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TheBlueFox
06-08-2015, 04:31 PM
Is anyone else having strange issues with Shiv recently? The most recent update seems to have... not broken it, but made it work wonky.

So shiv has 5 parts to it really:
-Unique animation
-Damage
-Bluff enemy
-Bluff effect on self (Mostly Harmless)
-Fort Debuff

I have 2 main combat hotbars, normal numbers, and SHIFT+numbers. Shift is also my shield block button, so for some abilities I shield block and use the ability or item, this works fine...mostly.

When I hit a number, or click the icon for shiv, I get only SOME of it's effects. I get a NORMAL animation + damage + Bluff Enemy + Fort Debuff
When I hold SHIFT(Shield block) and hit the skill I get UNIQUE animation + Bluff Enemy + Bluff Self (Mostly Harmless) + Fort Debuff

When I get the unique animation, I don't get damage, when I get the normal animation I don't get the mostly harmless self effect. Anyone else have this problem?

Saekee
06-09-2015, 09:12 AM
Is anyone else having strange issues with Shiv recently? The most recent update seems to have... not broken it, but made it work wonky.

So shiv has 5 parts to it really:
-Unique animation
-Damage
-Bluff enemy
-Bluff effect on self (Mostly Harmless)
-Fort Debuff

I have 2 main combat hotbars, normal numbers, and SHIFT+numbers. Shift is also my shield block button, so for some abilities I shield block and use the ability or item, this works fine...mostly.

When I hit a number, or click the icon for shiv, I get only SOME of it's effects. I get a NORMAL animation + damage + Bluff Enemy + Fort Debuff
When I hold SHIFT(Shield block) and hit the skill I get UNIQUE animation + Bluff Enemy + Bluff Self (Mostly Harmless) + Fort Debuff

When I get the unique animation, I don't get damage, when I get the normal animation I don't get the mostly harmless self effect. Anyone else have this problem?

Seems like some unusual experiments--I hadn't tried it with shield block. It is not supposed to bluff yourself--what is that exactly? The fort debuff is against the poisons, correct?

Violith
06-09-2015, 09:51 AM
Is anyone else having strange issues with Shiv recently? The most recent update seems to have... not broken it, but made it work wonky.

So shiv has 5 parts to it really:
-Unique animation
-Damage
-Bluff enemy
-Bluff effect on self (Mostly Harmless)
-Fort Debuff

I have 2 main combat hotbars, normal numbers, and SHIFT+numbers. Shift is also my shield block button, so for some abilities I shield block and use the ability or item, this works fine...mostly.

When I hit a number, or click the icon for shiv, I get only SOME of it's effects. I get a NORMAL animation + damage + Bluff Enemy + Fort Debuff
When I hold SHIFT(Shield block) and hit the skill I get UNIQUE animation + Bluff Enemy + Bluff Self (Mostly Harmless) + Fort Debuff

When I get the unique animation, I don't get damage, when I get the normal animation I don't get the mostly harmless self effect. Anyone else have this problem?

Talking about the enhancement correct?
Shiv: Melee Attack: +1/+2/+3[W] damage. On hit: Makes a Bluff check, using your Bluff skill, for one second + .25 seconds per Rogue level. On Sneak Attack: Target also gains a -2 Fortitude Save against Poisons for 20 seconds. (Stacks 5 times.) (Cooldown: 12 seconds) Passive: Reduces the threat of all your attacks by 5/10/15%.


If so, Shieldblock causes a few actions to have a unique animation, not sure if its intended or not... Sometimes it does cause the dmg to not register, since your technically using a shieldbash when you attack when blocking. Never really bothered with shiv, so I cant say whether its supposed to have its own unique one to begin with. but shield block overwrites some of them, not sure about too many other classes, but I know that my rogue/monk handwrap user had more kick animations when using shieldblock and some of the base tactical feats that normally wasnt part of the tactical feat.

as for the mostly harmless, I believe thats the bluff's effect that reduces your agro for your attacks for 6seconds isnt it?, supposed to be there I believe.

TheBlueFox
06-09-2015, 01:58 PM
I first noticed this when I was trying to add an attack to my hotbars. I moved Shiv from my lower bar to my upper bar (My Shift+number bar). When I started to use Shiv, I noticed I was doing an animation that stood out. I can't remember if this was the original animation, I believe it was, I just hadn't really taken notice of it in a long time.

The animation was a downward slash from right to left, followed by a white crescent shaped wave moving forward slightly following the blade. I believe this was the original animation of Shiv.

Because I'm shield blocking when using it, It deals no damage, however it's effects do emerge. I get all the effects except for damage. When I use it normally by either clicking on the icon or hitting the key, I do a normal attack as if I had just hit left-click, I get damage and the enemy gets debuffed but I do not get the personal "Mostly Harmless" buff that is supposed to happen during any bluff check.

For now I'm prioritizing damage, so I don't get to see the animation which is a shame, it's kind of nice. I'm going to be checking my other abilities to see if they have the same particular issue, and maybe I'll write a bug report or something