Destinies for Rangers

[patang01]

Here are some suggestions for destinies for a tempest deepwood sniper build



Well that was awfully dumb of me

https://sockofstuffing.wordpress.com/2015/10/05/ranger-destinies/

[Coyopa]

That's a nice login form you got there! :D

[Soleran100]

Recently I tr'd my strength based heavy armor ranger (12ranger/5rogue/3paladin) into a tempest type light armor dex build.

Picking destinies with the strength build was easy alot of synergy with strength to fill in the trees.

With the dex ranger the only tree that I see which supports "dex" as a melee stat is shadowdancer. Which might turn out to be a really fun destiny who knows.

But to answer your question about the destinies, I love Divine Crusader for its burst and healing. If you twf you might look to try and fit in a twist for balanced attacks which might work really well in fury also with adrenaline knockdowns.

So for me I'm going to look to play around with shadowdancer and fury with adrenaline knockdowns and balanced attack when I hit 20:)

By the way my style is similar to yours in that I plan to use manyshot to keep it on cd and twf the rest of the time while wearing light armor.

[ValariusK]

Anyone ever try Primal on a mostly melee ranger?
I can see it has good base melee and ranged power (24 each), and there's the tree thing. Also you don't need to twist balanced attacks or cocoon, you can just take it.

[patang01]

Anyone ever try Primal on a mostly melee ranger?
I can see it has good base melee and ranged power (24 each), and there's the tree thing. Also you don't need to twist balanced attacks or cocoon, you can just take it.

My understanding is that the tree is slow, so (without knowing) it might kill your doublestrike a lot.

[patang01]

Recently I tr'd my strength based heavy armor ranger (12ranger/5rogue/3paladin) into a tempest type light armor dex build.

Picking destinies with the strength build was easy alot of synergy with strength to fill in the trees.

With the dex ranger the only tree that I see which supports "dex" as a melee stat is shadowdancer. Which might turn out to be a really fun destiny who knows.

But to answer your question about the destinies, I love Divine Crusader for its burst and healing. If you twf you might look to try and fit in a twist for balanced attacks which might work really well in fury also with adrenaline knockdowns.

So for me I'm going to look to play around with shadowdancer and fury with adrenaline knockdowns and balanced attack when I hit 20:)

By the way my style is similar to yours in that I plan to use manyshot to keep it on cd and twf the rest of the time while wearing light armor.

I was thinking about going all dex via light weapons, but it's so hard to give up a good set of khopeshes. I'm currently running at about 52 in str thanks to the new U28 set bonuses and a little more in FotW. Of course I could max it even more, but I like the balance between dex, con and str providing around 1k HP right now, 70 in fortitude save and 60 something in reflex.

It could be better - going all dex would change that dynamic a lot but my hope is to untwist cocoon and the resist one and add FotW rage clickie and some additional dodge/reflex until I can start twisting in tier 4. I haven't played ranger in a while so unlike some of the other toons I still have lots to unlock.

But - I'm digging Divine Crusader. It allows the otherwise 'brittle' ranger to take advantage of good self healing and thanks to the expanded crit range and crit multiplier add a bunch of DPS.

[ValariusK]

My understanding is that the tree is slow, so (without knowing) it might kill your doublestrike a lot.

Yeah I'm not thinking mostly in terms of the tree---Tree is only good IMO if you have a lot of cleaves and tons of spirit generation capacity. I'm thinking more in terms of the flat 5% damage bonus (symmetric strikes), balanced attacks seeking balance cocoon, and the 24 MP it brings to the table.

[ValariusK]

I was thinking about going all dex via light weapons, but it's so hard to give up a good set of khopeshes. I'm currently running at about 52 in str thanks to the new U28 set bonuses and a little more in FotW. Of course I could max it even more, but I like the balance between dex, con and str providing around 1k HP right now, 70 in fortitude save and 60 something in reflex.

It could be better - going all dex would change that dynamic a lot but my hope is to untwist cocoon and the resist one and add FotW rage clickie and some additional dodge/reflex until I can start twisting in tier 4. I haven't played ranger in a while so unlike some of the other toons I still have lots to unlock.

But - I'm digging Divine Crusader. It allows the otherwise 'brittle' ranger to take advantage of good self healing and thanks to the expanded crit range and crit multiplier add a bunch of DPS.

Divine crusader just plain rocks. It is my favorite destiny because while not as strong offensively as LD, it has two huge virtues:
It supports a party like you wouldn't believe. When I run in DC, the death rate in EE pugs that I lead or join drops substantially. It provides a moderate heal to everyone everytime something dies and more healing when you drop consecration. The damage add from crusade is also huge considering it affects by 10% everyone who is fights mostly inside the flaming circle. The only reason I'm considering Primal is because I already have 7 Divine EPLs and only 4 Primal.
2nd virtue, almost forgot. DC gives you a way more relaxed play style than LD. In LD you have to run around like a crack fiend keeping stacks of blitz. In DC you don't have that constantly impelling you forward. Ranger has a very fast attack rate though, even faster than SWF (although the twf hit box is seriously annoying and swf's is seriously generous), so LD isn't that hard to sustain as a ranger.

