main ingame profession. It's same (if not much important 8)) part of games! Why instead trading we must 100500 times run same quests as before? 8)


The plat earned that way will easily out pace loot earned on the auction house.

It's only because you do trading in AH wrong... oh, sorry... your very inefficient way. ;)


Loot that is only useful for a few levels might appeal to impulse buyers and benefit from buyout prices. The loot I sell (listed in the post) is all usable regardless of level so waiting does not matter.

It's absolutely not important, same principles is identical for any tradable stuff. That you don't understand it, only shows your inexperience in the field :P.


You may have a different method but that does not make any other method wrong.

It depends. If you just want put stuff in AH and forget about it - feel free do it as you wish. If you want do more profit for less time - your method surely wrong. ;)

P.S. English not native for me, sorry for possible misunderstanding. 8)

[Ulfo]

Well ok maybe the mushrooms for ToEE can go on the AH but TF Ingots and Black Stones are ASAH only!

Wrong. Both can be find in AH regular. Not very often, but regular.

[Baktiotha]

I think there is some misconception in this thread. IMO OP *wants* plat but that is not the same as *needs* plat.

Question, how long does it take to go from L1 to L15? Keep in mind OP has a group ready made so does not need to wait on any LFMs.

I think 8 to 12 hours of play should be sufficient. First levels go fast, later levels a little slower, but somewhere around 1 hour per level with a regular group and a group leader that knows the quests -- keeping in mind that the characters are all first life so XP requirement is lowest in game.

IMO that is 3 or 4 days tops.

And what does ship give that is critical? OP and friends would be better off joining an established guild for a week or two and just questing. They'd get better buffs and they'd build up plenty of plat along the way.

All the "get rich quick" advice doesn't apply to a bunch of new, low level, characters. Plat doesn't really start to build until late levels anyway. Take a week or two in an established, large guild. Pay dues by selecting favor rewards when offered. Build 65-100k plat along the way.

I just ran 3 quests with my L21 character and banked 200k plus a level. Multiply that times 3 or 4 friends and it becomes easy to earn millions of plat just by questing. No need to farm, no need for the auction house -- just quest and sell all of the vendor trash that the characters find.

[harmlesslarry]

first off I think Cannith is one of the lower pop servers amirite? If so, then making gold will be harder.

next Id like to say that you should look for items that have complimentary stats such as open lock with disable device, search and spot, and spell schools with one stat base spell points and the other crit. Items like this i post for 100k and usually have no trouble selling them. Underwater action items will fetch you a lot, so will tomes. Vorpal items not so much, but a good paralyzing battle axe is worth another 100k.

Things to vendor would be stuff with low stats on lesser used skills that are not complementary, such as sundering with spell penetration, that sort of thing.

Also on my server greater essences sell for 1k each easily. I see the posts here and i feel they are lowballing you. Keep in mind that there are two kinds of players: rich and noob. If a player is rich they will pay a high price for good loot, because money is not an object. It might sound unfair but when you think of it, everyone had to work their wallets up the same way. Trust me when I say there are players that have no qualms spending 100k on a random item if its good.

[harmlesslarry]

One other thing, if you think that a piece of loot is good then post it for 10 to 20k. You arent losing much if it doesnt sell, and youre then able to see what will sell and what wont. I once had a guy ask me for gold and he said he doesnt bother selling on AH for 5 to 10k and I said thats not the right way to look at it. Everything is worth something to someone.

Oh and also if your essences do sell for 1k on your AH then deconstruct items. Fast way to get them.

[Adurna]

Thank you guys, for your help and tips!

I'll try to keep all your advice in mind.

About these essences tho, they're the ones from cannith crafting? I tried to look into it and deconstruct a few items. Not sure exactly how it works but I've set aside a few guides to read. Is it better to deconstruct common items than sell them?

[cdbd3rd]

I for one will endorse Ulfo's point as I won't waste my time bidding on an item when I know for a fact I'll be gazumped 1 minute before the Auction ends!...

While Ulfo's presentation was a bit harsh, I agree that buyouts are recommended. Set a buyout for an amount you hope your bids get to. It doesn't cost extra.
I rarely even bother looking at non-buyout items, either.


...
About these essences tho, they're the ones from cannith crafting? I tried to look into it and deconstruct a few items. Not sure exactly how it works but I've set aside a few guides to read. Is it better to deconstruct common items than sell them?

Yes, the essences are used for Canith Crafting.
Deconning your items nets plat** as well as essences. If you're not in a huge rush, always take the time to decon your vendor junk.


**- though the plat-from-decon process is a bit bugged atm, and sometimes we're not getting our plat portion.

[Sunnie]

I prefer to sell by setting a low starting price and by not listing a buyout price. List the item for 3 days. That lets the market determine the price and you don't set the buyout too low that way. I set the starting price at about what the item sells for to a vendor -- rougly 30% of base price for most of my characters.
Then you're not selling to me, if I need an item, I need it now and not in 57 hours at 4 in the morning. And if it's a good item someone will bid over me anyway, why even bother? If I bid early I just end up having to run to a mailbox, get the plat back, place a new bid on the item, get overbid 10 minutes later, run to mailbox.... Screw that. Buyout or bust!

Besides, nothing prevents people from bidding on items even if they have a buyout. So set it at what you think is "acceptable-high". At worst you get the bids you'd get anyway, at best you make a nice profit.

[Stoner81]

I just gave the OP 1 million plat since I was capped on all my characters and have nothing to spend it on so figured might as well help some folks out :)

Stoner81.

[Ulfo]

I just ran 3 quests with my L21 character and banked 200k plus a level.

