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dlsidhe
06-21-2015, 06:10 PM
This charming drow eats souls, kills things, makes undead things more dead, has a surprising amount of crowd control from the disco ball and Evard's. I'm sitting at 53 Charisma at level 21, only starting to level Exalted.

Dianozia
Warlock 20
True Neutral Drow


Stats
. . . . . . . .28pt. . .30pt. . .32pt . . Tome . . Level Up
. . . . . . . .----. . .----. . .---- . . ---- . . --------
Strength. . . . .8 . . . .8 . . . .8. . . .+6. . . .4: CHA
Dexterity . . . 10 . . . 12 . . . 14. . . .+6. . . .8: CHA
Constitution. . 14 . . . 14 . . . 14. . . .+6. . . 12: CHA
Intelligence. . 12 . . . 12 . . . 12. . . .+6. . . 16: CHA
Wisdom. . . . . .8 . . . .8 . . . .8. . . .+6. . . 20: CHA
Charisma. . . . 20 . . . 20 . . . 20. . . .+6. . . 24: CHA
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: CHA

Skills
. . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
Spellcr . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
UMD . . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Concent . 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 21
Balance . . . . . . . . . . ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. .7
Jump. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. .6
Tumble. . 1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
. . . . .12. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5


Feats

.1. . . . : Maximize Spell
.1 Warlock: Pact: Fey
.3. . . . : Spell Penetration
.6. . . . : Empower Spell
.9. . . . : Spell Focus: Necromancy
12. . . . : Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy
15. . . . : Quicken Spell
18. . . . : Heighten Spell
21 Epic . : Epic Eldritch Blast
24 Epic . : Greater Spell Penetration
26 Destiny: Epic Skill Focus: Spellcraft
27 Epic . : Epic Spell Focus: Necromancy
28 Destiny: Epic Arcane Eldritch Blast


Spells

Jump, Nightshield
Blur, Silence Creature
Dimension Door, Displacement
Teleport, Evard's Black Tentacles
Greater Teleport, Undeath to Death
Wail of the Banshee, Symbol of Death

Enhancements (80 AP)

Drow (6 AP)
Spell Resistance, Charisma, Spell Resistance II, Charisma

Tainted Scholar (28 AP)
Tainted Spellcasting, Tainted Lore, Stanch
Planar Power III, Strong Pact
Utterdark Blast, Eldritch Chain Shape, Strong Pact
Faltering Blast, Strong Pact, Charisma
Penetrating Blast, Enervating Shadow, Strong Pact, Charisma

Soul Eater (46 AP)
Inhuman Understanding, Inhuman Nature, No Worse Fate, Inhuman Nature II, Eldritch Seeker, Devour the Soul
Consume, Hungry for Destruction III
Stricken III, Hungry for Destruction III
Strickened Soul, Blood Feast, Eldritch Cone Shape, Charisma
Strickened Form, Greater Hunger, Steal Life Force III, Immortal Will, Charisma
Eldritch Ward, Supreme Hunger, Feed on Magic, Spell Tearing, Finger of Death


Destiny (24 AP)

Exalted Angel
Radiant Power II, Endless Faith II, Healing Power II, Charisma
Soundburst III, Charisma
Piercing Spellcraft III, Charisma
Charisma
Charisma
Divine Wrath

giftie
06-22-2015, 06:46 AM
It's good to see a fellow Soul Eater. I love mine, but haven't met many who do.

A few comments: you go full on Necro, but don't take Finger of Death spell - that's probably a mistake. Greater Teleport is a limited utility you'll have to live without with so few spell slots. FoD spell costs the same as SLA (well, +3-5 SP for Heighten), so you'll probably use both since things will save against it.

Have you considered GOO pact? I get much more mileage out of Web and Knock than Disco - especially since we already get Mass Hold Monster for things that aren't immune to will affects. I don't see your twists, but I'm assuming +Necro from Magister. You could drop 1 Necro feat and take either Evo (Blast) or Conjuration (Web, Evard's) instead and use Draconic twist for a bit more reliable CC for will-immune things. GOO has the added advantage of working against will saves rather than reflex.

