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Knobull
12-15-2015, 03:03 PM
Laurel Helix (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Laurel_Helix). Anybody get one yet? If so, how many runs did it take?

Running the quest solo heroic hard at level. Trying to get one for my wiz character, he ransacked the chest, got two useless Docents of Insight (destroyed both) and a Dynamistic Quiver (banked as it might be useful sometime). This was in the first four runs of the quest, in the subsequent five runs no named items dropped.

So, since the items are bound to account, I started a new iconic shadar kai rogue character, and ran the quest nine times (HH), no named items dropped at all. (Is chest ransack account wide?).

So today I will create a new character, perhaps a purple fighter thingy and run the quest nine more times. I've got the quest run time down to under 12 minutes now. :)

No need to rehash the bad-luck/rng thing. Perfectly aware I could run it 1x10^16 times and never get the item, but just curious if anyone has got one yet, and also starting to wonder if chest ransack (at least for named loot) is account-wide?

Ebforest60
12-15-2015, 03:08 PM
I got one on my 2nd run, different characters for each run. I wasn't hunting for it, just got lucky.

Coyopa
12-15-2015, 03:10 PM
Laurel Helix (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Laurel_Helix). Anybody get one yet? If so, how many runs did it take?

Running the quest solo heroic hard at level. Trying to get one for my wiz character, he ransacked the chest, got two useless Docents of Insight (destroyed both) and a Dynamistic Quiver (banked as it might be useful sometime). This was in the first four runs of the quest, in the subsequent five runs no named items dropped.

So, since the items are bound to account, I started a new iconic shadar kai rogue character, and ran the quest nine times (HH), no named items dropped at all. (Is chest ransack account wide?).

So today I will create a new character, perhaps a purple fighter thingy and run the quest nine more times. I've got the quest run time down to under 12 minutes now. :)

No need to rehash the bad-luck/rng thing. Perfectly aware I could run it 1x10^16 times and never get the item, but just curious if anyone has got one yet, and also starting to wonder if chest ransack (at least for named loot) is account-wide?

Chest ransack is not account wide. I got an epic Laurel Helix in two different runs. I kept the first and gave the second away. I need an epic Dynamistic Quiver, still. I feel your pain.

Knobull
12-15-2015, 03:13 PM
I got one on my 2nd run, different characters for each run. I wasn't hunting for it, just got lucky.

Thanks, good to know it is dropping. Gonna start a new character and try another nine runs.

Anyone know if I use the free heart to reincarnate a PDK at level 1 to a ranger, do you still get the iconic XP and items?

Silverleafeon
12-15-2015, 03:13 PM
Got both rings, tended to run on EE using Earthquake to clear the way.
Not sure how many runs or which ring I got 1st, but maybe 2 dozen runs or so on this quest.
Just having fun with friends.

Atremus
12-15-2015, 03:16 PM
Pulled the Heroic version while helping someone farm a quiver. Just keep running the quest or post for help. More hands in the chest can really speed up farming.

Knobull
12-15-2015, 03:16 PM
Chest ransack is not account wide.

Good to know, thanks!


Got both rings, tended to run on EE using Earthquake to clear the way.
Not sure how many runs or which ring I got 1st, but maybe 2 dozen runs or so on this quest.
Just having fun with friends.

2 dozen runs huh? Not so bad. I'm only 18 in so far. But HH vs EE may be another whole kettle of fish. Gonna run nine more and see how I do. Wish me luck!

Coyopa
12-15-2015, 03:31 PM
Good to know, thanks!



2 dozen runs huh? Not so bad. I'm only 18 in so far. But HH vs EE may be another whole kettle of fish. Gonna run nine more and see how I do. Wish me luck!

I suppose I should consider getting the heroic version of this ring for the character currently using the epic version. I'm going to end up TR'ing him again in the near future anyway.

slarden
12-15-2015, 03:31 PM
Chest ransack is not account wide. I got an epic Laurel Helix in two different runs. I kept the first and gave the second away. I need an epic Dynamistic Quiver, still. I feel your pain.

I think the quiver drops alot less than the rings.

To answer the OP question, the drop rates for the rings are really good in my opinion. The quiver drop rate is maybe 1/3 if that - could just be the luck my group had but it seems to drop alot less on my runs.

The +3 mythics are definitely very rare even on EE. I've never seen a quiver with a mythic bonus on it.

Livmo
12-15-2015, 03:37 PM
I've found the drops to be mo betta on HE and EE. Have several sets of heroic and epic rings. I ran elites to get them faster. Got a few quivers that way as well (HE and EE).

Atremus
12-15-2015, 03:39 PM
I think the quiver drops alot less than the rings.

To answer the OP question, the drop rates for the rings are really good in my opinion. The quiver drop rate is maybe 1/3 if that - could just be the luck my group had but it seems to drop alot less on my runs.