I have... shadow of doubt here. ;)

What exactly 3 quest you run for banked 200k? I ask because only yesterday I run full LoD EE, sell stuff with my highly charismatic bard and skill boosts to ES vendors... and it give me only about 38 k - more than 5 times less. So? 8)




**- though the plat-from-decon process is a bit bugged atm, and sometimes we're not getting our plat portion.
In reality, personally i think we don't must have any plat return here. Here must be money sink, not money fountain. At least, we rent deconstruct device from house Cannith, why they must give any money to return? 8)

[Baktiotha]

I just gave the OP 1 million plat since I was capped on all my characters and have nothing to spend it on so figured might as well help some folks out :)

Stoner81.

Well, that is the fastest method.

[Baktiotha]

I have... shadow of doubt here.

Alright, a bit of an exaggeration. When I typed it I really thought I'd made about that but I was back in the game today and in 4 quests I managed to pull ~66k plat. That's about 2 hours playing, gaining XP and making a level (from 21 to 22) -- although not all the level was due to just those quests.

I did try the suggestion on selling greater essences. I have to admit that at 400 plat per essence that what I put on the AH sold within an hour. I sold in lots of 100 essences when I could. Small lot of ~10 still waiting to sell. I'm on Orien.

Essences do take a bit of time to build up so maybe smart to transfer to a single guild mate and let them post for the group.

For other items I tried listing 8 hours with a buyout and sold 1 item far below buyout and the other went unsold. I think if I'm selling well below buyout that it might be better to leave it on the AH -- but I'll have to try two of the same things, one with 8 hours and one with 3 days to see. I think I have some collapsed portable holes or maybe large bags laying around to try it on. Have to go look.

Anyway, looks like about 3k/character level per quest and selling essences definitely works at 400 per essence buy outs.

[kanordog]

I just gave the OP 1 million plat since I was capped on all my characters and have nothing to spend it on so figured might as well help some folks out :)

Stoner81.


That's a nice gesture.

My only question is that what level is their guild? Coz the plat ship below level 70 is only 360K plat. Below 40 is only 50K and not many room for amenities on them.

I think Stoner just sorted the whole thing out...

[Ulfo]

Alright, a bit of an exaggeration. When I typed it I really thought I'd made about that but I was back in the game today and in 4 quests I managed to pull ~66k plat. That's about 2 hours playing, gaining XP and making a level (from 21 to 22) -- although not all the level was due to just those quests.

Yea, it's much more reliable money amount. Of course, sometimes with rare drops like Collapsed Portable Holes it can be raised with much more range, but this rare stuff usual not vendorable, but auctioned anyway. 8)


I did try the suggestion on selling greater essences. I have to admit that at 400 plat per essence that what I put on the AH sold within an hour. I sold in lots of 100 essences when I could. Small lot of ~10 still waiting to sell. I'm on Orien.

As I say before, it's very fast way to profit, yea. I'm sell thousands this way, if not more. 8)


Essences do take a bit of time to build up so maybe smart to transfer to a single guild mate and let them post for the group.

If you spend some time for find PC crafters - you can sell almost any amount almost instant when they online.


For other items I tried listing 8 hours with a buyout and sold 1 item far below buyout and the other went unsold.

I'm find 8 hours just not enough for good trade - mostly players have specifically time zones for play, so set auction to 8 hour you just cut potential customers range. Optimal currently is 1 day.


I think if I'm selling well below buyout that it might be better to leave it on the AH -- but I'll have to try two of the same things, one with 8 hours and one with 3 days to see. I think I have some collapsed portable holes or maybe large bags laying around to try it on. Have to go look.

Yea, practice is criterion of truth. 8)


Anyway, looks like about 3k/character level per quest and selling essences definitely works at 400 per essence buy outs.

I have slightly lower rate for quest, and never get from any quest money amount from vendors within range 500-750k, as for auctioning. 8)

[Stoner81]

That's a nice gesture.

My only question is that what level is their guild? Coz the plat ship below level 70 is only 360K plat. Below 40 is only 50K and not many room for amenities on them.

I think Stoner just sorted the whole thing out...

Level 49 if I remember correctly.

Stoner81.

[Uska]

Lily Petals are NOT one of the big sellers amongst collectables - 3 Lily Petals = One Cure Pot so these are pretty much worthless on the AH.

Collectables that do sell for good plat amounts on the AH are:

1) Medium Eberron Dragonshards - You should be able to put these up for 40k bid, 75k buyout and have them sell within 3 days {usually much faster} - if you've got 3 of them then put them up at 3 for 200k buyout to guarantee a quick sale.

2) Lightning-Split Soarwood - Extraordinarily Rare and part of the requirement for a weapon buff these will sell for 100k buyout IF you can find one in the first place.

3) Fragrant Drowshoods - The mushroom nodes in Tangleroot and Phiarlan Carnival are great for dropping these and they sell for 25k each.

4) Small Eberron Dragonshard - Much more common than Mediums but still sell for 35k each or 100k for 3.

5) Vials of Pure Water and Deadly Feverblanch - Quite common drops so tend to sell for about 1k each - Stack em up in 6 and 12 to sell them.

6) Silver Flame Hymnals - Unsteady sellers but when they do sell you should be able to get 5-10k per.

there are other sellable collectables but the above are the ones that are most likely to sell and the prices they usually will sell for.

Another good way to earn Plat {And Astral Shards if you can use the Astral Shard House} is to farm 3 Barrel Cove Slayer for Tiefling Assassin's Blade and Chieftain's Spear- Both of these will sell on the ASAH for 50-100 Shards or on the Plat AH for whatever you want to put them up for, just remember the higher the price you charge the longer it will likely take to sell.
P.S. These are Bind on Equip items so if you want to sell them don't equip them!

good stuff