2/6/12 Rogue/Fighter/Bard -- Need input please! :)

[raphouminette]

Hi everyone!

Here's the build I plan to use on my next life, if you have any suggestions to make it more awesome, please share! :D

The basic idea is a trapper swashbuckling bard with buckler.

I choose Dexterity for my swashbuckling damaging stat for a few reasons:
- Able to take weapon finesse feat to complement dex to damage enhancement
- I plan to mostly rely on Low Blow to hit my Coup de grace CDs for instant kills
- The idea is to kill things super fast instead of CCing them. :)

You'll notice I didn't take rogue as my first level, even though that is slightly better for skills. The reason is rogue don't have that many great feats at level one, and I couldn't find anything interesting to take for my extra human bonus feat. I end up loosing very few skills for not taking rogue at first level, and I can take power critical feat later on for better damage.

I take 2 levels of rogue for evasion, and 6 levels of fighter for extra feats, and the possibility to open up martial epic life (if i choose to continue this character into epic!).

For skills, I end with max'd DD and search and almost max'd balance, UMD and Open Lock. I also end with decent concentration for when I need to self heal, and 15ranks of perform so that I can sing all my bard songs.

Final enhancement trees can be found below.

Thanks for any feedback guys! :D


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Level 20 True Neutral Human Female
(6 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 12 Bard)
Hit Points: 274
Spell Points: 387
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 22
Will: 9

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(36 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Strength 8 8 8
Dexterity 18 24 28
Constitution 16 18 19
Intelligence 14 16 16
Wisdom 8 8 8
Charisma 12 14 14

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20)
Balance 8 31 31
Bluff 5 6 6
Concentration 7 18 18
Diplomacy 1 2 2
Disable Device n/a 26 26
Haggle 1 2 2
Heal 1 1 1
Hide 4 9 9
Intimidate 1 2 2
Jump 2 2 2
Listen -1 -1 -1
Move Silently 4 9 9
Open Lock n/a 27 27
Perform 5 17 17
Repair 2 3 3
Search 4 26 26
Spellcraft 2 3 3
Spot 1 1 1
Swim -1 -1 -1
Tumble 5 10 10
Use Magic Device 5 22 22

Level 1 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Bluff (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Skill: Perform (+4)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Human Bonus) Single Weapon Fighting
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds


Level 2 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+5)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Search (+3)


Level 3 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Focusing Chant


Level 5 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Sonic Blast


Level 6 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Precision
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (2): Invisibility


Level 7 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Spell (1): Hypnotism
Spell (2): Blur


Level 8 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Single Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery


Level 10 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Spell (2): Heroism
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Haste


Level 11 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (3): Displacement


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery


Level 13 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)


Level 15 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Single Weapon Fighting
Spell (3): Summon Monster III
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (4): Dimension Door


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons


Level 17 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement


Level 18 (Fighter)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Piercing Weapons


Level 19 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)


Level 20 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Critical




ENHANCEMENTS:

http://i.imgur.com/5ORQ5RV.png

[Feithlin]

I'll quote a previous post I made on a similar subject. Bard 15 gives access to Inspire Excellence, still allows for good freeze DCs if going warchanter (especially if you go PDK); 3 Fighter levels are enough for the stance; and 2 Rogue levels are enough for evasion and trap skills since bard levels grant a lot of skill points. All you need to see is if you really need those 2 extra feats from going Fighter 6.

You may go swashbuckler with a similar build and human if you don't have PDK. Just take Different Tack to keep using Cha to hit and damage.
If you have access to Harper (which I don't yet), include Know the Angles to the build.

You should max Perform to max your songs DCs.


Personally, for my roguish bard, I went with PDK Bard 15/Fighter 3/Rogue 2, similar to the Icebreaker (https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/446859-The-Icebreaker-A-Freezing-Warchanter-Bard).

She is cha-based, has tier 5 warchanter, with freezes boosted by PDK, while maintaining SD stance (she uses a buckler) for added defense, and Rogue 2 for evasion and trap skills.


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Ardence
Level 28 True Neutral Purple Dragon Knight Female
(3 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 15 Bard \ 8 Epic)
Hit Points: 371
Spell Points: 813
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 13
Will: 10

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 28)
Strength 13 16
Dexterity 8 11
Constitution 15 19
Intelligence 13 16
Wisdom 8 11
Charisma 18 29

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 28)
Balance 1 19
Bluff 4 17
Concentration 2 27
Diplomacy 4 17
Disable Device n/a 34
Haggle 4 17
Heal 1 11
Hide -1 8
Intimidate 4 17
Jump 5 16
Listen -1 8
Move Silently -1 8
Open Lock n/a 23
Perform n/a 40
Repair 1 11
Search 1 34
Spellcraft 1 11
Spot -1 8
Swim 1 11
Tumble 0 9
Use Magic Device 5 40

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Cleave
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Shield Mastery


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Enchantment


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: CHA


Level 5 (Rogue)


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave


Level 7 (Bard)


Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA


Level 9 (Bard)


Level 10 (Bard)


Level 11 (Bard)


Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons


Level 13 (Bard)


Level 14 (Bard)


Level 15 (Rogue)


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA


Level 17 (Bard)


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery


Level 19 (Bard)


Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA


Level 21 (Epic)


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: CHA
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Inspire Excellence


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Reflexes


Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: CHA
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Tactician

[UurlockYgmeov]

this has slippery mind and evasion (granted from Bard enhancements)

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/443235-The-Count-of-Monte-Cristo-dps-CC-survivability-focused-pure-swashbuckler

seems to have everything you seem to have wanted.

[unbongwah]

I choose Dexterity for my swashbuckling damaging stat for a few reasons:
If you have Harper, you may wish to consider going INT-based instead: higher DPS from Know the Angles + Strategic Combat II + Versatile Adept and better trap skills. Then you can start rog @ lvl 1 with SWF + Insightful Reflexes. Only downside is losing AC, but...since when has AC been relevant to bards? ;)

I take 2 levels of rogue for evasion, and 6 levels of fighter for extra feats
Unless you really need those two extra feats or higher-tier PrE abilities, I prefer the bard 15 / ftr 3 / rog 2 combo: you gain Inspire Heroics + Excellence as an epic feat choice; and lvl 5 spells.

the possibility to open up martial epic life (if i choose to continue this character into epic!).
Note that once you've chosen your initial ED, that becomes your starting point and you have to work your way thru the adjacent EDs. You can't TR into a different build then "skip" to another Sphere, unfortunately. :(