Compilation of visible Raid Boss HP

[Eth]

I started to collect some screenshots of raid bosses which HP can be unlocked through the MM (maybe I'm bored).
Anyway here they are for the curious.
If you have any bosses I did not unlock yet, feel free to post them here. :)

To Do:
- Xy'zzy (Hound of Xoriat)
- Warforged Titan (The Titan Awakes)
- Titan Mk II + Titan Mk III (The Master Artificer)

Thanks to Atheok for providing Abbots HP, I missed out on those lich kills during marbar. ;)



Velah (EE VoN 6):
http://i.imgur.com/sSks0kz.jpg


Nevalarich (EE Fire on Thundr Peaks):
http://i.imgur.com/VmCWTSo.jpg


Thraxata (EE Fire on Thundr Peaks):
http://i.imgur.com/RV1lN3z.jpg


Aurgloroasa (EE Temple of the Deathwyyrm):
http://i.imgur.com/5cQXs4f.jpg


The Truthful One (EE Fall of Truth):
http://i.imgur.com/pMLFdoz.jpg


The Lord of Blades (EE Lord of Blades):
http://i.imgur.com/oq6eEKP.jpg


Conjoined Abishai Devastator (EE Chronoscope):
http://i.imgur.com/p3KojSG.jpg


Suulomades (Elite Vision of Destruction):
http://i.imgur.com/av9cTvW.jpg


Suulomades (Elite Tower of Despair):
http://i.imgur.com/JAIRLO8.jpg


The Black Abbot (Elite Ascension Chamber):
http://i.imgur.com/CAoo0oR.jpg


The Black Abbot (EE Mark of Death):
http://i.imgur.com/wev4QpN.jpg

[HernandoCortez]

Awesome, thank you.

[Holymunchkin]

amazing

[the_one_dwarfforged]

lailat and eudoxia not visible?

you should also compile a list of their forts and drs if youre that bored :) i think the wiki is a bit out of date.

[janave]

good stuff

[moomooprincess]

Thank you for this

Text Version

EPIC ELITE
Velah CR 54 742,932
Nevalarich CR 61 727,760
Thraxata CR 61 703,822
Aurgolroasa CR 63 980,878
Truthful One Cr 69 916,472
Lord of Blades CR 58 859,899
Conjoined Abishai Devastator CR 51 675,408
Ethrayne 1,411

Elite
VoD Suolomades CR 38 550,646
ToD Suolomades CR 38 440,646
AC Black Abbot CR 29 300,000
MoD Black Abbot CR 59 402,557

[Eth]

lailat and eudoxia not visible?
Since they don't have MM entries, no.



you should also compile a list of their forts and drs if youre that bored :) i think the wiki is a bit out of date.
DRs on the wiki are still correct as far as I can tell.
There are some bosses with PRR/MRR which might be confusing sometimes, since it shows up in the same color as non-broken DR.



By the way does anyone know when Peaks/Deathwyrm bosses got nerfed?

Thraxata and Nevlarich used to be CR85.
Aurgloroasa used to be CR88.

I find it a bit weird that the TO is the dragon with the most HP now.

[Eth]

...and abbot used to be CR83. What the heck?

[Holymunchkin]

...and abbot used to be CR83. What the heck?

they nerfed the raid

deathknights don't hit hard anymore
is a joke with a decent group on ee

don't know what happened to beholder saves

[Eth]

they nerfed the raid

deathknights don't hit hard anymore
is a joke with a decent group on ee

don't know what happened to beholder saves

Shows that I haven't run it in ages.

Why nerf those 3 raids though? Seems like they didn't touch any other raids except Wyrm/Peaks/MoD.
We got more and more power since they came out and now they tune them down? Makes no sense to me.

[the_one_dwarfforged]

DRs on the wiki are still correct as far as I can tell.
There are some bosses with PRR/MRR which might be confusing sometimes, since it shows up in the same color as non-broken DR.


