Throw Your Weight Around

[Oxnardo]

A Throw Down Challenge issued to all you Dwarven CON Builds out there!!!

CON = 105

http://i.imgur.com/dYLVFt4.jpg

[unbongwah]

Okay, what am I forgetting?

20 base CON
+2 racial enhs
+4 capstone
+3 barb enhs (presuming 41 / 18 / 21 AP spread)
+7 lvl-ups
+7 tome
+15 item
+7 insight
+2 Profane
+2 Exceptional
+11 Rage
+6 ED pts
+5 Primal Scream
+2 shipbuff
+2 Yugo pot
95 CON

[Hobgoblin]

Okay, what am I forgetting?

20 base CON
+2 racial enhs
+4 capstone
+3 barb enhs (presuming 41 / 18 / 21 AP spread)
+7 lvl-ups
+7 tome
+15 item
+7 insight
+2 Profane
+2 Exceptional
+11 Rage
+6 ED pts
+5 Primal Scream
+2 shipbuff
+2 Yugo pot
95 CON
2 from bard?

6from blood rage?

Huse d pots?

[Vellrad]

Okay, what am I forgetting?

20 base CON
+2 racial enhs
+4 capstone
+3 barb enhs (presuming 41 / 18 / 21 AP spread)
+7 lvl-ups
+7 tome
+15 item
+7 insight
+2 Profane
+2 Exceptional
+11 Rage
+6 ED pts
+5 Primal Scream
+2 shipbuff
+2 Yugo pot
95 CON

What hobgoblin said, but:
+4 feats(21., 24., 27. and 30.- pick great con each time)
Also, we don't know if poster just made build with all con APs, forgoing better ehancements.
Also, LGS augment, +10 insight con for 20 seconds, 1/rest.

[Hobgoblin]

Also tensors

[Vellrad]

Also tensors

Tenser can be cast only before entering rage, and those icons loot to me like its too late for it to be possible.

[Qhualor]

He's double Madstoned too.

[Ligraph]

For the challenge, look here (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/461264-130-con) for 130 Con. It's not me, but it's still crazy high Con.

[Oxnardo]

Re: 126/130 CON. Wow!
I put down my Axe and bow to that! and TY for the Link.

The OP was just to have some fun and see what kind of CON Numbers other players are achieving.
I still consider this build "Playable" (i.e. did not take all FEATs in CON or excessively go after them in Enhancements).

I pulled a +15 CON Random Loot Item, a +6 Insight CON Random Loot Item, and Epic Litany (Finally) the other night.
So, that's what inspired me to see how high I could run the numbers up.

The bonuses are as follows (to the best of my recollection):

20 base CON
+2 racial enhs
+3 barb enhs (44/18/18 Split - Rav/FB/Dwarf - Although I personally prefer FB emphasis)
+7 lvl-ups
+7 tome
+15 item
+6 insight
+2 Profane
+1 Exceptional
+10 Mighty Rage
+3 Hardy Rage
+0 ED pts
+5 Primal Scream
+2 shipbuff
+2 Yugo pot
+8? Blood Rage
+8 Double Madstone
+0 Cookies

= 101 CON

I'm missing 4, Ugh, but that's the general gist. (Fortunately Dwarves are not known for their Math ability)
When I have more time I will try to find them.

With the exception of Yugo Pots (I don't like the -5% Attack Speed), Double Madstone (I usually only Single Madstone)
these are the Throw Your Weight Numbers that I "usually" run with for End Fights (Bloodrage Situational).

TY to all that have commented so far!

[lyrecono]

that's all nice and cutesy

However, i can't stop and think about the bonus to hit, bosses in the new update have a stupid high Armor Class
What's your bonus to hit?

Is it really wort it? discounting the 50 hp from furry, you only have a 180 to 200 hp more then my str barb
What kind of damage are you looking at?

[Vellrad]

that's all nice and cutesy

However, i can't stop and think about the bonus to hit, bosses in the new update have a stupid high Armor Class
What's your bonus to hit?

Is it really wort it? discounting the 50 hp from furry, you only have a 180 to 200 hp more then my str barb
What kind of damage are you looking at?

To hit bonus is not a big deal with +20 accuracy items, GH scrolls, flanking mobs, +10 str from rage etc.
Damage is behind str based barbs not because con achieved is lower than str, but because you don't have lvl18 and 20 frenzied cores which add a lot of damage, but you gain high DC VoT instead, which is great for trash but useless vs bosses that don't have reinforcements.

[Oxnardo]

To hit bonus is not a big deal with +20 accuracy items, GH scrolls, flanking mobs, +10 str from rage etc.
Damage is behind str based barbs not because con achieved is lower than str, but because you don't have lvl18 and 20 frenzied cores which add a lot of damage, but you gain high DC VoT instead, which is great for trash but useless vs bosses that don't have reinforcements.


I've never had an issue with "To-Hit". However, I've just now started playing LE Content. I don't foresee it to be an issue. Agree with Vellrad.

OK, I give. What is Vot?

Re: Is it really wort it? discounting the 50 hp from furry, you only have a 180 to 200 hp more then my str barb
What kind of damage are you looking at?

When it comes to hps, I am of the opinion that MORE (even a little bit) is ALWAYS better - assuming that you are not making a huge sacrifice somewhere else.
Incoming damage mitigation first (Displacement, Dodge, Blur, Resistance, etc......) - a wealth of hps second. As a Barb, I always seem to block most attacks with my face.

I think one of the biggest disadvantages of going CON based is the AP investment into the Racial Tree and the fact that you have to choose either Greataxe or Maul.
Everytime I respec my Class Tree there always seems to be a few nice enhancements that I have to leave on the table.

I'll be ETRing into a STR based Barb soon (first time in a long, long, time) so I am looking forward to experiencing the differences.

[lyrecono]

base damage of a 1000 per hit at least (might vary up per cleave) on the first number (no mortal fear), depending on mob prr and dr
fully buffed and blitzing, non crits, non held/tripped

i was more or less referring to the LE bosses, give m a try before you tr.

I don't use trash gear, the idea is insulting to me. (so no 20 accuracy)

I made no sacrifices on hp, a 18 starter con and +7 tome is all i spend on it (besides items), no points on level up

What i was referring to is that you have to spend a tremendous amount of points for a few points of con while spending those points on the cores would have netted you almost the same amount of hp and more dps (so no dwarven trade offs)