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Hobgoblin
09-28-2015, 07:57 PM
I was very unhappy with my caster druid in epics, so i spent some plat and time on fixing him
I got him to level 28 and looking at ering him
This is not optimal at the moment, but i dont want to tr... yet
so halfelf needs to stay
first life is staying
i have looked at gingers druid build and it was most enlightening
Stats:
max wis - all levels here - +3 tome
max con - +2 tome
rest int - +4 tome
skills: heal concentrate umd spell power
so level order:
FEATS
1st:Maximize
2nd (druid): Wild Shape: Wolf
3rd: SF: Evocation)
5th (druid): Wild Shape: Bear
6th: Empower Spell
8th (druid): Wild Shape: Winter Wolf
9th: Quicken Spell
11th (druid): Wild Shape: Dire Bear
12th: Shield Mastery
13th (druid): Wild Shape: Fire Elemental
15th: Improved Shield Mastery
17th (druid): Wild Shape: Water Elemental
18th: Heighten Spell
21st: empower healing
24th: heavy armor - blue dragon
26th: (Epic Destiny Feat): cold spell power
27th: ? maybe great wisdom if im odd?
28th: (Epic Destiny Feat): ?
Gear - endgame- while im not opposed to raiding, im trying to get this guy up to where i feel comfortable raiding
Goggles: Shadowsight - ee version - have
Head: Halcyonia,- need, Epic Minos Legens- have
Neck: Sage's Locket - may go for the new lions neckless
Trinket: ?
Cloak: Mysterious Cloak- need to get
Belt: Epic Belt of Thoughtful Remembrance - have 1, need to farm another
Rings: Epic Guardian's Ring, Lantern Ring - have both
Hands: Iron Mitts - have
Bracers: Armbands of the Silenced Ones - have
Boots: Epic Boots of the Innocent dont have using orcish boots
Armor: Shadow Dragonplate Shadow Guardian 30/60 DR (This can be crafted with unbound ingredients) need more scales
Shield: Epic Shield of Tireless Aid, Epic Wall of Wood have both
Weapon: Thunderforged Scimitar with Evocation +6, Glaciation 150 (up to tier 2 with these stats can be crafted with unbound ingredients) can make but not sure if its worth it. its only a +1 evo dc, but not sure what else - maybe spell pen?
Just some thoughts on making this guy better
this is a caster druid with a focus on cold/elec damage and cc from earthquake
Augon
09-28-2015, 08:44 PM
I don't know anyone who knows how to make a great EE Caster Druid better than Gingerspyce.
I used this build and some of his other posts to modify my Halfling Druid and he is much better for the effort.
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/427398-Gingerspyce-s-caster-healer-quasi-tank-build?highlight=gingerspyce
Hobgoblin
09-28-2015, 08:46 PM
I don't know anyone who knows how to make a great EE Caster Druid better than Gingerspyce.
I used this build and some of his other posts to modify my Halfling Druid and he is much better for the effort.
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/427398-Gingerspyce-s-caster-healer-quasi-tank-build?highlight=gingerspyce
yup thats the thread i took a lot from!
his/hers/person of nongender is a human, and im trying to modify it for a helf, but didnt want to add on to that thread
Vooduspyce
09-28-2015, 10:48 PM
I was very unhappy with my caster druid in epics, so i spent some plat and time on fixing him
I got him to level 28 and looking at ering him
This is not optimal at the moment, but i dont want to tr... yet
so halfelf needs to stay
first life is staying
i have looked at gingers druid build and it was most enlightening
so level order:
FEATS
1st:Maximize
2nd (druid): Wild Shape: Wolf
3rd: SF: Evocation)
5th (druid): Wild Shape: Bear
6th: Empower Spell
8th (druid): Wild Shape: Winter Wolf
9th: Quicken Spell
11th (druid): Wild Shape: Dire Bear
12th: Shield Mastery
13th (druid): Wild Shape: Fire Elemental
15th: Improved Shield Mastery
17th (druid): Wild Shape: Water Elemental
18th: Heighten Spell
21st: empower healing
24th: heavy armor - blue dragon
26th: (Epic Destiny Feat): cold spell power
27th: ? maybe great wisdom if im odd?
28th: (Epic Destiny Feat): ?