I think that the low starting CON on Drow will really hurt you in the long run without toughness feats. I'd up CON to 15 (assuming +6 tome as per your build), drop Epic Skill Focus for Toughness and Greater Spell Pen for Greater Toughness. I'd also try to free up some points for subtle spellcasting - because things will be coming for you, and you will die (I'd drop one tier of Hungry for Destruction - kinda expensive for just 6 USP anyway).

If you really want Soundburst, drop Endless Faith and pre-reqs to level 1, and get that final point of Charisma. If you're uneven on Charisma (though you shouldn't be with +11 item and all level-ups in CHA), twist in CHA until you get your gear sorted.

I haven't extensively tested the enhancements yet, but Taint the Blood looks like a really strong enhancement since FoD works on Fortitude saves. Similarly, Taint the Aura drops spell pen by 2, so it's situationally useful against Drow casters and orange names. Since Blood Feast is only useful as a debuff, I'm tempted to go with Your Will is Mine instead, and pair it with Devour instead of FoD.

Penetrating Blast is extremely situational - unless this is a solo build I'd skip it completely. And I don't see Bewitching Blast. I'd much rather take Taint the Blood and Bewitching Blast over Enervating Shadows, since up to -4 Fort save and possible confusion against three targets are better than a possible -1 DC on one target.

giftie
06-22-2015, 09:03 AM
Just for reference, not trying to highjack your thread, this is what I did:

Warlock 20
True Neutral Drow


Stats
. . . . . . . .32pt . . Tome . . Level Up
. . . . . . . .---- . . ---- . . --------
Strength. . . . .8. . . .+6. . . .4: CHA
Dexterity . . . 10. . . .+6. . . .8: CHA
Constitution. . 15. . . .+6. . . 12: CHA
Intelligence. . 13. . . .+6. . . 16: CHA
Wisdom. . . . . .8. . . .+6. . . 20: CHA
Charisma. . . . 20. . . .+6. . . 24: CHA
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: CHA

Skills
. . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
Concent . 2. 1. 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Spellcr . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
UMD . . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Jump. . . . . . . .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .2 .2 .2 .2 .2 .2 .1 .1 . . 22
Heal. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .½ .1 .1½. 3
Tumble. . 1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
. . . . .12. 3. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 6. 6


Feats

.1. . . . : Empower Spell
.1 Warlock: Pact: Great Old One
.3. . . . : Maximize Spell
.6. . . . : Past Life: Wizard
.9. . . . : Quicken Spell
12. . . . : Spell Focus: Necromancy
15. . . . : Spell Focus: Conjuration
18. . . . : Heighten Spell
21 Epic . : Spell Penetration
24 Epic . : Epic Eldritch Blast
26 Destiny: Toughness
27 Epic . : Epic Toughness
28 Destiny: Epic Arcane Eldritch Blast


Spells

Resist Energy, Nightshield
Invisibility, Sleet Storm
Dimension Door, Displacement
Evard's Black Tentacles, Protection from Elements
Finger of Death, Undeath to Death
Power Word: Stun, Wail of the Banshee

Enhancements (80 AP)

Drow (6 AP)
Spell Resistance, Charisma, Spell Resistance II, Charisma

Soul Eater (41 AP)
Inhuman Understanding, Inhuman Nature, No Worse Fate, Inhuman Nature II, Eldritch Seeker, Devour the Soul
Consume, Subtle Spellcasting III, Taint the Blood
Stricken III, Taint the Aura
Strickened Soul, Your Will Is Mine, Charisma
Strickened Form, Greater Hunger, Steal Life Force II, Immortal Will, Charisma
Supreme Hunger, Feed on Magic, Spell Tearing, Finger of Death

