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eachna_gislin
02-08-2015, 09:18 AM
Carnifex is the lowbie twink two-handed slashing weapon. Sword of the thirty and heroic sword of shadows are available a few levels higher. Above those is Whirlwind.
What are the the equivalent named one-handed twink lowbie slashing weapons? I'm hoping for something with an expanded critical range, a higher crit multiplier, or maybe a really awesome proc. Bonus points if it comes with a heroic augment slot.
I found Sirocco (a one-handed longsword with whirlwind's procs and a normal critical range), but it looks a little weak next to Whirlwind.
Any pointers would be appreciated.
Kasiddy
02-08-2015, 10:08 AM
A few things come to mind:
Tiefling Assassin's Blade (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Tiefling_Assassin%27s_Blade) is very nice, arguably best lowbie twink single-handed weapon, but piercing.
Guardian of the Liturgy (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Guardian_of_the_Liturgy) is a dagger but has both slashing and piercing.
Nightforge Stiletto (http://ddowiki.com/page/Nightforge_Stiletto) from Relic of a Sovereign Past Adamantine Ore turn-ins.
Avenger's Blade (http://ddowiki.com/page/Nightforge_Avenger_Blade) also from Relic.
Elemental Khopesh of Water (http://ddowiki.com/page/Elemental_Khopesh_of_Water)
Hooked Blade and its upgrades (ddowiki.com/page/Hooked_Blade)
Blood Machete (http://ddowiki.com/page/Blood_Machete)
Midnight Greetings (http://ddowiki.com/page/Midnight_Greetings) but mostly desirable in its epic version
Just about any crafted Greensteel becomes very twinky at level 12 after a TR.
And just about any old lootgen with a good effects, like lascerating, with a icy burst kit put on it, since we're in that season again.
Note that the daggers listed with slashing should benefit from Improved Crit: Pierce since the base dagger is a piercing weapon, and not Improved Crit: Slashing.
There is also this page on the wiki, but might be slightly outdated: http://ddowiki.com/page/Category:Slashing_weapons
Mercureal
02-08-2015, 12:47 PM
Carnifex is the lowbie twink two-handed slashing weapon. Sword of the thirty and heroic sword of shadows are available a few levels higher. Above those is Whirlwind.
What are the the equivalent named one-handed twink lowbie slashing weapons? I'm hoping for something with an expanded critical range, a higher crit multiplier, or maybe a really awesome proc. Bonus points if it comes with a heroic augment slot.
I found Sirocco (a one-handed longsword with whirlwind's procs and a normal critical range), but it looks a little weak next to Whirlwind.
Any pointers would be appreciated.
This is an unexpectedly tough question. I spent a bit of time thinking about it and I couldn't come up with anything that really comes close to a one-handed version of Carnifex. The closest I could recall were both level 8:
- http://ddowiki.com/page/Nightforge_Avenger_Blade: longsword with an 18-20 range and a red slot
- http://ddowiki.com/page/Threnalian_War_Blade: longsword, no expanded critical profile, but good base damage and red and purple augment slots
Couldn't think of any other lowish one-hander slashing weapons worth much, unfortunately. Situationally, i.e. specifically for a Swashbuckler, there are several more. If that's relevant to you, you may want to check out this thread that has lots of good suggestions: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/455262-Leveling-weapons-for-swashbuckler.
Saekee
02-08-2015, 01:35 PM
hi OP, a quick question--why does it need to be slashing? Is this due to IC: slashing? In which case, which level will you get the IC: Slashing?
The Tiefling's blade, for example, comes with keen and an expanded threat range on top of it.
Wipey
02-08-2015, 01:48 PM
The best one handed weapon is Holy Maul + Great Cleave + Power Attack + Deadly item + Strength item.
What's the deal with Tiefling Blade by the way ? The most annoying mobs from 1-10 are undead.
Anyway, have used "Scoundrel" stuff from 3bc, Jeweled Hammer from Threnal or pair of rapiers from Sorrowdusk on twf toons. Only because fighting with two hander on ranger is pretty stupid, more effective though. So ... yeah.