Looks like you're dumping the toughness and epic toughness...
27th: Lot of people like Ruin. You could also take Epic DR.
28th: Here I use Elusive Target, but if you're looking for alternatives, some people like Mass Frog. Guardian Angel is nice too.
Gear - endgame- while im not opposed to raiding, im trying to get this guy up to where i feel comfortable raiding
Goggles: Shadowsight - ee version - have
Head: Halcyonia,- need, Epic Minos Legens- have
Neck: Sage's Locket - may go for the new lions neckless
Trinket: ?
Cloak: Mysterious Cloak- need to get
Belt: Epic Belt of Thoughtful Remembrance - have 1, need to farm another
Rings: Epic Guardian's Ring, Lantern Ring - have both
Hands: Iron Mitts - have
Bracers: Armbands of the Silenced Ones - have
Boots: Epic Boots of the Innocent dont have using orcish boots
Armor: Shadow Dragonplate Shadow Guardian 30/60 DR (This can be crafted with unbound ingredients) need more scales
Shield: Epic Shield of Tireless Aid, Epic Wall of Wood have both
Weapon: Thunderforged Scimitar with Evocation +6, Glaciation 150 (up to tier 2 with these stats can be crafted with unbound ingredients) can make but not sure if its worth it. its only a +1 evo dc, but not sure what else - maybe spell pen?
I just added this non-raid item section a few days ago and I'm really glad someone is using it already!
Trinket: besides what I have listed, you could also use Shamanic Fetish, Magestar, Kardin's Eye, Broken Music Box
Weapon: Other tier 2 options could be +6 to conjuration or purple slot for slotting spell power. I would not recommend spell pen. You could also craft a very nice epic water weapon from TOEE.
gl! :)
Hobgoblin
09-28-2015, 11:41 PM
Looks like you're dumping the toughness and epic toughness...
27th: Lot of people like Ruin. You could also take Epic DR.
28th: Here I use Elusive Target, but if you're looking for alternatives, some people like Mass Frog. Guardian Angel is nice too.
Trinket: besides what I have listed, you could also use Shamanic Fetish, Magestar, Kardin's Eye, Broken Music Box
Weapon: Other tier 2 options could be +6 to conjuration or purple slot for slotting spell power. I would not recommend spell pen. You could also craft a very nice epic water weapon from TOEE.
gl! :)
im using holy symbol of lolth right now - looking to put that away either for fetish or something else. just need a slot for globe
ruin - maybe, my sp is low right now, so maybe not
toughness? when im running in sentinal i have around 1300 hp. thats what 100 hp or so? doesnt seem worth it, but i could be convinced
ya spell pen as you say is only for two or 3ish spells, and fod is a joke trap on a druid. so it doesnt seem worth for 1 spell and a sla! what does conjuration do for a druid? thinking purple slot is my best option
Enderoc
09-29-2015, 12:04 AM
I would do transmutation rather than evocation focus in my own personal opinion. For the AOE entangles and plant growth spells, and ice flowers. You are a Druid, not a bug zapper.
Enderoc
09-29-2015, 12:38 AM
New Build You know why people take quicken, they dont want to give up a feat for mobile casting. You know why you give up a feat? As a caster you dont want to give up spell points. Unless of course you want to melee everything, then quicken is better. Personally I think staying ranged is probably a good idea. I would even consider doing this in the way of an arcane archer...but you can decide how to do that yourself if you want. Its late.
