Does anyone know why lag in Khyber is worse than other servers?

[mcalm3000]

It is clear Khyber lag is worse than other servers because I can just log in to the other servers and see a noticeable difference. The question is why?

[jayne1973]

read the thread. Voice no longer silent. Most would say this was true

[blerkington]

Hi,

Some might say it's because all the worst people are on Khyber, and they are being punished for their wicked ways.

Not me though.

Thanks.

[mcalm3000]

Guess no one is giving serious answers, I just thought there were a lot of programmers/ sys admin types that played the game. Its odd that one server is more affected than others. In the absence of a technical response, Khyber must have more internet gremlins.

[moomooprincess]

It could be many things. Hardware or player base. Doubt if it is software because then all servers would behave the same.

I do not now if Khyber shares a server with another world, but if it did, you would think the other world(s) would experience the same issues.

Maybe the Khyber Server has a bad Network Interface Card.

Maybe the cable going to the server went wonky.

Maybe Khyber's CPUs have gone bad.

Maybe more players on Khyber use a certain ISP that has a bad node in their network, a link to a server that hops from point to point is only as fast as its weakest hop.

Maybe Khyber does more raids.

Maybe more players on Khyber play on old machines that cause lag back to Turbine.

Maybe more players on Khyber play with satellite uplinks and cause lags back to Turbine.

Maybe more players are doing extra-curricular activities on Khyber that are causing the lag.

[JamnJD]

Guess no one is giving serious answers, I just thought there were a lot of programmers/ sys admin types that played the game. Its odd that one server is more affected than others. In the absence of a technical response, Khyber must have more internet gremlins.

There are many different causes for what most call lag in the game. Many of the causes are beyond our control as players. But there are some things that players can do to cause lag in the game, so it's very possible that Khyber just may have more of these players that are intentionally doing this (griefing) and/or more players that may be causing issues in ignorance.

Just throwing this out there as a possibility. And no, I will not post specifics.

...J

[Connman]

Hi,

Some might say it's because all the worst people are on Khyber, and they are being punished for their wicked ways.

Not me though.

Thanks.

+1

This is the best "tinfoil hat" theory out there!

[slarden]

What are you people doing on your guild ships on Khyber anyhow?

[caberonia]

There are many different causes for what most call lag in the game. Many of the causes are beyond our control as players. But there are some things that players can do to cause lag in the game, so it's very possible that Khyber just may have more of these players that are intentionally doing this (griefing) and/or more players that may be causing issues in ignorance.

Just throwing this out there as a possibility. And no, I will not post specifics.

...J
More Dupers. That's my theory.

[JamnJD]

More Dupers. That's my theory.

lol

No, I wasn't referring to that. I don't believe that was ever a "technical" problem (meaning causing lag), and now many of those holes have been plugged, and yet we still see performance issues from multiple sources.

...J

[Powskier]

More Dupers. That's my theory.

dupers are making circles through most servers, they hit and run for a week or two. I seen this in ASAH. Some weeks it is bidding war between 3-5 shard meteoric rubies , 5-6 shard golem hearts,or whatever sells easy. I started rotating 3 diff servers and the dupers definatly roam the servers to spread their thick limberger around.

[oldfatman]

I started rotating 3 diff servers

spreading the pain around huh?

[jalont]

The simplest answer is that it isn't worse.

[Powskier]

spreading the pain around huh?

I can join your group ,and throw out the voice and the ring, if you like

[jalont]

dupers are making circles through most servers, they hit and run for a week or two. I seen this in ASAH. Some weeks it is bidding war between 3-5 shard meteoric rubies , 5-6 shard golem hearts,or whatever sells easy. I started rotating 3 diff servers and the dupers definatly roam the servers to spread their thick limberger around.

no

[Powskier]

spreading the pain around huh?


no

...then why were there a full page of golem hearts, for 3-6 shards ,in Sarlona last month? and Ghallanda the month b4... Funky activity also adds lag..if your server is way laggy ,check for duper sales!

[oldfatman]

I can join your group ,and throw out the voice and the ring, if you like

Thanks for making my point

[Powskier]

Thanks for making my point

if your point is that you like to talk smak on the internet ,from your toilet chair?

[oldfatman]

dupers are making circles through most servers, they hit and run for a week or two. I seen this in ASAH. Some weeks it is bidding war between 3-5 shard meteoric rubies , 5-6 shard golem hearts,or whatever sells easy. I started rotating 3 diff servers and the dupers definatly roam the servers to spread their thick limberger around.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

[Powskier]

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

ah..i see you needed to make another account in forums ,by your # of posts..what was your name b 4 ?