Star of Irian, Nightforge Avenger Blade. Desert weapons have good base damage ( Mirage, Zephyr, Flint ). Obviously not slashing though.
It is much more fun with Greensteel and Tome pages weapons.
EllisDee37
02-08-2015, 01:59 PM
If you're not swashbuckling, my personal favorite one-handed slasher is an ML12 Elemental Khopesh of Water. (Drops to ML10 @ Tier 3 w/Masterful.)
Sehenry03
02-08-2015, 02:18 PM
Carnifex is the lowbie twink two-handed slashing weapon. Sword of the thirty and heroic sword of shadows are available a few levels higher. Above those is Whirlwind.
What are the the equivalent named one-handed twink lowbie slashing weapons? I'm hoping for something with an expanded critical range, a higher crit multiplier, or maybe a really awesome proc. Bonus points if it comes with a heroic augment slot.
I found Sirocco (a one-handed longsword with whirlwind's procs and a normal critical range), but it looks a little weak next to Whirlwind.
Any pointers would be appreciated.
I know what your asking but how good something is...is objective. You say for example Whirlwind is better then SoS. I personally consider Whirlwind a junk sword once I get SoS and I know my DPS is WAY higher with SoS.
There are some good 1h weapons but I was thinking the same thing as you. Carniflex at lvl 4 is awesome and then SoS at 10 is the best tilo 20 when you get some epic stuff.
Tieflings Blade is only good lvl 4 weapon comparable to carniflex and when you hit 14 you can use Deathnip or Razorend which are both 1h. No really good 1h slashing though I can think of that compares to those.
Sehenry03
02-08-2015, 02:18 PM
The best one handed weapon is Holy Maul + Great Cleave + Power Attack + Deadly item + Strength item.
What's the deal with Tiefling Blade by the way ? The most annoying mobs from 1-10 are undead.
Anyway, have used "Scoundrel" stuff from 3bc, Jeweled Hammer from Threnal or pair of rapiers from Sorrowdusk on twf toons. Only because fighting with two hander on ranger is pretty stupid, more effective though. So ... yeah.
Star of Irian, Nightforge Avenger Blade. Desert weapons have good base damage ( Mirage, Zephyr, Flint ). Obviously not slashing though.
It is much more fun with Greensteel and Tome pages weapons.
Holy Maul is 1h?!?!?!
Grailhawk
02-08-2015, 03:03 PM
+2 keen khopesh of bleeding ml 4 same crit profile as carniflex but +1d8 bleed. For one hander's khopesh makes things different you don't need tweenk gear like you do with two hander's.
Sehenry03
02-08-2015, 04:10 PM
+2 keen khopesh of bleeding ml 4 same crit profile as carniflex but +1d8 bleed. For one hander's khopesh makes things different you don't need tweenk gear like you do with two hander's.
Still not even close. Carniflex is NOT keen so you can still get imp crit slashing bonus with it. Carniflex lets me wade through the first 10 levels like nothing else.
Sehenry03
02-08-2015, 04:13 PM
Still not even close. Carniflex is NOT keen so you can still get imp crit slashing bonus with it. Carniflex lets me wade through the first 10 levels like nothing else.
Bah my bad I was thinking of my SoS. yes Carniflex is Keen so it is the same.
Khopesh takes a feat though. And I prefer 2handed weapons personally.
EllisDee37
02-08-2015, 05:00 PM
+2 keen khopesh of bleeding ml 4 same crit profile as carniflex but +1d8 bleed. For one hander's khopesh makes things different you don't need tweenk gear like you do with two hander's.This is an excellent suggestion, though it should be noted that getting it down to ML4 requires Masterful. Maybe drop it down from +2 to +1 (keeping the Bleed) if you can't do Masterful?
An alternative if you can't afford the feat would be a scimitar or rapier doing the same thing: +2 keen of bleed, giving you 15-20x2. Not as good as 17-20x3, of course, but not terrible.
phillymiket
02-08-2015, 05:17 PM
If you're not swashbuckling, my personal favorite one-handed slasher is an ML12 Elemental Khopesh of Water. (Drops to ML10 @ Tier 3 w/Masterful.)
If you are swashbuckling, Axe of the Unseen Blow from Litany Cholthulzz or Mentau looks super nice.
