Khordd_
11-05-2015, 10:59 AM
I was getting close to the end of my third life and i thought about making a TA build. Seeing the "standard" build from Andoris (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/459818-Centered-Thief-Acrobat) i started messing with it in the builder to make some modifications. I ended up finding Half-Orc pretty good for TA and i couldn't find any build using that race, so i started this post. Here are the specs for lvl 20:
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Khordd Headbasher
Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Orc Male
(2 Monk \ 18 Rogue)
Hit Points: 214
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 11
Reflex: 20
Will: 8
Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 16 16
Dexterity 18 23
Constitution 15 15
Intelligence 12 12
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 6 6
Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 6 19
Bluff -2 21
Concentration 2 2
Diplomacy -2 -2
Disable Device n/a 24
Haggle -2 -1
Heal -1 -1
Hide 4 25
Intimidate -2 -2
Jump 7 12
Listen -1 -1
Move Silently 4 25
Open Lock n/a 29
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 1 1
Search 3 24
Spellcraft 1 1
Spot 3 6
Swim 3 3
Tumble 6 15
Use Magic Device 0 21
Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
Level 2 (Rogue)
Level 3 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Level 4 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Riddle of Fire (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Staff Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Way of the Clever Monkey (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Control (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Stick Fighting (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Fast Movement (Rank 1)
Level 5 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Precision
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Quick Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Quick Strike (Rank 2)
Level 7 (Rogue)
Level 8 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Quick Strike (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
Level 10 (Rogue)
Level 11 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Shadow Dodge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Shadow Dodge (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Sweeping Strikes (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Sweeping Strikes (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Sweeping Strikes (Rank 3)
Level 12 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Crippling Strike
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Level 13 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Tumbler (Rank 1)
Level 14 (Rogue)
Level 15 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Adept of Forms
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Kip Up (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Shadow Dodge (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - No Mercy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - No Mercy (Rank 2)
Level 16 (Rogue)
Level 17 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - No Mercy (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Lunge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Lunge (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Lunge (Rank 3)
Level 18 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Defensive Roll
Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Specialization (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Spinning Staff Wall (Rank 1)
Level 19 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
Level 20 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Orcish Fury (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Orcish Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Stubborn (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Stubborn (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Extra Action Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Extra Action Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Orcish Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Great Weapon Aptitude (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Improved Power Attack (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Orcish Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Brutality (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Orcish Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Quick Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Quick Strike (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Quick Strike (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Cartwheel Charge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Improved Defensive Roll (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Improved Defensive Roll (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
The enhancements/feats might be out of order but in general i think they are correct. The skills might be way off since i've never done a rogue.
So Half-Orc gets many useful enhancements including Brutality (+20% damage to helpless opponents, giving a 50% total with TA?!) which would be great with Sweeping Strikes. Comparing to Human i lost 20 Healing Amp and 1 Dex but got +3 to hit (+4 from Orchish Weapon Training -1 Imp Power Att) and +7 damage (+6 from Orchish Weapon Training +1 Imp Power Att) with QS. I was thinking about running with the wind stance from Master of Forms, so 20% doublestrike from TA + 25% from quickstrike + 7,5% from wind stance + 3% Opportunist for a total 55,5%.
Thing i would like to know:
- Has anyone tested this with brutality? Is it worth it?
- Anyone knows the gear for TA by level? from 1 to 20
- Would i be squishy until i reach end gear? I have no wisdom so my AC will be pretty low i guess
Comments and ideas are welcome
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Khordd Headbasher
Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Orc Male
(2 Monk \ 18 Rogue)
Hit Points: 214
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 11
Reflex: 20
Will: 8
Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20)
Strength 16 16
Dexterity 18 23
Constitution 15 15
Intelligence 12 12
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 6 6
Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20)
Balance 6 19
Bluff -2 21
Concentration 2 2
Diplomacy -2 -2
Disable Device n/a 24
Haggle -2 -1
Heal -1 -1
Hide 4 25
Intimidate -2 -2
Jump 7 12
Listen -1 -1
Move Silently 4 25
Open Lock n/a 29
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 1 1
Search 3 24
Spellcraft 1 1
Spot 3 6
Swim 3 3
Tumble 6 15
Use Magic Device 0 21
Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
Level 2 (Rogue)
Level 3 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Level 4 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Riddle of Fire (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Staff Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Way of the Clever Monkey (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Control (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Stick Fighting (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Fast Movement (Rank 1)
Level 5 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Precision
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Quick Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Quick Strike (Rank 2)
Level 7 (Rogue)
Level 8 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Quick Strike (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
Level 10 (Rogue)
Level 11 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Shadow Dodge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Shadow Dodge (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Sweeping Strikes (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Sweeping Strikes (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Sweeping Strikes (Rank 3)
Level 12 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Crippling Strike
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Level 13 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Tumbler (Rank 1)
Level 14 (Rogue)
Level 15 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Adept of Forms
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Kip Up (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Shadow Dodge (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - No Mercy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - No Mercy (Rank 2)
Level 16 (Rogue)
Level 17 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - No Mercy (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Lunge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Lunge (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Lunge (Rank 3)
Level 18 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Defensive Roll
Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Specialization (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Spinning Staff Wall (Rank 1)
Level 19 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
Level 20 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Orcish Fury (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Orcish Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Stubborn (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Stubborn (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Extra Action Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Extra Action Boost (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Orcish Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Great Weapon Aptitude (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Improved Power Attack (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Orcish Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Brutality (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half-Orc - Orcish Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Quick Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Quick Strike (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Quick Strike (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Cartwheel Charge (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Improved Defensive Roll (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Improved Defensive Roll (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
The enhancements/feats might be out of order but in general i think they are correct. The skills might be way off since i've never done a rogue.
So Half-Orc gets many useful enhancements including Brutality (+20% damage to helpless opponents, giving a 50% total with TA?!) which would be great with Sweeping Strikes. Comparing to Human i lost 20 Healing Amp and 1 Dex but got +3 to hit (+4 from Orchish Weapon Training -1 Imp Power Att) and +7 damage (+6 from Orchish Weapon Training +1 Imp Power Att) with QS. I was thinking about running with the wind stance from Master of Forms, so 20% doublestrike from TA + 25% from quickstrike + 7,5% from wind stance + 3% Opportunist for a total 55,5%.
Thing i would like to know:
- Has anyone tested this with brutality? Is it worth it?
- Anyone knows the gear for TA by level? from 1 to 20
- Would i be squishy until i reach end gear? I have no wisdom so my AC will be pretty low i guess
Comments and ideas are welcome