Blood Strenght Maximum Potential Healing

[GregorianPL]

I had an disscusion today in group... guy told me his friend heals for 1k with blood strenght i was like *** ?! how is it even possible basic healing from it is 20 ... ofc it heals with melee power and heal amp... for me that guy was telling fairytales but still.. im just curious how much you can heal with it ?

[ValariusK]

Well, it scales with Heal Amp. Let's say he has 3 Pally past lives, 20 from ship buff, 60 from gloves and 45 more from Mysterious cloak or bracers and say 40 more from human improved recovery. That's like 195 additional heal amp, so he's talking about 3x from the base value. Make that 4x, I forgot about all the heal amp in the barb cores (I'm assuming he's Ravager/Frenzied) 100 melee power is quite feasible for a barbarian, so double it again.
Seems likely he's getting about 160 or so a kill. Now, its quite possible he's also a divine crusader and getting another hit of on kill HP. It can really add up.

[GregorianPL]

yeah this value is possible, im currently having 313 heal amp and 216 melee power and i can heal for over 250 but from that what he said i would need to double my melee power nad heal amp or quad melee power or quad.... heal amp

[Eth]

A year ago I posted 261 MP on my barb, which was close to max. To lazy to research every single point, but roughly we can get 20 MP from arborea and more items with minor increases as of now.

But MP and HAmp scale identical for blood strength. So let's drop MP where we can pick up better heal amp instead. We would need to drop the frenzied berserker capstone (-10 MP) for the ravager one (+40 HAmp).
Let's also drop another 15 MP from FB tree (and also the MP from crazy strike) and go full out in OS cores for more HAmp.
...and let's also drop arborea since we can get 40 HAmp from scion of limbo occasionally, which is 20 more...
So let's say with a HAmp spec and the some new items we still have 230 MP now (probably generous).

Heal amp:
160 barb enhancements (31 OS + 41 Ravager leaves us with 8 AP for human)
20 human
30 paladin past lifes
45 Exceptional
50 Equipment
70 Competence
30 Enhancement
20 Guild
20 Twist
40 Scion of Limbo
---
485
(there's possibly 20 more in DC, but we would end up with less MP)


Max Blood Strength proc (on kill):
20 * 5.85 * 3.3 = 386.1


So, 1k is definitely not coming from blood strength.
Even a max proc from golem's heart wouldn't proc for 1k (702HP with the healing amp listed above).
It could also be that he confuses it with the no remorse proc if he runs in crusader,... but no, actually, that would require him to kill mobs that are CR165. We aren't quite there yet (unless I'm wrong and this scales with devotion?).

So, either there's some serious fightclub, or, what I consider to be the most likely case, that guy was talking out of his a**e. ;)

[Lonnbeimnech]

A year ago I posted 261 MP on my barb, which was close to max. To lazy to research every single point, but roughly we can get 20 MP from arborea and more items with minor increases as of now.

But MP and HAmp scale identical for blood strength. So let's drop MP where we can pick up better heal amp instead. We would need to drop the frenzied berserker capstone (-10 MP) for the ravager one (+40 HAmp).
Let's also drop another 15 MP from FB tree (and also the MP from crazy strike) and go full out in OS cores for more HAmp.
...and let's also drop arborea since we can get 40 HAmp from scion of limbo occasionally, which is 20 more...
So let's say with a HAmp spec and the some new items we still have 230 MP now (probably generous).

Heal amp:
160 barb enhancements (31 OS + 41 Ravager leaves us with 8 AP for human)
20 human
30 paladin past lifes
45 Exceptional
50 Equipment
70 Competence
30 Enhancement
20 Guild
20 Twist
40 Scion of Limbo
---
485
(there's possibly 20 more in DC, but we would end up with less MP)


Max Blood Strength proc (on kill):
20 * 5.85 * 3.3 = 386.1


So, 1k is definitely not coming from blood strength.
Even a max proc from golem's heart wouldn't proc for 1k (702HP with the healing amp listed above).
It could also be that he confuses it with the no remorse proc if he runs in crusader,... but no, actually, that would require him to kill mobs that are CR165. We aren't quite there yet (unless I'm wrong and this scales with devotion?).

So, either there's some serious fightclub, or, what I consider to be the most likely case, that guy was talking out of his a**e. ;)

He might have been talking about how in the game you usually fight bunches of trash at the same time, and if he kills a group of, lets say, 6 mobs with cleave great cleave, supreme cleave etc that it adds up to 1000 hp by the time 6 of them are dead.

[FuzzyDuck81]

Is it possible he's running in primal avatar & some healing is coming from autumn harvest?

[Eth]

Is it possible he's running in primal avatar & some healing is coming from autumn harvest?

200 * 5.85 = 1170
Works! :D
(at this point I'd question the build choices though)



He might have been talking about how in the game you usually fight bunches of trash at the same time, and if he kills a group of, lets say, 6 mobs with cleave great cleave, supreme cleave etc that it adds up to 1000 hp by the time 6 of them are dead.
Possibly.
Next time someone asks me what I'm hitting for on a hellball I'll say 400k... :P