By the way does anyone know when Peaks/Deathwyrm bosses got nerfed?

i was looking on the wiki for the fort of some bosses and didnt see it. eudoxia for example has no stat info listed at all.


honestly i never noticed that they were nerfed, not that i knew the cr of any boss in the first place. i dont think the bosses in those raids having less hp really matters though, it just takes slightly less time to make their hp 0. assuming their damage stayed the same, i say meh whatever. the challenge of completing them when they were hard(er) back when they came out has been achieved, everyone has their loot already...ee runs are just for favor...

[Eth]

honestly i never noticed that they were nerfed, not that i knew the cr of any boss in the first place. i dont think the bosses in those raids having less hp really matters though, it just takes slightly less time to make their hp 0. assuming their damage stayed the same, i say meh whatever. the challenge of completing them when they were hard(er) back when they came out has been achieved, everyone has their loot already...ee runs are just for favor...

We had updates in the past that made the exact opposite - buff bosses. U11 I think buffed all raid bosses by a huge amount.

HP do matter. Since beating the abbot down advances/prolonges the most difficult phases of the raid. A good party can deal with infernos, a bad party may not and just pull through nonetheless because he never gets one off.

For other bosses more HP cut deeper into the ressource management (SP, Action Boosts, Bursts). But you're right that the amount of HP we talk about here doesn't matter much. If they truly wanted to make those more difficult we would need more than an adjustment in the +-300k range. One million HP is a joke for any decent raid group already. Let alone 500k.
Give the abbot 10 million HP and completing it would actually be an effort (same with the dragons).

[the_one_dwarfforged]

We had updates in the past that made the exact opposite - buff bosses. U11 I think buffed all raid bosses by a huge amount.

HP do matter. Since beating the abbot down advances/prolonges the most difficult phases of the raid. A good party can deal with infernos, a bad party may not and just pull through nonetheless because he never gets one off.

For other bosses more HP cut deeper into the ressource management (SP, Action Boosts, Bursts). But you're right that the amount of HP we talk about here doesn't matter much. If they truly wanted to make those more difficult we would need more than an adjustment in the +-300k range. One million HP is a joke for any decent raid group already. Let alone 500k.
Give the abbot 10 million HP and completing it would actually be an effort (same with the dragons).

i agree in principle about the infernos and resource management, but the way i see it, either you can complete it in the first place, or you cant and the slightly lower hp wont matter.

it doesnt take a good party to laugh off inferno, it only takes an average party. and if there is a party that is bad but just good enough where the abbot having 300k less hp means they avoid an inferno which would otherwise wipe them or make the raid unrecoverable, i expect they are having problems elsewhere and cant complete a raid like mod where there is pressure in various ways simultaneously. especially on ee compared to en, when the incoming damage is higher. im not saying i approve of nerfing raids, but its not like the challenge is really there anymore, except on lamma...by the time raids hit live many people already have at least a rough idea of how to run them. and it seems like turbine has given up all hope of making an real difficulty in all existing content, and is putting all their eggs into the reaper basket, which i think is pretty obviously a massive mistake given their track record, but i just dont care about anything in this game enough anymore to fret over it. except the fighter pass. i am going to be on that like white on rice.



also it occurs to me, did you forget horoth? youre standing next to him in the sully tod pic but no mention of horoths hp. or does he not count as a raid boss in your opinion?

[Eth]

also it occurs to me, did you forget horoth? youre standing next to him in the sully tod pic but no mention of horoths hp. or does he not count as a raid boss in your opinion?

Pit fiends aren't in the MM either. ;)
Otherwise Arraetrikos would be on the list aswell.

[Raezar]

Nice thread Eth :)

[Holymunchkin]

Shows that I haven't run it in ages.

Why nerf those 3 raids though? Seems like they didn't touch any other raids except Wyrm/Peaks/MoD.
We got more and more power since they came out and now they tune them down? Makes no sense to me.

It happened after Varg mentioned auto-scaling was altered. I believe it was by accident. There wasn't enough community feedback for them to notice (?). Am not sure.