With swashbuckling and IC:slash it becomes a 15-20 profile and x4 crit multiplier handaxe
I am searching for one for my next TR so I haven't tried it yet but I can imagine monster crits.
It's lv 14 so not lowbie per se.
I can't think of a slashing lowbie lowbie weapon that would out-perform the Tiefling Blade.
+2 keen khopesh of bleeding ml 4 same crit profile as carniflex but +1d8 bleed. For one hander's khopesh makes things different you don't need tweenk gear like you do with two hander's.
If you are going Random, you might be better with a Random Keen of <whatever> Icy bursted down 4 levels.
Or if you had/found something with a neat effect, like a +1 paralizer, lv 8, and Icy Bursted it to lv 4.
EllisDee37
02-08-2015, 05:30 PM
If you are swashbuckling, Axe of the Unseen Blow from Litany Cholthulzz or Mentau looks super nice.
With swashbuckling and IC:slash it becomes a 15-20 profile and x4 crit multiplier handaxe
I am searching for one for my next TR so I haven't tried it yet but I can imagine monster crits.
It's lv 14 so not lowbie per se.See the list of swashbuckling weapons with improved crit profile (http://ddowiki.com/page/List_of_Swashbuckler_weapons_with_improved_crit_pr ofile) for more info on good swashbuckling weapons. (My swashbuckler went with tiefling assassin from 4-11, then widowblight for 12+.)
If you are going Random, you might be better with a Random Keen of <whatever> Icy bursted down 4 levels.
Or if you had/found something with a neat effect, like a +1 paralizer, lv 8, and Icy Bursted it to lv 4.I think he was talking about crafted, not lootgen.
Holy Maul is 1h?!?!?!
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unbongwah
02-09-2015, 08:55 AM
Carniflex is NOT keen
Yes, it is.
http://ddowiki.com/images/Carnifex.png
Ausdoerrt
02-09-2015, 09:54 AM
Carnifex is the lowbie twink two-handed slashing weapon. Sword of the thirty and heroic sword of shadows are available a few levels higher. Above those is Whirlwind.
What are the the equivalent named one-handed twink lowbie slashing weapons? I'm hoping for something with an expanded critical range, a higher crit multiplier, or maybe a really awesome proc. Bonus points if it comes with a heroic augment slot.
I found Sirocco (a one-handed longsword with whirlwind's procs and a normal critical range), but it looks a little weak next to Whirlwind.
Any pointers would be appreciated.
There are too many types and styles of one-handed weapons to answer that. You'll need to specify before you get a useful answer. Light? Finessable? Damage type? Glancing blows? Swashbuckling? Etc etc.
Sehenry03
02-09-2015, 01:43 PM
Yes, it is.
http://ddowiki.com/images/Carnifex.png
Yes I know....that's why the next post is where I corrected myself when I realized I was thinking of my SoS not my carniflex...
eachna_gislin
02-12-2015, 03:18 AM
I know what your asking but how good something is...is objective. You say for example Whirlwind is better then SoS. I personally consider Whirlwind a junk sword once I get SoS and I know my DPS is WAY higher with SoS.
There are some good 1h weapons but I was thinking the same thing as you. Carniflex at lvl 4 is awesome and then SoS at 10 is the best tilo 20 when you get some epic stuff.
Tieflings Blade is only good lvl 4 weapon comparable to carniflex and when you hit 14 you can use Deathnip or Razorend which are both 1h. No really good 1h slashing though I can think of that compares to those.
I think you meant to say how good something is ... is subjective.
I didn't mean to suggest Whirlwind was "better" than the SoS. When I said it was "above" the SoS I meant it was a higher minimum level. I personaly consider the Whirlwind the "poor man's" SoS. That is, if a particular toon doesn't yet have a heroic SoS I will pull a fresh Whirlwind out of the bank for them.
The Nightforge longsword is a great suggestion. I can't believe I forgot to check the nightforge gear, I farm almost all the accesories for each character I play.