The +3 mythics are definitely very rare even on EE. I've never seen a quiver with a mythic bonus on it.


The Quiver is a very, very stingy drop. It's hidden under a secret compartment inside the chest that leads to the Batcave in Gothem. Only then, can you pull it.

Mithis
12-15-2015, 03:55 PM
I have been running G&B off and on since it came out on 4 different characters on EN, EH, or EE depending on the strength of the character, group etc.

I would say I have done 40-50 pulls on the end chest and have yet to see a Laurel Helix or Docent of Insight. I have pulled one quiver and two Ivy Helix though.

Jasparion
12-15-2015, 04:50 PM
Chest ransack is not account wide. I got an epic Laurel Helix in two different runs. I kept the first and gave the second away. I need an epic Dynamistic Quiver, still. I feel your pain.

In over 100 equivalent runs (5 of us doing it more than 20 times) we have seen 1 quiver drop. Ive seen a few of the Laurel Helix and the other one drops constantly.

Would be interesting to know if it is the same drop rate for all and just some fun RNG...

Livmo
12-15-2015, 05:56 PM
In over 100 equivalent runs (5 of us doing it more than 20 times) we have seen 1 quiver drop. Ive seen a few of the Laurel Helix and the other one drops constantly.

Would be interesting to know if it is the same drop rate for all and just some fun RNG...

I have 3 sets of epic rings and 1 set of heroic rings, plus one unpaired epic ring. I got 3 quivers, Epic Mythic, Epic, and Heroic. I've done about 100 runs grand total. I've passed several rings and 2 quivers (1 epic and 1 heroic).

I haven't seen the docent yet. I want to get one of each (heroic and epic) for my arty dog.

Jasparion
12-15-2015, 06:06 PM
I have 3 sets of epic rings and 1 set of heroic rings, plus one unpaired epic ring. I got 3 quivers, Epic Mythic, Epic, and Heroic. I've done about 100 runs grand total. I've passed several rings and 2 quivers (1 epic and 1 heroic).

I haven't seen the docent yet. I want to get one of each (heroic and epic) for my arty dog.

Sounds like RNG then. I have a couple of the heroic docents and one epic docent. Ive also vendored a couple that no-one wanted.

Livmo
12-15-2015, 06:10 PM
Sounds like RNG then. I have a couple of the heroic docents and one epic docent. Ive also vendored a couple that no-one wanted.

I'm bummed, although I would more than likely not use them, I have all the named/major docents for my arty dog in my collection, well except the heroic and epic version of this one.

I doubt I'll go WF/BF on Livmo, but if I do, I want all the docents for that as well. I like that they are BtA and could move the docent to my BF arty if the need arose.

I might do some runs this weekend to see if I can pull the epic docent.

Knobull
12-15-2015, 08:00 PM
The loot gods are fickle... 2nd quiver... still no ring. :confused:

http://i.imgur.com/IW5bIYX.jpg

Loromir
12-15-2015, 09:26 PM
Laurel Helix (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Laurel_Helix). Anybody get one yet? If so, how many runs did it take?

Running the quest solo heroic hard at level. Trying to get one for my wiz character, he ransacked the chest, got two useless Docents of Insight (destroyed both) and a Dynamistic Quiver (banked as it might be useful sometime). This was in the first four runs of the quest, in the subsequent five runs no named items dropped.

So, since the items are bound to account, I started a new iconic shadar kai rogue character, and ran the quest nine times (HH), no named items dropped at all. (Is chest ransack account wide?).

So today I will create a new character, perhaps a purple fighter thingy and run the quest nine more times. I've got the quest run time down to under 12 minutes now. :)

No need to rehash the bad-luck/rng thing. Perfectly aware I could run it 1x10^16 times and never get the item, but just curious if anyone has got one yet, and also starting to wonder if chest ransack (at least for named loot) is account-wide?

First Run...It's quite a nice item.

Marshal_Lannes
12-15-2015, 09:27 PM
50 plus runs in epics, several Ivy rings, a couple docents. No Laurel or quiver.

janave
12-16-2015, 01:56 AM
I generally pulled several of everything before the quiver dropped.

I think the drop rates favor the docent way too much, then maybe the ivy ring, ..laurel and quiver being the least likely to drop, with the quiver possibly being the rarest of all.

blerkington
12-16-2015, 02:07 AM
I've never seen a quiver with a mythic bonus on it.


Sorry, but quivers do not have the chance to appear with Mythic bonuses attached.

Hi,

Apparently there's no mythic version of the dynamistic quiver.

I'd agree that the quiver seems rarer than the rings. Plus people seem far less likely to give a quiver away.

Thanks.

