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Gadren
06-18-2015, 12:08 AM
Was planning on trying out Warlock tomorrow as a Bladeforged, because they just look so f-ing metal.
Any recommendations? I was thinking of rolling up one melee lock and one blasting lock to try them both out.
Violith
06-18-2015, 01:29 AM
Was planning on trying out Warlock tomorrow as a Bladeforged, because they just look so f-ing metal.
Any recommendations? I was thinking of rolling up one melee lock and one blasting lock to try them both out.
as a bladeforge is required to be paladin (Lawful good), your stuck with fey pact. unless you alignment/LR, which would be rather costly.
but other then that dont see a reason it would be any worse then any other race.
Red_Knight
06-18-2015, 01:50 AM
as a bladeforge is required to be paladin (Lawful good), your stuck with fey pact. unless you alignment/LR, which would be rather costly.
but other then that dont see a reason it would be any worse then any other race.
At least once they figure out how to implement alignment restricting pacts you will be. That said, not entirely sure what bladeforge would add to warlock. If you LR away the paladin level you lose the repair spells. At which point you get stuck with a single Reconstruct spell if you go deep enough into Bladeforged's racial tree. Then again, I don't multi-class much. This is especially on classes like monk or warlock (once it's released) that derive a large part of their damage from class levels.
Warforged or Bladeforged would have to decide at char creation if they plan on going into the enlightened spirit tree. This is important due to the Medium Armor enhancement in that tree. An enhancement that removes arcane spell failure from medium armor while granting proficiency. If so, you'd be taking Mithrial body at char creation. If not, you would stick with composite body. Which I believe would mean you'd have worse AC overall then someone who could actually wear high end light armors. Docents only provide their enchantment bonus to composite body after all.
giftie
06-18-2015, 10:45 AM
Warforged or Bladeforged would have to decide at char creation if they plan on going into the enlightened spirit tree. This is important due to the Medium Armor enhancement in that tree. An enhancement that removes arcane spell failure from medium armor while granting proficiency. If so, you'd be taking Mithrial body at char creation. If not, you would stick with composite body. Which I believe would mean you'd have worse AC overall then someone who could actually wear high end light armors. Docents only provide their enchantment bonus to composite body after all.
I thought both Warlocks and Bards were proficient with, and didn't suffer ASP from light armor?
Blackheartox
06-18-2015, 11:00 AM
Bf, 15 lock 3 wiz 2 fsoul, fey.
Bf 12 lock 6 wiz, 2 soul, fey.
Bf 12 lock 5 wiz 3 palie, fey.
Bf 20 lock, fey.
First 3 are shiradi builds, last one can be modified for melle or casting.
All require hearts
Violith
06-18-2015, 11:06 AM
I thought both Warlocks and Bards were proficient with, and didn't suffer ASP from light armor?
I dont think he knew that mithral = light. and that warforge have no medium body component. , and true, they're supposed to not suffer however, not sure if they every got around to fixing it.
as per the lamma release notes
NEW: Warlock Known Issues:
TO CREATE A NEW WARLOCK: From the character creation screen, select "Free Trial" Warlock, then create the character. Once logged into Lamannia, open the DDO Store and "Select All" to find the Warlock in the store.
The Auto-attack feat does not yet function with Eldritch Blast.
There is not yet a way to increase Warlock levels in Epic.
Jeets and others in the Grotto do not yet respect your Warlock-ness.
Warlock trainers erroneously offer to swap out spells for levels seven, eight, and nine.
Warlocks still have Arcane Spell Failure with light armor.
The auto-attack was said to be fixed (but never made it to lamma for testing. Not sure what they meant by not increasing in epic (guessing thats like the destinies increassing the other casting classes but none increase warlock yet) but that bottom about no afs seems like it'd be an easy fix.... but again, if they did fix it, I dont think it ever made it to lamma for testing.
Theolin
06-18-2015, 11:12 AM
the interesting thing about warlock for their spell list is they do not get reconstruct but get mass light recon ....... ???????
adrian69
06-18-2015, 01:17 PM
as a bladeforge is required to be paladin (Lawful good), your stuck with fey pact. unless you alignment/LR, which would be rather costly.
but other then that dont see a reason it would be any worse then any other race.
I rolled a BF Old Great One on Lamm. When did they introduce alignment restrictions?
Gadren
06-18-2015, 02:15 PM
I was considering going with adamantine body, since I can reduce that asf to 0 with 3 AP and a greater twilight docent.
Is it bad if I dump int on a warlock?
Steve_Howe
06-18-2015, 02:30 PM
I was considering going with adamantine body, since I can reduce that asf to 0 with 3 AP and a greater twilight docent.
Is it bad if I dump int on a warlock?
INT bumps up your SPellcraft skill which relates directly to Spellpower. Don't completely dump it. It should be your third most important stat after CHA and CON.
zehnvhex
06-18-2015, 04:08 PM
Depends on how you build it. Been playing around with a 16war/4paladin and it's pretty fun. Hide in a corner and alternate blasts until everything is dead, LoH as necessary. It's like an even tankier verison of the PM wizard. Won't scale well into epic at all but what caster does honestly? Displacement SLA + that bat form thingy makes you basically immune to everything as well until you get to where you want to be as well.
Red_Knight
06-18-2015, 06:52 PM
I thought both Warlocks and Bards were proficient with, and didn't suffer ASP from light armor?
Correct, but while composite body counts as light armor it also is treated as unarmored in terms of AC granted by docents. So while composite body gets no arcane spell failure, it also gets no PRR or MRR that light armor would have granted. I find it interesting that they added ASF affecting eldrich blasts when it went to live. I'd used tower shield and full plate on Lam for a bit due to ASF not affecting eldrich blast. No longer true.
richieelias27
06-19-2015, 08:33 AM
I rolled a BF Old Great One on Lamm. When did they introduce alignment restrictions?
They stealth changed it when they rolled it out on live. You can still pick opposing pacts, but you will lose your pact damage on EB.
Drakos
06-19-2015, 02:30 PM
They stealth changed it when they rolled it out on live. You can still pick opposing pacts, but you will lose your pact damage on EB.I wouldn't say it was a "stealth" change. They had the restrictions in the initial design they posted, and they never removed them. They just had some technical difficulties to overcome to get them in.
Red_Knight
06-19-2015, 03:17 PM
They had mentioned wanting to alignment restrict the pacts, and that they were working on how to do it. Not a stealth change so much as "oh, they got that working I see". Stealth would mean they had never indicated this would happen.
The changes to spell power scaling on EB, the shapes, and the sla, THOSE were stealth changes. Good stealth changes, but still stealth changes.
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