Tainted Scholar (33 AP)
Tainted Spellcasting, Tainted Lore, Stanch, Tainted Lore II, Blood Component
Planar Power II, Strong Pact
Utterdark Blast, Eldritch Chain Shape, Strong Pact
Efficient Heighten II, Confusion III, Strong Pact, Charisma
Bewitching Blast III, Strong Pact, Charisma


Destiny (24 AP)

Exalted Angel
Radiant Power II, Endless Faith II, Healing Power II, Charisma
Charisma
Piercing Spellcraft III, Charisma
Charisma
Leap of Faith, Charisma
Divine Wrath, Charisma

Twists of Fate (18 fate points)
Piercing Spellcraft (Tier 3 Magister)
School Specialist: Necromancy (Tier 2 Magister)
Precise: Conjuration (Tier 2 Draconic)


I'm open to dropping the Arcane Blast feats for Ruin and Hellball.

Loromir
06-22-2015, 09:05 AM
I've noticed a lot of people are putting extra points into intel. Other than skill points, what is the benefit of intel for a warlock?

giftie
06-22-2015, 09:46 AM
I've noticed a lot of people are putting extra points into intel. Other than skill points, what is the benefit of intel for a warlock?

None. But is there some other stat you'd rather put it in?

Skavenaps
06-22-2015, 09:50 AM
None. But is there some other stat you'd rather put it in?

False. You gain a bit of spellcraft that equals spell power. The gain is rather low.. but once you have CHA and CON...

Skavenaps
06-22-2015, 09:52 AM
stuff

I like it! Im playing a ES (41 points) plus some more on SE. My necro dc is a bit low.. but my survival is amazing.

Loromir
06-22-2015, 10:04 AM
None. But is there some other stat you'd rather put it in?


More Con.

giftie
06-22-2015, 10:24 AM
More Con.

I guess I walked into that one. =) But I'd say as long as you can hit 21 by epics you have enough CON on a Drow, while 15 or 16 depends on tomes and gearing. If 15, INT is as good a place for 3 build points as any.

Loromir
06-22-2015, 10:39 AM
I guess I walked into that one. =) But I'd say as long as you can hit 21 by epics you have enough CON on a Drow, while 15 or 16 depends on tomes and gearing. If 15, INT is as good a place for 3 build points as any.

I agree that intel would be a good 3rd choice for build points...and I was aware of the extra skill points and slightly more spellcraft. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something else I was missing.

CON on a drow is a good thing...IMO.

Uska
06-22-2015, 03:55 PM
nice to see some builds

HuneyMunster
06-22-2015, 04:26 PM
It's good to see a fellow Soul Eater. I love mine, but haven't met many who do.

A few comments: you go full on Necro, but don't take Finger of Death spell - that's probably a mistake. Greater Teleport is a limited utility you'll have to live without with so few spell slots. FoD spell costs the same as SLA (well, +3-5 SP for Heighten), so you'll probably use both since things will save against it.


Having 2x FoD is nice but other option is to replace Greater Teleport with Circle of Death. In heroic on a Wiz I always got Archmage Illusion to grab the PK sla so get two to spam along with necro spells. Could maybe drop Undeath to Death and take both FoD and CoD.

You could maybe also scroll Nightshield and take Cause Fear to use un-meta'd for cheap -2 to saves shaken debuff when saved. In heroic and even some ee mobs fail the save without using heighten.



I think that the low starting CON on Drow will really hurt you in the long run without toughness feats.


Toughness is only 30 hp at level 28 might save you once if a while but not necessary and epic toughness would requires at least a +5 tome to be taken on a Drow.

Munnin2
06-22-2015, 05:57 PM
What Am i missing? I notice Everyone taking Maximize/Empower. What does that have an effect on? I didnt think it affected Eldritch blast, does it affect consume etc?

HuneyMunster
06-22-2015, 06:36 PM
What Am i missing? I notice Everyone taking Maximize/Empower. What does that have an effect on? I didnt think it affected Eldritch blast, does it affect consume etc?