Livmo
12-16-2015, 09:47 AM
Hi,

Apparently there's no mythic version of the dynamistic quiver.

I'd agree that the quiver seems rarer than the rings. Plus people seem far less likely to give a quiver away.

Thanks.

Bummer I went back thru and checked and none of my quivers are mythic.

However, I go have the mythic repeater to use when I'm high enough level. Would be nice if there was a mythic quiver to go with it.

Also, I finally pulled the docent (non-mythic) last night on my 2nd run. Woot!


http://i.imgur.com/3Xpx7gG.jpg

Livmo
12-16-2015, 09:54 AM
This is probably a sexier screen shot. I'm using all the other items, or they are on other toons. In one of the ring sets below, both rings are mythic. I'm saving all these for Livmo to pick and choose from once I get back up there in levels (mythic rings, quiver, repeater and boots).


http://i.imgur.com/akuJ1pk.jpg

Paleus
12-16-2015, 10:18 AM
Was recently farming this on epic and got two quivers while trying to get a ring to drop (stopped after getting one). Not sure how many runs, but based on my anecdotal evidence I'll just go ahead and claim that the ring has half the drop rate as the quiver....wait, why you all looking at me like that? Isn't that how statistics works? It's not, hmmm.

Hafeal
12-16-2015, 10:23 AM
This is one quest chain where my RNG luck, apparently, has been pretty good. Wihtout farming, simply running from time to time, I have pulled all the items - just passed the Fatal Flaw to a guildmate last time in.

I have pulled 2 or 3 Helix, including a +3 Mythic, much to the chagrin of a particular guildmate.

That being said, I can't pull raid loot for my life.

:D

Miow
12-16-2015, 10:51 AM
Chest ransack is not account wide. I got an epic Laurel Helix in two different runs. I kept the first and gave the second away. I need an epic Dynamistic Quiver, still. I feel your pain.

Same, i've opened over 100 plus chests so far on Heroic and Epic all i keep getting are those damed Helix...i trying to get the Quiver...sigh.

Hephaistor
12-17-2015, 08:01 AM
The drop chances of this chain seem to be ok, I saw always at least one named item when running the chain on hard or elite in a group. If I had to guess I would say 7% on hard 10% on elite to get an named item in the chest.

Maquist
12-17-2015, 09:01 AM
http://i.imgur.com/3Xpx7gG.jpg


I've found my new farming target... That looks like it would be very nice for a rogue mechanic.

Also, after long last, I finally pulled an epic Laurel Helix yesterday. I've been trying to farm it on and off for several weeks. I still have not pulled the quiver, nor Return to Sender in the Tavern Brawl quest.

Coyopa
12-17-2015, 09:09 AM
I've found my new farming target... That looks like it would be very nice for a rogue mechanic.

Also, after long last, I finally pulled an epic Laurel Helix yesterday. I've been trying to farm it on and off for several weeks. I still have not pulled the quiver, nor Return to Sender in the Tavern Brawl quest.

Return to Sender is pretty underwhelming right now since it doesn't work if you have Improved Precise Shot turned on. See also https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/468765-Interesting-bug-with-Epic-Return-to-Sender

kelly171717
12-17-2015, 09:19 AM
i ve pulled everything from the pack at least once on heroic and epic i have also 3 epic quivers but no mythic.the item i have gotten the most is the docent the item ive gotten the least is the orb one of each on heroic and epic. i have gotten at least 10 rings of each on heroic and epic but i do run all the quests to ransack every week on my main.

Coyopa
12-17-2015, 09:25 AM
i ve pulled everything from the pack at least once on heroic and epic i have also 3 epic quivers but no mythic.the item i have gotten the most is the docent the item ive gotten the least is the orb one of each on heroic and epic. i have gotten at least 10 rings of each on heroic and epic but i do run all the quests to ransack every week on my main.

Since the quiver doesn't have a mythic variety, the bolded part would be the expected outcome.

kelly171717
12-17-2015, 09:27 AM
Thank you i did not know that there was no mythic version yeah i guess thats why i havent pulled one lol good catch

Knobull
12-18-2015, 11:36 AM
Just got a third quiver. Third! Still no ring. :(

knobaroo
12-18-2015, 12:13 PM
I pulled one first run! (I am never ever that lucky) I was helping a guildie try for one.... so I gave it away. Still have not managed another. :( (no good deed go's unpunished)

Knobull
12-18-2015, 03:40 PM
Just got a fourth quiver. Second one today. On the bright side I can now carry 60000 arrows. You know, just in case. ;)

iamjavs
12-18-2015, 04:20 PM
Could be just me but I like stuff not dropping all the time. It gives my character goals to shoot for. I feel you though. I've been running with my guilty trying to get the epic quiver. It dropped for me but he is having no luck