Best crafted shuriken option for devil(s)???

[Mithis]

Hey all,
I am looking at crafting a DR breaker for my shuriken thrower build and I want to be sure I do this right.

I want the weapon specifically for Abishai but would like it to be more broadly useful against all devils (and possibly other mobs).

I am planning a +5 Holy burst of Evil Outsider Bane but my uncertainty lays with the base shuriken material type.

I have both a silver and a flametouched iron shuriken available to craft on and would like some thoughts on which would be better to use.

Thanks.

[Trillea]

Silver - by itself - will not break Abishai DR. If you are looking to break the most DR I would go with Flametouched Iron.

Ed - since you are planning on Holy anyway, that makes the silver better but flametouched iron would let you go with another prefix. I believe the best all around devil/demon DR breaker would be the flametouched iron with +5, metalline, greater evil outsider bane. Per the Cannith Crafting planner:

Highest Arcane shard level is 70
Highest Divine shard level is 100
Highest Any shard level is 60

Total Item Potential Required: 11 (Min Level on item will be 18)

You will have to make:
Shard of [+5] Enhancement Bonus
Shard of Greater Evil Outsider Bane
Shard of Metalline
Shard of Potential (+6 Maximum Enhancement)
Shard of Potential (+7 Maximum Enhancement)
Shard of Potential (+8 Maximum Enhancement)
Shard of Potential (+9 Maximum Enhancement)
Shard of Potential (+10 Maximum Enhancement)
Shard of Potential (+11 Maximum Enhancement)

Total Required Ingredients:
15 Greater Arcane Essence
70 Lesser Arcane Essence
25 Siberys
1 +5 Spirit
21 Greater Good Essence
70 Lesser Good Essence
7 Purified Eberron Dragonshard Fragments
1 Demons Blood
1 Large Devil Scales
21 Greater Chaos Essence
70 Lesser Chaos Essence
3 Blessed Candle
1025 Lesser Any Essence (or Crude Vials)

Total Greater Essences: 304 (247 broken down to Lessers)

[Mithis]

I had not considered metalline...

I am not quite able to craft a metalline shard but with a little effort I can get there.

Thanks for the help.

[Enoach]

Hey all,
I am looking at crafting a DR breaker for my shuriken thrower build and I want to be sure I do this right.

I want the weapon specifically for Abishai but would like it to be more broadly useful against all devils (and possibly other mobs).

I am planning a +5 Holy burst of Evil Outsider Bane but my uncertainty lays with the base shuriken material type.

I have both a silver and a flametouched iron shuriken available to craft on and would like some thoughts on which would be better to use.

Thanks.

If a metal DR is needed for Devil's it will usually be Silver that is needed.

Things known about Devils; Silver and Good generally covers DR. Also they are Lawful and Evil

Flametouched Iron gives you the ability to bypass Good DR.

Abishai only need to bypass Good DR. For general Devil DR breaking you want Silver + Good

So crafting a Silver Holy+Greater [Evil/Lawful] Outsider

Now personally I would go with the Lawful Outsider Bane over Evil as it would cover Archons and Inevitable as well.

[Xahtep]

Hey all,
I am looking at crafting a DR breaker for my shuriken thrower build and I want to be sure I do this right.

I want the weapon specifically for Abishai but would like it to be more broadly useful against all devils (and possibly other mobs).

I am planning a +5 Holy burst of Evil Outsider Bane but my uncertainty lays with the base shuriken material type.

I have both a silver and a flametouched iron shuriken available to craft on and would like some thoughts on which would be better to use.

Thanks.


I like +X Holy (burst) Silver or cold iron [weapons]of (greater) Evil outsider bane with a red slot to add silver or cold iron, whatever is needed,so it covers both devil and demons. the burst/ greater bane version is ml 20 afaik.

[Enderoc]

If you are going metalline, than adamantine I think would be better as I am almost betting it is of a higher hardness and durability. Thing is...you can't craft throwing weapons....you are going to have to make wraps, or bow if you took zen archery.

[EllisDee37]

If you are going metalline, than adamantine I think would be better as I am almost betting it is of a higher hardness and durability.Metalline doesn't bypass good; that's what the flametouched iron is for.