[deuxanes]

My theory would be:

1) Analysing the cause of the lag isn't easy and requires manpower and detailed monitoring of the whole infrastructure
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2) Support for 3rd party hardware/software/services takes time and maybe money (provided the fault is on the side of the customer, e.g. wrong configuration)
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3) Turbine/Warner have their own schedule when and how to upgrade the infrastructure. To keep costs as low as possible (in order to increase profit) expenditures to the infrastructure are postponed
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4) Too few people pay for the service provided by Turbine/Warner

[Lonnbeimnech]

It could be many things. Hardware or player base. Doubt if it is software because then all servers would behave the same.

I do not now if Khyber shares a server with another world, but if it did, you would think the other world(s) would experience the same issues.

Maybe the Khyber Server has a bad Network Interface Card.

Maybe the cable going to the server went wonky.

Maybe Khyber's CPUs have gone bad.

Maybe more players on Khyber use a certain ISP that has a bad node in their network, a link to a server that hops from point to point is only as fast as its weakest hop.

Maybe Khyber does more raids.

Maybe more players on Khyber play on old machines that cause lag back to Turbine.

Maybe more players on Khyber play with satellite uplinks and cause lags back to Turbine.

Maybe more players are doing extra-curricular activities on Khyber that are causing the lag.


maybe more tree form monk builds on khyber?

[FrancisP.Fancypants]

Khyber? The server renown for drama? The one so vile it's managed to taint every other server with an outflux of fleeing carriers?

I'm guessing raccoons managed to climb inside and overheat the thing.



BUT WHATEVER, THE KARMA IS DELICIOUS.

[oldfatman]

if your point is that you like to talk smak on the internet ,from your toilet chair?

If I was sitting on the "throne" at least that "stool" could be flushed.

[SilkofDrasnia]

Khyber ~ the best of the best so ofc we need turbine induced lag to slow us down at least those of us still playing regularly.....

[Qhualor]

Khyber? The server renown for drama? The one so vile it's managed to taint every other server with an outflux of fleeing carriers?

I'm guessing raccoons managed to climb inside and overheat the thing.



BUT WHATEVER, THE KARMA IS DELICIOUS.

most of them don't play anymore or are soloing/static group.

[FrancisP.Fancypants]

most of them don't play anymore or are soloing/static group.

I only played there a week when I started, I guess you're talking about a specific bunch? I always thought it was a little embellished, like a dozen people causing each other trouble while everyone else rolls their eyes.

We have cookies on Argo, so whatever.

[FlaviusMaximus]

"Paladin Lists", Paladins, and the rest of the nonsense, drama, and immaturity on Khyber gave one of the hamsters a heart attack.

[jalont]

"Paladin Lists

What is this?

[Silverleafeon]

Just a wild guess (not from any NDA sources) and it might be very wrong.


Some of the current worlds were created from mergers with older worlds.

At one time a world was created that used much different rules than normal ~ aka something along the lines of permadeath or the like.

That world was merged into another world later on possibly more than once, purging its old rulesets.

However, those old rulesets cause problems to this day on occasion.

This is why cries for creating permadeath/special rule worlds ought to be ignored.
If someone want to play by different rules they ought to apply personally.

Is the slightly messed up world Khyber?
I have no idea.

What exactly was the special ruleset?
I have no idea either.

[relenttless]

At this precise moment, the lag on khyber is no worse than on any other world......

[jalont]

At this precise moment, the lag on khyber is no worse than on any other world......

And I think this is the truth. People that don't obsessively read the forums may not notice, but all servers have problems randomly. I remember like a year ago, Ghallanda crashed every Friday night like clockwork for like a month.

[Pehtis]

It is clear Khyber lag is worse than other servers because I can just log in to the other servers and see a noticeable difference. The question is why?

Maybe the player base should stop using dial up modems
Maybe the player base should upgrade their Pentium 5 computers
Maybe the player base should stop using Cannith crafting (also Stone of change) animations all at the same time.


Maybe ........................... I dunno :)

[Grimborn]

most of them don't play anymore or are soloing/static group.
Not all of them but, a fair assessment I would say.

[Faltout]

So noone has mentioned yet the:

Maybe players should stop going to their ship to get the cargo hold buffs all the time.
Maybe players should stop going to their ship from level 1 and start around level 6.

After all, lag is believed to be caused by ship instances, right? So one would believe that Khyber has more ships than the other servers ;)

[Uska]

It's seems that Khyber has always had more lag then the others servers for about 3 years I quit playing khyber because of the lag, I always checked back because I liked playing there with the guild I was in plus I enjoyed the pugs there more as well.

I moved and got much faster internet and a much better computer and for a while khyber was fine so much so I transfered a couple of characters and very soon after I started getting khyber lag agsin not as often but pretty crippling at times.


Please fix khyber

[Uska]

So noone has mentioned yet the:

Maybe players should stop going to their ship to get the cargo hold buffs all the time.
Maybe players should stop going to their ship from level 1 and start around level 6.

After all, lag is believed to be caused by ship instances, right? So one would believe that Khyber has more ships than the other servers ;)

I had more lag on khyber in the past before ships ever existed