Druid 20
Chaotic Neutral Half-Elf
Stats
. . . . . . . .36pt. . .Tome . . Level Up
. . . . . . . .----. . .---- . . --------
Strength. . . . 14 . . . +6. . . .4: WIS
Dexterity . . . 12 . . . +6. . . .8: WIS
Constitution. . 14 . . . +6. . . 12: WIS
Intelligence. . 16 . . . +6. . . 16: WIS
Wisdom. . . . . 16 . . . +6. . . 20: WIS
Charisma. . . . .8 . . . +6. . . 24: WIS
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: WIS
Skills
. . . . . 1 .2. 3 .4. 5 .6. 7 .8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
Concent . 4 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 23
Heal. . . 4 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 23
Spellcr . 4 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 23
Spot. . . 4 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 23
Balance . 1 .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .1. 11
Jump. . . 2 .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ . . 11
Tumble. . 1 . . . . . . . . ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. 1 .1. 1 .1. 1 .1. 11
UMD . . . 2 .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½ . . 11
Diplo . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1. .1
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
. . . . .28 .7. 7 .7. 7 .7. 8 .8. 8 .8. 8 .8. 8 .8. 9 .9. 9 .9. 9 .9
Feats
.1. . . . : Mental Toughness
.1 HalfElf: Half-Elf Dilettante: Wizard
.2 Druid. : Wild Shape 1: Bear
.3. . . . : Spell Focus: Transmutation
.5 Druid. : Wild Shape 1: Wolf
.6. . . . : Greater Spell Focus: Transmutation
.8 Druid. : Wild Shape 2: Dire Bear
.9. . . . : Heighten Spell
11 Druid. : Wild Shape 2: Winter Wolf
12. . . . : Maximize Spell
13 Druid. : Wild Shape 3: Water Elemental
15. . . . : Combat Casting
17 Druid. : Wild Shape 3: Fire Elemental
18. . . . : Mobile Spellcasting
21 Epic . : Improved Mental Toughness
24 Epic . : Epic Mental Toughness
26 Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Cold
27 Epic . : Blinding Speed
28 Destiny: Elusive Target
Enhancements (80 AP)
Half-Elf (11 AP)
Versatile Nature
Improved Dilettante: Wizard, Arcane Fluidity II
Improved Recovery, Improved Spellcasting, Improved Dilettante: Wizard
Season's Herald (69 AP)
Seasoned, Time, Tide, Sunburst, Storm of Vengeance, Heirophant
Wand and Scroll Mastery III, Season's Greetings: Winter III, Beguile III, Wax and Wane
Spell Penetration III, Efficient Maximize III, Produce Flame III, Wax and Wane, Spellpower Boost III
Nature's Warden III, Efficient Heighten II, Creeping Cold III, Wax and Wane, Wisdom
Autumnal Susurrus III, Call Lightning II, Wisdom
Winter's Heart, Word of Balance II, Time and Tide, Strength of the Solstice
Vooduspyce
09-29-2015, 10:41 AM
im using holy symbol of lolth right now - looking to put that away either for fetish or something else. just need a slot for globe
ruin - maybe, my sp is low right now, so maybe not
toughness? when im running in sentinal i have around 1300 hp. thats what 100 hp or so? doesnt seem worth it, but i could be convinced
ya spell pen as you say is only for two or 3ish spells, and fod is a joke trap on a druid. so it doesnt seem worth for 1 spell and a sla! what does conjuration do for a druid? thinking purple slot is my best option
Conjuration would mainly affect Creeping Doom and Fire Seeds Trap, but also the lightning portion of SOV, and some people like Slinterbolt, which is one of druid's (I believe) only 3 untyped damage spells (the others being Ice Flowers, which does cold and piercing, and Earthquake). Purple slot is prob a better option though.
unbongwah
09-29-2015, 10:48 AM
Don't forget Salt Ray, which does Force dmg and can stun targets. EDIT: also Word of Balance, although based on alignment, does bane / untyped dmg as well.
Hobgoblin
09-29-2015, 10:55 AM
Don't forget Salt Ray, which does Force dmg and can stun targets. EDIT: also Word of Balance, although based on alignment, does bane / untyped dmg as well.
I love me my wob!
Its just that its the one spell thats worth it that has sr so its not worth a spell pen item
unbongwah
09-29-2015, 11:01 AM
There's only a few druid spells with SR checks: WoB, FoD, and Howl of Terror. Even more annoying, they each come from different schools too: Evo, Necro, and Enchantment, respectively. As such, I don't consider it worthwhile to build around any of them; I just save them for mobs which are weak against them.
Hobgoblin
09-29-2015, 11:28 AM
I am using an elite/eh wall of wood right now
when i get back to cap i plan on tireless aid
are there any other shields i should consider?
tower shield from reaver/fot?
just spitballing here, mostly happy with my shield performance now
Vooduspyce
09-29-2015, 04:57 PM
toughness? when im running in sentinal i have around 1300 hp. thats what 100 hp or so? doesnt seem worth it, but i could be convinced
If you are comfortable with your hp total then the toughness line is completely unnecessary :)
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