As for my purpose, my main paladin is getting ready for her third fighter life as EllisDee's Kensai Warpriest. She's done two lives using two-handed weapons, but when she returns to paladin she'll be TWF. I thought I might play this third fighter life as TWF as well. She has some nice khopeshes, but they're all higher level, so I was hoping for a good pair of twink blades with augments to see her through the lower-to-mid levels. A nightforge longsword and dagger set will let her slot Devotion and Radiance, and the sword will benefit from her improved critical.
I've already farmed up the pair. I'll keep an eye out for the tiefling blade, but I suspect that will be a longer term farming project. Thanks so much for all the suggestions.
Oxarhamar
02-12-2015, 12:01 PM
I'll try to post a screen shot tonight.
Just made myself a Rapier
ML2. +1 keen scimitar of heartseeking w/festival icy burst ( I'll like add a force recipe to it if I don't trade it)
I am alway on the lookout for handy twink items.
(My favorite)
ML2 +1 keen heavy repeating crossbow of heartseeking w/ festival icy burst & force ritual
phillymiket
02-12-2015, 12:08 PM
I'll try to post a screen shot tonight.
Just made myself a Rapier
ML2. +1 keen rapier of heartseeking w/festival icy burst ( I'll like add a force recipe to it if I don't trade it)
Nice :-)
I made something like that as well for a TR I am TRing.
The risia stuff is better than the guild slot/holy/bleed combo IMO.
Especially if it has a nice crit profile.
If OP found a scimitar like your rapier, it would serve him or her super well.
Oxarhamar
02-12-2015, 12:36 PM
Nice :-)
I made something like that as well for a TR I am TRing.
The risia stuff is better than the guild slot/holy/bleed combo IMO.
Especially if it has a nice crit profile.
If OP found a scimitar like your rapier, it would serve him or her super well.
Oh yes that's right it is a scimitar. Don't know why I typed rapier. (Corrected)
Connman
02-12-2015, 01:42 PM
Well I immediately think of these two, they can hold many different augments. Good for caster types and melee types as well.
http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Flametongue
http://ddowiki.com/images/Flametongue.png
Yeah you don't have to slot min level augments in this :)
http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Luck_Blade
http://ddowiki.com/images/Luck_Blade.png
EllisDee37
02-12-2015, 02:16 PM
Well I immediately think of these two, they can hold many different augments. Good for caster types and melee types as well.In terms of slotting spellpower, it's hard to beat the Threnalian War Blade (http://ddowiki.com/page/Threnalian_War_Blade): +15 implement bonus at level 8, woohoo!
http://ddowiki.com/images/Threnalian_War_Blade.png
Connman
02-12-2015, 02:35 PM
In terms of slotting spellpower, it's hard to beat the ...
It is the clearly a good choice, and fits the thread better, being slashing.
brian14
02-17-2015, 10:59 AM
If you can afford khopesh proficiency, Infectious Hooked Blade is great at levels 12-19. It is basically slashing version of WoP rapier.
eachna_gislin
03-17-2015, 03:13 PM
The forums ate my last two replies...lets hope this one goes through.
Thanks for the answers.
I ended up farming up a nightforge longsword and scrounged a Tiefling blade off a guildie. Since it's already keen it didn't matter that I didn't have improved critical for it.
I tr'd and used the set again on my most recent life. At 14 I took IC: piercing and went to town with a pair of Deathnips.
So, while she didn't spend as much time as I might have liked using slashing weapons, the forum discussion was very useful.
UurlockYgmeov
03-17-2015, 03:17 PM
Treason (http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Treason)
Short Sword (http://ddowiki.com/page/Short_Sword)
14
13-20x3
+5
[1d6]
Deception (http://ddowiki.com/page/Deception), Sneak Attack Bonus (http://ddowiki.com/page/Sneak_Attack_Bonus), Treason (http://ddowiki.com/page/Treason_(enchantment)), Armor-Piercing (http://ddowiki.com/page/Armor-Piercing)
Treason for lv14+. Trust me. It is Deceptively deadly! :P
Saekee
03-17-2015, 03:56 PM
just for posterity, the Sun blade is one-handed, min level 6, great base damage plus bonuses vs evil and undead and, though typed as a short sword does slashing damage. Like its epic sisters it behaves as a bastard sword.
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