[patang01]

Yeah I'm not thinking mostly in terms of the tree---Tree is only good IMO if you have a lot of cleaves and tons of spirit generation capacity. I'm thinking more in terms of the flat 5% damage bonus (symmetric strikes), balanced attacks seeking balance cocoon, and the 24 MP it brings to the table.

Sounds interesting. Let me know if you ever try it out.

[patang01]

Divine crusader just plain rocks. It is my favorite destiny because while not as strong offensively as LD, it has two huge virtues:
It supports a party like you wouldn't believe. When I run in DC, the death rate in EE pugs that I lead or join drops substantially. It provides a moderate heal to everyone everytime something dies and more healing when you drop consecration. The damage add from crusade is also huge considering it affects by 10% everyone who is fights mostly inside the flaming circle. The only reason I'm considering Primal is because I already have 7 Divine EPLs and only 4 Primal.
2nd virtue, almost forgot. DC gives you a way more relaxed play style than LD. In LD you have to run around like a crack fiend keeping stacks of blitz. In DC you don't have that constantly impelling you forward. Ranger has a very fast attack rate though, even faster than SWF (although the twf hit box is seriously annoying and swf's is seriously generous), so LD isn't that hard to sustain as a ranger.

I love DC with my vanguards and my Pally and I currently use it with my barbarian while doing the latest raid. It's superb. You're right about how it helps a group but it's also perhaps the most stable of all for solo play.

[Qhualor]

When I was on Lama and made my toon a pure Tempest, I found LD to not be a very good destiny for me. I'm not a fan of Blitz and not that talented to keep it up. Doesnt seem to work well with boss fights that actually last more than a minute. Plus I didn't take any cleave feats or any tactical feats. I'm leaning towards DC, but haven't had a chance to test it out yet. Note that I am saying LD isn't a good destiny for my ranger.

[patang01]

When I was on Lama and made my toon a pure Tempest, I found LD to not be a very good destiny for me. I'm not a fan of Blitz and not that talented to keep it up. Doesnt seem to work well with boss fights that actually last more than a minute. Plus I didn't take any cleave feats or any tactical feats. I'm leaning towards DC, but haven't had a chance to test it out yet. Note that I am saying LD isn't a good destiny for my ranger.

LD is good, but the ranger is somewhat frail - you'll take a bunch of damage. Worst when you get surrounded (HP will go down fast). On the plus side - it's not hard to keep blitz going and considering that manyarrow works with it, you can burst whenever it comes off cooldown and stack up again.

Again - biggest draw back is lack of healing. at least with FotW you can adrenaline knock down something if it gets too dangerous.

[Qhualor]

LD is good, but the ranger is somewhat frail - you'll take a bunch of damage. Worst when you get surrounded (HP will go down fast). On the plus side - it's not hard to keep blitz going and considering that manyarrow works with it, you can burst whenever it comes off cooldown and stack up again.

Again - biggest draw back is lack of healing. at least with FotW you can adrenaline knock down something if it gets too dangerous.

healing is actually not that hard to do. with quicken CSW, CMW for back up, heal scrolls for back up to the back up you should be fine even after all the layered defense. when I did ranger past lives on one of my characters, I didn't invest in better healing than what I could get from enhancements and feats. I just used CSW and twisted Cocoon. never touched CMW and rarely used heal scrolls.

[Sianys]

I liked Primal a lot for my dex pure Tempest - didn't bother with the Tree. Went straight up the Balance line to Nature's Fury, supplemented with a few ranks of Autumn Harvest, Spirit Boon, stuff like that.

However, I'm liking FotW as well - haven't capped it yet, but getting there. Taking advantage of Sense Weakness + Overwhelming Force, will be getting Fury Eternal because I get a decent number of crits to make it useful. Also have all three ranks of Fast Healing.

Between Fast Healing, and twisted Cocoon and Healing Spring, plus Devotion and the Heal Amp on Iron Mitts, I don't worry too much about healing. (Then again I don't do EE, so...)

When I'm ready for LD, I'll be focused on the Action Boosts in the lower tiers, maybe take one of the ability (Str/Con) boosts, then Volcano's Edge, Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical, etc. I'm sure I can make it work for my ranger. :D

[Vellrad]

Recently I tr'd my strength based heavy armor ranger (12ranger/5rogue/3paladin) into a tempest type light armor dex build.

Picking destinies with the strength build was easy alot of synergy with strength to fill in the trees.

With the dex ranger the only tree that I see which supports "dex" as a melee stat is shadowdancer. Which might turn out to be a really fun destiny who knows.

But to answer your question about the destinies, I love Divine Crusader for its burst and healing. If you twf you might look to try and fit in a twist for balanced attacks which might work really well in fury also with adrenaline knockdowns.

So for me I'm going to look to play around with shadowdancer and fury with adrenaline knockdowns and balanced attack when I hit 20:)

By the way my style is similar to yours in that I plan to use manyshot to keep it on cd and twf the rest of the time while wearing light armor.

Whut?
Putting ED points into str or dex is so big waste on melee, you're better with anything else in any non-caster tree.

[Soleran100]

Whut?
Putting ED points into str or dex is so big waste on melee, you're better with anything else in any non-caster tree.

You might be able to sell me on that EXCEPT dex is capped lower then str by a margin and if you can show me a better path I'd love to hear it rather then a bs snarky whut twitter type comment.

Also I did say running in fury is a big choice which of course has no dex.