There are a number of abilites in the enhancements that uses meta feats such as Stunning Blast, Eldritch Wave and Eldridth Ball. The OP has not taken any of these though.

Also max/emp is useful in epic content for divine wrath and the cure wounds from exalted angel.

DrawingGuy
06-22-2015, 06:38 PM
Eldritch Blast does not benefit from Maximize and Empower, but most SLAs and Shiradi procs do.

giftie
06-22-2015, 08:01 PM
You could maybe also scroll Nightshield and take Cause Fear to use un-meta'd for cheap -2 to saves shaken debuff when saved. In heroic and even some ee mobs fail the save without using heighten.

Yes, spells could use some twinking. I like OP's Jump since it can't be scrolled that high, whereas Nightshield is situational. Cause Fear is actually kinda likely to land even un-heightened since we're looking at a 65+ Necro DC, which might potentially be annoying. It's also pretty tempting to take Touch of Idiocy to beef up Devour further. I'm not sure more clickies would actually help at this point, though. =)


Toughness is only 30 hp at level 28 might save you once if a while but not necessary and epic toughness would requires at least a +5 tome to be taken on a Drow.

OP takes a supreme +6, otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it. Of course, not taking TS Core 5 pretty much amounts to a Toughness as well, but I like that +10% attack speed.

Makkuroi
06-23-2015, 04:03 AM
Im also playing a soul eater/tainted scholar drow, got chain blast and tainted blast (and some pact dice) out of scholar, investing all else into soul eater at the moment (lvl 9 only). I took maximize for consume/stricken and other stuff in the future. Ill put 41 in soul eater since there is not enough good stuff in scholar below tier 5 to get to the capstone (even though the capstone looks better). Not sure how to spend remaining points over scholar, spirit and drow. Probably all the pact damage and cha in scholar, and will check if i can get something useful out of spirit (light spellpower.. tier 4 probably too expensive).

dunklezhan
06-23-2015, 04:20 AM
Sometimes I feel I've got to
Pew away, I've got to
Blast away the angst in the heart of me
The quest I share
Does not fill but I guess that's fair
With my Eldritch might
That I toss and burn: it's got extra Light!

Once we ran from you
But now with Cthulu
This tainted love it gave me
I'll give you what drow 'locks can give you
Take my pain and take this Eldritch (Ball!)


Tainted Drow (oh woah-oh oh)
Tainted Drow...



Ahem. I guess I need to do some work now.

Alisonique
06-24-2015, 10:19 AM
Sometimes I feel I've got to
Pew away, I've got to
Blast away the angst in the heart of me
The quest I share
Does not fill but I guess that's fair
With my Eldritch might
That I toss and burn: it's got extra Light!

Once we ran from you
But now with Cthulu
This tainted love it gave me
I'll give you what drow 'locks can give you
Take my pain and take this Eldritch (Ball!)




Tainted Drow (oh woah-oh oh)
Tainted Drow...



Ahem. I guess I need to do some work now.





lolol sheer genius.

P.S. We have a soft(ly padded) cell for you too

dunklezhan
06-24-2015, 12:28 PM
Ay thenkyew.

I was going to do the whole song but I figured one verse and a chorus would get the gag over well enough :)

AlcoArgo
06-24-2015, 03:36 PM
This charming drow eats souls, kills things, makes undead things more dead, has a surprising amount of crowd control from the disco ball and Evard's. I'm sitting at 53 Charisma at level 21, only starting to level Exalted.



Skills
. . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
UMD . . . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23


Spells

Jump, Nightshield
Blur, Silence Creature
Dimension Door, Displacement
Teleport, Evard's Black Tentacles
Greater Teleport, Undeath to Death
Wail of the Banshee, Symbol of Death



OP,

Why are you using spell slots on teleport and GT? You are investing in UMD and they come in scroll form - I regularly run with stacks of them on all my characters.

I have not played warlock yet so I don't know the spell list. Is there really nothing else to take at those levels?