Thing is...you can't craft throwing weapons....Yes you can.


I would definitely make:

+5 Metalline Flametouched Iron of Greater Evil Outsider Bane

Works great on devils, demons, and even xoriat demons, which are evil outsiders with DR/Byeshk.

Then an optional archon beater:

+5 Unholy Cold Iron of Greater Chaotic Outsider Bane

This one is only +10 enchantment level, sadly, meaning it's only paragon (1.5[W]) instead of epic (2[W]). To get it up to epic, look for any red slot shuriken to craft, the slot cold iron in the red. That gets you up to +12.

[Livmo]

Hey all,
I am looking at crafting a DR breaker for my shuriken thrower build and I want to be sure I do this right.

I want the weapon specifically for Abishai but would like it to be more broadly useful against all devils (and possibly other mobs).

I am planning a +5 Holy burst of Evil Outsider Bane but my uncertainty lays with the base shuriken material type.

I have both a silver and a flametouched iron shuriken available to craft on and would like some thoughts on which would be better to use.

Thanks.

I haven't tried TF Shuriken yet, but for high level stuff I like to make Thunderforgered weapon and slot of Ruby of Good into it. I do this so I can cast a weapon buff like Deadly Weapons and still have the DR breaking. TF weapons come with Cold Iron and Silver already on them.

http://ddowiki.com/images/Thunder-Forged_Alloy_Shuriken.png

[Gljosh]

I haven't tried TF Shuriken yet, but for high level stuff I like to make Thunderforgered weapon and slot of Ruby of Good into it. I do this so I can cast a weapon buff like Deadly Weapons and still have the DR breaking. TF weapons come with Cold Iron and Silver already on them.

http://ddowiki.com/images/Thunder-Forged_Alloy_Shuriken.png

This must be used by Dwarves. Who else would call a crossbow (read the item description) a shuriken.

[Dragavon]

Silver - by itself - will not break Abishai DR. If you are looking to break the most DR I would go with Flametouched Iron.


Flametouched iron is bad advice against devils. Flametouched iron has the good property, so breaks DR /good.

Weak devils have DR /good or silver, powerful devils have DR /good AND silver.

So for weak devils you need a weapon with either good or silver, for powerful weapon you need both.

The best weapon you can craft for use against devils is a holy burst silver weapon of greater evil outsider bane.

[noinfo]

Hey all,
I am looking at crafting a DR breaker for my shuriken thrower build and I want to be sure I do this right.

I want the weapon specifically for Abishai but would like it to be more broadly useful against all devils (and possibly other mobs).

I am planning a +5 Holy burst of Evil Outsider Bane but my uncertainty lays with the base shuriken material type.

I have both a silver and a flametouched iron shuriken available to craft on and would like some thoughts on which would be better to use.

Thanks.

Best dips vs devils inch bosses holy burst of glob. Breaks good and silver.

Most versatile flame touch metallise of glob. Pretty much all evil outsiders.

[RD2play]

What I made is:

Cold Iron blank with red slot, add Holy Burst +5 GEOB slot vampire augment and add stone of change force or force crit ritual

Breaks DR/ Cold Iron, Silver, Good, Magic = useful against Devils and Daemons. ml20

[EllisDee37]

What I made is:

Cold Iron blank with red slot, add Holy Burst +5 GEOB slot vampire augment and add stone of change force or force crit ritual

Breaks DR/ Cold Iron, Silver, Good, Magic = useful against Devils and Daemons. ml20That's an excellent weapon.

The only thing that would bug me is that it wouldn't break Xoriat Render DR in the madness quests or HoX.

[RD2play]

That's an excellent weapon.

The only thing that would bug me is that it wouldn't break Xoriat Render DR in the madness quests or HoX.

True, for those I would make a Byersk/flametouched axio burst +5 GCOB and slot Good/byersk, axio breaks lawful DR so it will be good against the hounds and mindflayers. or also possible is Byersk Holy (B) +5 GCOB and slot lawful the 2nd option is more generally useful because of the holy dmg vs the axio dmg in the first one. I try to keep this weapon 14/16 for heroics because that's where you will encounter them.