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maddong
09-05-2015, 12:33 PM
I'm assuming this can't compete with Human Barbarian 20 in DPS but thought it might be a fun build.

Dwarf Warlock 17/Barbarian 3 (barbarian at level 1 for skill points)
S 14 + 3 tome (for GTHF)
D 8
C 20 + level ups
I 14 (12 if 32 point)
W 10 (8 if 32 point)
C 12
1 power attack
3 maximize
6 empower
9 quicken
12 ICS
15 THF
18 ITHF
21 epic eldritch blast
24 GTHF
26 epic arcane eldritch blast
27 OC or ruin
28 PTHF

Enhancements:
ES 39 ap (core 4, eldritch burst, +2 con, spiritual retribution, brilliance, spirit blast, beacon, shining through, displacement)
dwarf 18 ap (+2 con, +4 hit/+6 dam axes, con to damage)
FB 15 ap (core 2, supreme cleave, +1 con)
TS 8 ap (core 2, utterdark blast)

At cap you would use a riftmaker and a lantern ring.

Idea is that in a 6 second period you supreme cleave, spirit blast, eldritch blast, supreme cleave, then have 2 seconds to either swing or energy burst (then repeat).

Originally I was thinking you'd rage but I think you can't blast while raging.

unbongwah
09-05-2015, 01:10 PM
The most immediate downside is dropping below warlock 18 means you lose Celestial Spirit, which drops your aura proc rate from 3 secs to 2; it also adds +3d6 light dmg to your Blasts. There's very little I can think of which is worth losing that extra aura DPS; certainly not Supreme Cleave. :(

One alternate possibility: warlock 18 / barb 1 / sorc or wiz 1 - access to EK Cleave, +10% barb runspeed (any idea if it stacks w/Feeding Frenzy), +3 Power Atk enhs from barb. I'm not convinced losing ES capstone is worth it, but it's an idea...

cru121
09-05-2015, 01:47 PM
Originally I was thinking you'd rage but I think you can't blast while raging.

So I had a similar question recently and noone provided a definitive answer, therefore I've just rolled an iconic multiclass.
The good: Eldritch Blast, Spirit Burst, and Shining Through can be used while Barbarian raged.
The bad: Supreme Cleave ignores temporary HP and eats your real HP.

maddong
09-05-2015, 08:20 PM
I think for area affect damage supreme cleave is going to be better than swinging a weapon....

If supreme cleave eats thru regular hp you probably have to spend the 6 ap to make it not do damage. That costs you utterdark blast so you would need to slot force.

That is interesting that you can blast/shining thru while raged.

maddong
09-06-2015, 11:46 AM
My pure warlock is only level 19 so I haven't been able to add ED powers yet.

At least in heroics the bursts you can't do anything right afterwards. So in a 6 second period you have 4 seconds to do something else. Stun blast takes forever to do. Using chain instead of aura takes time to get it started. The aura damage appears minor compared to the blasts. Sometimes half way into a quest I realize that I forgot to turn it on (maybe it is different in epics?).

So essentially if you are T5 ES with a DPS focus you have 4 seconds to:

1. Use chain instead of aura

2. Use stun blast (TS) or stricken/consume (SE) or ED powers

3. Melee (100+ attacks/minute)

4. Melee with 2 supreme cleaves (loss of 1 aura proc per 6 seconds)

How does 2 supreme cleaves with MP compare to 1 aura proc with SP?